Drink More Water, Lose More Weight? YES!

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  • Oh, and to actually contribute to the threat, drinking too much water is pretty bad for you.
    Although, the amount equaling "too much" can vary from person to person...
    I was about 7 years old and it didn't take much, but I ended up in the hospital from overhydration.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    If you drink more water than your body can handle then you can actually drown. Did you know that before you started telling people to drink a gallon of water?

    Before starting 5:2 I hardly drank any water, I'd drink coffee mainly. I lost a huge amount of weight. There goes that theory.

    Yes, coffee is a diuretic. I guess everyone should just load up on caffeine now.... :huh: :laugh:

    Not really - not much more than water.

    Whatever you say m'lady.

    Nah, not me...science.

    That's nice. Later :drinker:

    Yep...science can be. :drinker:

    Links? Please. I'd love to hear how caffeine is "not really" a diuretic compared to water. We should just be friends already since you seem to like to comment in disagreement or sarcasm on anything I post in this section.

    I have no idea what you are talking about - I can only recall interacting with you once, where you were snarky there also. I just corrected your incorrect statement, that is all.

    Anyway...here you go...

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283 - any beverage counts

    "beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute"


    http://www.jacn.org/content/19/5/591.short - any beverage counts

    "This preliminary study found no significant differences in the effect of various combinations of beverages on hydration status of healthy adult males. Advising people to disregard caffeinated beverages as part of the daily fluid intake is not substantiated by the results of this study."


    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12834577 - the diuretic effect of caffeine is minimal

    "...nor does it cause significant dehydration or electrolyte imbalance during exercise."


    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12187618 - the diuretic effect of caffeine is minimal

    "The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health"

    "Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume."
  • Nicolee_2014
    Nicolee_2014 Posts: 1,572 Member
    A gallon of water sounds like a lot !
    I do litres - I love my water.
  • Otterluv
    Otterluv Posts: 9,083 Member
    Links? Please. I'd love to hear how caffeine is "not really" a diuretic compared to water. We should just be friends already since you seem to like to comment in disagreement or sarcasm on anything I post in this section.

    I can help here. I'm sure there are more, but just a quick search came up with:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html

    http://www.jacn.org/content/19/5/591.long

    http://www.ncceh.ca/en/major_projects/heat_advice/alcohol_caffeine

    *** woops, I see Sara was already on it!
  • dixiewhiskey
    dixiewhiskey Posts: 3,333 Member
    If you drink more water than your body can handle then you can actually drown. Did you know that before you started telling people to drink a gallon of water?

    Before starting 5:2 I hardly drank any water, I'd drink coffee mainly. I lost a huge amount of weight. There goes that theory.

    Yes, coffee is a diuretic. I guess everyone should just load up on caffeine now.... :huh: :laugh:

    Not really - not much more than water.

    Whatever you say m'lady.

    Nah, not me...science.

    That's nice. Later :drinker:

    Yep...science can be. :drinker:

    Links? Please. I'd love to hear how caffeine is "not really" a diuretic compared to water. We should just be friends already since you seem to like to comment in disagreement or sarcasm on anything I post in this section.

    I have no idea what you are talking about - I can only recall interacting with you once, where you were snarky there also. I just corrected your incorrect statement, that is all.

    Anyway...here you go...

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283 - any beverage counts

    "beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute"


    http://www.jacn.org/content/19/5/591.short - any beverage counts

    "This preliminary study found no significant differences in the effect of various combinations of beverages on hydration status of healthy adult males. Advising people to disregard caffeinated beverages as part of the daily fluid intake is not substantiated by the results of this study."


    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12834577 - the diuretic effect of caffeine is minimal

    "...nor does it cause significant dehydration or electrolyte imbalance during exercise."


    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12187618 - the diuretic effect of caffeine is minimal

    "The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health"

    "Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume."

    Incredibly mature. You claim not to recall anything but remember that I was "snarky". I'm far from that and don't appreciate the name calling - I just want to know why out of all the posts here, you consistently decide to nitpick mine when the disagreement is so bloody minor. Is your life that boring? I didn't make my original statement as advice to anyone here that drinking coffee will make you lose weight but as a general statement - many individuals in the medical and scientific field have labelled caffeine as a diuretic, whether they consider it huge or very little is not really what the first post was about.

