Why is this even remotely controversial?
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This is horrible! How dare Jordin Sparks jump in this picture! Is she not sensitive to the fact that there are morbidly obese people out there who can't jump that high? This picture will only make such persons feel like complete losers.Something like this is awesome:
I just can't stop imagining that she bit her own boob in the next frame.0 -
So, by the same logic, is this picture controversial?
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The reason why this is getting so much backlash is not the content of the picture or caption itself. It's the discomfort of looking inward and actively thinking about those excuses. It's easier to point fingers at the "bully" than actually examine their lifestyle. It's definitely a projection issue.
I hate to say it but it's male vs. female perception. As women we already feel bombarded with images of bodies better than ours. Some women feel that we are valued on appearance above all other things, to a much greater extent than men. I think in general men are just better about no internalizing things. "Good for this guy, but what does this have to do with me? I don't want to be a body builder anyway." They don't think "Oh my that guy is lean and only has one leg, I must be a lard *kitten*, no one is going to love me, I'll never be good enough".
Personally I'm more inspired by a woman lifting a heavy weight, or enjoying her workout, laughing with her friends, chasing her kids, than I am by a six-pack.
Something like this is awesome:
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I can understand that. The male versus female perception of media or persons in the media varies greatly, in that females do tend to compare those images to themselves way more often than a male would. Unfortunately, too often in a negative way.
But that's exactly the kind of mindset I think this type of photo is trying to combat against. Stop playing the victim; start taking responsibility and time for yourself. You CAN be a mom and still work towards your goals. You CAN be a business owner and still find time for your goals. It's meant to be empowering, not degrading. It's what's being *inferred* that's the problem.
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Here's why this if offensive: the picture and caption imply that EVERY WOMAN should look exactly as ripped and thin as this woman does. The implicit message is that there is no excuse and therefore NO REASON for any female to look less fabulous than this woman does.
It doesn't say "you shouldn't use excuses to not change your lifestyle".
It says "you have no excuse to not look as sexy and fit as me".
I for one can think of many reasons why many women of all ages and types might not look anything like her while offering no excuses and pursuing the best, healthiest lifestyles there is.
To state it another way, this photo and caption is offensive because its clearly referencing outward appearance as the primary goal for a woman or mother to want to pursue fitness.
If you can't see how this victimizes women, then you're part of the problem.
I am part of the problem then, because I feel that saying this victimizes women is laughable.
Apparently I am as well. I think she is beautiful and I am in awe of her amazing stamina to raise threee children that close together and still get them all dressed as well as herself --- the fact that she has a banging body makes me want to be her even more. When I was 400 pounds I would have been pissed... I would have seen it a a personal attack against me.... because at 400 pounds everything weight related was a personal attack against me. Now that I am not that obese person anymore, I am not offended. I am inspired.0 -
"Kang, of Sacramento, California, is a former pageant queen and fitness competitor who founded the nonprofit Fitness Without Borders in 2007. She's also a recovering bulimic."
No, she is not your average "stay-at-home" mom. She already had a serious fitness background prior to having kids.
"Kang says she works out five to six days a week, about an hour at a time, doing a half-hour of strength training and a half-hour of cardio — running, the stair climber, or a spin or Zumba class"
She did not achieve that physique by only doing an hour at a time. That is maintenance for her. She achieved this body prior to children while preparing for pageants and fitness competitions. This alone makes it more likely for her to continue having this body after having children.
I don't think this is controversial, but I don't agree that this is achievable for all women. People are ignoring the facts I posted above which came directly from an interview done with her.
An hour a day 5-6 days a week is more time than is necessary to achieve that physique.0 -
Haters gonna hate brah0
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summing up so far does the ad...
victimize women? no many other things that are way worse do that
motivate women? not me, i'm not motivated by accusations but by the other kind of tough love that gives me truth
empower women? I already knew my power
alienate women? it would seem so by the vitriol she is getting0 -
This is so beyond amazing. I wanna be that woman's best friend!0
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"Kang, of Sacramento, California, is a former pageant queen and fitness competitor who founded the nonprofit Fitness Without Borders in 2007. She's also a recovering bulimic."
No, she is not your average "stay-at-home" mom. She already had a serious fitness background prior to having kids.
"Kang says she works out five to six days a week, about an hour at a time, doing a half-hour of strength training and a half-hour of cardio — running, the stair climber, or a spin or Zumba class"
She did not achieve that physique by only doing an hour at a time. That is maintenance for her. She achieved this body prior to children while preparing for pageants and fitness competitions. This alone makes it more likely for her to continue having this body after having children.
I don't think this is controversial, but I don't agree that this is achievable for all women. People are ignoring the facts I posted above which came directly from an interview done with her.
An hour a day 5-6 days a week is more time than is necessary to achieve that physique.
