Eating Clean - No Such Thing
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All I know is, after reading these myriad threads on the clean-eating wars, that MFP is not a place where you will be supported in doing what works for you. If I am eating in a way that is different from you, I suppose I should keep that to myself before I am attacked for being ignorant and told that I should do it a different way. Better I close my diary before someone discovers that I lean towards clean eating or that I eat too dirty. Why is this a "debate"?
^^^ This.
(And as far as I can tell, it would be a mistake to call this a 'debate.' It seems like bunch of very, very determined people talking at or passed one another with the belief that if they repeat something just one more time they'll 'win.')
Thanks, buddy. I'm glad there is at least one of you out there!0 -
All I know is, after reading these myriad threads on the clean-eating wars, that MFP is not a place where you will be supported in doing what works for you. If I am eating in a way that is different from you, I suppose I should keep that to myself before I am attacked for being ignorant and told that I should do it a different way. Better I close my diary before someone discovers that I lean towards clean eating or that I eat too dirty. Why is this a "debate"?
^^^ This.
(And as far as I can tell, it would be a mistake to call this a 'debate.' It seems like bunch of very, very determined people talking at or passed one another with the belief that if they repeat something just one more time they'll 'win.')
What it's really about is helping people succeed. I see four things that disturb me:
1) People that are new and under the impression that they need to "eat clean" in order to achieve their goals. These people often decide to completely abstain from many of their favorite foods and therefore often become 2s.
2) People that have gained back weight that they have previously lost because they made unsustainable changes in their diet. They eventually gave in to their desires and indulged in a banned food, feel they have failed themselves, and rapidly fall back into their old eating patterns and put the weight right back on.
3) People who have had some success eating clean but still have a lot of weight to lose and are excited about their changes and progress. These people are often the most vocal about the benefits of clean eating and the quickest to deny the successes others have had without eating clean.
4) Relatively elite people who are often professionals of some kind in the industry who stand to make money by selling their methods and results. They often use fear tactics to scare people into "clean."0 -
QFTAll I know is, after reading these myriad threads on the clean-eating wars, that MFP is not a place where you will be supported in doing what works for you. If I am eating in a way that is different from you, I suppose I should keep that to myself before I am attacked for being ignorant and told that I should do it a different way. Better I close my diary before someone discovers that I lean towards clean eating or that I eat too dirty. Why is this a "debate"?
^^^ This.
(And as far as I can tell, it would be a mistake to call this a 'debate.' It seems like bunch of very, very determined people talking at or passed one another with the belief that if they repeat something just one more time they'll 'win.')
What it's really about is helping people succeed. I see four things that disturb me:
1) People that are new and under the impression that they need to "eat clean" in order to achieve their goals. These people often decide to completely abstain from many of their favorite foods and therefore often become 2s.
2) People that have gained back weight that they have previously lost because they made unsustainable changes in their diet. They eventually gave in to their desires and indulged in a banned food, feel they have failed themselves, and rapidly fall back into their old eating patterns and put the weight right back on.
3) People who have had some success eating clean but still have a lot of weight to lose and are excited about their changes and progress. These people are often the most vocal about the benefits of clean eating and the quickest to deny the successes others have had without eating clean.
4) Relatively elite people who are often professionals of some kind in the industry who stand to make money by selling their methods and results. They often use fear tactics to scare people into "clean."0 -
All I know is, after reading these myriad threads on the clean-eating wars, that MFP is not a place where you will be supported in doing what works for you. If I am eating in a way that is different from you, I suppose I should keep that to myself before I am attacked for being ignorant and told that I should do it a different way. Better I close my diary before someone discovers that I lean towards clean eating or that I eat too dirty. Why is this a "debate"?
^^^ This.
(And as far as I can tell, it would be a mistake to call this a 'debate.' It seems like bunch of very, very determined people talking at or passed one another with the belief that if they repeat something just one more time they'll 'win.')
What it's really about is helping people succeed. I see four things that disturb me:
1) People that are new and under the impression that they need to "eat clean" in order to achieve their goals. These people often decide to completely abstain from many of their favorite foods and therefore often become 2s.
2) People that have gained back weight that they have previously lost because they made unsustainable changes in their diet. They eventually gave in to their desires and indulged in a banned food, feel they have failed themselves, and rapidly fall back into their old eating patterns and put the weight right back on.
3) People who have had some success eating clean but still have a lot of weight to lose and are excited about their changes and progress. These people are often the most vocal about the benefits of clean eating and the quickest to deny the successes others have had without eating clean.
