Touchy subject. Pornography. Need advice.

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  • StaceyJ2008
    StaceyJ2008 Posts: 411 Member
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    My opinion is that this should not have even been posted but a private conversation should be had about it and it worked out privately. However, I personally think that if it is that big of an issue you should move on. Honestly I think the more you bring it up the more he will watch it just because you said not to. Also, I think that exploration and new things are healthy within reason and unless whatever he is watching is some crazy absurd stuff, I don't understand the "standards" comment.Also, if you read fifty shades at all, its the same thing. I wish you luck.
  • _SABOTEUR_
    _SABOTEUR_ Posts: 6,833 Member
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    you'll get the misogynistic attitude that this is some how your fault or you are not acting as an appropriate receptacle for your boyfriend's seminal emissions. First, that's bull sh-t and please don't take any of that to heart. I assume he has a brain and some amount of empathy and is a fully grown responsible adult for his own actions?

    What you're saying is that the relationship should be set by the lowest common denominator (the person with the lower sex drive.) Does it work the other way round or would asking a woman to supress her sexual urges to please her partners lower sex drive also be misogynistic?
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
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    Well I'm not sure that's it. Is 3 times a day not enough?

    quality not quantity.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    Well I'm not sure that's it. Is 3 times a day not enough?

    quality not quantity.

    QFT
  • _SABOTEUR_
    _SABOTEUR_ Posts: 6,833 Member
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    So what if he watches porn? Doesn't hurt you, doesn't replace you, so what? No problem. I'd be offended and insulted if I were him and you tried to make him "promise" not to look at porn. Porn is, in my opinion, boring and uninteresting, but no harm to you.

    No doubt I'll get a bunch of backlash for this, but I'm surprised that so many here don't see pornography as harmful to relationships. My husband is a marriage counselor. The problems he sees couples for are 1. Infidelity (either partner, but most often the man). 2. Pornography addiction (the male is addicted).

    A lot of the comments I read on here were from men who seem to be somewhat defensive about the subject. Kind of 'A man will be a man' type of bullpucky. Men have every ability to control themselves if they want to.

    Hold the phone, women don't become addicted to pornography? EVER?

    Sounds legit.

    Also, in my experience just as many women cheat as men, it's just that women are much more clever at hiding it.
  • metaphoria
    metaphoria Posts: 1,432 Member
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    In my opinion, porn sets unrealistic expectations for relationships. I'm not doing that stuff and no one is paying me to. I agree that a couple needs to have the same moral grounds. If the OP is not comfortable with it then she isn't. That's how she feels. No one can tell anyone else how to feel!!

    In my opinion, romantic films set unrealistic expectations for relationships. So if a guy isn't comfortable with chick flicks, can he rightfully ban them if the girl sets out to ban porn?

    I hope so because this is a relationship, right? Equals and all that stuff.

    I hate most chick flicks because of that. Lol

    Bracing myself for the onslaught of "you're lying! You love chick flicks cuz youre a chick and you have all the feelings!!!"
  • cynthiaj777
    cynthiaj777 Posts: 787 Member
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    It doesn't matter where you get your appetite as long as you go home for dinner.

    My boyfriend has said something along these lines. It doesn't matter what either of us does during the day, who we talk to or who we look at....at night, we go to bed with each other.

    And porn....yeah. Whatever. It is porn. WHO CARES!!!! :huh:

    The ex? Naw....I count that as ALMOST cheating. I would have slapped-a-hoe.
  • doorki
    doorki Posts: 2,611 Member
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    So what if he watches porn? Doesn't hurt you, doesn't replace you, so what? No problem. I'd be offended and insulted if I were him and you tried to make him "promise" not to look at porn. Porn is, in my opinion, boring and uninteresting, but no harm to you.

    No doubt I'll get a bunch of backlash for this, but I'm surprised that so many here don't see pornography as harmful to relationships. My husband is a marriage counselor. The problems he sees couples for are 1. Infidelity (either partner, but most often the man). 2. Pornography addiction (the male is addicted).

    A lot of the comments I read on here were from men who seem to be somewhat defensive about the subject. Kind of 'A man will be a man' type of bullpucky. Men have every ability to control themselves if they want to.

