Eat McDonald's, lose wight, set terrible example
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Well, I'm a little torn.
Actually, I do see it as a testament to what we are all doing here. Isn't it? It's about choices and counting calories. So I do think it is smart and interesting.
On the other hand, I also see it as kind of ignorant. You seriously don't want to even consider that stuff "food". It may provide some nutrients, but it's pretty much crap. I have a really hard time believing his blood work improved. But if it did, he must of had a REALLY poor diet before this.0 -
I don't know if anyone remembers the HBO series "The weight of the nation" (it's really really good) but they talked about certain parts of the country that had -I think they called it something like- fast food wastelands, where a large percentage of the population lives with fast food as literally their only choice. There are literally no grocery stores or places to buy fresh food within the local public transportation routes, and an abundance of fast food restaurants. People without their own transportation have to rely on fast food. They have some of the highest obesity rates and unhealthiest people in the country.
I think this story could translate to some hope for how people that live in these areas can turn their health situations around, despite the circumstances. A big part of the problem is accepting that if you don't have food availability, you're going to be fat and unhealthy.
Just adding to this post, here is a link to the documentary if others haven't seen it yet: http://theweightofthenation.hbo.com/films
Good comment here.0 -
I don't know if anyone remembers the HBO series "The weight of the nation" (it's really really good) but they talked about certain parts of the country that had -I think they called it something like- fast food wastelands, where a large percentage of the population lives with fast food as literally their only choice. There are literally no grocery stores or places to buy fresh food within the local public transportation routes, and an abundance of fast food restaurants. People without their own transportation have to rely on fast food. They have some of the highest obesity rates and unhealthiest people in the country.
I think this story could translate to some hope for how people that live in these areas can turn their health situations around, despite the circumstances. A big part of the problem is accepting that if you don't have food availability, you're going to be fat and unhealthy.
Freakin BINGO!!!!!!
They're called "food desserts" and they do exist.
They are INCREDIBLY challenging to deal with.
As far as I'm concerned, this teacher did these student an incredible service, and selflessly.0 -
Well, I'm a little torn.
Actually, I do see it as a testament to what we are all doing here. Isn't it? It's about choices and counting calories. So I do think it is smart and interesting.
On the other hand, I also see it as kind of ignorant. You seriously don't want to even consider that stuff "food". It may provide some nutrients, but it's pretty much crap. I have a really hard time believing his blood work improved. But if it did, he must of had a REALLY poor diet before this.
He was nearly 300 lbs. so yeah, crap diet.
Some people HAVE to consider this stuff "food"
Ugh. I will be blogging on this tomorrow.0 -
Well, I'm a little torn.
Actually, I do see it as a testament to what we are all doing here. Isn't it? It's about choices and counting calories. So I do think it is smart and interesting.
On the other hand, I also see it as kind of ignorant. You seriously don't want to even consider that stuff "food". It may provide some nutrients, but it's pretty much crap. I have a really hard time believing his blood work improved. But if it did, he must of had a REALLY poor diet before this.
:huh:
I can't...I just can't.
It's food. It isn't crap. Maybe it isn't your preferred food of choice, but it's still food.
And why do people believe the "cleanness" of their food affects blood markers more than their obesity (or lack of it)? That's *your* lack of understanding of what actually drives health markers.0 -
I don't know if anyone remembers the HBO series "The weight of the nation" (it's really really good) but they talked about certain parts of the country that had -I think they called it something like- fast food wastelands, where a large percentage of the population lives with fast food as literally their only choice. There are literally no grocery stores or places to buy fresh food within the local public transportation routes, and an abundance of fast food restaurants. People without their own transportation have to rely on fast food. They have some of the highest obesity rates and unhealthiest people in the country.
I think this story could translate to some hope for how people that live in these areas can turn their health situations around, despite the circumstances. A big part of the problem is accepting that if you don't have food availability, you're going to be fat and unhealthy.
Freakin BINGO!!!!!!
They're called "food desserts" and they do exist.
They are INCREDIBLY challenging to deal with.
As far as I'm concerned, this teacher did these student an incredible service, and selflessly.
Food desserts are delicious and awesome.
You're thinking of food deserts.
I'm a big fan of food desserts...but not so much of food deserts.
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Well, I'm a little torn.
Actually, I do see it as a testament to what we are all doing here. Isn't it? It's about choices and counting calories. So I do think it is smart and interesting.
On the other hand, I also see it as kind of ignorant. You seriously don't want to even consider that stuff "food". It may provide some nutrients, but it's pretty much crap. I have a really hard time believing his blood work improved. But if it did, he must of had a REALLY poor diet before this.
:huh:
I can't...I just can't.
It's food. It isn't crap. Maybe it isn't your preferred food of choice, but it's still food.
