Clean Eating Bashing?
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Why can't we all just be friends???!!!??? :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
Seriously, if you want to "eat clean" then by all means, have at it. If it's a sustainable approach for you, kudos. If you don't want to eat clean and are still able to/trying to get healthy, have at it. Kudos!!! You wanna support your local farmers? Awesome!!! You wanna support rich corporate companies? Awesome!!! Who cares?!?!!??!?! Everyone just get over it. Eat however is best for you!!! Stop acting like the way you(general) eat is the only way to eat if you want to be healthy and lose weight/sustain your weight.
ABSOFRIGGINLUTELY!!! :drinker:0 -
I am confused. Do you eat chili dogs because they're on the list of foods you consider "clean" (you might make them in such a way that they qualify by the definition you understand), or is this "eating clean" like a person who says he's a vegan, around mouthfuls of a bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich? Or, do you not eat clean by the definition you understand, but simply felt you wanted to chime in to support those who do?I am really glad you posted this so I dont have to haha. I totally agree. Before i started eating "clean" (the best that i can at least) i had so many stomach problems, ate fast food a lot, never went to the farmers market or bought fresh produce, everything was always frozen (not that theres anything wrong with that, but i do LOVE the farmers market, and i am actually spending LESS money than I was before) I am definitately a much happier person than I was at the beginning of the year. I try not to judge what other people eat and it really bothers me that people put down cleaning eating so much.
I feel the same way. Eating "cleaner" makes me feel better. It's not for everyone. I do eat "nonclean" foods as well occasionally. Had chili dogs this weekend.
Do I think it's necessary for weight loss. No.0 -
I take a shower every day. Now I eat clean. :bigsmile:0
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If you're not washing your foods before you cook, then you eat dirty.
"Clean Eating" is BS. You have a liver and kidneys which "clean your system. The same goes for "Detoxing" your body. Bunch of crap. While they "work" they do more harm. Do your research.
If you want to "eat clean" then eat foods without the processed crap. Easy peasy.0 -
I feel left out, we don't have Twinkies here! ;-(0
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I eat mostly whole foods because it means I can eat more food and feel full longer. I don't know if I would consider my diet "clean", because I feel like the definition of clean eating is ever changing... organic, paleo/primal, blah, blah, etc, etc.
For the sake of this post I'm going to refer to those who eat processed food and fast food "dirty" eaters" -- not because I feel that they are dirty, so don't jump down my throat.
The reason the "dirty" eaters and the "clean" eaters have so much animosity towards one another is because of the limitless condescension both sides display. The "my way is the only way" attitude is elementary and ridiculous.
I've seen many "dirty" eaters claiming that eating fried/processed/fast food that is calorically equivalent to whole foods is no different for your body and that there is no real health benefits to eating whole foods. Come on now... really? I mean, seriously?
What works best, is what works best FOR YOU. If you are able to stick to your calorie allotment and eat what you like, then YAY! Whatever you are able to maintain in the long run is always best.
I couldn't care less about how you or anyone else eats. I care about how I eat and how my son eats. I like eating what I consider healthy foods because it makes me feel good and I feel like I am teaching my son how to have a healthy relationship with food.
OP, I thought your post was well written and has inspired me to look into local farmers markets.0 -
I am confused. Do you eat chili dogs because they're on the list of foods you consider "clean" (you might make them in such a way that they qualify by the definition you understand), or is this "eating clean" like a person who says he's a vegan, around mouthfuls of a bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich? Or, do you not eat clean by the definition you understand, but simply felt you wanted to chime in to support those who do?I am really glad you posted this so I dont have to haha. I totally agree. Before i started eating "clean" (the best that i can at least) i had so many stomach problems, ate fast food a lot, never went to the farmers market or bought fresh produce, everything was always frozen (not that theres anything wrong with that, but i do LOVE the farmers market, and i am actually spending LESS money than I was before) I am definitately a much happier person than I was at the beginning of the year. I try not to judge what other people eat and it really bothers me that people put down cleaning eating so much.
I feel the same way. Eating "cleaner" makes me feel better. It's not for everyone. I do eat "nonclean" foods as well occasionally. Had chili dogs this weekend.
Do I think it's necessary for weight loss. No.
I do believe I said that I don't eat clean all the time. I just stated that I try to and I feel better when I do. The chili dogs were fun but not for all the time.
And eating clean means you eat things as close to their natural state as possible. I'm not always able to do that. But I do when I can. Why so snarky? Can I not answer the question of the OP? This is what works for me and has nothing to do with fitness.