Continue to ignore the fact that she trained for fitness competitions and pageants prior to having children. I'm sure that was for more than an hour a day.
Once again, that is not the life of most women.0 -
This is so beyond amazing. I wanna be that woman's best friend!
I have lots of friends that look like that now that I just remembered. Where do you live Molly? Maybe you should come to LA?0 -
That woman is awesome. I would have more respect for her though if she just went around being awesome instead of publishing that pic. That 'fitspiration' has a whiff of challenge in my mind. Sort of "I overcame my challenges - your inability to do the same means you are lesser". I fully acknowledge that most of that comes from what I'm bringing to the table in my own mind, but I think she's a fool if she can't acknowledge the multitude of different interpretations that people can make. Instead she seems to blame the beholder - "not my fault you're so negative" Indeed it's not, but there is no need to attempt to delegitimize what seems to be a fairly common interpretation.
From a different perspective though, if I ran across that picture absent any context, I'd probably say "Good for you!" and go on about my day without a second thought.0 -
"Kang, of Sacramento, California, is a former pageant queen and fitness competitor who founded the nonprofit Fitness Without Borders in 2007. She's also a recovering bulimic."
No, she is not your average "stay-at-home" mom. She already had a serious fitness background prior to having kids.
"Kang says she works out five to six days a week, about an hour at a time, doing a half-hour of strength training and a half-hour of cardio — running, the stair climber, or a spin or Zumba class"
She did not achieve that physique by only doing an hour at a time. That is maintenance for her. She achieved this body prior to children while preparing for pageants and fitness competitions. This alone makes it more likely for her to continue having this body after having children.
I don't think this is controversial, but I don't agree that this is achievable for all women. People are ignoring the facts I posted above which came directly from an interview done with her.
An hour a day 5-6 days a week is more time than is necessary to achieve that physique.
Continue to ignore the fact that she trained for fitness competitions and pageants prior to having children. I'm sure that was for more than an hour a day.
Once again, that is not the life of most women.
Who cares what she did before?
You could look like her with an investment of an hour a day 5 times a week.
Sounds like you have your excuses all lined up though.
As a friend pointed out to me earlier: the difference in mindset between successful people like the woman in the OP and people like ejean is what this conversation really highlights.0 -
This is horrible! How dare Jordin Sparks jump in this picture! Is she not sensitive to the fact that there are morbidly obese people out there who can't jump that high? This picture will only make such persons feel like complete losers.Something like this is awesome:
I just can't stop imagining that she bit her own boob in the next frame.
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"Kang, of Sacramento, California, is a former pageant queen and fitness competitor who founded the nonprofit Fitness Without Borders in 2007. She's also a recovering bulimic."
No, she is not your average "stay-at-home" mom. She already had a serious fitness background prior to having kids.
"Kang says she works out five to six days a week, about an hour at a time, doing a half-hour of strength training and a half-hour of cardio — running, the stair climber, or a spin or Zumba class"
She did not achieve that physique by only doing an hour at a time. That is maintenance for her. She achieved this body prior to children while preparing for pageants and fitness competitions. This alone makes it more likely for her to continue having this body after having children.
I don't think this is controversial, but I don't agree that this is achievable for all women. People are ignoring the facts I posted above which came directly from an interview done with her.
An hour a day 5-6 days a week is more time than is necessary to achieve that physique.
Continue to ignore the fact that she trained for fitness competitions and pageants prior to having children. I'm sure that was for more than an hour a day.
Once again, that is not the life of most women.
unfortunately, the life of most women SHOULD include healthy eating and consistent physical activity and the fact that is usually doesnt is a sad reality we are fighting against.
I work 11 and 12 hour days all the time, plus an almost 2 hour commute, plus i lost a hundred pounds and have tons of physical setbacks that i have to work against or around, plus a booming social life and tons of personal projects. I make the effort to workout regularly because I care about my health and i care about it more than just in a 'am i there yet, can i stop now' way.0 -
"Kang, of Sacramento, California, is a former pageant queen and fitness competitor who founded the nonprofit Fitness Without Borders in 2007. She's also a recovering bulimic."
No, she is not your average "stay-at-home" mom. She already had a serious fitness background prior to having kids.
"Kang says she works out five to six days a week, about an hour at a time, doing a half-hour of strength training and a half-hour of cardio — running, the stair climber, or a spin or Zumba class"
She did not achieve that physique by only doing an hour at a time. That is maintenance for her. She achieved this body prior to children while preparing for pageants and fitness competitions. This alone makes it more likely for her to continue having this body after having children.
I don't think this is controversial, but I don't agree that this is achievable for all women. People are ignoring the facts I posted above which came directly from an interview done with her.
An hour a day 5-6 days a week is more time than is necessary to achieve that physique.
Continue to ignore the fact that she trained for fitness competitions and pageants prior to having children. I'm sure that was for more than an hour a day.