And why do people believe the "cleanness" of their food affects blood markers more than their obesity (or lack of it)? That's *your* lack of understanding of what actually drives health markers.
My oh-so-tainted and filthy heart and all my normal blood levels love you, Jof. Bless you for being not stupid.0 -
I wasn't bothered. I think it showed that we are in control of our portions and not to blame everyone for what we consume. I still think it's crappy food to begin with.0
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Well, I'm a little torn.
Actually, I do see it as a testament to what we are all doing here. Isn't it? It's about choices and counting calories. So I do think it is smart and interesting.
On the other hand, I also see it as kind of ignorant. You seriously don't want to even consider that stuff "food". It may provide some nutrients, but it's pretty much crap. I have a really hard time believing his blood work improved. But if it did, he must of had a REALLY poor diet before this.
:huh:
I can't...I just can't.
It's food. It isn't crap. Maybe it isn't your preferred food of choice, but it's still food.
And why do people believe the "cleanness" of their food affects blood markers more than their obesity (or lack of it)? That's *your* lack of understanding of what actually drives health markers.
My oh-so-tainted and filthy heart and all my normal blood levels love you, Jof. Bless you for being not stupid.
(Remember this warm fuzzy feeling when you read my next post. :laugh: )0 -
I don't know if anyone remembers the HBO series "The weight of the nation" (it's really really good) but they talked about certain parts of the country that had -I think they called it something like- fast food wastelands, where a large percentage of the population lives with fast food as literally their only choice. There are literally no grocery stores or places to buy fresh food within the local public transportation routes, and an abundance of fast food restaurants. People without their own transportation have to rely on fast food. They have some of the highest obesity rates and unhealthiest people in the country.
I think this story could translate to some hope for how people that live in these areas can turn their health situations around, despite the circumstances. A big part of the problem is accepting that if you don't have food availability, you're going to be fat and unhealthy.
Freakin BINGO!!!!!!
They're called "food desserts" and they do exist.
They are INCREDIBLY challenging to deal with.
As far as I'm concerned, this teacher did these student an incredible service, and selflessly.
Food desserts are delicious and awesome.
You're thinking of food deserts.
I'm a big fan of food desserts...but not so much of food deserts.
:drinker:
Subliminal. :drinker:0 -
On the contrary. It's a good example that even if you eat fast food all the time, you still have the power to choose what you eat and how much of it you consume.0
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Yeah, pretty much what jof said.
I mean how can it not be "food" when the teacher and his students (collectively from what I understand) planned a 2,000 calorie per meal day all while taking into consideration appropriate macro's? I mean it ludicrous to sit there and say it's not food. People can make just as unhealthy foods in their own home, truthfully speaking. I think it's great that these kids are learning moderation, the importance of being cognizant of their caloric intake, what macros are, and that life is about CHOICES.
Also in for new poster trying to save the MFP community from judgement because.....funny.0 -
"Cisna enlisted his students as nutritionists, turning his weight-loss plan into a school project by having a few of his kids plan his daily menus. He also began walking 45 minutes each day, a change from his usual sedentary lifestyle. "
So the STUDENTS actually <gasp> learned something useful in school? They learned about calories and macronutrients? And they learned that walking for 45 minutes is healthy?
I am DEFINITELY bothered by this.0 -
It doesn't really bother me. What bothers me is the misleading titles I've seen this published under. The exercise he started doing is what helped him lose the weight (assuming his caloric intake did not change when he started eating McDonald's). However,every article I have seen about it makes it sound like it was the McDonald's food itself that caused the weight loss. I can see this having an ill effect.
But the students learned about calories and they learned that exercise is healthy. Why be bothered by that?0 -
It doesn't really bother me. What bothers me is the misleading titles I've seen this published under. The exercise he started doing is what helped him lose the weight (assuming his caloric intake did not change when he started eating McDonald's). However,every article I have seen about it makes it sound like it was the McDonald's food itself that caused the weight loss. I can see this having an ill effect.
But the students learned about calories and they learned that exercise is healthy. Why be bothered by that?
I'm no math whiz, but I do believe that 2000 calories (which was his daily goal) is a reduction for someone nearly 300 lbs and sedimentary. I'm not being snide... I actually DON'T know with certainty what maintenance calories for that weight would be, but I'm thinking that its higher.0 -
It doesn't really bother me. What bothers me is the misleading titles I've seen this published under. The exercise he started doing is what helped him lose the weight (assuming his caloric intake did not change when he started eating McDonald's). However,every article I have seen about it makes it sound like it was the McDonald's food itself that caused the weight loss. I can see this having an ill effect.
But the students learned about calories and they learned that exercise is healthy. Why be bothered by that?
