You guys really like to over complicate things.
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The tone and approach of this thread indicates it was created by a child.
That is what scorches my tortillas. It's not what is said, because it is true ( even though there was no use for posting something that is common knowledge in this community for the 4227th time), but what bothered me was the tone.
We are not all idiots that must be told over and over again, but many of us have a hard time to manage this new " lifestyle " after often decades of nutritional self abuse. But to recognize that one needs a certain amount of maturity, which is missing in much what is posted.
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OPs advice applies to the VAST majority of people.
^^ This.
Furthermore, you've gotta drastically change the way you EAT. Meaning, exercise is great but count your calories and be meticulous and accurate. When I first started, I minimally exercised, but I was at 1000 calorie a day deficit under maintenance. If that's too strict, do 750. I lost weight almost like clockwork.
You eat one wrong food and vastly underestimate its calories, you've destroyed a day's worth of exercise at least.0 -
People in this thread,
You may be older than me and have more wisdom about life and everything that comes with it, but i can guarantee you that very few people in this thread would know more about training or nutrition than me. I don't understand why all of you have to complicate everything. If I was 40 years old would you take what I say as a fact and not even question it? If so I feel sorry for you.
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Generally, age does not always bring wisdom. It takes more than just getting old to be wise.
^This too.
I mean, just look at all the period threads here (not including ones dealing with an actual medical condition).
Older =/= Smarter0 -
I've lost weight once, and I've kept it off for 10 years. (so far)You're right. Losing weight is not difficult for most people.
Keeping it off is. So the research says....
That has a lot to do with fad diets and people not understanding how the body works. People that follow what's in the OP generally keep it off.
I think it's a tad more varied and complicate than that.
I think we're all good at losing.
We're all sure we're going to keep it off.
True "lifestyles" "ways of life" seem to help.
Counting calories forever...I'm not so sure. Time will tell, and I'll be thrilled to learn I'm completely wrong.0 -
If I learned one thing in this thread,
it's that I hope I die before I grow so old that I turn senile and delusional with my head stuck up so far up my own buttocks
you don't help the cause for leaving age out of things by posting crap like this.0 -
People in this thread,
You may be older than me and have more wisdom about life and everything that comes with it, but i can guarantee you that very few people in this thread would know more about training or nutrition than me. I don't understand why all of you have to complicate everything. If I was 40 years old would you take what I say as a fact and not even question it? If so I feel sorry for you.
/thread
Generally, age does not always bring wisdom. It takes more than just getting old to be wise.
^This too.
I mean, just look at all the period threads here (not including ones dealing with an actual medical condition).
Older =/= Smarter
Oh snap. She went there.
Actually, I like this one more.
...meh. Lets have both.0 -
OPs advice applies to the VAST majority of people.
^^ This.
Furthermore, you've gotta drastically change the way you EAT. Meaning, exercise is great but count your calories and be meticulous and accurate. When I first started, I minimally exercised, but I was at 1000 calorie a day deficit under maintenance. If that's too strict, do 750. I lost weight almost like clockwork.
You eat one wrong food and vastly underestimate its calories, you've destroyed a day's worth of exercise at least.
I would even say 750 is too much unless you're really over weight. A smaller deficit will help keep muscle mass while cutting.0 -
I've lost weight once, and kept it off for 10 years.You're right. Losing weight is not difficult for most people.
Keeping it off is. So the research says....
That has a lot to do with fad diets and people not understanding how the body works. People that follow what's in the OP generally keep it off.
I think it's a tad more varied and complicate than that.
I think we're all good at losing.
We're all sure we're going to keep it off.
True "lifestyles" "ways of life" seem to help.
Counting calories forever...I'm not so sure. Time will tell, and I'll be thrilled to learn I'm completely wrong.
Well after you've lost weight and counted calories for a while you get a general idea of what you need. Once you have hit your goal you can become a little more lenient and not necessarily track everything, but have a general idea in your head to keep you within the weight range you want.0 -
If I learned one thing in this thread,
it's that I hope I die before I grow so old that I turn senile and delusional with my head stuck up so far up my own buttocks
you don't help the cause for leaving age out of things by posting crap like this.
Cause is already lost m8.
People gon do what they gon do.
people will always make excuses instead of putting the blame on themselves.
While everyone else who goes out to achieve their goals and dreams will be critical of themselves and take matters into their own hands.0 -
For me it wasn't about that. It was about eating well. Nourishing my body. I didn't count, much, for ten years. Now, as I go through menopause I'm having to pay more attention (to keep the weight off). I have always been active, that was never my issue. I just had no idea how to eat. Counting wasn't the issue. For me.