4) Relatively elite people who are often professionals of some kind in the industry who stand to make money by selling their methods and results. They often use fear tactics to scare people into "clean."
I know its a crazy concept, but sometimes people actually care about what they decide to put into their bodies. A lot of people don't want to survive on just protein bars and fast food everyday, or sustain themselves on a protein bar just so they have enough calories to eat some Wendy's. I'm sure I'll be attacked for this statement but weight loss in not always everyones only goal. You can be skinny and still be "unhealthy".
I realize you can meet your macros on fast food, but is there any emphasis at all on getting a proper amount of nutrients and vitamins, besides the ones you get from your multi vitamin in the morning or protein shake?
Please read:This is more directed to the poster above after reading his food dairy.0 -
All I know is, after reading these myriad threads on the clean-eating wars, that MFP is not a place where you will be supported in doing what works for you. If I am eating in a way that is different from you, I suppose I should keep that to myself before I am attacked for being ignorant and told that I should do it a different way. Better I close my diary before someone discovers that I lean towards clean eating or that I eat too dirty. Why is this a "debate"?
^^^ This.
(And as far as I can tell, it would be a mistake to call this a 'debate.' It seems like bunch of very, very determined people talking at or passed one another with the belief that if they repeat something just one more time they'll 'win.')
What it's really about is helping people succeed. I see four things that disturb me:
1) People that are new and under the impression that they need to "eat clean" in order to achieve their goals. These people often decide to completely abstain from many of their favorite foods and therefore often become 2s.
2) People that have gained back weight that they have previously lost because they made unsustainable changes in their diet. They eventually gave in to their desires and indulged in a banned food, feel they have failed themselves, and rapidly fall back into their old eating patterns and put the weight right back on.
3) People who have had some success eating clean but still have a lot of weight to lose and are excited about their changes and progress. These people are often the most vocal about the benefits of clean eating and the quickest to deny the successes others have had without eating clean.
4) Relatively elite people who are often professionals of some kind in the industry who stand to make money by selling their methods and results. They often use fear tactics to scare people into "clean."
I know its a crazy concept, but sometimes people actually care about what they decide to put into their bodies. A lot of people don't want to survive on just protein bars and fast food everyday, or sustain themselves on a protein bar just so they have enough calories to eat some Wendy's. I'm sure I'll be attacked for this statement but weight loss in not always everyones only goal. You can be skinny and still be "unhealthy".
I realize you can meet your macros on fast food, but is there any emphasis at all on getting a proper amount of nutrients and vitamins, besides the ones you get from your multi vitamin in the morning or protein shake?
Please read:This is more directed to the poster above after reading his food dairy.
This is about giving people the freedom to eat the foods they love and feel good about it.
As opposed to your approach which is to make them so scared of this toxic food that they feel like failures for eating something not "clean."0 -
when was the last anyone saw an obese person who eats clean?
Obese people are obese because they are eating above their daily calorie intake. Not because of what they eat. Seriously..... I give up.
I have lost track at how many of these threads that are created on clean eating vs processed foods or whole foods, whatever each one carries their own beliefs. Just stay true to what you know and what works for you.0 -
All I know is, after reading these myriad threads on the clean-eating wars, that MFP is not a place where you will be supported in doing what works for you. If I am eating in a way that is different from you, I suppose I should keep that to myself before I am attacked for being ignorant and told that I should do it a different way. Better I close my diary before someone discovers that I lean towards clean eating or that I eat too dirty. Why is this a "debate"?
^^^ This.
(And as far as I can tell, it would be a mistake to call this a 'debate.' It seems like bunch of very, very determined people talking at or passed one another with the belief that if they repeat something just one more time they'll 'win.')
What it's really about is helping people succeed. I see four things that disturb me:
1) People that are new and under the impression that they need to "eat clean" in order to achieve their goals. These people often decide to completely abstain from many of their favorite foods and therefore often become 2s.
2) People that have gained back weight that they have previously lost because they made unsustainable changes in their diet. They eventually gave in to their desires and indulged in a banned food, feel they have failed themselves, and rapidly fall back into their old eating patterns and put the weight right back on.
3) People who have had some success eating clean but still have a lot of weight to lose and are excited about their changes and progress. These people are often the most vocal about the benefits of clean eating and the quickest to deny the successes others have had without eating clean.
4) Relatively elite people who are often professionals of some kind in the industry who stand to make money by selling their methods and results. They often use fear tactics to scare people into "clean."
