stop overdoing cardio and hit the damn weights!!!

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  • WhataBroad
    WhataBroad Posts: 1,091 Member
    I want to feel strong and look good naked, not feel weak and look good in clothes, buts thats just my goal :)

    I spend more time dressed than undressed. But maybe that's just me...

    I plan to spend a lot more time in a lot less clothes in my future!! Right now, I look great in clothes but when they come off, there is still way too many wobbly bits. That's what this poster is referring to.
  • bernied262
    bernied262 Posts: 882 Member
    I want to feel strong and look good naked, not feel weak and look good in clothes, buts thats just my goal :)

    I spend more time dressed than undressed. But maybe that's just me...

    I plan to spend a lot more time in a lot less clothes in my future!! Right now, I look great in clothes but when they come off, there is still way too many wobbly bits. That's what this poster is referring to.
    wow, awesome progress!!! Keep up the great work, you look fab!
  • I have a dislocated disc (S2) and if I do NOT lift, I can hardly walk. I cannot do cardio, unless it is biking, swimming or walking to keep the disc in place, only with good shoes, no jumps. With weightlifting I keep my muscles strong so my disc stays in place. I do squats everyday as warm-up, I do all my core exercises on the smith-machine to make sure to stay in balance.
    Please try to find a good personal trainer who knows about spinal problems so you can perform the correct daily exercises to prevent back-pain or even in juries.
  • kwantlen2051
    kwantlen2051 Posts: 455 Member
    I injured my shoulder lifting weights 3 months ago and now doing pilates and cardio. My back and shoulder feeling much better and my muscles getting toned as well. People should do what works for them. One size does not fit all.
  • TigerBite
    TigerBite Posts: 611 Member
    Umm, no. I will not hit the weights. And not because I think it'll make me bulky.
    1. I don't want to.
    2. I reeeaallly enjoy walking and jogging.
    3. I have no intentions of paying for a full gym membership to have access to weights.
    4. I'm still working on losing fat, toning is for when I'm closer to my goal. I can barely do many squats or lunges right now.

    I don't get why so many people think everyone should lift. People are going to do what they enjoy.


    You don't have to "lift" per say, just do SOME sort of strength training in addition to your cardio, why wait to "tone" (as you call it), when you can do so as you are losing? Plus, it will help minimize the loss of LBM that eating at a deficit causes, making maintenance easier (since you haven't lowered your metabolism drastically) ... :)
  • TigerBite
    TigerBite Posts: 611 Member
    Also, I think the title of this thread should be "stop overdoing cardio and do some strength training!!!" not "stop overdoing cardio and hit the damn weights!!!" ... strength training and muscle building can be done in a myriad of different ways, not just traditional weights ... :) ... Pilates Reformer FTW! ... Though, I do like to lift heavy things(It makes my tiny @ss feel RAWR!), so I do switch it up with weights ...
  • gypsycaravan
    gypsycaravan Posts: 12 Member
    the most lifting i do is with 5 pound weights, but combining some strength/lifting with those and cardio has given me much better results than just doing cardio alone. i probably wouldn't want to go any heavier than 7 or 8 pounds though.
  • leachjg
    leachjg Posts: 63 Member
    Cross training is very important to cardio. I'm not talking about just lifting, but strengthening your core. I do three days of circuit training which is weights and cardio at the same or alternating and three days of running. I couldn't be the runner I am without the muscle I have built by weights. The heaviest weight I use is 8lbs. so we are not talking a lot of weight. I've had LOTS of people compliment me that I look good not just because of the weight loss (52lbs to date), but because they can see my muscles/see that I am toned. If our goal is healthy then we need to be well rounded or be working towards it. Not just focus on one thing at a time. I feel like that is going through college taking just all electives one year and the next all math courses, etc. you have to have some of all aspects to work towards your goal.
  • Manda_1986
    Manda_1986 Posts: 42 Member
    Personally I don't like weight training. It isn't that I don't enjoy it, I have done it in the past and it resulted in me gaining a substantial amount of muscle. For a woman I have a naturally muscular body. I didn't look huge and bulky by any means but I did look masculine from weight training. Instead of weight training now I use my own body weight to tone and strengthen. I get a much nicer lean toned body that way without the extra muscle mass.
    Some ladies look great from using weights, some do not. On the other end of the spectrum it annoys me seeing men that just do weights and no cardio. They end up gigantic muscle freaks with no flexibility. A good balance of strength and cardio is the key to a healthy body.

