Calories I don't count

Heck I don't count food that you should count sometimes, ie pizza, hamburgers, beer, scotch because I already know I'll be over. Those are treat days. Sometimes I can't find what I am looking up so I guess. Personally, I don't think a 10 calorie items it what is going to break you. I think you look at quality, portions, and not overdoing the bad items.

Heck I don't count food that you should count sometimes, ie pizza, hamburgers, beer, scotch because I already know I'll be over. Those are treat days. Sometimes I can't find what I am looking up so I guess. Personally, I don't think a 10 calorie items it what is going to break you. I think you look at quality, portions, and not overdoing the bad items.

I definitely log my binges. I know I'll be over, but knowing that I have to log it sometimes will help me choose whether I "really" want it or not. Also, I go through every couple of months and check for patterns: ie, did I end up binging because I made poor breakfast choices consistently? Was I dehydrated, etc. etc. etc? Also, I'm trying to really adhere to the "You ate it, you OWN it." mentality.

Am I the only one who does this? Do all of y'all log everything?

I log everything I just don't log everything every day. I used to log obsessively until I did a little research and found out that the margin of error on food labels is pretty significant anyway. I count coffee some days and some days I don't.

I don't like things like diet coke etc

I don't like things like diet coke etc

I don't like weasels or things that are made of paper.

Let's be friends!

I generally don't count coffee with milk calories because I also don't log walking to the loo as a cardio exercise:) I reakon they will cancel each other out. But if you've got that level of dedication praise to you.

I don't like things like diet coke etc

I don't like weasels or things that are made of paper.

Let's be friends!

I don't like balloons or those little sweet and sour sauce packets that come with Chinese food.

Hey, this game is fun!

Unless you can somehow convince your body not to process the calories you are leaving out, I would count them all.

I suggest that you take all your daily supplements and save them in the system as a new "Meal" - that way you only have to click once (in the quick tool i believe) to add them all for the day

I don't count supplements or vitamins , I don't keep track or log water, I don't log or count spices either, unless they are part of a particular recipe (I don't use salt in my food), and I don't count chewing gum.

I do log my black coffee or green tea (with splenda), and all fruits and vegetables, with the exception of the leaf of lettuce in a sandwich.

I just had a treat bag size of Maltesers and 3 gin & tonics (slimline) and I ain't counting them - its Friday night!!!! :bigsmile:

Exactly what are you taking to detox yourself from lead? I've never heard of this and unless it's doctor prescribed I would be highly wary.

If you are taking 40 pills at 10 calories each that is 400 calories. That is a huge difference and you need to track it. Now most likely many of these pills don't have calories (only my fish oil does that I take).

I take Milk Thistle it helps the liver. But I wear an anti-toxin mask when I solder but every time I touch lead some can be absorbed through my skin. The last time my blood was tested I was fine. There is getting to be quite a lot of research done on Milk Thistle and I would recommend anyone interested in trying it to check out the research first.

Most of my supplements don't have 10 cals just a couple do.

POSSIBLY EFFECTIVE
Allergic rhinitis. In one clinical trial, taking milk thistle extract 140 mg three times a day plus cetirizine (Zyrtec) 10 my daily for 1 month significantly decreased the severity of allergy symptoms compared to placebo plus cetirizine (18105).
Diabetes. Taking the milk thistle constituent silymarin 200 mg three times daily for 4 months, in combination with conventional treatment, appears to significantly decrease fasting blood glucose, hemoglobin A1c (HbA1c), total cholesterol, low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol, and triglycerides compared to placebo in patients with type 2 diabetes (15102). Other preliminary evidence suggests that silymarin 200 mg three times daily reduces insulin resistance in people with coexisting diabetes and alcoholic cirrhosis (2617).
Dyspepsia. A specific combination product containing milk thistle (Iberogast, Medical Futures, Inc) seems to improve symptoms of dyspepsia. The combination includes milk thistle plus peppermint leaf, German chamomile, caraway, licorice, clown's mustard plant, celandine, angelica, and lemon balm (7049,12724). A meta-analysis of studies using this combination product suggests that taking 1 mL orally three times daily over a period of 4 weeks significantly reduces severity of acid reflux, epigastric pain, cramping, nausea, and vomiting compared to placebo (13089).

