How gross is fast food to you
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Fast food doesn't gross me out because most foods don't gross me out to begin with. I don't believe in demonizing food because I've already experienced an unhealthy relationship with food in various manners and I'm done with that. A healthy mindset isn't achieved by being uptight and cultish about the foods you eat. The only foods I stay away from and find gross are the ones I just don't like....like okra & brussel sprouts. Jalapenos, tabasco sauce, and wasabi are just fabulous.
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*gags..and not in the good way either*0 -
I have been craving a Habanero Ranch burger from Mickey D's all day because of this thread....0
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I still don't see how it's false advertising which was your original argument. And when you think about it, McD's may not be the "best" choice for some, but the meals do have protein and other nutrients that someone living in poverty and not eating enough could benefit from. So I'm not sure why they're so evil for selling affordable food to impoverished areas.
I'm not going to read a whole book for me to accept the one point as accurate. I also don't eat fast food anymore for reasons stated earlier so I don't need the "push."
What they're saying is actually true. These companies pay "food scientists" hundreds of millions of dollars annually to sit in laboratories and devise new and devious ways to legally addict their consumers to their products. Soft drink manufacturers do it, fast food chains do it, even household names like Kellogg's and Nestle do it. Fast food chains are FAR more guilty of this than most, as their entire business revolves around people becoming dependent on their product and returning daily.
I can't do much to convince you; frankly, I wouldn't trust any links you threw at me over the internet, so I wouldn't expect you to trust mine. However, you can do your own research. They use all kinds of chemical engineering and have precise formulas to set off the brain's receptors JUST right to force you to feel a certain way when you ingest their products. I'm not exaggerating, and it's 100% for real. Take a read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/the-extraordinary-science-of-junk-food.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Or read this excerpt:has shown that the ingredients in junk food, especially vegetable-based oils, act on the brain in similar ways to marijuana, inducing hunger by causing the body to produce substances called endocannabinoids. Simply put, our bodies are biologically wired to seek out high fat, high salt, high sugar foods – so-called hyper-palatable foods – and the corporations that feed us are profiting from those instincts, all the while putting our health at risk. And that risk has been quantified, and the toll taken by overconsumption of processed foods is well documented. Obesity-related illness accounts for roughly $190 billion in additional health care spending in the U.S., with most of these costs being borne by those of lower socio-economic status. Our health care system is becoming over-burdened by those who are addicted to junk. In a way, American taxpayers are footing the bill for corporate manipulation of food.
From this article:
http://www.policymic.com/articles/28009/the-science-behind-your-likely-addiction-to-junk-food
These are internet articles, and people love to say "you can't trust what you read on the internet" - so if you don't believe it, go research it yourself. The book the other poster recommended is a great one, with thousands of interesting, cited, factual findings.
So they spend money to make people want to buy their food. So? Don't most businesses spend tons of money to make sure their product is the most appealing?0 -
it isn't about 'good foods' versus 'bad foods' for me, it's more of 'do i really want this, and can i work this into my totals for the day'. i still like fast food every once in awhile [jack-in-the-box tacos or their ultimate cheeseburger and curly fries, wendy's spicy chicken sandwich or taco salad]. altho, a few months ago i had some mickey d's fish mc bites just to try them, and those tasted like cheap carnival food, were served @ room temperature and then made me sick, and that was the first mickey d's i'd had in years.
what i really like is a good burger and fries from a non-fast-food restaurant that does hamburgers well [and also serves beer, lol]. if i really want a burger, and i can fit it into the day, i have one.0 -
Nine out of 10 people in line at the grocery store are obese, too. Maybe you shouldn't shop there, either. :-)
This is statistically unlikely. I don't know what country is referred to in the post(s) above, but < 1/2 of Americans are obese. I don't know of a country that has a 90% obesity rate, so it would be very unlikely that every grocery store in any area would happen to have 90% obese clientele at the time one individual chose to shop there.0 -
Nine out of 10 people in line at the grocery store are obese, too. Maybe you shouldn't shop there, either. :-)
This is statistically unlikely. I don't know what country is referred to in the post(s) above, but < 1/2 of Americans are obese. I don't know of a country that has a 90% obesity rate, so it would be very unlikely that every grocery store in any area would happen to have 90% obese clientele at the time one individual chose to shop there.
Same with a fast foot joint then too, right?0 -
I have a rule if it comes in a Styrofoam/cardboard box and you eat it while driving down the road, it can’t be good for you.0
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I don't know, because I don't especially like fast food. It doesn't fill me up or make me feel satisfied. I've had fast food maybe 5 or 6 times in the last 30 years, on road trips when nothing else was available, and all I remember is that it was blah.0
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Nine out of 10 people in line at the grocery store are obese, too. Maybe you shouldn't shop there, either. :-)
This is statistically unlikely. I don't know what country is referred to in the post(s) above, but < 1/2 of Americans are obese. I don't know of a country that has a 90% obesity rate, so it would be very unlikely that every grocery store in any area would happen to have 90% obese clientele at the time one individual chose to shop there.