    1) It seems like you do not have a basic understanding of how one gains muscle mass. It is not from lifting weights alone.

    2) Ditto what Sara said- Freaks? Wut? :huh: Body-shaming is not okay, even when you're referring to people who are extremely built.

    1) I do understand that it also is due to what you consume. I said that I have natural muscle mass and doing weights makes that more obvious. ie I look really muscular and I would rather not.

    2) Lol I didn't say everyone who has muscle are freaks. I was simply trying to say there is that some people who purely do weights and no cardio or flexibility training which can also not be good for you. I wasn't aiming at offending anyone or body-shaming.

    I am only saying how my body works. This whole topic is about people over doing cardio. You can over do weights too. Like I said above though, I like strength training. I just don't personally think you need to involve weights. I have nothing against people that do.
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    Some ladies look great from using weights, some do not. On the other end of the spectrum it annoys me seeing men that just do weights and no cardio. They end up gigantic muscle freaks with no flexibility. A good balance of strength and cardio is the key to a healthy body.

    Heehee.

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    I keep trying but putting on muscle is hard.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    the most lifting i do is with 5 pound weights, but combining some strength/lifting with those and cardio has given me much better results than just doing cardio alone. i probably wouldn't want to go any heavier than 7 or 8 pounds though.
    Really? A gallon of milk weighs 8 pounds. Guarantee your backpack, briefcase, or purse (whichever you carry on a regular basis) weighs at least 7 or 8 pounds. Heck, my daughter is in kindergarten, her backpack weighs 6 pounds when it's loaded up in the morning. What exactly do you think a 5 pound weight is going to do for you in the long term, when your daily life has you constantly lifting and moving heavier objects on a consistent basis? A ream of paper alone weighs 5 pounds.
  • mank32
    mank32 Posts: 1,323 Member
    I WILL RUN AND/OR LONGBOARD AT LEAST 1 MI/DAY AND YOU WON'T STOP ME.

    ok i lied: what i really mean is i will run and/or longboard MOST days, not everyday. i need more rest in my routine. after a whole summer of permasore feet and legs i know this much.

    and i WILL start lifting. after a whole summer of running and longboarding as much as mankly possible, i'm not getting any bigger muscles. and i want bigger muscles. espesh in my arms (which don't get much work from running/longboarding).

    and i'm not afraid of getting big. i'm 5'5" and 120 lbs on a good day--and i'm female--how big could i possibly get? guess i'll find out...

    so....i agree with OP?
  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    the most lifting i do is with 5 pound weights, but combining some strength/lifting with those and cardio has given me much better results than just doing cardio alone. i probably wouldn't want to go any heavier than 7 or 8 pounds though.
    why on earth not?
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    I lift weights and it doesn't make me bulky. I'm very pleased with the results and plan to continue lifting forever.

    Also lifting weights does not decrease flexibility, it actually helps increase it because strong muscles are flexible.

    I also dance and do yoga. And sometimes kickbox.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    I lift weights and it doesn't make me bulky. I'm very pleased with the results and plan to continue lifting forever.

    Also lifting weights does not decrease flexibility, it actually helps increase it because strong muscles are flexible.