INSUFFICIENT RELIABLE EVIDENCE to RATE
Alcohol-related liver disease. Preliminary clinical research suggests that milk thistle taken orally might be beneficial for decreasing mortality and improving liver function tests in patients with alcoholic liver disease (2613,2616,2618,7321,7322,7355,13150); however, analyses of high quality milk thistle studies suggests that milk thistle does not significantly affect mortality or liver function tests (LFTs) but may reduce aspartate aminotransferase levels in comparison to placebo in patients with alcohol-related liver disease (13150,17228).
Amanita mushroom poisoning. Administering silibinin, a constituent of milk thistle, intravenously (IV) may lessen liver damage due to Amanita phalloides mushroom (death cap) poisoning (2615). Silibinin is not readily available in the US.
Hepatitis B or Hepatitis C. Preliminary clinical research suggests a specific oral preparation of silibinin, an active constituent extracted from milk thistle, complexed with phosphatidylcholine (Silipide), might improve liver function tests (LFTs) in patients with chronic active hepatitis. Silibinin is complexed with phosphatidylcholine to theoretically improve the bioavailability of silibinin (7356). In another study, using a specific silymarin product (Legalon 140) hepatitis C patients reported feeling better, but objective measures of quality-of-life and liver function tests (LFTs) were not improved after a year of treatment (13170). Also, another clinical study showed that the chronic use of silymarin for approximately 35 months reduced the progression of liver disease from fibrosis to cirrhosis, but did not have any effect on clinical outcomes including mortality due to liver disease (17713).
Two analyses of milk thistle and milk thistle-constituent studies suggest that overall these products do not significantly improve mortality or decrease LFTs in patients with hepatitis B or C (13150,17228).
Toxin-induced liver damage. Some research suggests milk thistle may limit liver damage after exposure to industrial toxicants such as toluene and xylene (2614).
Most clinical studies of milk thistle's effectiveness have used a specific extract standardized to 70% to 80% silymarin (Legalon). In the US, this formulation is found in the brand name product Thisilyn (Nature's Way).
More evidence is needed to rate milk thistle for these uses.

It is also cautioned in use while taking Estrogens, Statins, Tamoxifen (Nolvadex), and Cytochrome P450 2C9 substrates & Cytchrom P450 3A4 substrates.

However with all of this comes the note that more research is still needed and being conducted.

40 pills every morning sounds a bit scary...

It's not like pharmaceuticals it more like food, my diet is deficient in certain things so I supplement. It's 3 small swallows of pills every morning with water. I am 55 and pretty active, my husband is 65 and drives a concrete truck which is physically demanding work and he works between 65 and 70 hours a week and he takes as many supplements as I do. I have never seen him sick at all. We also are on zero medicines no prescriptions nothing like that.

...and ^this is why you should log them...at least the one's w/ calories.

don't know what sort of Omega3 / fish oil supplement some of you are taking, but mine clocks in at 180cals a day. I don't take it every day, but when I do it gets logged.

with regards to the pills you need to look into what it does to your liver and kidneys to take 30-40 a day, because in all fairness they are already less tested then mainstream pharmaceuticals and taking them together may cause other reactions. Also very little research has been done with regards to the long term side effects. Also some may cancel each other out (one might prevent the absorption of another), because they are not meant to be taken together.

I have no doubt that some of the supplements may improve your health but all 40 of them???? really??? By all means continue with the milk thistle if you feel it helps, and some fish oil, and a good multivitamin and if you really want to a probiotic and no, I am not saying that there is really any evidence that you need those, but that is still only 4.
http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed

I find these sort of posts always funny, because at the same time there are countless posts of 'I am under my calories every day and I don't lose weight .... help'. The more accurate you are, the more control you have :-)