I know its a crazy concept, but sometimes people actually care about what they decide to put into their bodies. A lot of people don't want to survive on just protein bars and fast food everyday, or sustain themselves on a protein bar just so they have enough calories to eat some Wendy's. I'm sure I'll be attacked for this statement but weight loss in not always everyones only goal. You can be skinny and still be "unhealthy".
I realize you can meet your macros on fast food, but is there any emphasis at all on getting a proper amount of nutrients and vitamins, besides the ones you get from your multi vitamin in the morning or protein shake?
Please read:This is more directed to the poster above after reading his food dairy.
This is about giving people the freedom to eat the foods they love and feel good about it.
As opposed to your approach which is to make them so scared of this toxic food that they feel like failures for eating something not "clean."
Thats not really "My Approach" at all. I don't tell anyone to NEVER eat fast food, but I would advice against not eating it everyday because its not the most nutrients dense food and I think aside from obtaining your macro's, its also important to get nutrients and vitamins through your food. I personally think there is a lot to be said for getting nutrients and vitamins from actual food sources than just taking a multi vitamin as an excuse to not put any fruits and vegetables in your diet. If anything my approach is a well balanced diet. I consume food that is not so nutrients dense probably 90% of the time, but I also make sure I eat enough fruits, vegetables, fish, meats, legumes, nuts ect.. to get my vitamins and nutrients. Not to mention if I ate that much fast food I would be sick to my stomach and be sluggish all day.
Now the entire Mcdonalds thing is just its own issue. This is why I refer to Mcdonalds burgers as not real food, I'll stick to some In and Out burger
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/01/31/10282876-mcdonalds-drops-use-of-gooey-ammonia-based-pink-slime-in-hamburger-meat?lite0 -
There is no such thing as "clean" food? Eating clean just means eating foods that are as close to their natural state as possible. It excludes fast foods, processed foods, etc. That's all. It really is a term.
This. I don't eat clean for weight loss, I eat clean for the long-term health benefits.0 -
In my experience:
Eating lots of foods high in micro nutrients/high gi (or is low, the 'good' one
) helps you to be healthy.
Exercising lots helps you to be healthy.
Eating purely these foods and exercising lots doesn't make you noticeably healthier than just exercising, unless you're particularly low in micro-nutrients anyway.
Exercising lots has other benefits not obtainable through eating.
Proponents of 'clean eating' - understand that it's considered acceptable to criticise 'fad diets' on here generally.
Often the criticism is that there's no scientific basis for it to work above basic calorie in vs calorie out.
So perhaps it's worth 'defending' your position with some scientific evidence. 0 -
What it's really about is helping people succeed. I see four things that disturb me:
1) People that are new and under the impression that they need to "eat clean" in order to achieve their goals. These people often decide to completely abstain from many of their favorite foods and therefore often become 2s.
2) People that have gained back weight that they have previously lost because they made unsustainable changes in their diet. They eventually gave in to their desires and indulged in a banned food, feel they have failed themselves, and rapidly fall back into their old eating patterns and put the weight right back on...
The earth thanks you for your efforts to save it.
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Oops. Somehow this doubleposted.0
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http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1048284-no-such-thing-as-fattening-food-or-inherently-bad-foodNo Foods are Inherently Fattening!
Don’t believe me? Consider this study showing that “reduced-calorie diets result in clinically meaningful weight loss regardless of which macronutrients they emphasize.” -
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19246357
Or perhaps this study which found “diets differing substantially in glycemic load induce comparable long-term weight loss.”-
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17413101
Still skeptical? Mull over the astounding results of Professor Mark Haub who lost 27lbs and improved markers of health while eating a diet solely consisting of Twinkies.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
The evidence is clear: No foods are inherently fattening!
Flexible dieting
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/117075500 -
Proponents of 'clean eating' - understand that it's considered acceptable to criticise 'fad diets' on here generally.
Often the criticism is that there's no scientific basis for it to work above basic calorie in vs calorie out.
So perhaps it's worth 'defending' your position with some scientific evidence.
What exactly is it you want clean eaters to defend?0 -
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1048284-no-such-thing-as-fattening-food-or-inherently-bad-foodNo Foods are Inherently Fattening!
Don’t believe me? Consider this study showing that “reduced-calorie diets result in clinically meaningful weight loss regardless of which macronutrients they emphasize.” -
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19246357
Or perhaps this study which found “diets differing substantially in glycemic load induce comparable long-term weight loss.”-
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17413101
Still skeptical? Mull over the astounding results of Professor Mark Haub who lost 27lbs and improved markers of health while eating a diet solely consisting of Twinkies.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
The evidence is clear: No foods are inherently fattening!