Wait a moment. I realize that most are not obese but visually it can be hard to tell. I believe the obesity rate in the U.S. is in the 30% range, but the overweight rate is in the 60% range. Please feel free to check my numbers here. The point being, you see a lot of overweight people out there.0 -
the last time I ate fast food I got very very sick. I don't eat it anymore, and if I go out with friends I can usually find a salad that fits my dietary needs.0
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I have a rule if it comes in a Styrofoam/cardboard box and you eat it while driving down the road, it can’t be good for you.
Pizza is good, isn't it?0 -
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I have a rule if it comes in a Styrofoam/cardboard box and you eat it while driving down the road, it can’t be good for you.
Pizza is good, isn't it?
So if I put fruits and veggies in a card board container to hold them and eat them while driving, they automatically become bad? Oh nuuuu!0 -
i still eat fast food weekly i like it
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i have just changed my choices a bit and limited the sheer quantity i get what i get but sometimes the only cure for wanting a baconator is getting a baconator :laugh: (though i usually get the son of instead of the double i use to get)0 -
I work at Burger King, so I end up eating it a lot. If you take off the mayo, cheese, sauces, french fries, and soda, the nutrition isn't actually all that bad. At that point, though, it is more economical to get the supplies at the grocery store and make it yourself because that's basically cutting out the things people like about the food...(unless you get a discount there like me!)0
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Nine out of 10 people in line at the grocery store are obese, too. Maybe you shouldn't shop there, either. :-)
This is statistically unlikely. I don't know what country is referred to in the post(s) above, but < 1/2 of Americans are obese. I don't know of a country that has a 90% obesity rate, so it would be very unlikely that every grocery store in any area would happen to have 90% obese clientele at the time one individual chose to shop there.
Same with a fast foot joint then too, right?
No, only obese people eat fast food food or is that that obese people only eat fast food? Some manner of logic is being employed that make one statement fine and the other worthy of discrediting, I'm sure.0 -
....DONT LIKE IT! only fast food (drink) I go for is a coffee XD0
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<----Eats fast food every week.
If your calorie goal and macros are being met without causing you to have too many calories total, fast food tastes too good to pass up. Except for onion rings and onions on top of burgers...or anything onion for that matter. They're nasty no matter what they are cooked in.0 -
So they spend money to make people want to buy their food. So? Don't most businesses spend tons of money to make sure their product is the most appealing?
Respectfully, I think there's a rather substantial difference between purposefully manipulating the contents of an ingested item in order to physically addict the user and Apple redesigning their newest iPhone with beveled edges and upgraded speakers.
It may look like simple product marketing, but it's truly an ethical debate. Imagine if Crest started putting Heroin in their mouthwash so that you'd never want to use another brand again. Mind you, I'm not saying that these companies are drugging us with harmful or illegal substances, because they're not. I'm just saying that they're purposefully manipulating the human brain into craving and desiring their product. This isn't a matter of liking the way it tastes leading to you buying the product (akin to liking the way the new iPhone looks leading to you buying the iPhone), this is a matter of a company intentionally causing a physical addiction to their product to force you to buy it again. Take a look at the tobacco industry - same gig, except tobacco is taxed out the *kitten*, illegal for minors and illegal to advertise.0 -
I used to love McDonald's quarter pounders with cheese and would easily eat two at one sitting. Since having my VSG, I wouldn't dare nor do I have the desire. The sodium alone in fast food will kill ya!0
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Fast food isn't very gross to me. I just don't eat it very often because most of it is high in calories for not much food.
Taco Bell was my vice before I started losing weight, and is still my favorite thing to eat when I have a "cheat day."0 -
I love how burgers and fries are being compared to iPhones and cigarettes in this thread. LMFAO0
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So they spend money to make people want to buy their food. So? Don't most businesses spend tons of money to make sure their product is the most appealing?
Respectfully, I think there's a rather substantial difference between purposefully manipulating the contents of an ingested item in order to physically addict the user and Apple redesigning their newest iPhone with beveled edges and upgraded speakers.
It may look like simple product marketing, but it's truly an ethical debate. Imagine if Crest started putting Heroin in their mouthwash so that you'd never want to use another brand again. Mind you, I'm not saying that these companies are drugging us with harmful or illegal substances, because they're not. I'm just saying that they're purposefully manipulating the human brain into craving and desiring their product. This isn't a matter of liking the way it tastes leading to you buying the product (akin to liking the way the new iPhone looks leading to you buying the iPhone), this is a matter of a company intentionally causing a physical addiction to their product to force you to buy it again. Take a look at the tobacco industry - same gig, except tobacco is taxed out the *kitten*, illegal for minors and illegal to advertise.
