Eat McDonald's, lose wight, set terrible example

Mechanically separated chicken is still chicken. It's scrap that is being used. Ain't no problem with that!

Kinda like...I dunno...making soup stock from bones....

Not mine.. On the cheaper Octane.. its harder stop.. lots of knocking sounds, terrible ride, terrible gas milage

When I use the higher Octane, I get much better gas milage, no knocking sounds, all in all, a much better ride.

You got better mileage with a higher octane. Wow.

All I'd be bothered by based on the OP's quote would be how does the blood work come back over a long period of time, when related to cholesterol levels, plus kidney, liver, thyroid etc function. No change? Rock on, eat what you want!

The body is a clever thing and a short while means nothing. I'd like to see a study done showing it over a year, maybe a few.

Now that would be interesting to me. I want to see how internally everything is ticking over and one is well.

I personally like eating what once was called 'clean food' because I don't get digestive issues, I do when I go down the junk route.

Also, I have a different body comp if I have a poor selection of foods. How do I know? Well I've done competing for years, I know how it effects how I look and my hunger levels. It doesn't work for ME (note I say me, no preaching here).

Doesn't mean my way is right, just what works solely for me and people who I coach.

However if it works for you, happy days - you are onto a winner (heck eating 'junk' and getting what you want, what could be better??!!).

Because it's less expensive and most cars will function just fine. :drinker:

Yeah, I have no idea what an octane is. I just go for whichever is the cheapest gas.

I know what octane is & I still buy cheaper gas.

That way I can save money so that I can purchase organic, non-GMO, sugar free, low carb, fat free, pescevegan, glutin-free, grain-free, calorie-free, paleo, Dr. Oz-approved super foods.

I'd rather just stay fat.

But if I did that, I could never use my new made-up word: pescavegan. I think it's nifty, dammit!

It would probably appeal to those who say they're vegan 80% of the time. I'm a dairivegan. Oh well I'm a beefavegan. Okay those don't work as well. Yours is better.:flowerforyou:

I think beefavegan sounds like an awesome soup flavor!

I actually consider myself a drunkatarian. 'Cause... Booze.

That just makes it sound like soup made of beef and vegans. :laugh: :sick:

Dammit, now I'm hungry for vegans!

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But ... but ... MCDONALDS! That clown is evil! :laugh:
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I think the Burger King "king" was a lot scarier than Ronald McDonald lol.

Because it's less expensive and most cars will function just fine. :drinker:

Yeah, I have no idea what an octane is. I just go for whichever is the cheapest gas.

I know what octane is & I still buy cheaper gas.

That way I can save money so that I can purchase organic, non-GMO, sugar free, low carb, fat free, pescevegan, glutin-free, grain-free, calorie-free, paleo, Dr. Oz-approved super foods.

I'd rather just stay fat.

But if I did that, I could never use my new made-up word: pescavegan. I think it's nifty, dammit!

It would probably appeal to those who say they're vegan 80% of the time. I'm a dairivegan. Oh well I'm a beefavegan. Okay those don't work as well. Yours is better.:flowerforyou:

I think beefavegan sounds like an awesome soup flavor!

I actually consider myself a drunkatarian. 'Cause... Booze.

That just makes it sound like soup made of beef and vegans. :laugh: :sick:

Dammit, now I'm hungry for vegans!

I hear vegans are the greenest of Soylent Greens.

Nailed it.gif

:laugh:

If your body was a car.
and Gas is your food.
Sure you could get away with using 80 octane for your car.. but why?

I was thinking along very similar lines yesterday, actually.

If you've got a race car where you've got it setup to make every bit of power possible where seconds count, you're going to need the best fuel and a lot of servicing. So akin to an athelete or someone jucin' etc.

If you've got a fast road car, then you don't need to pay as much attention, but often still do need better stuff - my 90s BMW M3 says you should use 98 octane (think we work it differently here), but you're ok or the normal stuff for getting around.
So, your average person who's making an effort doesn't need to be eating chicken breasts and kale all the time, but probably does need to make a bit of an effort.

Then if you've got a basic car you're not asking much of, it's just a waste of money to use expensive stuff - the cheap stuff will do the job just as well. So, the person who is just trying to lose weight and get a bit healthier, rather than push their body in strength or cardio and so on is probably just as well on a bit of a deficit whatever they are eating.
(Though, of course there is evidence that if you're not that healthy, it makes more of difference - perhaps akin to using some fuel system cleaner on an old car and making sure it's kept serviced, etc.)

Not mine.. On the cheaper Octane.. its harder stop.. lots of knocking sounds, terrible ride, terrible gas milage

When I use the higher Octane, I get much better gas milage, no knocking sounds, all in all, a much better ride.

So glad I have a better vehicle than that. I drive a Toyota Camry and get excellent mileage without paying extra at the pump. You might check out the Camry when looking for a new vehicle. When Toyota says they are fun to drive, they aren't lying. I love my Camry!