I'm no math whiz, but I do believe that 2000 calories (which was his daily goal) is a reduction for someone nearly 300 lbs and sedimentary. I'm not being snide... I actually DON'T know with certainty what maintenance calories for that weight would be, but I'm thinking that its higher.
My maintenance is about 2000-2100 and he was more than double my body weight.0 -
I just realized what it is about this that rustles the jimmies of many:
It shows that it actually *is* possible to eat even the "crappiest of crap food" and not eat to excess...and it highlights that the excuse of "once I start eating 'crap' food I just can't stop" is just that: an excuse.0 -
It doesn't really bother me. What bothers me is the misleading titles I've seen this published under. The exercise he started doing is what helped him lose the weight (assuming his caloric intake did not change when he started eating McDonald's). However,every article I have seen about it makes it sound like it was the McDonald's food itself that caused the weight loss. I can see this having an ill effect.
But the students learned about calories and they learned that exercise is healthy. Why be bothered by that?
Emphasis added.
That seems like a pretty big assumption given he lost 37 lbs over 90 days and was reportedly (I am not doing any research on this story or teacher *sticks tongue out* - just saw it referenced on some other thread) pushing 300 lbs when this started. Yes, adopting 45 minutes of walking helped. No, it did not result in 37 lbs lost. Eating 2000 cals a day made this happen much more than anything else. And doing so from one crappy (forgive me McD fans :flowerforyou: ) fastfood chain's menu in a way that took into account basic macros, is a pretty impressive testament to knowing what you you're consuming and consuming with a goal in mind.0 -
Oh crap - Auburn lost.
Off to Mickey D's.0 -
It doesn't really bother me. What bothers me is the misleading titles I've seen this published under. The exercise he started doing is what helped him lose the weight (assuming his caloric intake did not change when he started eating McDonald's). However,every article I have seen about it makes it sound like it was the McDonald's food itself that caused the weight loss. I can see this having an ill effect.
But the students learned about calories and they learned that exercise is healthy. Why be bothered by that?
Emphasis added.
That seems like a pretty big assumption given he lost 37 lbs over 90 days and was reportedly (I am not doing any research on this story or teacher *sticks tongue out* - just saw it referenced on some other thread) pushing 300 lbs when this started. Yes, adopting 45 minutes of walking helped. No, it did not result in 37 lbs lost. Eating 2000 cals a day made this happen much more than anything else. And doing so from one crappy (forgive me McD fans :flowerforyou: ) fastfood chain's menu in a way that took into account basic macros, is a pretty impressive testament to knowing what you you're consuming and consuming with a goal in mind.
Yep.
Those kids may never actually have to use MFP... Or if they do, they'll be good at it. VERY good.0 -
Again, let's agree to disagree. Have a good night, everyone.
That's not how the internet works.0 -
I'm using "OP" in a general sense.
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The exercise he started doing is what helped him lose the weight (assuming his caloric intake did not change when he started eating McDonald's). However,every article I have seen about it makes it sound like it was the McDonald's food itself that caused the weight loss.
As has been demonstrated a billion times here on MFP, weight loss comes from the diet, not from exercise.
Walking 45 minutes, even at his starting weight, burns all of 135 extra calories.0 -
I just realized what it is about this that rustles the jimmies of many:
It shows that it actually *is* possible to eat even the "crappiest of crap food" and not eat to excess...and it highlights that the excuse of "once I start eating 'crap' food I just can't stop" is just that: an excuse.
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I just realized what it is about this that rustles the jimmies of many:
It shows that it actually *is* possible to eat even the "crappiest of crap food" and not eat to excess...and it highlights that the excuse of "once I start eating 'crap' food I just can't stop" is just that: an excuse.
And "BINGO" was his name!0 -
I think he set a good example and I applaud him for it and for his weight loss.0
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I'm using "OP" in a general sense.
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I just realized what it is about this that rustles the jimmies of many:
It shows that it actually *is* possible to eat even the "crappiest of crap food" and not eat to excess...and it highlights that the excuse of "once I start eating 'crap' food I just can't stop" is just that: an excuse.
And "BINGO" was his name!
He prefers the name "dessert" :laugh:0 -
You eat less then TDEE you lose weight pretty simple. Good for the guy he lost weight and his class learned something. So he went to McDonalds. He went by the RDA's 2000 calories guidelines it was under his TDEE so he'd lose weight no matter if he followed it.
You can eat "clean"/organic/vegan and still gain weight if you go over TDEE. Though I haven't watch TV in 3 years now so I don't know how the sheep are trained from the likes of Dr. Oz and other daytime TV personality's.0 -
No, there are better things in life to bothered by.
Take this judgmental post, for instance...
Because: Funny!0
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