    I also dance and do yoga. And sometimes kickbox.
    *Lifting weights with a proper full range of motion increases flexibility. Also, balanced work. Just training one side (biceps without triceps as a common example) or using partial reps to stroke the old ego will cause muscle imbalances and flexibility issues.
  • As far as the bulky comments, I think it just depends. Some women, especially those with higher testosterone, put on bulky muscles more than others. Also, some types of cardio can also cause bulk, just usually more in the legs. I used to have what was known as dancer calves from Irish dancing, which meant I had bulk calf muscles.
  • xoTalim
    xoTalim Posts: 212 Member
    I love lifting weights, almost more than I love doing cardio. I've only just started going to the gym and doing it regularly. But I love it. It's really relaxing and fun. I'm also really excited for when I start to see results. I'm sick of flabby arms!
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    As far as the bulky comments, I think it just depends. Some women, especially those with higher testosterone, put on bulky muscles more than others. Also, some types of cardio can also cause bulk, just usually more in the legs. I used to have what was known as dancer calves from Irish dancing, which meant I had bulk calf muscles.
    Dancer's calves mean you have no fat on your calves, so the muscle definition shows through, it doesn't mean your calves are large. Unless a woman is taking testosterone supplements, she will not put on significant muscle without serious strength training and a calorie surplus. Men have 10 times the testosterone of women, and it's difficult for us to put on muscle mass.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    I lift weights and it doesn't make me bulky. I'm very pleased with the results and plan to continue lifting forever.

    Also lifting weights does not decrease flexibility, it actually helps increase it because strong muscles are flexible.

    I also dance and do yoga. And sometimes kickbox.
    *Lifting weights with a proper full range of motion increases flexibility. Also, balanced work. Just training one side (biceps without triceps as a common example) or using partial reps to stroke the old ego will cause muscle imbalances and flexibility issues.

    Yeah, good point. Thanks for sharing it.
  • My apologies, I did not necessarily mean that I had more muscle on my calves, but it does make them appear more bulky, which is what I believed the issue to be. As far as testosterone, it is merely what I was told by doctors. I do not know if it is different for women than men, but that was just the info I was given. Regardless, the important thing is too be healthy and feel good in your own body. Everyone has different ideas on what they wish to look like and people do show muscle differently, regardless of the cause.
  • Thank you!!!!!
  • To be fair, the OP said stop OVERdoing cardio, not stop altogether. And he was clearly referring to women who think running themselves ragged is the best way to lose fat.

    Cardio is fine if that's what you enjoy, and cardio is fine for creating a bigger calorie deficit when kept to an appropriate level of intensity, duration, and frequency. But there is a positive correlation between women who claim they "just want to tone"/"don't want to bulk up" and women who create enormous daily calorie deficits. The effect of all that cardio and lack of food is losing a lot of lean mass, which is the opposite of what you want if your goal is to "tone."

    Yeah, you should do things you enjoy. And if you don't have goals other than personal enjoyment, then go right ahead and do those things to the exclusion of everything else. But if you do have a performance goal or a body composition goal (if you're trying to "tone," you're in this category, whether you realize it or not) or a strength goal, you are very likely going to have to do some things you will find unpleasant. I don't know how anyone makes it to adulthood with the mindset that you can achieve your goals by only doing things you like to do.

    Thank you!!!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    My apologies, I did not necessarily mean that I had more muscle on my calves, but it does make them appear more bulky, which is what I believed the issue to be. As far as testosterone, it is merely what I was told by doctors. I do not know if it is different for women than men, but that was just the info I was given. Regardless, the important thing is too be healthy and feel good in your own body. Everyone has different ideas on what they wish to look like and people do show muscle differently, regardless of the cause.

    Not arguing with the comment re different preferences re aesthetics as I absolutely agree with it, however women have about 1/16th the testosterone than men. It would take an abnormally higher test level than usual in a woman to put on enough muscle to be 'bulky'.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Personally I don't like weight training. It isn't that I don't enjoy it, I have done it in the past and it resulted in me gaining a substantial amount of muscle. For a woman I have a naturally muscular body. I didn't look huge and bulky by any means but I did look masculine from weight training. Instead of weight training now I use my own body weight to tone and strengthen. I get a much nicer lean toned body that way without the extra muscle mass.
    Some ladies look great from using weights, some do not. On the other end of the spectrum it annoys me seeing men that just do weights and no cardio. They end up gigantic muscle freaks with no flexibility. A good balance of strength and cardio is the key to a healthy body.


