Clean Eating DOES make a difference

CyberEd312

It seems many of you are getting hung up on her definition of 'clean' I am experiencing similar results to what the original post suggests. I operated in a fairly significant caloric deficit for a month with very little results. When i switched to a more 'clean' diet with the same caloric intake and same exercise i started losing. what works for some doesn't work for all. I understand that science teaches us that a lb = 3500 calories and I would not dispute that. 1000 net calories a day only counting calories produced very little change. 1000 net calories a day with either grilled chicken or white fish and some steamed green veggies with things like almonds as snacks produced noticeable results in 3 days. some may not like it, but its been the only thing that has worked so far so i'm gonna rock on with it.
btw, you look great.

why are you only netting 1000 calories a day???

Contrarian

Despite what my username implies, I generally avoid controversy, but I feel I have to intervene. The pretzel burger doesn't look good to me. I know that isn't a popular opinion, but that's how I feel, and my feelings are just as valid as anyone's.

OP, I'm glad you have found something that works for you.

Get out.

I'll get my coat. :sad:

stumblinthrulife

This topic needs to be in my news feed.

I also need to FR all the IIFYMers.

da_bears10089

just popped back in to take notes:

-pretzel burgers at TWO locations
-Capitalizations in Thread title may have caused the raucus
-hide crazy theories in success threads
-no sauce on pretzel burger
-no sharing pretzel burger
-no waiting for coupon for pretzel burger
-hide from people dressed as cows today, resume hiding from zombie apocalypse tomorrow
-always high five and back pat any success thread even if my back pat pushes the person over the cliff they are running towards

BeachIron

Despite what my username implies, I generally avoid controversy, but I feel I have to intervene. The pretzel burger doesn't look good to me. I know that isn't a popular opinion, but that's how I feel, and my feelings are just as valid as anyone's.

OP, I'm glad you have found something that works for you.

Get out.

I'll get my coat. :sad:

Wait, wait! What about Krispy Kreme burgers? Is that better? Throw me a bone here!

stephanj

I LOVE that willpower is one of your meals lol. And I sincerely hope that dinner finds its way into a blender?
You look great!

ETA: I posted this before I realized this had turned into one of "those" threads. Yeesh, just when I started to feel like venturing back onto the boards.....

alishacupcake

Wow this thread is a bummer.

I wonder if all the people that felt the NEED to detract from the OP success by inserting their own ideology also think it is appropriate and classy to use thir phones in public bathrooms.

It is great that other people want to dispel myths, and present more knowledge....but as someone else said...the blatant, in your face delivery is just RUDE.

Wait, are you saying its NOT okay to use my phone in the public bathroom? Oopps.. let me just put this away...

OP: great job but you ate too little for my comfort zone

ETA: Pretzel burgers, I wish I could quit you!! Well, not really. YUM!

mryak750

someone post great results in "success stories" and gets ridiculed for the term "clean eating'....this site can be trash...a bunch of followers...good job OP...

liftingheavy1

Wow this thread is a bummer.

I wonder if all the people that felt the NEED to detract from the OP success by inserting their own ideology also think it is appropriate and classy to use thir phones in public bathrooms.

It is great that other people want to dispel myths, and present more knowledge....but as someone else said...the blatant, in your face delivery is just RUDE.

Wait, are you saying its NOT okay to use my phone in the public bathroom? Oopps.. let me just put this away...

OP: great job but you ate too little for my comfort zone

go wash your hands dirty girl

alishacupcake

Wow this thread is a bummer.

I wonder if all the people that felt the NEED to detract from the OP success by inserting their own ideology also think it is appropriate and classy to use thir phones in public bathrooms.

It is great that other people want to dispel myths, and present more knowledge....but as someone else said...the blatant, in your face delivery is just RUDE.

Wait, are you saying its NOT okay to use my phone in the public bathroom? Oopps.. let me just put this away...

OP: great job but you ate too little for my comfort zone

go wash your hands dirty girl

Mmmmm I really really like when you call me that

stumblinthrulife

My perspective -

Eat clean, eat dirty, eat meat, eat veges, eat cooked, eat raw, eat whatever the heck you want to - just don't tell me that your food is inherently *better* than mine in some nebulous way, and we'll have no beef. That's why I like IIFYM. If you pay attention, you'll see that they don't jump on how anyone eats - until someone says that some food or other is inherently bad.

If you are eating perfectly clean and organic with 0 processed food, and you are enjoying it and succeeding, an IIFYM follower will cheer you on. If you then say that your success is purely down to the particular foods you eat, or worse - that no one can succeed unless they do the same thing, they will point out the error of your ways in no uncertain terms.

KellyMarie528

Again people, this isn't the place to go and nitpick her diary or how she lost her weight. She is trying to celebrate her success and it is very douchy to detract from that and try to call her out.

