Santa!?!?! I hate the lie!

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  • I've decided to tell my 4 year old about santa. i am going to tell him today that santa is just a made up person. im sick of that man getting all of the credit for me working tons of extra hours and getting credit for the gifts i buy my son. then my son asks me what will i get him after i have already filled up the tree. I will educate him about Christ's b-day and leave it at that from now on.
  • Number_44
    Number_44 Posts: 97 Member
    Santa is real.....from a certain point of view.


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  • bekkiigrogie
    bekkiigrogie Posts: 6 Member
    I've decided to tell my 4 year old about santa. i am going to tell him today that santa is just a made up person. im sick of that man getting all of the credit for me working tons of extra hours and getting credit for the gifts i buy my son. then my son asks me what will i get him after i have already filled up the tree. I will educate him about Christ's b-day and leave it at that from now on.

    That's a shame about the present thing :( If you do stockings, maybe reserve those for 'santa' and keep the presents under the trees from you? It worked for my family! Though this way works as well, just a suggestion :)
  • Our reasoning was that we wanted our kids to trust Mom and Dad to be the ones that they could count on to always tell the truth about stuff.

    We felt that the Santa lie, would prove us to be unreliable tricksters on important topics.
    So, we celebrated Christmas with great joy, presents, Christmas Carol's family times, but Santa was a pretend fun thing that they were in the know about. They felt a bit on in when their other friends didn' t realize that Santa wasn't real. Which they kept secret.

    We respected other people's choices in regard to Santa, but for us the truth was more important.

    Merry Christmas!
  • davert123
    davert123 Posts: 1,568 Member
    I was watching the old version of miracle on 42nd street yesterday and this let me know why I shouldn't interfere with my kids belief and then working out the 'truth' about father Christmas. I know each to their own but for me I don't want to destroy beauty because it is made up. Most of the stuff most people believe is made up to some extent anyway (re: social construction) so I'm not planning on destroying some magic. There will be plenty of time for my daughter to work out the cold truth of reality, why the rich Shepard the poor and why the poor are mainly gullible enough to believe the lies told to them. Why they get us to go around the world murdering people in their own countries so they can be better off while telling us we are the good guys. Why we are destroying the earth because of corporate greed instead of living sustainably while most people are living in the sold fantasy that it has got to be that way.... I'm very happy she believes in Santa still :-)
  • Jimaudit
    Jimaudit Posts: 275
    The holiday season should be about the spirit of giving. Who cares if your child does or doesn't believe in Santa.

    My 4 year old donates 1 gift for every gift she receives. Whether through her daycare collecting gifts, the church giving tree, the local firehouse or toys for tots.

    We have taught her that there are children who's parents cannot afford to buy them presents or live in a middle class home and giving is a way to make their lives a little brighter.

    The spirit of giving is how we explain good old Saint Nick and I for one see nothing wrong with her believing. Another recent poster used Xmas as a birthday celebration, AWESOME IDEA and what a special time for your children.

    If your friend believes a "lie" about Christmas is the cornerstone for distrusting his/her parents, then I would suggest they have deeper issues than Christmas.

    Children grow up so quick as it is, and all the pressures society puts on them, my god let them enjoy their adolescence and keep the spirit of giving alive!!
  • Jimaudit
    Jimaudit Posts: 275
    I was watching the old version of miracle on 42nd street yesterday and this let me know why I shouldn't interfere with my kids belief and then working out the 'truth' about father Christmas. I know each to their own but for me I don't want to destroy beauty because it is made up. Most of the stuff most people believe is made up to some extent anyway (re: social construction) so I'm not planning on destroying some magic. There will be plenty of time for my daughter to work out the cold truth of reality, why the rich Shepard the poor and why the poor are mainly gullible enough to believe the lies told to them. Why they get us to go around the world murdering people in their own countries so they can be better off while telling us we are the good guys. Why we are destroying the earth because of corporate greed instead of living sustainably while most people are living in the sold fantasy that it has got to be that way.... I'm very happy she believes in Santa still :-)