    Caffeine is considered a diuretic and that's really the point I'm making here.. the only person commenting on its effectiveness is you - I'm not saying it is going to make anyone lose weight but it certainly makes you piss like a racehorse and dehydrates you.. water makes you go too but water hydrates the body.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    If you drink more water than your body can handle then you can actually drown. Did you know that before you started telling people to drink a gallon of water?

    Before starting 5:2 I hardly drank any water, I'd drink coffee mainly. I lost a huge amount of weight. There goes that theory.

    Yes, coffee is a diuretic. I guess everyone should just load up on caffeine now.... :huh: :laugh:

    Not really - not much more than water.

    Whatever you say m'lady.

    Nah, not me...science.

    That's nice. Later :drinker:

    Yep...science can be. :drinker:

    Links? Please. I'd love to hear how caffeine is "not really" a diuretic compared to water. We should just be friends already since you seem to like to comment in disagreement or sarcasm on anything I post in this section.

    I have no idea what you are talking about - I can only recall interacting with you once, where you were snarky there also. I just corrected your incorrect statement, that is all.

    Anyway...here you go...

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283 - any beverage counts

    "beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute"


    http://www.jacn.org/content/19/5/591.short - any beverage counts

    "This preliminary study found no significant differences in the effect of various combinations of beverages on hydration status of healthy adult males. Advising people to disregard caffeinated beverages as part of the daily fluid intake is not substantiated by the results of this study."


    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12834577 - the diuretic effect of caffeine is minimal

    "...nor does it cause significant dehydration or electrolyte imbalance during exercise."


    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12187618 - the diuretic effect of caffeine is minimal

    "The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health"

    "Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume."

    Incredibly mature. You claim not to recall anything but remember that I was "snarky". I'm far from that and don't appreciate the name calling - I just want to know why out of all the posts here, you consistently decide to nitpick mine when the disagreement is so bloody minor. Is your life that boring? I didn't make my original statement as advice to anyone here that drinking coffee will make you lose weight but as a general statement - many individuals in the medical and scientific field have labelled caffeine as a diuretic, whether they consider it huge or very little is not really what the first post was about.

    Caffeine is considered a diuretic and that's really the point I'm making here.. the only person commenting on its effectiveness is you - I'm not saying it is going to make anyone lose weight but it certainly makes you piss like a racehorse and dehydrates you.. water makes you go too but water hydrates the body.

    lol - I was talking about this thread....

    Also, you seem to forget that you were commenting on someone else's post in a less than pleasant and very sarcastic manner but decide to get very very irritated when I correct you. You asked for sources, I gave them to you.
  • Otterluv
    Otterluv Posts: 9,083 Member
    If you drink more water than your body can handle then you can actually drown. Did you know that before you started telling people to drink a gallon of water?

    Before starting 5:2 I hardly drank any water, I'd drink coffee mainly. I lost a huge amount of weight. There goes that theory.

    Yes, coffee is a diuretic. I guess everyone should just load up on caffeine now.... :huh: :laugh:

    Not really - not much more than water.

    Whatever you say m'lady.

    Nah, not me...science.

    That's nice. Later :drinker:

    Yep...science can be. :drinker:

    Links? Please. I'd love to hear how caffeine is "not really" a diuretic compared to water. We should just be friends already since you seem to like to comment in disagreement or sarcasm on anything I post in this section.

    I have no idea what you are talking about - I can only recall interacting with you once, where you were snarky there also. I just corrected your incorrect statement, that is all.

    Anyway...here you go...

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/water/NU00283 - any beverage counts

    "beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute"


    http://www.jacn.org/content/19/5/591.short - any beverage counts

    "This preliminary study found no significant differences in the effect of various combinations of beverages on hydration status of healthy adult males. Advising people to disregard caffeinated beverages as part of the daily fluid intake is not substantiated by the results of this study."


    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12834577 - the diuretic effect of caffeine is minimal

    "...nor does it cause significant dehydration or electrolyte imbalance during exercise."


    http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/12187618 - the diuretic effect of caffeine is minimal

    "The literature indicates that caffeine consumption stimulates a mild diuresis similar to water, but there is no evidence of a fluid-electrolyte imbalance that is detrimental to exercise performance or health"

    "Investigations comparing caffeine (100-680 mg) to water or placebo seldom found a statistical difference in urine volume."