Flexible dieting
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11707550
What does any of that have to do with clean eating?0 -
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1048284-no-such-thing-as-fattening-food-or-inherently-bad-foodNo Foods are Inherently Fattening!
Don’t believe me? Consider this study showing that “reduced-calorie diets result in clinically meaningful weight loss regardless of which macronutrients they emphasize.” -
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19246357
Or perhaps this study which found “diets differing substantially in glycemic load induce comparable long-term weight loss.”-
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17413101
Still skeptical? Mull over the astounding results of Professor Mark Haub who lost 27lbs and improved markers of health while eating a diet solely consisting of Twinkies.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
The evidence is clear: No foods are inherently fattening!
Flexible dieting
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11707550
What does any of that have to do with clean eating?
A common refrain from clean eaters is that foods they disapprove of as not being "clean" are inherently bad or fattening.0 -
posted by Seefylol:
Obese people are obese because they are eating above their daily calorie intake. Not because of what they eat. Seriously..... I give up.
I disagree with both your original post and this comment.
I am obese. I do not eat over my daily calorie. In fact, it's extremely hard for me to meet my daily recommended calories because I dislike eating so very very much. It's a PITA, in my opinion. I have other things I'd rather be doing than grocery shopping, planning meals, balancing the food budget, cooking over a hot stove, sitting and chewing foods, etc...
I'd rather be outside, walking or even running or riding my bike with my family. I'd rather be hiking up the side of a mountain. I'd rather be reading a book with one of my kids. I'd rather be working on a science experiment with my kids (as I homeschool them and as greatly enjoy learning) and watching their reactions as they just learned something new! I'd rather be playing a WiiFit game and challenging myself to see if I can break my last record while blasting away calories. I'd rather be watching a comedy movie with my husband, and watching him crack up so hard that he has tears in his eyes. I'd rather be telling a good friend a funny story. I'd rather be doing anything at all... anything... than sitting and stuffing my face with ANY kind of food.
Why? Is it because I hate food? Nope. Not at all. Is it because I fear it's the reason I am fat? Nope. Because it's not the reason, as some ignorant people like yourself would assume. Is it because I am lazy? Well, considering all the things I prefer to do... I think it's safe to say I'm pretty well motivated.
So why am I obese? It's because of three things - 1) Because I often struggle to meet my daily calorie limit at all.... and my body keeps thinking I'm starving. I literally have to force myself to near constantly think about food, which is highly annoying to me. 2) Because I have RA, and I move much slower than I did when I was younger, so burning those annoying calories I managed to eat at all is a serious challenge. Imagine your knees, hips, ankles, shoulders, spin, wrists, elbows, and neck - all being so stiff that moving them feels like you might shatter into a million little pieces. Sure, I could choke down some pills to mask the symptoms that are devouring my body slowly... but I chose not to. I choose to fight and keep moving, even if it is slower than all the people around me. At least I'm not giving up and accepting a wheelchair as my only mode of transportation. But hey... I must be obese because I just stuff my face with high fat/high calorie foods all day and every day. Right? 3) Because I am built differently than you, and genetically, it runs in my family (especially the women) to store fat exceptionally easily. Yep.... I figure I am a misplaced Inuit that should have been born and raised in Alaska, rather than Texas, because I'm sure built for the cold weather! But genes have nothing to do with weight either... right?
And concerning dirty foods not existing? Tell that to my RA and my intestines. I bet you can eat sausage or even drink a cup of coffee without feeling like you've just been placed in some medieval torture wheel with your intestines slowly being pulled out through your belly button. You probably don't break out into hives and become uber aggressive when you come into contact with shellfish either, huh? I bet you are the lucky one who has never gotten a hold of a bad jar of peanut butter laced with salmonella and spent four days vomiting your toes up. You've probably never had a bologna and cheese sandwich which resulted in your skin turning so oily that you had breakouts for two days that scarred your face - just from the oil in that one sandwich with processed meat on it, and you ate for the first time in a year after deciding that since you've had clear skin for all this time, eating fruits and veggies and lean meats, one bologna sandwich isn't going to hurt.
You see.... while it's not dirty for you to eat - it could be dirty for someone else to eat. What you proclaim as not dirty, may in fact shut my body down because it can't handle it. And what I proclaim to be clean, may in fact be something your body can't deal with at all.