I am not forcing my ideas on anyone or trying to change anyone.0 -
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No it doesn't. And that's why people rip on clean eating.I agree! This is myFITNESSpal, not myWEIGHTLOSSpal. Eating clean contributes to fitness in more ways than eating twinkies at a deficit does.0 -
If you're not washing your foods before you cook, then you eat dirty.
"Clean Eating" is BS. You have a liver and kidneys which "clean your system. The same goes for "Detoxing" your body. Bunch of crap. While they "work" they do more harm. Do your research.
If you want to "eat clean" then eat foods without the processed crap. Easy peasy.
That is what I mean by clean....non processed. I don't get where ppl are talking about cleanses and stuff. Lol. Is this the enema thread? Whoops my bad lol0 -
Define clean...I mean I eat about 4-6 servings of veg per day...a couple servings of fruit...lots of lean protein and healthy fats and cook primarily from scratch whole ingredients...but *gasp*
I eat a particular marinara sauce that I don't make homemade for convenience and a quick pasta dish...I drink low sodium, but highly processed v8 juice..i eat Coach's Oats rather than spending hours preparing steel cut...sometimes I have one of those salmon burgers that are in the freezer section at Costco when I'm short on time. Sometimes I make my own beans from scratch but other times I just eat canned beans. I don't make my own yogurt...I buy the processed stuff that comes in a little tub...same for all of my dairy...I mean, I don't own dairy cows or goats.
On top of all of that dirty *kitten* **** I like to have ice cream for desert on occasion...maybe some pie...I really like jelly beans too...and gummy bears...all frackin' filthy *kitten* ****.
So...again...how do we define "clean" vs "dirty?" Are my Coach's Oats filthy dirty food? Let's here it OP, where does one draw the line...I mean obviously it's not good enough to eat a well rounded balanced diet rich in nutrient dense foods...you're a filthy animal if you pop a jelly bean.0 -
If you're not washing your foods before you cook, then you eat dirty.
"Clean Eating" is BS. You have a liver and kidneys which "clean your system. The same goes for "Detoxing" your body. Bunch of crap. While they "work" they do more harm. Do your research.
If you want to "eat clean" then eat foods without the processed crap. Easy peasy.
That is what I mean by clean....non processed. I don't get where ppl are talking about cleanses and stuff. Lol. Is this the enema thread? Whoops my bad lol
where do you draw the line at "processed"...how exactly are the black beans in a can so much filthier than if I spent all day making my own black beans? When it comes down to it, everything has some, at least, minimal processing just to get it to your store.0 -
I have tried clean eating (Ashy Bines), and nutritionally speaking eating whole foods which have not been processed or pumped with other s*** is far more beneficial for you, but you can do this just as easily while on MFP. Reason being that when you eat, a signal is sent to your brain to say that your feeding the body. If you eat a highly processed food with very low "real" nutritional value, this signal is still sent to the brain... your body will start working to pull nutrients from and digest the food...but wait there is very little nutritional value in this food and it will take what it can, generally FAT. The body then sends another signal to the brain to say that there was very little nutrition in that food and the brain tells your stomach that you are hungry again.
When you get the rumbly belly or the hunger pans, this is your body saying your hungry...FOR NUTRITION - not for empty calories.
If you intake empty calories or highly processed foods, your likely to feel hungry more often than not because your body is craving nutrition.
Hope this all make sense
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Don't take the "clean eating bashing" personally.
It's primarily the ones who've had difficulties with their weight in the past. They've decided (or are unable) to not give up foods high in fat and sugar (i.e. "junk food"), and due to whatever limited success they've had, believe there is something wrong with those who desire to cut such things out of their diet.
They'll tell you how healthy they are, and talk about their great "blood work."
They'll also ask you to provide "peer reviewed studies" to support your claims that the food you eat can affect your long-term health, while attributing their views to universal truths.
Wow just wow
Where is the pop corn.
ETA: Clean eating means deprivation...deprivation leads to binging on whatever it is you "can't" have...which leads to failure...0 -
All of my questions were sincere; merely since the time I posted it I've seen more than one definition of what qualifies as "clean eating" in this very thread, so it appears that either your definition is merely 'your idea,' or you have a citation (yet to be provided) for your definition being strictly correct that will help clarify the issue for others who would like to understand the topic better.