I've lost weight once, and kept it off for 10 years.You're right. Losing weight is not difficult for most people.
Keeping it off is. So the research says....
That has a lot to do with fad diets and people not understanding how the body works. People that follow what's in the OP generally keep it off.
I think it's a tad more varied and complicate than that.
I think we're all good at losing.
We're all sure we're going to keep it off.
True "lifestyles" "ways of life" seem to help.
Counting calories forever...I'm not so sure. Time will tell, and I'll be thrilled to learn I'm completely wrong.
Well after you've lost weight and counted calories for a while you get a general idea of what you need. Once you have hit your goal you can become a little more lenient and not necessarily track everything, but have a general idea in your head to keep you within the weight range you want.0 -
It's true that weight loss really is not complicated. Everybody knows that all you have to do to successfully lose weight is sip the tears of a baby unicorn every other Tuesday precisely at daybreak. Duh...0
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For me it wasn't about that. It was about eating well. Nourishing my body. I didn't count, much, for ten years. Now, as I go through menopause I'm having to pay more attention (to keep the weight off). I have always been active, that was never my issue. I just had no idea how to eat. Counting wasn't the issue. For me.
I've lost weight once, and kept it off for 10 years.You're right. Losing weight is not difficult for most people.
Keeping it off is. So the research says....
That has a lot to do with fad diets and people not understanding how the body works. People that follow what's in the OP generally keep it off.
I think it's a tad more varied and complicate than that.
I think we're all good at losing.
We're all sure we're going to keep it off.
True "lifestyles" "ways of life" seem to help.
Counting calories forever...I'm not so sure. Time will tell, and I'll be thrilled to learn I'm completely wrong.
Well after you've lost weight and counted calories for a while you get a general idea of what you need. Once you have hit your goal you can become a little more lenient and not necessarily track everything, but have a general idea in your head to keep you within the weight range you want.
guess it's a case of the hormonal changes like we were talking about a few pages back0 -
If it's that simple, why have I only lost 10 pounds since February when I'm eating 500-800 calories less than my burn everyday?
Seriously, I'd really like to know why I'm not losing the weight. This is very frustrating.0 -
Ok. Sorry, it's a 13 page thread. Not sure which of the many posts you're referring to.
For me it wasn't about that. It was about eating well. Nourishing my body. I didn't count, much, for ten years. Now, as I go through menopause I'm having to pay more attention (to keep the weight off). I have always been active, that was never my issue. I just had no idea how to eat. Counting wasn't the issue. For me.
I've lost weight once, and kept it off for 10 years.You're right. Losing weight is not difficult for most people.
Keeping it off is. So the research says....
That has a lot to do with fad diets and people not understanding how the body works. People that follow what's in the OP generally keep it off.
I think it's a tad more varied and complicate than that.
I think we're all good at losing.
We're all sure we're going to keep it off.
True "lifestyles" "ways of life" seem to help.
Counting calories forever...I'm not so sure. Time will tell, and I'll be thrilled to learn I'm completely wrong.
Well after you've lost weight and counted calories for a while you get a general idea of what you need. Once you have hit your goal you can become a little more lenient and not necessarily track everything, but have a general idea in your head to keep you within the weight range you want.
guess it's a case of the hormonal changes like we were talking about a few pages back
But for me: me at 36 ish when I was losing: no counting. Me now at 48 in menopause: lots of counting, lots of figuring. Don't know if that figures into your :interdastedness". Doesn't much matter really.0 -
I would even say 750 is too much unless you're really over weight. A smaller deficit will help keep muscle mass while cutting.
Agreed. I'm not talking about trimming down, I'm talking about obesity level weight loss. I should have clarified.
I needed to see progress. 2 pounds a week worked for me. Now I've cut myself to only 750 a day deficit.0 -
i can guarantee you that very few people in this thread would know more about training or nutrition than me.
:huh:
Because...0 -
It's true that weight loss really not complicated. Everybody knows that all you have to do to successfully lose weight is sip the tears of a baby unicorn every other Tuesday precisely at daybreak. Duh...
OoOoOoOo that's what I'm doing wrong!
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If it's that simple, why have I only lost 10 pounds since February when I'm eating 500-800 calories less than my burn everyday?
Seriously, I'd really like to know why I'm not losing the weight. This is very frustrating.
Well..seeing as we know nothing about what you are actually eating or doing.....