You're confusing fast food with casual dining chains. The manipulation is higher at the latter as more money can be spent per serving. Fast food is actually pretty basic. That said, I always get a fair amount of amusement from people who get all hot and bothered by this type of thing. They're usually the ones who have intentionally closed their eyes to what they are eating in the first place.0 -
So they spend money to make people want to buy their food. So? Don't most businesses spend tons of money to make sure their product is the most appealing?
Respectfully, I think there's a rather substantial difference between purposefully manipulating the contents of an ingested item in order to physically addict the user and Apple redesigning their newest iPhone with beveled edges and upgraded speakers.
It may look like simple product marketing, but it's truly an ethical debate. Imagine if Crest started putting Heroin in their mouthwash so that you'd never want to use another brand again. Mind you, I'm not saying that these companies are drugging us with harmful or illegal substances, because they're not. I'm just saying that they're purposefully manipulating the human brain into craving and desiring their product. This isn't a matter of liking the way it tastes leading to you buying the product (akin to liking the way the new iPhone looks leading to you buying the iPhone), this is a matter of a company intentionally causing a physical addiction to their product to force you to buy it again. Take a look at the tobacco industry - same gig, except tobacco is taxed out the *kitten*, illegal for minors and illegal to advertise.
Respectfully, until they start pumping crack or meth into my burger it is no different than the movie posters that use certain colors and sharp to be more eye-catching and invoke certain emotion in us.0 -
I love how burgers and fries are being compared to iPhones and cigarettes in this thread. LMFAO
Yeah, corporations intentionally creating physical addictions to their food is pretty funny I guess. LMFAO0 -
It depends on the place. I dislike McDonalds and think the buns they use always feel gooey.
I still like Wendy's, CFA, In-Out-burger, KFC but I don't eat there a lot. Once in a while when in a rush. I do occasionally eat BK, but having worked there, the food isn't as appealing lol....
Honestly though, if I'm going to waste money I may as well cough up a few more dollars and go to a sit-down restaurant. Truthfully though, I should not eat this kind of food because it makes me sick (high volumes of grease make me sick...). I'm just gluten for punishment.0 -
So they spend money to make people want to buy their food. So? Don't most businesses spend tons of money to make sure their product is the most appealing?
Respectfully, I think there's a rather substantial difference between purposefully manipulating the contents of an ingested item in order to physically addict the user and Apple redesigning their newest iPhone with beveled edges and upgraded speakers.
It may look like simple product marketing, but it's truly an ethical debate. Imagine if Crest started putting Heroin in their mouthwash so that you'd never want to use another brand again. Mind you, I'm not saying that these companies are drugging us with harmful or illegal substances, because they're not. I'm just saying that they're purposefully manipulating the human brain into craving and desiring their product. This isn't a matter of liking the way it tastes leading to you buying the product (akin to liking the way the new iPhone looks leading to you buying the iPhone), this is a matter of a company intentionally causing a physical addiction to their product to force you to buy it again. Take a look at the tobacco industry - same gig, except tobacco is taxed out the *kitten*, illegal for minors and illegal to advertise.
Microsoft admitted that they spent a good amount of time and resources researching and adjusting their Surface tablet to get it to make the perfect click sound when the keypad/cover attaches to the tablet. It's physically addictive. Just like popping bubble wrap.0 -
I've not had a burger since 1990....it is incredibly gross to me.0
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Nine out of 10 people in line at the grocery store are obese, too. Maybe you shouldn't shop there, either. :-)
This is statistically unlikely. I don't know what country is referred to in the post(s) above, but < 1/2 of Americans are obese. I don't know of a country that has a 90% obesity rate, so it would be very unlikely that every grocery store in any area would happen to have 90% obese clientele at the time one individual chose to shop there.
Wait a moment. I realize that most are not obese but visually it can be hard to tell. I believe the obesity rate in the U.S. is in the 30% range, but the overweight rate is in the 60% range. Please feel free to check my numbers here. The point being, you see a lot of overweight people out there.
"a lot" of "overweight" people =/= 9 out of every 10 people being obese.
And to another post, yes it would be statistically unlikely to see 90% obese people in a fast food joint also. The percentages may vary statistically but I don't have the information to run those numbers.0 -
Respectfully, until they start pumping crack or meth into my burger it is no different than the movie posters that use certain colors and sharp to be more eye-catching and invoke certain emotion in us.
It's truly not the same thing. There is no proven psychological link (on a societal scale) between seeing a color on a movie poster and feeling a physical need to see that movie. It might pique your interest, or increase your desire to see it, but it is not forcing your mind to bypass your cognitive processes and feel a physical need to see that movie. These corporations, however, are doing just that. They have devised ways to make humans (on a large scale) feel a physical addiction to their food so that they have increased profits. You can deny it, but it's just scientific fact. Coca-cola was on to it back in the day, putting literal cocaine into their beverages, until that was outlawed. They've just had to find craftier ways to get around it.0
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