    Incredibly mature. You claim not to recall anything but remember that I was "snarky". I'm far from that and don't appreciate the name calling - I just want to know why out of all the posts here, you consistently decide to nitpick mine when the disagreement is so bloody minor. Is your life that boring? I didn't make my original statement as advice to anyone here that drinking coffee will make you lose weight but as a general statement - many individuals in the medical and scientific field have labelled caffeine as a diuretic, whether they consider it huge or very little is not really what the first post was about.

    Caffeine is considered a diuretic and that's really the point I'm making here.. the only person commenting on its effectiveness is you - I'm not saying it is going to make anyone lose weight but it certainly makes you piss like a racehorse and dehydrates you.. water makes you go too but water hydrates the body.

    Actually, if you read through the studies you'll see that it has been found that it does not, in fact, dehydrate you when drunk in moderation. It's one of those myths that just won't die. I've been hearing it since I was a child, but it's just not been found to be true.
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
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  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Incredibly mature. You claim not to recall anything but remember that I was "snarky". I'm far from that and don't appreciate the name calling - I just want to know why out of all the posts here, you consistently decide to nitpick mine when the disagreement is so bloody minor. Is your life that boring? I didn't make my original statement as advice to anyone here that drinking coffee will make you lose weight but as a general statement - many individuals in the medical and scientific field have labelled caffeine as a diuretic, whether they consider it huge or very little is not really what the first post was about.

    Caffeine is considered a diuretic and that's really the point I'm making here.. the only person commenting on its effectiveness is you - I'm not saying it is going to make anyone lose weight but it certainly makes you piss like a racehorse and dehydrates you.. water makes you go too but water hydrates the body.
    Wow this post is incredibly ironic.

    And no, caffeine (in the amounts that almost every human being consumes) doesn't dehydrate you. And it's laughable that you think someone is following you around just to correct you. Especially since Sara was posting in this thread before you were. Wouldn't that be you following her?
  • dixiewhiskey
    dixiewhiskey Posts: 3,333 Member
    dixiewhiskey And I think you're biased because you are her friend. Until she started nitpicking at things I posted in a not supportive way, I thought she was really inspiring. I can say whatever I want, it's my opinion to have :). I have more respect for someone who changes their life and doesn't use that as a reason to troll online forums making fun of others. You haven't seen her behaviour in the past so I don't think it's really fair to comment and say that I'm being overly sensitive. I've also seen you do the same **** that she has done too all because someone posted something in your deadlifting thread. Thanks for your support
    a few seconds ago

    So. One less friend then, I guess.

    See ya and good riddance as friends don't take sides. I said it like it is. I think it's funny that all her friends are now here getting involved too. Exactly what I am talking about.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member

    Incredibly mature. You claim not to recall anything but remember that I was "snarky". I'm far from that and don't appreciate the name calling - I just want to know why out of all the posts here, you consistently decide to nitpick mine when the disagreement is so bloody minor. Is your life that boring? I didn't make my original statement as advice to anyone here that drinking coffee will make you lose weight but as a general statement - many individuals in the medical and scientific field have labelled caffeine as a diuretic, whether they consider it huge or very little is not really what the first post was about.

    Caffeine is considered a diuretic and that's really the point I'm making here.. the only person commenting on its effectiveness is you - I'm not saying it is going to make anyone lose weight but it certainly makes you piss like a racehorse and dehydrates you.. water makes you go too but water hydrates the body.

    Here's the thing....Caffeine being a diuretic is one of those well propagated myths. If you google "Is caffeine a diuretic" you'll see, from all the current scientific hits, it's not actually considered a diuretic except in a few specific set of circumstances and in extremely high doses. Water acts as a very mild diuretic, and the diuretic properties of caffeinated beverages is similar to that of regular water. There might be some truth to making you pee more, but that's stimulation of your bladder, not actually more urine.

    I think you're overreacting by taking Sara's response personally. She picks apart myths and discredits them with credible science. You happened to post about one of these myths. I would recommend not making your next post be about meal timing or detox diets if you want to avoid this pwning in the future. :flowerforyou:
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    If you drink more water than your body can handle then you can actually drown. Did you know that before you started telling people to drink a gallon of water?

    Before starting 5:2 I hardly drank any water, I'd drink coffee mainly. I lost a huge amount of weight. There goes that theory.