I am confused. Do you eat chili dogs because they're on the list of foods you consider "clean" (you might make them in such a way that they qualify by the definition you understand), or is this "eating clean" like a person who says he's a vegan, around mouthfuls of a bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich? Or, do you not eat clean by the definition you understand, but simply felt you wanted to chime in to support those who do?I am really glad you posted this so I dont have to haha. I totally agree. Before i started eating "clean" (the best that i can at least) i had so many stomach problems, ate fast food a lot, never went to the farmers market or bought fresh produce, everything was always frozen (not that theres anything wrong with that, but i do LOVE the farmers market, and i am actually spending LESS money than I was before) I am definitately a much happier person than I was at the beginning of the year. I try not to judge what other people eat and it really bothers me that people put down cleaning eating so much.
I feel the same way. Eating "cleaner" makes me feel better. It's not for everyone. I do eat "nonclean" foods as well occasionally. Had chili dogs this weekend.
Do I think it's necessary for weight loss. No.
I do believe I said that I don't eat clean all the time. I just stated that I try to and I feel better when I do. The chili dogs were fun but not for all the time.
And eating clean means you eat things as close to their natural state as possible. I'm not always able to do that. But I do when I can. Why so snarky? Can I not answer the question of the OP? This is what works for me and has nothing to do with fitness.
I am not forcing my ideas on anyone or trying to change anyone.
If you're not trying to force ideas on anyone or change anyone, such as defining 'clean eating' without putting any 'in my opinion' qualifiers on the definition, why are you presenting your ideas on this particular topic, in this particular forum?0 -
I just want someone to clearly define what eating clean means?
As far as I see it that means the absence of pathogenic microbes and/or feces.
All food is technically processed be it mechanical or chemical otherwise we'd be kind of not living, so I'm just unclear what do people mean.0 -
CLEAN EATING
There is no direct definition for "clean eating". Specifically, clean eating is NOT a diet - it is a lifestyle choice. Clean eating is not a new concept, as a matter of fact clean eating has been around for quite some time. Those involved with health, fitness or nutrition from competitors to personal trainers and health conscious individuals have been practicing "clean eating" for years.
One with many benefits that include:
Fat Loss
Weight Loss
Increased Energy
Clearer Skin
Shinier Hair
Better Sleep
Increased mental well -being
When someone makes the choice to eat "clean" they are choosing to eliminate all processed foods and extra additives from their diet. Basically, you are choosing to eat whole, unrefined foods.
The basics of eating clean include - eating lots of fruits and vegetables. These are straight from nature - the idea is to stay away from anything that may have been altered in any way.
Include meats, however; "whole" meats that you have chosen straight from the butcher or prepared yourself. You would be very surprised to find out what is actually in ground turkey.
Enjoy whole grains - these are grains that are still complete and haven't been broken down in any form. Examples include: brown rice, whole wheat and other whole grains. You will have to get used to reading over food labels. Just because a product says its "whole grain" does not mean it is. It also does not mean they have not added a bunch of other ingredients as well.
Eat fewer ingredients - try not to purchase items with more than 4-6 ingredients in the ingredient list. Also, be sure you recognize every ingredient. If you can't pronounce it, you probably shouldn't put it in your body.
Simple Guidelines for Success:
Eating small frequent meals 5-6 times per day to level blood sugar and prevent hunger
Include lean protein, complex carbohydrates and heart healthy fats in each meal choice
Avoid ALL processed and/or refined foods (sugar, baked goods, candies, white flour, white rice, etc)
Avoid saturated and trans fats
Avoid sodas, high calorie juices and other drinks that give your body no nutritional value and lots of unnecessary (unwanted) calories
Avoid high calorie, non nutritious foods (i.e. junk food)
Drink at least 8 cups of water per day0 -
I just want someone to clearly define what eating clean means?
As far as I see it that means the absence of pathogenic microbes and/or feces.
All food is technically processed be it mechanical or chemical otherwise we'd be kind of not living, so I'm just unclear what do people mean.
Chicken breast that is organic or not full of antibiotics -- clean
Chicken nugget -- not
There is no exact definition of clean eating... the concept is constantly evolving. From whole foods, to organic foods, to paleo/primal. Blah, blah, blah.
Who really knows? :yawn:0 -
I see some people on here that survive exclusively on fast food and I really don't want to pay for your Obamacare for you.
Come on seriously OP did you type that....for shame.0 -
CLEAN EATING
There is no direct definition for "clean eating". Specifically, clean eating is NOT a diet - it is a lifestyle choice. Clean eating is not a new concept, as a matter of fact clean eating has been around for quite some time. Those involved with health, fitness or nutrition from competitors to personal trainers and health conscious individuals have been practicing "clean eating" for years.