    I have a question beyond the obvious point that a marriage counselor only see's the worst case scenarios (kind of like a cop/EMT becoming jaded). Is the male addicted to porn or does the wife say he is addicted to porn?
  • littlepinkhearts
    littlepinkhearts Posts: 1,055 Member
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    He is probably looking at porn because he is not getting laid enough....just sayin'

    your opinion for sure, but definately not always the case!
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
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    So what if he watches porn? Doesn't hurt you, doesn't replace you, so what? No problem. I'd be offended and insulted if I were him and you tried to make him "promise" not to look at porn. Porn is, in my opinion, boring and uninteresting, but no harm to you.

    No doubt I'll get a bunch of backlash for this, but I'm surprised that so many here don't see pornography as harmful to relationships. My husband is a marriage counselor. The problems he sees couples for are 1. Infidelity (either partner, but most often the man). 2. Pornography addiction (the male is addicted).

    A lot of the comments I read on here were from men who seem to be somewhat defensive about the subject. Kind of 'A man will be a man' type of bullpucky. Men have every ability to control themselves if they want to.

    But if they don't have an addiction to porn, do they need to control themselves?

    Another big problem with couples is alcohol addiction in one partner. Does that mean that all couples should completely avoid alcohol? No. Only count something as a problem if it is a problem.
  • jollyjoe321
    jollyjoe321 Posts: 529 Member
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    Well I'm not sure that's it. Is 3 times a day not enough?

    How YOU doing?
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
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    So what if he watches porn? Doesn't hurt you, doesn't replace you, so what? No problem. I'd be offended and insulted if I were him and you tried to make him "promise" not to look at porn. Porn is, in my opinion, boring and uninteresting, but no harm to you.

    No doubt I'll get a bunch of backlash for this, but I'm surprised that so many here don't see pornography as harmful to relationships. My husband is a marriage counselor. The problems he sees couples for are 1. Infidelity (either partner, but most often the man). 2. Pornography addiction (the male is addicted).

    A lot of the comments I read on here were from men who seem to be somewhat defensive about the subject. Kind of 'A man will be a man' type of bullpucky. Men have every ability to control themselves if they want to.

    I have a question beyond the obvious point that a marriage counselor only see's the worst case scenarios (kind of like a cop/EMT becoming jaded). Is the male addicted to porn or does the wife say he is addicted to porn?

    The men see it as a problem as well.

    Here is an interesting read. From Men's Health.

    http://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/porn-debate?fullpage=true
  • The_Enginerd
    The_Enginerd Posts: 3,982 Member
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    So what if he watches porn? Doesn't hurt you, doesn't replace you, so what? No problem. I'd be offended and insulted if I were him and you tried to make him "promise" not to look at porn. Porn is, in my opinion, boring and uninteresting, but no harm to you.

    No doubt I'll get a bunch of backlash for this, but I'm surprised that so many here don't see pornography as harmful to relationships. My husband is a marriage counselor. The problems he sees couples for are 1. Infidelity (either partner, but most often the man). 2. Pornography addiction (the male is addicted).

    A lot of the comments I read on here were from men who seem to be somewhat defensive about the subject. Kind of 'A man will be a man' type of bullpucky. Men have every ability to control themselves if they want to.

    But if they don't have an addiction to porn, do they need to control themselves?

    Another big problem with couples is alcohol addiction in one partner. Does that mean that all couples should completely avoid alcohol? No. Only count something as a problem if it is a problem.
    Some have sex addictions. All couples should probably avoid sex, just to be safe.
  • MiloBloom83
    MiloBloom83 Posts: 2,724 Member
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    I'm just curious, where is the line drawn between your partner wanting to try new things they've seen in porn and projecting "porn standards" onto you? what are these aforementioned "porn standards"? this is a genuine question.

    Piledriver DP while loudly singing the German National Anthem.

    This is a classic. Excellent production values.
  • littlepinkhearts
    littlepinkhearts Posts: 1,055 Member
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    Been through the porn addiction with an ex....one of his many talents haha....all new to me at the time. Went through all the phases untill i finally accepted it wasn't gonna change. All men are different obviously, you need to find out if he's addicted, or just likes it and deal with it in whatever way you need to. Whatever way you can live wilth.
  • _errata_
    _errata_ Posts: 1,653 Member
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    True statements:
    1) He looks at porn.
    2) You don't like him looking at porn.
    3) He has lied to you about not looking at porn.
    4) He will never stop looking at porn.