Truth. So what if OP believes it's her clean eating that made a difference? I highly doubt that her intent was to intentionally deceive others. Who cares how she worded the title? This isn't a shake o thread. It's not a "my way is the only way thread". It's not a HcG thread. Give the girl a break...sweet jeebus.

For REAL!

Calorie Deficits while eating whatever = weight loss (fat, muscle, water)

Calorie Deficits + Clean Eating (with sufficient protein) = fat/water loss and muscle gain (or maintenance)


Aaaaaand..... attack! ::hides behind shield of complex carbs and lean protein:::

...so just eating clean food and lots of Protein makes you gain/maintain muscle?

Well screw this lifting nonsense then.

LOL discussing nutrition!

AlongCame_Molly

First: I am referring to the burger at Wendy's. It's a burger patty on a pretzel roll bun with your typical veggies (if you're down with that) cheese, and a sweet mustard sauce. It was amazeballs. Some things look good and don't live up to the hype but this! I ate that sucker and then curled up around my pillow and slept the sleep of the truly content. The bread was so nice; a nice crisp outside and then a chewy fluffy inside. So good.

Dinner has been decided. *drooling*
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I know right!! I was leaning pizza for dinner but I have Pretzel burgers on the brain now....
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And only 680 calories! Not bad, not bad...

BeachIron

My perspective -

Eat clean, eat dirty, eat meat, eat veges, eat cooked, eat raw, eat whatever the heck you want to - just don't tell me that your food is inherently *better* than mine in some nebulous way, and we'll have no beef. That's why I like IIFYM. If you pay attention, you'll see that they don't jump on how anyone eats - until someone says that some food or other is inherently bad.

If you are eating perfectly clean and organic with 0 processed food, and you are enjoying it and succeeding, an IIFYM follower will cheer you on. If you then say that your success is purely down to the particular foods you eat, or worse - that no one can succeed unless they do the same thing, they will point out the error of your ways in no uncertain terms.

^ Very well said. I'd add that if you post a success thread and mention that you eat foods that are "unlcean" the clean eaters will tell you that such naughty behavior will eventually catch up to you and you will be diagnosed with cancer. And it happens with regularity here. This thread is mild.

LJSmith1989

But 2000 calories of lean meat and vegetables is treated differently by your body than 2000 calories of fried food & high sugared junk food like doughnuts etc.

I think that's what "clean eaters" are really getting at.. just not always correctly said.

alishacupcake

My perspective -

Eat clean, eat dirty, eat meat, eat veges, eat cooked, eat raw, eat whatever the heck you want to - just don't tell me that your food is inherently *better* than mine in some nebulous way, and we'll have no beef. That's why I like IIFYM. If you pay attention, you'll see that they don't jump on how anyone eats - until someone says that some food or other is inherently bad.

If you are eating perfectly clean and organic with 0 processed food, and you are enjoying it and succeeding, an IIFYM follower will cheer you on. If you then say that your success is purely down to the particular foods you eat, or worse - that no one can succeed unless they do the same thing, they will point out the error of your ways in no uncertain terms.

^ Very well said. On the other hand, if you post a success thread and mention that you eat foods that are "unlcean" the clean eaters will tell you that such naughty behavior will eventually catch up to you and you will be diagnosed with cancer. And it happens with regularity here.

I also really like being called "naughty." Dang, I'm a thread hijacker now. MFP watch out!

ETA: I still can't work quotes

CyberEd312

My perspective -

Eat clean, eat dirty, eat meat, eat veges, eat cooked, eat raw, eat whatever the heck you want to - just don't tell me that your food is inherently *better* than mine in some nebulous way, and we'll have no beef. That's why I like IIFYM. If you pay attention, you'll see that they don't jump on how anyone eats - until someone says that some food or other is inherently bad.

If you are eating perfectly clean and organic with 0 processed food, and you are enjoying it and succeeding, an IIFYM follower will cheer you on. If you then say that your success is purely down to the particular foods you eat, or worse - that no one can succeed unless they do the same thing, they will point out the error of your ways in no uncertain terms.

^ Very well said. On the other hand, if you post a success thread and mention that you eat foods that are "unlcean" the clean eaters will tell you that such naughty behavior will eventually catch up to you and you will be diagnosed with cancer. And it happens with regularity here.

QFT to both.......

mdearmond

had so many intentions of taking advantage of free chick fil a day....now all i want for the rest of my life is a pretzel burger.

free food or a pretzel burger...these are the serious life altering adult decisions I was warned about when I was younger.

Contrarian

Despite what my username implies, I generally avoid controversy, but I feel I have to intervene. The pretzel burger doesn't look good to me. I know that isn't a popular opinion, but that's how I feel, and my feelings are just as valid as anyone's.

OP, I'm glad you have found something that works for you.

Get out.

I'll get my coat. :sad:

Wait, wait! What about Krispy Kreme burgers? Is that better? Throw me a bone here!

I'm trying, but that doesn't sound good to me, either. As penance, I will repeatedly punch myself in the face until I am unconscious.