Know what I get tired of? People trying to cram the world into a one size fits all image of what to do and how we all work.
The only good thing I can say is that it's good you are giving up and allowing people to do/think for themselves without correcting them for having an opinion based on their own experiences. Oh, and try widening the narrow point of your thinking. You might find that obesity has many causes - not just one, and not necessarily even involving the one you believe is the sole cause.0 -
A common refrain from clean eaters is that foods they disapprove of as not being "clean" are inherently bad or fattening.
That would be from those that don't really understand what clean eating is. Which seems to be most MFP members. Or maybe like other ideas it has become so used and misused and bastardized over the years that it no longer has meaning.
While the clean eating philosophy does see overly processed or unnatural foods as bad (or unclean), it is not about fattening or unfattening.0 -
A common refrain from clean eaters is that foods they disapprove of as not being "clean" are inherently bad or fattening.
That would be from those that don't really understand what clean eating is. Which seems to be most MFP members.
Perhaps you can convince them they don't understand clean eating.0 -
You need to do some homework before you spout nonsense not everyone wants chemicals dont gripe at others for eating how they want and do your own thing get off your high horse.
Spouting nonsense? Pot meet kettle, unless you can provide a list of all these chemical free foods people are eating
flip over the package and read. Any of that sound like food?0 -
Endor?What exactly is it you want clean eaters to defend?
Everyone loves an ewok.
Otherwise - nothing, it's a question of what they ARE defending.
StaticNomad:
On one side you say you struggle to eat enough calories.
On the other you say you struggle to burn enough calories.
Every study I've seen in to the area has shown that the less you eat, the more weight you lose.
Your weight loss may slow down, but despite all the 'starvation mode' claims, every time it's tested, eating under the calories you burn (even if that's a bit reduced) leads to weight loss.
I do certainly agree that some people have specific allergies and requirements and should thus avoid things that cause trouble.0 -
You need to do some homework before you spout nonsense not everyone wants chemicals dont gripe at others for eating how they want and do your own thing get off your high horse.
Spouting nonsense? Pot meet kettle, unless you can provide a list of all these chemical free foods people are eating
flip over the package and read. Any of that sound like food?
Way to avoid the question, would you eat something with these ingredients?
"Alpha-Linolenic-Acid, Asparagine, D-Categin, Isoqurctrin, Hyperoside, Ferulic-Acid, Farnesene, Neoxathin, Phosphatidyl-Choline, Reynoutrin, Sinapic-Acid, Caffeic-Acid, Chlorogenic-Acid, P-Hydroxy-Benzoic-Acid, P-Coumaric-Acid, Avicularin, Lutein, Quercitin, Rutin, Ursolic-Acid, Protocatechuic-Acid, Silver, Tryptophan, Threonine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Lycine, Methionine, Cystine, Phenylalanine, Tyrosine, Valine, Argenine, Histidine, Alanine, Aspartic Acid, Glutamic Acid, Glycine, Proline, and Serine. "0 -
You need to do some homework before you spout nonsense not everyone wants chemicals dont gripe at others for eating how they want and do your own thing get off your high horse.
Spouting nonsense? Pot meet kettle, unless you can provide a list of all these chemical free foods people are eating
flip over the package and read. Any of that sound like food?
The package of what, exactly?0 -
Endor?What exactly is it you want clean eaters to defend?
Everyone loves an ewok.
Otherwise - nothing, it's a question of what they ARE defending.
StaticNomad:
On one side you say you struggle to eat enough calories.
On the other you say you struggle to burn enough calories.
Every study I've seen in to the area has shown that the less you eat, the more weight you lose.
Your weight loss may slow down, but despite all the 'starvation mode' claims, every time it's tested, eating under the calories you burn (even if that's a bit reduced) leads to weight loss.
I do certainly agree that some people have specific allergies and requirements and should thus avoid things that cause trouble.
Its my firm believe that being healthy is way more important than a scale. I also eat the way I do for ethical reasons but I am not going there because I also don't believe and pushing my spiritual believes on people. But health needs to drive you more than vanity
am I saying eat like an angel all the time uh no but try to be at least a little better0 -
You need to do some homework before you spout nonsense not everyone wants chemicals dont gripe at others for eating how they want and do your own thing get off your high horse.
Spouting nonsense? Pot meet kettle, unless you can provide a list of all these chemical free foods people are eating
flip over the package and read. Any of that sound like food?