Once again, that is not the life of most women.
He isn't ignoring it, he just said it is achievable with only the hour per day a few times per week, which is correct.
But hey, excuses are cool too.0 -
"Kang, of Sacramento, California, is a former pageant queen and fitness competitor who founded the nonprofit Fitness Without Borders in 2007. She's also a recovering bulimic."
No, she is not your average "stay-at-home" mom. She already had a serious fitness background prior to having kids.
"Kang says she works out five to six days a week, about an hour at a time, doing a half-hour of strength training and a half-hour of cardio — running, the stair climber, or a spin or Zumba class"
She did not achieve that physique by only doing an hour at a time. That is maintenance for her. She achieved this body prior to children while preparing for pageants and fitness competitions. This alone makes it more likely for her to continue having this body after having children.
I don't think this is controversial, but I don't agree that this is achievable for all women. People are ignoring the facts I posted above which came directly from an interview done with her.
An hour a day 5-6 days a week is more time than is necessary to achieve that physique.
Continue to ignore the fact that she trained for fitness competitions and pageants prior to having children. I'm sure that was for more than an hour a day.
Once again, that is not the life of most women.
unfortunately, the life of most women SHOULD include healthy eating and consistent physical activity and the fact that is usually doesnt is a sad reality we are fighting against.
I work 11 and 12 hour days all the time, plus an almost 2 hour commute, plus i lost a hundred pounds and have tons of physical setbacks that i have to work against or around, plus a booming social life and tons of personal projects. I make the effort to workout regularly because I care about my health and i care about it more than just in a 'am i there yet, can i stop now' way.
^Now that is an attitude I find inspiring. A big middle finger to the situation and doing it anyway.0 -
just saw this while walking past my tv to make lunch. meh good for her. she worked for it she deserves a body like that0
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"Kang, of Sacramento, California, is a former pageant queen and fitness competitor who founded the nonprofit Fitness Without Borders in 2007. She's also a recovering bulimic."
No, she is not your average "stay-at-home" mom. She already had a serious fitness background prior to having kids.
"Kang says she works out five to six days a week, about an hour at a time, doing a half-hour of strength training and a half-hour of cardio — running, the stair climber, or a spin or Zumba class"
She did not achieve that physique by only doing an hour at a time. That is maintenance for her. She achieved this body prior to children while preparing for pageants and fitness competitions. This alone makes it more likely for her to continue having this body after having children.
I don't think this is controversial, but I don't agree that this is achievable for all women. People are ignoring the facts I posted above which came directly from an interview done with her.
An hour a day 5-6 days a week is more time than is necessary to achieve that physique.
Continue to ignore the fact that she trained for fitness competitions and pageants prior to having children. I'm sure that was for more than an hour a day.
Once again, that is not the life of most women.
Who cares what she did before?
You could look like her with an investment of an hour a day 5 times a week.
Sounds like you have your excuses all lined up though.
As a friend pointed out to me earlier: the difference in mindset between successful people like the woman in the OP and people like ejean is what this conversation really highlights.
Like one of my favorite quotes, "Whether you think you can or cannot, you are right."0 -
Didn't you read the memo in 1950! Mom's are not supposed to be even REMOTELY sexy!
Anyway, her facebook page has a great post on her "Apology" which is very tongue planted firmly in cheek, I would post a link but all of you MFP'ers are pretty internet savy
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Is it reasonable to expect EVERYONE to look like a fitness model?
I don't think that's what she's saying at all.
For example... My ex is very overweight. He has high blood pressure, his cholesterol is bad and has other issues. He has a gym membership. He claims to be "too busy" to go to the gym. He's not. It's mind over matter which I think is her point. If he wanted to, he could find the time and work out and eventually get off of some of his medications. But, he has that mental block. He truly doesn't want to work out.
I told my ex, I have two jobs, a son to take care of, going to his football games, taking care of two dogs, a house, church & community events, and going out w/friends once in a while. I STILL made time to work out and lose 114 pounds. He can't tell me that I had all the time in the world because I did NOT. It's all a mental game and my ex is a mental case - (threw that one in for free! hahaha)
Again, her point isn't to have everyone look like a fitness model, but to look at their own individual fitness goals and to work towards them.0 -
A mother of three little boys under the age of four does not have free time. She has obviously had to make the time to take care of herself. I applaud her and wish I had made my health a priority when I was having babies!0
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the mentality behind the people complaining about that pictures is a big reason why we are a nation of fatties.0
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bc she's asian.0
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Now that's inspiring!"Kang, of Sacramento, California, is a former pageant queen and fitness competitor who founded the nonprofit Fitness Without Borders in 2007. She's also a recovering bulimic."
No, she is not your average "stay-at-home" mom. She already had a serious fitness background prior to having kids.