One with many benefits that include:
Fat Loss
Weight Loss
Increased Energy
Clearer Skin
Shinier Hair
Better Sleep
Increased mental well -being
When someone makes the choice to eat "clean" they are choosing to eliminate all processed foods and extra additives from their diet. Basically, you are choosing to eat whole, unrefined foods.
The basics of eating clean include - eating lots of fruits and vegetables. These are straight from nature - the idea is to stay away from anything that may have been altered in any way.
Include meats, however; "whole" meats that you have chosen straight from the butcher or prepared yourself. You would be very surprised to find out what is actually in ground turkey.
Enjoy whole grains - these are grains that are still complete and haven't been broken down in any form. Examples include: brown rice, whole wheat and other whole grains. You will have to get used to reading over food labels. Just because a product says its "whole grain" does not mean it is. It also does not mean they have not added a bunch of other ingredients as well.
Eat fewer ingredients - try not to purchase items with more than 4-6 ingredients in the ingredient list. Also, be sure you recognize every ingredient. If you can't pronounce it, you probably shouldn't put it in your body.
Simple Guidelines for Success:
Eating small frequent meals 5-6 times per day to level blood sugar and prevent hunger
Include lean protein, complex carbohydrates and heart healthy fats in each meal choice
Avoid ALL processed and/or refined foods (sugar, baked goods, candies, white flour, white rice, etc)
Avoid saturated and trans fats
Avoid sodas, high calorie juices and other drinks that give your body no nutritional value and lots of unnecessary (unwanted) calories
Avoid high calorie, non nutritious foods (i.e. junk food)
Drink at least 8 cups of water per day
This is a perfect example of why people bash "clean eating"...pretty much 95% bro-science nonsense....0 -
This is a perfect example of why people bash "clean eating"...pretty much 95% bro-science nonsense....
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How so?, please elaborate so I can take your comment seriously0 -
This is a perfect example of why people bash "clean eating"...pretty much 95% bro-science nonsense....
and nearly impossible today..I mean come on what is wrong with homemade pumpkin pie???? or Shredded wheat brown bread????0 -
CLEAN EATING
There is no direct definition for "clean eating". Specifically, clean eating is NOT a diet - it is a lifestyle choice. Clean eating is not a new concept, as a matter of fact clean eating has been around for quite some time. Those involved with health, fitness or nutrition from competitors to personal trainers and health conscious individuals have been practicing "clean eating" for years.
One with many benefits that include:
Fat Loss
Weight Loss
Increased Energy
Clearer Skin
Shinier Hair
Better Sleep
Increased mental well -being
When someone makes the choice to eat "clean" they are choosing to eliminate all processed foods and extra additives from their diet. Basically, you are choosing to eat whole, unrefined foods.
The basics of eating clean include - eating lots of fruits and vegetables. These are straight from nature - the idea is to stay away from anything that may have been altered in any way.
Include meats, however; "whole" meats that you have chosen straight from the butcher or prepared yourself. You would be very surprised to find out what is actually in ground turkey.
Enjoy whole grains - these are grains that are still complete and haven't been broken down in any form. Examples include: brown rice, whole wheat and other whole grains. You will have to get used to reading over food labels. Just because a product says its "whole grain" does not mean it is. It also does not mean they have not added a bunch of other ingredients as well.
Eat fewer ingredients - try not to purchase items with more than 4-6 ingredients in the ingredient list. Also, be sure you recognize every ingredient. If you can't pronounce it, you probably shouldn't put it in your body.
Simple Guidelines for Success:
Eating small frequent meals 5-6 times per day to level blood sugar and prevent hunger
Include lean protein, complex carbohydrates and heart healthy fats in each meal choice
Avoid ALL processed and/or refined foods (sugar, baked goods, candies, white flour, white rice, etc)
Avoid saturated and trans fats
Avoid sodas, high calorie juices and other drinks that give your body no nutritional value and lots of unnecessary (unwanted) calories
Avoid high calorie, non nutritious foods (i.e. junk food)
Drink at least 8 cups of water per day
This is a perfect example of why people bash "clean eating"...pretty much 95% bro-science nonsense....
How dare you denigrate bro-science by associating it with this nonsense0 -
What the heck is dirty about cheese?