Oh and this:

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0210-paying-premium-high-octane-gasoline

Paying more for fuel is just burning money except for a very few vehicle types.

Darn. Both of my cars need the higher octane, and our third vehicle is a diesel truck. No cheap gas for us!

That *is* a bummer.

If your body was a car.
and Gas is your food.
Sure you could get away with using 80 octane for your car.. but why?

Because the car still operates optimally with lower octane gasoline? Terrible analogy there.

Or it's a perfect analogy, depending on how you look at it.

Not mine.. On the cheaper Octane.. its harder stop.. lots of knocking sounds, terrible ride, terrible gas milage

When I use the higher Octane, I get much better gas milage, no knocking sounds, all in all, a much better ride.

So glad I have a better vehicle than that. I drive a Toyota Camry and get excellent mileage without paying extra at the pump. You might check out the Camry when looking for a new vehicle. When Toyota says they are fun to drive, they aren't lying. I love my Camry!

Oh and this:

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0210-paying-premium-high-octane-gasoline

Paying more for fuel is just burning money except for a very few vehicle types.

Darn. Both of my cars need the higher octane, and our third vehicle is a diesel truck. No cheap gas for us!

That *is* a bummer.

I know right? What we get for buying "luxury" vehicles. boo.

Yeah, luxury is not so luxurious now, is it? :laugh:

was he eating Pop tart Ice cream sandwiches? then Im OK

Not mine.. On the cheaper Octane.. its harder stop.. lots of knocking sounds, terrible ride, terrible gas milage

When I use the higher Octane, I get much better gas milage, no knocking sounds, all in all, a much better ride.

So glad I have a better vehicle than that. I drive a Toyota Camry and get excellent mileage without paying extra at the pump. You might check out the Camry when looking for a new vehicle. When Toyota says they are fun to drive, they aren't lying. I love my Camry!

Oh and this:

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0210-paying-premium-high-octane-gasoline

Paying more for fuel is just burning money except for a very few vehicle types.

Darn. Both of my cars need the higher octane, and our third vehicle is a diesel truck. No cheap gas for us!

That *is* a bummer.

I know right? What we get for buying "luxury" vehicles. boo.

Yeah, luxury is not so luxurious now, is it? :laugh:

Price for gas-wise, no... but the heated leather seat and nice ride are still nice.

Not mine.. On the cheaper Octane.. its harder stop.. lots of knocking sounds, terrible ride, terrible gas milage

When I use the higher Octane, I get much better gas milage, no knocking sounds, all in all, a much better ride.

So glad I have a better vehicle than that. I drive a Toyota Camry and get excellent mileage without paying extra at the pump. You might check out the Camry when looking for a new vehicle. When Toyota says they are fun to drive, they aren't lying. I love my Camry!

Oh and this:

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0210-paying-premium-high-octane-gasoline

Paying more for fuel is just burning money except for a very few vehicle types.

Darn. Both of my cars need the higher octane, and our third vehicle is a diesel truck. No cheap gas for us!

That *is* a bummer.

I know right? What we get for buying "luxury" vehicles. boo.

Yeah, luxury is not so luxurious now, is it? :laugh:

Price for gas-wise, no... but the heated leather seat and nice ride are still nice.

:bigsmile:

My butt has seat heat envy.

Not mine.. On the cheaper Octane.. its harder stop.. lots of knocking sounds, terrible ride, terrible gas milage

When I use the higher Octane, I get much better gas milage, no knocking sounds, all in all, a much better ride.

So glad I have a better vehicle than that. I drive a Toyota Camry and get excellent mileage without paying extra at the pump. You might check out the Camry when looking for a new vehicle. When Toyota says they are fun to drive, they aren't lying. I love my Camry!

Oh and this:

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0210-paying-premium-high-octane-gasoline

Paying more for fuel is just burning money except for a very few vehicle types.

Darn. Both of my cars need the higher octane, and our third vehicle is a diesel truck. No cheap gas for us!

That *is* a bummer.

I know right? What we get for buying "luxury" vehicles. boo.

Yeah, luxury is not so luxurious now, is it? :laugh:

Price for gas-wise, no... but the heated leather seat and nice ride are still nice.

:bigsmile:

My butt has seat heat envy.

Oh, we love our heated seats. Have them in all three vehicles. Living where we do, it's pretty lovely, especially this week when we started out at -21!

It's overkill in Louisiana, as it will be back in the 70s in a couple of days, but today? Brrrrrrrr

Well, I'm a little torn.
Actually, I do see it as a testament to what we are all doing here. Isn't it? It's about choices and counting calories. So I do think it is smart and interesting.

On the other hand, I also see it as kind of ignorant. You seriously don't want to even consider that stuff "food". It may provide some nutrients, but it's pretty much crap. I have a really hard time believing his blood work improved. But if it did, he must of had a REALLY poor diet before this.

if one chicken breast is sold to a grocery chain for the frozen case, and another one is sold to a mcdonald's to go in a salad or a grilled sandwich, does the one that went to McDonald's automatically become crap?

Yes,