I like poutine, though.

Achrya

But 2000 calories of lean meat and vegetables is treated differently by your body than 2000 calories of fried food & high sugared junk food like doughnuts etc.

Because anyone said "Eat only fried foods and high sugared foods."

alishacupcake

But 2000 calories of lean meat and vegetables is treated differently by your body than 2000 calories of fried food & high sugared junk food like doughnuts etc.

Because anyone said "Eat only fried foods and high sugared foods."

But but but that DOES sound fun

rachseby

Despite what my username implies, I generally avoid controversy, but I feel I have to intervene. The pretzel burger doesn't look good to me. I know that isn't a popular opinion, but that's how I feel, and my feelings are just as valid as anyone's.

OP, I'm glad you have found something that works for you.

Get out.

I'll get my coat. :sad:

Wait, wait! What about Krispy Kreme burgers? Is that better? Throw me a bone here!

Krispy Kreme doughnuts are perfection as is...I would eat one sandwiched in between two others tho...

stumblinthrulife

But 2000 calories of lean meat and vegetables is treated differently by your body than 2000 calories of fried food & high sugared junk food like doughnuts etc.

I think that's what "clean eaters" are really getting at.. just not always correctly said.

Go to the local library. Find a book on biochemistry. Read it.

Also pay attention to the "If It Fits Your Macros" part of If It Fits Your Macros.

BeachIron

Despite what my username implies, I generally avoid controversy, but I feel I have to intervene. The pretzel burger doesn't look good to me. I know that isn't a popular opinion, but that's how I feel, and my feelings are just as valid as anyone's.

OP, I'm glad you have found something that works for you.

Get out.

I'll get my coat. :sad:

Wait, wait! What about Krispy Kreme burgers? Is that better? Throw me a bone here!

I'm trying, but that doesn't sound good to me, either. As penance, I will repeatedly punch myself in the face until I am unconscious.

I like poutine, though.

Hum. We will have to agree to disagree on this most controversial of topics. :flowerforyou:

LJSmith1989

But 2000 calories of lean meat and vegetables is treated differently by your body than 2000 calories of fried food & high sugared junk food like doughnuts etc.

Because anyone said "Eat only fried foods and high sugared foods."

Sarcasm. Wonderful tool.
But very true.

jonnythan

But 2000 calories of lean meat and vegetables is treated differently by your body than 2000 calories of fried food & high sugared junk food like doughnuts etc.

Because anyone said "Eat only fried foods and high sugared foods."

Sarcasm. Wonderful tool.
But very true.

Well the reality is that 2000 calories of grilled chicken and broccoli will have a vastly different macronutrient content than 2000 calories of donuts.

ashleyisgreat

But 2000 calories of lean meat and vegetables is treated differently by your body than 2000 calories of fried food & high sugared junk food like doughnuts etc.

Because anyone said "Eat only fried foods and high sugared foods."

For real.

stumblinthrulife

^ Very well said. I'd add that if you post a success thread and mention that you eat foods that are "unlcean" the clean eaters will tell you that such naughty behavior will eventually catch up to you and you will be diagnosed with cancer. And it happens with regularity here. This thread is mild.

Very true. I've never been criticized by an IIFYMer for eating veges and salad (of which I generally eat a lot). But I've been criticized by 'clean eaters' for burgers.

jonnythan

Despite what my username implies, I generally avoid controversy, but I feel I have to intervene. The pretzel burger doesn't look good to me. I know that isn't a popular opinion, but that's how I feel, and my feelings are just as valid as anyone's.

OP, I'm glad you have found something that works for you.

Get out.

I'll get my coat. :sad:

Wait, wait! What about Krispy Kreme burgers? Is that better? Throw me a bone here!

Krispy Kreme doughnuts are perfection as is...I would eat one sandwiched in between two others tho...

Dunkin Donuts has a donut sandwich now. It's no Krispy Kreme but it's rad.

breeshabebe

My perspective -

Eat clean, eat dirty, eat meat, eat veges, eat cooked, eat raw, eat whatever the heck you want to - just don't tell me that your food is inherently *better* than mine in some nebulous way, and we'll have no beef. That's why I like IIFYM. If you pay attention, you'll see that they don't jump on how anyone eats - until someone says that some food or other is inherently bad.

If you are eating perfectly clean and organic with 0 processed food, and you are enjoying it and succeeding, an IIFYM follower will cheer you on. If you then say that your success is purely down to the particular foods you eat, or worse - that no one can succeed unless they do the same thing, they will point out the error of your ways in no uncertain terms.

I like what you are saying here but I would say that's why I don't love IIFYM promoters. Not because of IIFYM, itself, but because any efforts made to eat "clean" is ridiculed by it's followers. For every post saying "hey.. I'm trying to eat less processed and more veggies" theres another 5 saying "Why eat that when you can eat pretzel burgers?" LOL. I know.. I know... "clean" eaters can be just as bad. But it goes both ways.