I know why! Every time I eat cheese it causes my eyes to roll back in my head, my body to shiver, and my toes to curl. Cheese is bad oh so dirty.0 -
All of my questions were sincere; merely since the time I posted it I've seen more than one definition of what qualifies as "clean eating" in this very thread, so it appears that either your definition is merely 'your idea,' or you have a citation (yet to be provided) for your definition being strictly correct that will help clarify the issue for others who would like to understand the topic better.
I am confused. Do you eat chili dogs because they're on the list of foods you consider "clean" (you might make them in such a way that they qualify by the definition you understand), or is this "eating clean" like a person who says he's a vegan, around mouthfuls of a bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich? Or, do you not eat clean by the definition you understand, but simply felt you wanted to chime in to support those who do?I am really glad you posted this so I dont have to haha. I totally agree. Before i started eating "clean" (the best that i can at least) i had so many stomach problems, ate fast food a lot, never went to the farmers market or bought fresh produce, everything was always frozen (not that theres anything wrong with that, but i do LOVE the farmers market, and i am actually spending LESS money than I was before) I am definitately a much happier person than I was at the beginning of the year. I try not to judge what other people eat and it really bothers me that people put down cleaning eating so much.
I feel the same way. Eating "cleaner" makes me feel better. It's not for everyone. I do eat "nonclean" foods as well occasionally. Had chili dogs this weekend.
Do I think it's necessary for weight loss. No.
I do believe I said that I don't eat clean all the time. I just stated that I try to and I feel better when I do. The chili dogs were fun but not for all the time.
And eating clean means you eat things as close to their natural state as possible. I'm not always able to do that. But I do when I can. Why so snarky? Can I not answer the question of the OP? This is what works for me and has nothing to do with fitness.
I am not forcing my ideas on anyone or trying to change anyone.
If you're not trying to force ideas on anyone or change anyone, such as defining 'clean eating' without putting any 'in my opinion' qualifiers on the definition, why are you presenting your ideas on this particular topic, in this particular forum?
LOL. So you want specific scientific studies that prove to you that it makes ME feel good? LMFAO. I think you are reading more into it than is actually there. If I want to make a homemade Grassfed burger Wth do you care.
I do believe you need to read the OP again. I eat this way. I like it. Eat what you want. Who gas?0 -
Include meats, however; "whole" meats that you have chosen straight from the butcher or prepared yourself. You would be very surprised to find out what is actually in ground turkey.
This was my favorite seriously....
I mean come on for me if I were to "define" clean eating it wouldn't be meat from anyone but something I had raised or the "religious" group that lives in town as they don't use hormones etc for their meat/chicken etc...
Try finding meat that doesn't have growth hormones, antibiotics etc in it...0 -
LOL There is a whole book dedicated to that topic called Twinkie Deconstructed. Read it if you're so inclined.
Twinkie, Deconstructed: My Journey to Discover How the Ingredients Found in Processed Foods Are Grown, Mined (Yes, Mined), and Manipulated into What America Eats Paperback
by Steve Ettlinger (Author)
Thank-you for this. I am always interested in learning more about our food sources, how they are processed, and what exactly is involved in shipping them thousands of miles. I have cycled between cleaner (not clean) and not so much clean eating. For me, it is about flavor and about not contributing to a system that has been intentionally silent and aggressive about silencing others regarding what is involved in our foods. Then the food industry places blame for increased incidences of illness on lifestyle choices. How do we make these choices, when we do not have enough information? This is a topic that is bottomless and I could go on forever. I suspect others could too.
My food choices are not about my weight loss journey, my portion sizes are. :flowerforyou:
Edited for grammar: I always need a spelling or grammar error in there!0 -
This is a perfect example of why people bash "clean eating"...pretty much 95% bro-science nonsense....
and nearly impossible today..I mean come on what is wrong with homemade pumpkin pie???? or Shredded wheat brown bread????
Why nearly impossible today?
I eat Organic meat, fruits, vegetables and include as many other organic foods as possible. It's pretty easy if you know where to find it... science nonsense? well I don't have to be a scientist to know that hormones, pesticides and whatever chemically induced engineered digit code number pumped into food is bad for you.
This is not to say that I did not have a magnum ego on the weekend and enjoy every finger licken part of it.
But i try to eat clean as much as possible, but not all the time - Cus life is for living.
SO YOU CAN EAT YOUR FRIKEN FILTHY *kitten* JELLY BEAN!! HAHA
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There's chemicals in the air.........I guess we should stop breathing..........and look for only clean air0
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My food choices are not about my weight loss journey, my portion sizes are. :flowerforyou:
I agree 100% with this0
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