    Yes, coffee is a diuretic. I guess everyone should just load up on caffeine now.... :huh: :laugh:
    Water is a diuretic. So are apples, pears, cherries, celery stalks, and lettuce. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

    Also, drinking a gallon of water a day is laughably bad advice. For proper hydration, drink when you're thirsty. That's it. Being over hydrated does nothing for you but stress and wear out your kidneys.

    Drink whatever fluid you like. Stay hydrated. Eat more tuna brownies. And double up on vodka.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    dixiewhiskey And I think you're biased because you are her friend. Until she started nitpicking at things I posted in a not supportive way, I thought she was really inspiring. I can say whatever I want, it's my opinion to have :). I have more respect for someone who changes their life and doesn't use that as a reason to troll online forums making fun of others. You haven't seen her behaviour in the past so I don't think it's really fair to comment and say that I'm being overly sensitive. I've also seen you do the same **** that she has done too all because someone posted something in your deadlifting thread. Thanks for your support
    a few seconds ago

    So. One less friend then, I guess.

    See ya and good riddance as friends don't take sides. I said it like it is. I think it's funny that all her friends are now here getting involved too. Exactly what I am talking about.

    Oh my lawd...they posted in the thread earlier.
  • Otterluv
    Otterluv Posts: 9,083 Member
    dixiewhiskey And I think you're biased because you are her friend. Until she started nitpicking at things I posted in a not supportive way, I thought she was really inspiring. I can say whatever I want, it's my opinion to have :). I have more respect for someone who changes their life and doesn't use that as a reason to troll online forums making fun of others. You haven't seen her behaviour in the past so I don't think it's really fair to comment and say that I'm being overly sensitive. I've also seen you do the same **** that she has done too all because someone posted something in your deadlifting thread. Thanks for your support
    a few seconds ago

    So. One less friend then, I guess.

    See ya and good riddance as friends don't take sides. I said it like it is. I think it's funny that all her friends are now here getting involved too. Exactly what I am talking about.

    Oh my lawd...they posted in the thread earlier.

    Yep, if you look, we've been here for quite a while. Waaay before any drama (or perceived drama).
  • grggmrtn
    grggmrtn Posts: 171 Member
    My ex's new cat is pregnant. So after taking MY cat for the companionship, They now have 2 dogs, 3 cats of which one is pregnant. How's THAT for companionship?

    On the upside, I'm going to London for 6 days 5 nights now on Wednesday, and I'm planning on having a LOAD of fun, without having to hire a pet-babysitter. It's gonna be EPIC!!!

    ...



    Off topic you say? You mean... there's a topic here?
  • Joehenny
    Joehenny Posts: 1,222 Member
    II already drink a gallon plus. What should I do? Drink two?
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    My ex's new cat is pregnant. So after taking MY cat for the companionship, They now have 2 dogs, 3 cats of which one is pregnant. How's THAT for companionship?

    On the upside, I'm going to London for 6 days 5 nights now on Wednesday, and I'm planning on having a LOAD of fun, without having to hire a pet-babysitter. It's gonna be EPIC!!!

    ...



    Off topic you say? You mean... there's a topic here?

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  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    My ex's new cat is pregnant. So after taking MY cat for the companionship, They now have 2 dogs, 3 cats of which one is pregnant. How's THAT for companionship?

    On the upside, I'm going to London for 6 days 5 nights now on Wednesday, and I'm planning on having a LOAD of fun, without having to hire a pet-babysitter. It's gonna be EPIC!!!

    ...



    Off topic you say? You mean... there's a topic here?

    Ooo...jelly.


    Not about the cat though..about the trip.
  • grggmrtn
    grggmrtn Posts: 171 Member
    My ex's new cat is pregnant. So after taking MY cat for the companionship, They now have 2 dogs, 3 cats of which one is pregnant. How's THAT for companionship?

    On the upside, I'm going to London for 6 days 5 nights now on Wednesday, and I'm planning on having a LOAD of fun, without having to hire a pet-babysitter. It's gonna be EPIC!!!

    ...



    Off topic you say? You mean... there's a topic here?

    Ooo...jelly.


    Not about the cat though..about the trip.


    jelly?
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    My ex's new cat is pregnant. So after taking MY cat for the companionship, They now have 2 dogs, 3 cats of which one is pregnant. How's THAT for companionship?

    On the upside, I'm going to London for 6 days 5 nights now on Wednesday, and I'm planning on having a LOAD of fun, without having to hire a pet-babysitter. It's gonna be EPIC!!!

    ...



    Off topic you say? You mean... there's a topic here?