    1) It seems like you do not have a basic understanding of how one gains muscle mass. It is not from lifting weights alone.

    2) Ditto what Sara said- Freaks? Wut? :huh: Body-shaming is not okay, even when you're referring to people who are extremely built.

    1) I do understand that it also is due to what you consume. I said that I have natural muscle mass and doing weights makes that more obvious. ie I look really muscular and I would rather not.

    2) Lol I didn't say everyone who has muscle are freaks. I was simply trying to say there is that some people who purely do weights and no cardio or flexibility training which can also not be good for you. I wasn't aiming at offending anyone or body-shaming.

    I am only saying how my body works. This whole topic is about people over doing cardio. You can over do weights too. Like I said above though, I like strength training. I just don't personally think you need to involve weights. I have nothing against people that do.

    Maybe you should word your posts more carefully as the way you wrote it, you were body shaming.

    I only do weights also...I also know quite a few guys who do not do cardio. Some even have large muscles. Are we freaks?
  • MstngSammy
    MstngSammy Posts: 436 Member
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  • If you incorporate some sort of lifting you wil llose more body fat faster because you are turning that fat into muscle. Which kicks your metabolism into over drive. You dont need a gym membership to do it, Use your own resistance. Saqme effect. And not all gym memberships will leave you broke. Got any Planet Fitness gyms near you?
  • MstngSammy
    MstngSammy Posts: 436 Member
    Umm, no. I will not hit the weights. And not because I think it'll make me bulky.
    1. I don't want to.
    2. I reeeaallly enjoy walking and jogging.
    3. I have no intentions of paying for a full gym membership to have access to weights.
    4. I'm still working on losing fat, toning is for when I'm closer to my goal. I can barely do many squats or lunges right now.

    I don't get why so many people think everyone should lift. People are going to do what they enjoy.

    I don't feel that anyone has to hit the weights (reasons 1-3 make sense), but your fourth reason for not doing it is that you're going to to do it eventually..? So why not start now if you're going to be doing it anyway? And not being able to do squats or lunges is more motivation to work on them so you can actually do a few.


    I said I'm going to tone eventually. Not that I'm going to lift. I have no intentions of lifting. That would be a $62/month gym membership.
    I am starting to do body weight excerises, I only started last week. Which is why I can't do much yet. And I'll do the 30 day shred. Lifting isn't the only way to tone.

    If I'm not mistaken, 30 day shred incorporates weights. You have to lift those in order to use them. "lifting" weights isnt always about lifting heavy weight.

    And if you ever do decide to incorporate strength training into your regimen, you don't need a gym membership. You can get weights inexpensively just about everywhere. The light dumbbells (and heavy) are even sold at target and Walmart if you would like to buy as you go (its nice to have at least a couple of different weights) or if you want to get a more varied set...garage sales...thrift stores.. Craig's list.

    I'm really not trying to convert you at all. Just trying to let you know that there are other options besides the gym.
  • patrickfish7
    patrickfish7 Posts: 190 Member
    My biggest annoyance to this myth. Hormonal differences between men and women mean women do not bulk nearly as much as men. Fact.
  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,724 Member
    cardio has a purpose. so does lifting weights. i personally enjoy weights more.

    Also to the ladies making cracks about my look good naked goal. That is one of MY goals. It doesnt have to be yours. I feel I personally look fine in clothes, I want to look good out of clothes as well (naked... bathing suit...) and be confident in myself. I as well spend most of my time clothed but look good naked = looking even better in clothes.

    Well, it seemed you dished out your fair share with comments like "cardio is a waste in deficit" and "weak and looking good in clothes". Those are not compliments, but if you're clarifying that your were talking about yourself and your own results and not generalizing to others, then that makes sense
  • shauner03
    shauner03 Posts: 21 Member
    If you incorporate some sort of lifting you wil llose more body fat faster because you are turning that fat into muscle. Which kicks your metabolism into over drive. You dont need a gym membership to do it, Use your own resistance. Saqme effect. And not all gym memberships will leave you broke. Got any Planet Fitness gyms near you?

    Fat does not magically turn into muscle... lol