    Well said!
  • rduhlir
    rduhlir Posts: 3,550 Member
    I was raised in a Catholic home. When I went up to my parents and asked them about it, they gave me a non-pushy religious answer, and I think I am a better person for the way they told me the truth. And I remember that talk, almost word for word, because it was the first true "grown up" way of talking to me and so it stuck with me. They basically described the background behind St. Nicolas and where Santa Claus came from and left it up to me to believe or not...which grown up now and looking back I apprechiate very much to have been allowed to develop my own way of thinking on the subject.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    why is this thread still going??? :noway: who the heck cares that much anyway? If you want to do Santa with your kids, do Santa. They'll love it and if the worst thing that someone experiences in childhood is finding out Santa's not real, then they had a damn good childhood. And if you don't want to do Santa with your kids because you're not comfortable telling them lies, then don't. There are millions of non-Christian children around the world who never had Santa and they're perfectly happy, imaginative and capable of thinking outside the box.
  • Howdoyoufeeltoday
    Howdoyoufeeltoday Posts: 481 Member
    I've decided to tell my 4 year old about santa. i am going to tell him today that santa is just a made up person. im sick of that man getting all of the credit for me working tons of extra hours and getting credit for the gifts i buy my son. then my son asks me what will i get him after i have already filled up the tree. I will educate him about Christ's b-day and leave it at that from now on.

    once he gets older and finds out santa isn't real then you'll get credit for all those gifts, so why spoil his fun now? How will he feel once he starts going to school and everyone talks about santa and what he got them? he'll be left out of the convo and forced to keep quiet, cause lets face it, the other parents aren't gonna appreciate him telling their kids santa is all BS. And he loses the chance to believe in something magical and bigger then himself and everything around him without having to learn years of biblical stories that he wont understand and wont care about (sorry, but it's true. 4 years olds don't care about Jesus' birthday). All this is about you wanting credit for your gift giving. :( seems pretty unfair to me.
  • Everybody lies to their children in one form or another just to protect them from all the BS adults have to deal with. Plus, when the child finds out that Santa is really mom & dad I think there's some disappointment but it's tempered by the idea that the parents are actually the gift givers. Besides, Christmas (or Hanukkah, or Kwanzaa, I guess) is supposed to be a fun and festive time no matter what you believe. If nothing else it means we're past the winter solstice, so spring is coming (slowly). I'd just roll with it and give the gifts and tell the kids that Santa is just another way parents try to make their children happy because the love them.
  • stackhead
    stackhead Posts: 121 Member


    There is a lot more wonder and awesomeness in science than there is in the <b>limits of the imagination of the human brain</b>. It's sad when parents are so ignorant to the real world around them that they feel the need to make up imaginary beings.

    The bold part says it all for me. That you think there are limits on your imagination shows how poor your imagination is.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Santa is real.....from a certain point of view.


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  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    why is this thread still going??? :noway: who the heck cares that much anyway? If you want to do Santa with your kids, do Santa. They'll love it and if the worst thing that someone experiences in childhood is finding out Santa's not real, then they had a damn good childhood. And if you don't want to do Santa with your kids because you're not comfortable telling them lies, then don't. There are millions of non-Christian children around the world who never had Santa and they're perfectly happy, imaginative and capable of thinking outside the box.

    Because Obi Wan???

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  • kellenas
    kellenas Posts: 154
    why is this thread still going??? :noway: who the heck cares that much anyway? If you want to do Santa with your kids, do Santa. They'll love it and if the worst thing that someone experiences in childhood is finding out Santa's not real, then they had a damn good childhood. And if you don't want to do Santa with your kids because you're not comfortable telling them lies, then don't. There are millions of non-Christian children around the world who never had Santa and they're perfectly happy, imaginative and capable of thinking outside the box.

    THANK YOU!
  • Blessed9jaBeauty
    Blessed9jaBeauty Posts: 504 Member
    The holiday season should be about the spirit of giving. Who cares if your child does or doesn't believe in Santa.

    My 4 year old donates 1 gift for every gift she receives. Whether through her daycare collecting gifts, the church giving tree, the local firehouse or toys for tots.

    We have taught her that there are children who's parents cannot afford to buy them presents or live in a middle class home and giving is a way to make their lives a little brighter.

    The spirit of giving is how we explain good old Saint Nick and I for one see nothing wrong with her believing. Another recent poster used Xmas as a birthday celebration, AWESOME IDEA and what a special time for your children.

    If your friend believes a "lie" about Christmas is the cornerstone for distrusting his/her parents, then I would suggest they have deeper issues than Christmas.

    Children grow up so quick as it is, and all the pressures society puts on them, my god let them enjoy their adolescence and keep the spirit of giving alive!!

    My sentiments exactly. Thank you for this:flowerforyou:
  • Taking bets that this thread will resurface Christmas Eve. Who's in?
  • VelvetMorning
    VelvetMorning Posts: 398 Member
    Holy cow this got a lot of play. For what its worth, I wouldn't want my babies feeling left out at school. If they went to an all Jew school, then Hanukkah away! **** sentiments, no one even celebrates Christmas correctly. It's commercialized to the extent that people go into debt year after year to appease the masses and not feel like losers for not buying $12,000 in misc. bs