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    No Joy_Joy, like this

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  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    My ex's new cat is pregnant. So after taking MY cat for the companionship, They now have 2 dogs, 3 cats of which one is pregnant. How's THAT for companionship?

    On the upside, I'm going to London for 6 days 5 nights now on Wednesday, and I'm planning on having a LOAD of fun, without having to hire a pet-babysitter. It's gonna be EPIC!!!


    Off topic you say? You mean... there's a topic here?

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    No Joy_Joy, like this

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    Not this?

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    Doing it wrong?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    My ex's new cat is pregnant. So after taking MY cat for the companionship, They now have 2 dogs, 3 cats of which one is pregnant. How's THAT for companionship?

    On the upside, I'm going to London for 6 days 5 nights now on Wednesday, and I'm planning on having a LOAD of fun, without having to hire a pet-babysitter. It's gonna be EPIC!!!

    ...



    Off topic you say? You mean... there's a topic here?

    Ooo...jelly.


    Not about the cat though..about the trip.


    jelly?

    Slang for jealous that I am probably far too old to be using in good conscience.
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    My ex's new cat is pregnant. So after taking MY cat for the companionship, They now have 2 dogs, 3 cats of which one is pregnant. How's THAT for companionship?

    On the upside, I'm going to London for 6 days 5 nights now on Wednesday, and I'm planning on having a LOAD of fun, without having to hire a pet-babysitter. It's gonna be EPIC!!!


    Off topic you say? You mean... there's a topic here?

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    No Joy_Joy, like this

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    Not this?

    cat-drinks-water-o.gif

    Doing it wrong?

    ...I got nothing. You win.
  • grggmrtn
    grggmrtn Posts: 171 Member
    My ex's new cat is pregnant. So after taking MY cat for the companionship, They now have 2 dogs, 3 cats of which one is pregnant. How's THAT for companionship?

    On the upside, I'm going to London for 6 days 5 nights now on Wednesday, and I'm planning on having a LOAD of fun, without having to hire a pet-babysitter. It's gonna be EPIC!!!

    ...



    Off topic you say? You mean... there's a topic here?

    Ooo...jelly.


    Not about the cat though..about the trip.


    jelly?

    Slang for jealous that I am probably far too old to be using in good conscience.

    Aaah, gotcha. I getcha, it's gonna be a totally gnarly trip, like, way wicked.

    Wait, wrong decade...
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    My ex's new cat is pregnant. So after taking MY cat for the companionship, They now have 2 dogs, 3 cats of which one is pregnant. How's THAT for companionship?

    On the upside, I'm going to London for 6 days 5 nights now on Wednesday, and I'm planning on having a LOAD of fun, without having to hire a pet-babysitter. It's gonna be EPIC!!!


    Off topic you say? You mean... there's a topic here?

    Cat_drinking_water_out_of_sink_GIF816.gif

    No Joy_Joy, like this

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    Not this?

    cat-drinks-water-o.gif

    Doing it wrong?

    ...I got nothing. You win.

    :bigsmile: :flowerforyou:
  • PhoenixEve
    PhoenixEve Posts: 131 Member
    I usually gain about a pound of water weight from showering. Does this count? Should i shower longer or more often? Or would a bath be more effective?

    Honestly though, i probably should drink more water than i do.
  • pinkraynedropjacki
    pinkraynedropjacki Posts: 3,027 Member
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    Sorry I win.
  • Starynh
    Starynh Posts: 8 Member
    Water was always one of my main diet units! I was just scared I'd gain more if I drank more...Thanks for clearing things up, now I won't be afraid to drink a lot of water now. :)
  • imhc93
    imhc93 Posts: 23
    Sheesh, this is the first post I've ever read, and really, if people disagree with the original post/recommendation, I don't think that's a reason for the poster (gallon water-drinker) to blast people to the wall and be so rude and essentially calling them pubescent.

    Let's have some prospective here that just because you think drinking a gallon of water a day is akin to the coming of the next messiah, not everyone will agree with you, and when you write a public post you need to consider that. For instance, I eat tons of fish, and people constantly say I shouldn't and to be aware of mercury levels. And my response is, You know what? You're right. I understand where you're coming from. Let's keep our eye on the ball here, folks. And that is, we're all on here to get healthy and there are many different ways to do that.

    Okay, off to have a glass of merlot. I mean...water.


    ^ this..