I suggest starting a thread containing info on your calorie goals, exercise routine, and any medical conditions would be best. Having an open diary and letting people know how you are measuring your food helps too.0 -
If I learned one thing in this thread,
it's that I hope I die before I grow so old that I turn senile and delusional with my head stuck up so far up my own buttocks
You said buttocks!!! Hahahaahha!!
Seriously though,I thought we got through all the drama a few pages ago.......
........and it comes back with a vengeance. I guess this thread still has life in it yet!!!!!
Dundun!! Now to see where else it will go
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o.O my deficit is way higher than that. I am at like 1,000 if I do nothing all day and then 1956 deficit if I exercise 2 hours a day. I eat as much as my body feels it needs and that's the story.
Also....was suppose to be a quote to someones post xD0 -
If it's that simple, why have I only lost 10 pounds since February when I'm eating 500-800 calories less than my burn everyday?
Seriously, I'd really like to know why I'm not losing the weight. This is very frustrating.
Maybe its time to do exercise as well and look at the quality of foods you eat.
None of that canned foods stuff.0 -
It's true that weight loss really not complicated. Everybody knows that all you have to do to successfully lose weight is sip the tears of a baby unicorn every other Tuesday precisely at daybreak. Duh...
OoOoOoOo that's what I'm doing wrong!
Let me guess, you were on the every-third-Wednesday schedule? No wonder you're frustrated!0 -
i can guarantee you that very few people in this thread would know more about training or nutrition than me.
:huh:
Because...
Because I've been training for years an tried almost everything, I spend about half of my day researching training and nutrition information, and I'm studying Exercise Science at one of the best schools in NY for it. In no way am I saying I know anything, or even half of the information out there, but from what I've seen in this thread I'd say I'm one of the most knowledgeable.0 -
But the OP suggests none of that matters. just eating under maintenance matters...If it's that simple, why have I only lost 10 pounds since February when I'm eating 500-800 calories less than my burn everyday?
Seriously, I'd really like to know why I'm not losing the weight. This is very frustrating.
Well..seeing as we know nothing about what you are actually eating or doing.....
I suggest starting a thread containing info on your calorie goals, exercise routine, and any medical conditions would be best. Having an open diary and letting people know how you are measuring your food helps too.0 -
If it's that simple, why have I only lost 10 pounds since February when I'm eating 500-800 calories less than my burn everyday?
Seriously, I'd really like to know why I'm not losing the weight. This is very frustrating.
You could be overestimating your daily activity level (go with "sedentary" if you're unsure), overestimating exercise, or underestimating calories. Or any combination. It doesn't take much to throw it off. Just like a budget, it's SO easy to spend money and not stick tightly to allotments.
I'm not saying you're doing any of those things, but it's possible. Also, you could just have slow metabolism or some other sort of metabolic issue.0 -
If it's that simple, why have I only lost 10 pounds since February when I'm eating 500-800 calories less than my burn everyday?
Seriously, I'd really like to know why I'm not losing the weight. This is very frustrating.
Well..seeing as we know nothing about what you are actually eating or doing.....
I suggest starting a thread containing info on your calorie goals, exercise routine, and any medical conditions would be best. Having an open diary and letting people know how you are measuring your food helps too.
^^^ this
would join that thread and try to help0 -
But the OP suggests none of that matters. just eating under maintenance matters...If it's that simple, why have I only lost 10 pounds since February when I'm eating 500-800 calories less than my burn everyday?
Seriously, I'd really like to know why I'm not losing the weight. This is very frustrating.
Well..seeing as we know nothing about what you are actually eating or doing.....
I suggest starting a thread containing info on your calorie goals, exercise routine, and any medical conditions would be best. Having an open diary and letting people know how you are measuring your food helps too.
A lot of times, the people are eating more than they realize and overestimating their burns..which puts them AT maintenance if not over. so it falls in with what the OP is saying, actually.0 -
IFF they are eating more than they realize.
But the OP suggests none of that matters. just eating under maintenance matters...If it's that simple, why have I only lost 10 pounds since February when I'm eating 500-800 calories less than my burn everyday?
Seriously, I'd really like to know why I'm not losing the weight. This is very frustrating.
Well..seeing as we know nothing about what you are actually eating or doing.....
I suggest starting a thread containing info on your calorie goals, exercise routine, and any medical conditions would be best. Having an open diary and letting people know how you are measuring your food helps too.
A lot of times, the people are eating more than they realize and overestimating their burns..which puts them AT maintenance if not over. so it falls in with what the OP is saying, actually.0 -
Mirin most of the posters in this thread now. People actually trying to teach and help others instead of all that crap that was on the first few pages.0
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