The package of what, exactly?
anything you want to put into your body its at least good to know whats going in0 -
Gold jacket, green jacket, who gives a *kitten*?0
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You need to do some homework before you spout nonsense not everyone wants chemicals dont gripe at others for eating how they want and do your own thing get off your high horse.
Spouting nonsense? Pot meet kettle, unless you can provide a list of all these chemical free foods people are eating
flip over the package and read. Any of that sound like food?
Way to avoid the question, would you eat something with these ingredients?
"Alpha-Linolenic-Acid, Asparagine, D-Categin, Isoqurctrin, Hyperoside, Ferulic-Acid, Farnesene, Neoxathin, Phosphatidyl-Choline, Reynoutrin, Sinapic-Acid, Caffeic-Acid, Chlorogenic-Acid, P-Hydroxy-Benzoic-Acid, P-Coumaric-Acid, Avicularin, Lutein, Quercitin, Rutin, Ursolic-Acid, Protocatechuic-Acid, Silver, Tryptophan, Threonine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Lycine, Methionine, Cystine, Phenylalanine, Tyrosine, Valine, Argenine, Histidine, Alanine, Aspartic Acid, Glutamic Acid, Glycine, Proline, and Serine. "
lol you mean an apple last I checked they don't screw with those too often also that's not on the back of an apple now is it
**I buy non gmo and organic apples0 -
I'm eating clean today, you can check.0
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A common refrain from clean eaters is that foods they disapprove of as not being "clean" are inherently bad or fattening.
That would be from those that don't really understand what clean eating is. Which seems to be most MFP members.
Perhaps you can convince them they don't understand clean eating.
That is likely beyond my powers of persuasion.
But at it's core is a pretty simple philosopy. Eat food in it's natural form. It doesn't matter if it is labeled natural, or labeled at all, or if it comes in a package. It doesn't matter how much fat or sugar or how many calories it contains. It matters how close it is to it's natural form.
Pop-Tarts, for example, are not clean. It doesn't matter if you can lose weight easier when you eat them. It doesn't matter if they are fattening. It matters that they are not food in it's natural form. Natural = clean. The further a food deviates from natural, the less clean it is.0 -
You need to do some homework before you spout nonsense not everyone wants chemicals dont gripe at others for eating how they want and do your own thing get off your high horse.
Spouting nonsense? Pot meet kettle, unless you can provide a list of all these chemical free foods people are eating
flip over the package and read. Any of that sound like food?
The package of what, exactly?
anything you want to put into your body its at least good to know whats going in
Well you asked if anything on it sounds like food, so it would be helpful if you had a particular item in mind.
However, you don't, so let's take a Pop-Tart:
ENRICHED FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMIN MONONITRATE [VITAMIN B1], RIBOFLAVIN [VITAMIN B2], FOLIC ACID), CORN SYRUP, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, DEXTROSE, SOYBEAN AND PALM OIL (WITH TBHQ FOR FRESHNESS), SUGAR, CONTAINS TWO PERCENT OR LESS OF CRACKER MEAL, WHEAT STARCH, SALT, DRIED STRAWBERRIES, DRIED PEARS, DRIED APPLES, CORNSTARCH, LEAVENING (BAKING SODA, SODIUM ACID PYROPHOSPHATE, MONOCALCIUM PHOSPHATE), CITRIC ACID, CORN CEREAL, GELATIN, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN OIL†, CARAMEL COLOR, MODIFIED CORN STARCH, SOY LECITHIN, XANTHAN GUM, MODIFIED WHEAT STARCH, TRICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, COLOR ADDED, TURMERIC COLOR, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, RED #40, NIACINAMIDE, REDUCED IRON, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE (VITAMIN B6), YELLOW #6, RIBOFLAVIN (VITAMIN B2), THIAMIN HYDROCHLORIDE (VITAMIN B1), FOLIC ACID, BLUE #1.
Flour sounds like a food. The other stuff in the flour, like niacin and riboflavin, are all vitamins and minerals. Corn syrup, dextrose, sugar, and HFCS are carbohydrates, and therefore foods. Soybean and palm oil are oil made of fatty acids and therefore also food.
Those ingredients - flour, sugars, and oils - make up the vast majority of the Pop-tart.
The other stuff are mostly things to make those ingredients taste and look better as well as be consistent and not spoil quickly. Cracker meal, starch, salt, dried fruit concentrates, baking soda, citric acid, corn cereal, gelatin, caramel color, etc. A few colors and preservatives, along with some more vitamins and minerals, and you have a Pop-tart.0 -
YES! This for the win. (oops, it didn't quote - in response to "LOUD NOISES")0
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