"Kang says she works out five to six days a week, about an hour at a time, doing a half-hour of strength training and a half-hour of cardio — running, the stair climber, or a spin or Zumba class"
She did not achieve that physique by only doing an hour at a time. That is maintenance for her. She achieved this body prior to children while preparing for pageants and fitness competitions. This alone makes it more likely for her to continue having this body after having children.
I don't think this is controversial, but I don't agree that this is achievable for all women. People are ignoring the facts I posted above which came directly from an interview done with her.
An hour a day 5-6 days a week is more time than is necessary to achieve that physique.
Continue to ignore the fact that she trained for fitness competitions and pageants prior to having children. I'm sure that was for more than an hour a day.
Once again, that is not the life of most women.
unfortunately, the life of most women SHOULD include healthy eating and consistent physical activity and the fact that is usually doesnt is a sad reality we are fighting against.
I work 11 and 12 hour days all the time, plus an almost 2 hour commute, plus i lost a hundred pounds and have tons of physical setbacks that i have to work against or around, plus a booming social life and tons of personal projects. I make the effort to workout regularly because I care about my health and i care about it more than just in a 'am i there yet, can i stop now' way.
Just don't say, "What's your excuse?" because that's body shaming.0 -
the mentality behind the people complaining about that pictures is a big reason why we are a nation of fatties.
I think I'm in love with you.0 -
It's implying that everyone should look like her. The first issue is that not everyone wants to look like her. The second is that not every body type can look like that. The third is that there are people with actual physical issues that make looking like that a hell of a lot harder than it is for other people. Not everyone has the time time or money to devote to getting that body after 3 babies in 3 years.
Also, let's not forget that the majority of pics on out there are photoshopped. I doubt she actually looks quite like that. Not a single stretch mark? That is every woman's dream.
It's shaming to women who don't look like her which isn't motivational to a lot of women. It's actually counter productive to many who know they can't attain perfect bodies or beauty. They look at the digitally enhanced images and ask themselves "why bother?".0 -
It's crazy to me that people actually have the audacity to insinuate that this woman is a bad mother for taking time for herself to work on her health and fitness.
The only thing I taught my daughter when I was fat and lazy was how to buy *kitten* groceries, how stuff my face full of *kitten* food, how to sit on my *kitten* and watch tv, how to pile on the pounds, and how to make excuses. But hey, I wasn't spending time working out or preparing food or researching fitness and nutrition, so I must have been a good mom....right??? Not to mention the fact that I was too fat and lazy to get off my *kitten* and take her to the park....or for a walk.....or a bike ride. Yup! Great mom huh?!!!
I will tell you that the lessons that my daughter has learned since I made the decisions to change OUR lives have been immeasurable. The fact that she comments, with pride in her eyes, that she can now "wrap her arms all the way around me" is priceless. The fact that she can tell me what foods are nutritious and why she should be eating them is priceless. The fact that she understands why it's important to be active is priceless.
It's time to look at what is truly important here. That woman didn't put any thoughts in anybody's head that weren't there already. Sometimes it's hardest to look within.
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Just don't say, "What's your excuse?" because that's body shaming.
BUT SHE DIDN'T EVEN MENTION HER OR ANYONE'S BODY!!!
Yes - that's all in caps. Once again, people inferred something that wasn't actually said, FFS.0 -
So, some fit mom with three kids posted a picture and the words "What's your excuse?" to inspire people. And for whatever reason, there's been heap loads of hate regarding the image. Some have even gone so far as calling her a bully or self-righteous. Here's the image and a link to the article:
http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/hot-mom-defends-herself-against-facebook-haters-192149769.html
Anyways, I feel sorry for the haters.
Your thoughts?
some people have health issuesd that cause them to be overweight. Whats the background of the lady in the pic? single mom? work from home? nanny? sitters? husband? personal trainer? always been fit and in good health i think you can't call people haters b/c she puts a pic up with her story. some are offended. I have no excuse. I love to eat point blank. AS a single mom, full-time student with a full-time job my stress is high, my time is limited and I love to eat. so not all situations are the same. im happy she's able to look that great with 3 kids so hey!0 -
No it doesn't.It's implying that everyone should look like her.0 -
It's implying that everyone should look like her. The first issue is that not everyone wants to look like her. The second is that not every body type can look like that. The third is that there are people with actual physical issues that make looking like that a hell of a lot harder than it is for other people. Not everyone has the time time or money to devote to getting that body after 3 babies in 3 years.
Also, let's not forget that the majority of pics on out there are photoshopped. I doubt she actually looks quite like that. Not a single stretch mark? That is every woman's dream.
It's shaming to women who don't look like her which isn't motivational to a lot of women. It's actually counter productive to many who know they can't attain perfect bodies or beauty. They look at the digitally enhanced images and ask themselves "why bother?".
agreed! amen!0
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