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cutting out all "cheat" foods

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  • Posts: 212 Member
    I'm not trolling - that's what I do? It works for me.
  • Posts: 10,413 Member
    I think the point is that this is easy for very very few people. Yes, some approaches are easier than others, but eating "right" was easy, obesity wouldn't be the problem it is.

    The point being made was that people who talk like IIFYM is some miracle solution that makes everything worry-free, simple, balanced, healthy, and satisfying is generally misleading. Even with IIFYM, sacrifices have to be made and decisions need to be balanced. That point is often omitted (or undersold) when talking IIFYM.

    I should have added...

    While IIFYM requires some decisions/sacrifices for most, it will generally require fewer and less restrictive decisions than other approaches, which is what makes it so appealing for a lot of people.
  • Posts: 632 Member
    I'm not trolling - that's what I do? It works for me.

    so you're telling me that you will finish of QUARTS of ice cream and somehow you are still losing weight. BS
  • Posts: 1,283 Member
    I cut out all my cheat foods for 2+ months. They were always on the back of my mind, every time I saw lays at the checkout my mouth was watering. I finally ate some in August. I couldn't get enough. In September I gained 5 lbs back because I ended up eating all my "cheat foods". Now I don't crave them like I used to. It was a bad idea to cut them out completely in the first place :frown:
  • Posts: 10,413 Member

    so you're telling me that you will finish of QUARTS of ice cream and somehow you are still losing weight. BS

    you're missing the bigger picture. Take a couple steps back. 2 quarts is what... 1200 cals depending on the ice cream? I can burn that much in a single workout, and it's very easy to "absorb" those cals over the course of a week and still be in a deficit.
  • Posts: 272 Member
    Be careful about where you want your weight to be. Take your body measurements first and keep doing what your doing. Then check your measurements again in about 2 or 3 weeks, maybe even a month. Then evaluate your position.
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  • Posts: 632 Member

    you're missing the bigger picture. Take a couple steps back. 2 quarts is what... 1200 cals depending on the ice cream? I can burn that much in a single workout, and it's very easy to "absorb" those cals over the course of a week and still be in a deficit.

    I don't do weekly deficits and 1200 calories for 2 quarts of ice cream, try 2200
  • Posts: 214 Member

    I beg to differ fast foods are not a cheat meal for me. If we are talking pizza, I do have that frequently. Bacon swiss cheese burgers and fries I make at home. The fries are always Orieda. And soda, that's not a cheat meal....that's just soda and it makes no sense for me to even try to fit that in.

    You've missed the point. If you avoid a food or a type of food, those would be your "cheat" foods. That's all the OP is doing. He has identified his "cheat" foods that may be sabotaging his progress and is choosing to avoid them. If ice cream and cereal fits within your budget, good on you. I can occasionally fit an ice cream bar into mine, but I do choose what I eat carefully; not just quantity. I do this because I would rather consume 500 calories in the form of a juicy steak than a Cinnabon pastry.

    You've done a great job losing weight and getting into great shape. You made choices and you made sacrifices. Hopefully, no one told you that you were wrong for avoiding soda and fast food.
  • Posts: 10,413 Member

    I don't do weekly deficits and 1200 calories for 2 quarts of ice cream, try 2200

    ok, so 2200. That's 2 good bike rides for me. So what?

    Why don't you do weekly deficits? Isn't a weekly deficit just the result of 7 daily deficits? I'd go nuts if I looked at everything strictly on a daily basis. A bigger, weekly view keeps me sane.

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  • Posts: 1,155 Member
    I don't do weekly deficits and 1200 calories for 2 quarts of ice cream, try 2200

    It's not that much to be honest, 1200 or even 2200. I've had days I logged 4300 calories OVER my allowance which back then was around 2000 calories. It didn't prevent me from losing over 40lbs so far.
    That was when I was restricting myself so much that I would end up binging once in a while.

    I don't work that way anymore but I do still have days I will go over (Mostly cause of the booze lol) but I don't stress it anymore.
  • Posts: 632 Member

    ok, so 2200. That's 2 good bike rides for me. So what?

    Why don't you do weekly deficits? Isn't a weekly deficit just the result of 7 daily deficits? I'd go nuts if I looked at everything strictly on a daily basis. A bigger, weekly view keeps me sane.

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    and that works for you, to me I look at it day by day
  • Posts: 29,136 Member

    Yes, you would be correct. Right now i'm eating roughly 2200 calories a day, maybe i'll need to drop it down to 1800

    why don't you back down to 2100 first and see how that goes for a week ...and then if still no loss go to 2000...????
  • Posts: 1,206 Member
    All the "I eat junk food all the time people" are flat out kidding themselves about how good they have it. They're drinking the Kool Aid. Great. You eat one serving of ice cream every day? Enjoy that quarter pint of Ben and Jerry's. Whoopie. You had chocolate today? Oh wow, a whole third of a Hershey bar? You wild man. Tonight was pizza night? Oh, one whole slice. My friend B.F. Deal is impressed.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this approach is right/wrong I just think the way people try to sell it as some amazing worry free non-restrictive lifestyle is silly.