    Can you live with a guy that looks at porn?

    If you can't tolerate a relationship with someone who looks at porn, then you guys need to split (and prepare to be a spinster). Otherwise, you need to stop judging the guy and figure out how to make it work. Demonizing the behavior will only lead to him lying to you more.

    It is really that simple.
  • metaphoria
    metaphoria Posts: 1,432 Member
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    It doesn't matter where you get your appetite as long as you go home for dinner.

    My boyfriend has said something along these lines. It doesn't matter what either of us does during the day, who we talk to or who we look at....at night, we go to bed with each other.

    And porn....yeah. Whatever. It is porn. WHO CARES!!!! :huh:

    The ex? Naw....I count that as ALMOST cheating. I would have slapped-a-hoe.

    A question for this hypothetical situation... Why should the ex be punished when the boyfriend is the one who is supposed to be committed to you?
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
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    So what if he watches porn? Doesn't hurt you, doesn't replace you, so what? No problem. I'd be offended and insulted if I were him and you tried to make him "promise" not to look at porn. Porn is, in my opinion, boring and uninteresting, but no harm to you.

    No doubt I'll get a bunch of backlash for this, but I'm surprised that so many here don't see pornography as harmful to relationships. My husband is a marriage counselor. The problems he sees couples for are 1. Infidelity (either partner, but most often the man). 2. Pornography addiction (the male is addicted).

    A lot of the comments I read on here were from men who seem to be somewhat defensive about the subject. Kind of 'A man will be a man' type of bullpucky. Men have every ability to control themselves if they want to.

    But if they don't have an addiction to porn, do they need to control themselves?

    Another big problem with couples is alcohol addiction in one partner. Does that mean that all couples should completely avoid alcohol? No. Only count something as a problem if it is a problem.

    I spoke of addiction, because that is what my husband specializes in. IMO, viewing porn AT ALL is problematic for couples. Understanding that, yes, the man would be responsible for controlling himself.

    ETA: Editing for clarity: Pornography effects men and women very differently because of the way our brains are wired. This is why pornography is geared toward men, and they are the ones who most often engage in it. Not always, but by and large. Of course, if a woman is engaging and it is a problem, she has the same responsibility. I only speak of the man originally because all of the posts saying 'Hey, a guy is a guy!'.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    So what if he watches porn? Doesn't hurt you, doesn't replace you, so what? No problem. I'd be offended and insulted if I were him and you tried to make him "promise" not to look at porn. Porn is, in my opinion, boring and uninteresting, but no harm to you.

    No doubt I'll get a bunch of backlash for this, but I'm surprised that so many here don't see pornography as harmful to relationships. My husband is a marriage counselor. The problems he sees couples for are 1. Infidelity (either partner, but most often the man). 2. Pornography addiction (the male is addicted).

    A lot of the comments I read on here were from men who seem to be somewhat defensive about the subject. Kind of 'A man will be a man' type of bullpucky. Men have every ability to control themselves if they want to.

    But if they don't have an addiction to porn, do they need to control themselves?

    Another big problem with couples is alcohol addiction in one partner. Does that mean that all couples should completely avoid alcohol? No. Only count something as a problem if it is a problem.

    I spoke of addiction, because that is what my husband specializes in. IMO, viewing porn AT ALL is problematic for couples. Understanding that, yes, the man would be responsible for controlling himself.

    At what about the women that watch porn? What if they both like porn? What if the other person that doesn't watch it is okay with the other person watching and has no insecurities about it? Realizes that just because her SO likes it/watches it doesn't demean her in any way.

    According to you, regardless of the situation, they are doomed.
  • silvergurl518
    silvergurl518 Posts: 4,123 Member
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    unless it's straight up an addiction (which is totally feasable), porn exists as a way to act out fantasies. shouldn't be taken personally that he enjoys it--why not join him....could be fun :) he's not "cheating" on you by looking at porn (unless he's on it all the time and neglects the actual relationship). i've enjoyed porn before.
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