    I think you a kidding yourself. I eat poptarts, donuts, bacon, peanut butter and ice cream daily. And I got down to 6% body fat eating those same foods daily. I live a worry free "eating" lifestyle and can go out to eat and not worry like "oh wtf am I gonna eat there?" like almost everyone on this site.
  • Posts: 10,413 Member

    and that works for you, to me I look at it day by day

    And that's fine. But don't call BS on other people simply because their approach doesn't work for you.


    The trolling you've been doing in this thread has been very subtle. Nicely done.
  • Posts: 632 Member

    And that's fine. But don't call BS on other people simply because their approach doesn't work for you.


    The trolling you've been doing in this thread has been very subtle. Nicely done.

    not trolling,
  • Posts: 2,098 Member

    Well, no, it's just that there's no question in his statement! Just a generalization about changing his weight loss plan.

    I noticed that too...I think the correct response is 'Oh, good luck with that'. I don't do the whole cheat foods/meals/days thing as it's calories that count but I don't think that OP is looking for advice. Bit of a pointless thread really.
  • Posts: 1,903 Member
    It'll probably get you to binge city. At least that's where it would get me....

    Same here.

    I did that last year (before joining MFP), and the cravings got so bad that I was like a tornado tearing through the kitchen and devouring all the pizza, chips, cookies, and ice cream in my path.

    Finding out I can still eat the "bad" foods that I love, but in moderation, was great. It has really helped me to hang in there for the first time and actually have success.
  • Posts: 489 Member

    not trolling,

    Someone who's been a member of this site for over a year, and posts about cutting "cheat foods," which is a topic on these forums, oh, about 5 times a day.

    Definitely not a troll.
  • Posts: 986 Member
    You're a 6'1, 197 lb young dude who only measures by scale, upset because you aren't losing for three WHOLE weeks?

    You've lost over 80 pounds, congratulations! (No snark that's honestly great)

    You say you're seeing a therapist for food issues, I suggest you follow your therapist's advice instead of demonizing any edibles at this point.
  • Posts: 12 Member
    My advice would be to try and change up your workout a bit. If you have been continually losing on your current food plan I wouldn't mess with sucess. Sometimes your body just gets used to certain workouts. I didn't read all comments on this post so forgive me if I am repeating something but have you considered circuit training?
  • Posts: 632 Member
    My advice would be to try and change up your workout a bit. If you have been continually losing on your current food plan I wouldn't mess with sucess. Sometimes your body just gets used to certain workouts. I didn't read all comments on this post so forgive me if I am repeating something but have you considered circuit training?

    I currently am doing the musclepharm get swole program, except I don't follow the bulk-cut phases for the food plan
  • Posts: 2,232 Member
    Cheat foods and will power are different for everyone. I am the type that defined what my cheat foods were from the start then made a plan to avoid them. For me, I needed to do this. I needed to know that I wasn't being driven by foods like cake, cookies, fast foods, etc. As I change my eating habits, get into my routine for working out, and notice a difference in my body, I have started to give myself a break. The difference is, rather than eating half the pizza I can now limit to one or 2 slices. For those that can continue eating what they want and can control themselves from the start, you rock! For others, it's not that easy.
  • Posts: 2,582 Member
    "Cheat" food could just be food eaten after reaching the calorie target. Cutting out "cheat" food in that definition is a basic principle of this app/website, and would lead to success in weight loss objectives.
  • Posts: 12 Member

    I currently am doing the musclepharm get swole program, except I don't follow the bulk-cut phases for the food plan

    I'm not familiar w/ that program. Could you give me a little more detail? I'm interested.
  • Posts: 632 Member

    I'm not familiar w/ that program. Could you give me a little more detail? I'm interested.

    it's a free program that the Co founder Corey Gregory developed 16 weeks. Focusing on compound lifts and high rep ranges. you can get it at bodybuilding.com
  • Posts: 7,739 Member

    then leave the site, you obviously don't need to be here then



    Yeah, man - we don't want people that have actually had success sharing their knowledge and experiences. Let everyone flounder about aimlessly. [/sarcasm]



    Strong trolling, indeed, OP.
  • Posts: 1,206 Member

    then leave the site, you obviously don't need to be here then

    And what are you for here again? To simply troll?
  • Posts: 632 Member



    Yeah, man - we don't want people that have actually had success sharing their knowledge and experiences. Let everyone flounder about aimlessly. [/sarcasm]



    Strong trolling, indeed, OP.

    Sorry I can't take anyone seriously that plays a washburn bass
  • Posts: 12 Member
    I still think changing up your workout could be the ticket. Maybe try something like tennis, basketball, bootcamp or swimming. Shocking your body with different motions can get it out of a plateau. Just my personal opinion and it has worked for me in the past.
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