what women shouldn't do on the first date...
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My 19 year olds daughters self set rules and requirements, She is a beautiful college student. 1. he has to have a job and plans for a future or the date never happens 2. he must not drink a lot and never on the first date. 3. He pays for the first date, what he does on the first date shows what kind of man he is. (sorry to the guy that posted about her paying, but if you ask a girl out, show some respect and pay for the first date. 3. if you go to a restaurant ask him what he is going to order, look at the price and order a dish that costs LESS then what he has ordered. Don''t order the most expensive thing on the menu. (most guys right now are on a budget, respect it) 4. don't ever go back to his place on the first date! 5. Don't talk about exes. 6. if he doesn't show respect she doesn't go out with him in the first place or again. (ex. he calls and asks her to go drinking with his friends, she doesn't go.) 7. This one works, and she has proven it in the last month, be straight out and tell him if he wants to talk with her again to call or text her. She makes it clear she will not call or text him and she NEVER acts needy! Not sure how she says it but seems like they love this,. They seem to get it and it gets rid of all the games that are played with texting and calling now. If he doesn't call, he isn't worth it anyway. Shes not waiting for days for a call now. She recently did all this with one guy and he called her about an hour after the date, asked her out for a second date and she has since been dating him. Wow, who would have thunk it! It is possible that good guys are still looking for decent women!
Holy wall of text. :huh: :huh: :noway:0 -
So glad I never decided to try dating someone from a fitness site. Ya'll b's are nuts.
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My 19 year olds daughters self set rules and requirements, She is a beautiful college student. 1. he has to have a job and plans for a future or the date never happens 2. he must not drink a lot and never on the first date. 3. He pays for the first date, what he does on the first date shows what kind of man he is. (sorry to the guy that posted about her paying, but if you ask a girl out, show some respect and pay for the first date. 3. if you go to a restaurant ask him what he is going to order, look at the price and order a dish that costs LESS then what he has ordered. Don''t order the most expensive thing on the menu. (most guys right now are on a budget, respect it) 4. don't ever go back to his place on the first date! 5. Don't talk about exes. 6. if he doesn't show respect she doesn't go out with him in the first place or again. (ex. he calls and asks her to go drinking with his friends, she doesn't go.) 7. This one works, and she has proven it in the last month, be straight out and tell him if he wants to talk with her again to call or text her. She makes it clear she will not call or text him and she NEVER acts needy! Not sure how she says it but seems like they love this,. They seem to get it and it gets rid of all the games that are played with texting and calling now. If he doesn't call, he isn't worth it anyway. Shes not waiting for days for a call now. She recently did all this with one guy and he called her about an hour after the date, asked her out for a second date and she has since been dating him. Wow, who would have thunk it! It is possible that good guys are still looking for decent women!
Holy wall of text. :huh: :huh: :noway:
LOL sorry.... as you can see its been a topic in my house lately!
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Wow. It used to be if a guy asked you out on a date, he paid. I always offer to pay for my own, but if he accepts it - after he asked me out - I never go out with him again. The difference is in the way he asks. If he treats it like a date, it should be a date. Otherwise, it's just 2 friends hanging out, like a couple of girls, and each should pay their own. But that means there's no hint of intimacy involved. Unfortunately, too many people date with an end-goal in mind - "relationship" or "hookup" = Dating Fail.0
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not put out! hello! i opened doors, payed for dinner and wine, the whole shebang. The least you can do is put out.
I'd have no problem "putting out" for someone like you. I'd put u right out the front door and tell you to not let the door hit you in the @$$ on the way out.0 -
Talk About the Ex. -shakes head violently- Not attractive
No, but sometimes relevant. I WILL talk about my kids on a first date. Because if the guy I'm dating isn't cool with kids, then there's no point in a second date. And due to the fact that my ex chose no custody in the divorce, and I have them full time. Talking about the ex, a bit as backstory to why I have the kids full time, is an important piece of who I am, and my level of freedom to date.
And I'll aways offer to pay on a date. But I've never actually had anyone take me up on that.0 -
How do we destroy it?
It's pretty much the same thing for women as it is for men.
You destroy it my not treating the person you are on a date with as you could any other human being: with courtesy, respect and plain common decency. If you relax, enjoy yourself and have no expectations on the outcome of the date you will normally have a great time.
When I go out with my friends I always offer to buy a drink or get a round in - why would it be different for a date?
When I go out with friends I quite naturally hold doors open - why would it be different for a date?
When I go out with friends I have no other motivation but to enjoy myself and be in their company - why would it be different for a date?
Dating doesn't have to suck.0 -
I just suddenly realized why so many men get friend zoned so quickly. LOL0
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Wow. It used to be if a guy asked you out on a date, he paid. I always offer to pay for my own, but if he accepts it - after he asked me out - I never go out with him again. The difference is in the way he asks. If he treats it like a date, it should be a date. Otherwise, it's just 2 friends hanging out, like a couple of girls, and each should pay their own. But that means there's no hint of intimacy involved. Unfortunately, too many people date with an end-goal in mind - "relationship" or "hookup" = Dating Fail.
Ah women...
So by a man paying for dinner that allows for a chance of intimacy? If you pay for your own food there is no chance at sex.
If you ladies insist on being prostitutes at least get actual cash as opposed to a Caesar salad for your troubles.
(I always pay on a date, I just laugh when women tie paying for a date to sex and expect to sound like anything other than a low price escort)
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Every guy is different, I don't think there is a definitive list of do's and don’ts, just relax and go with the flow.
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Ps, talking about what colour your bridesmaid dresses will be on the wedding may fall into the don’ts category lol
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Don't try too hard. Try the perfect amount. Don't dress too sexy, but dress sexy enough. You aren't a nun. Show some skin. Don't talk too much, but when you do talk, talk about all the RIGHT things. Don't flirt with the waiter. Don't look at your phone. Don't forget to brush your teeth eight times before the date, twice during, and once after. Don't order garlicky or spicy foods. Don't tell your date he reminds you of your dad. Don't talk about your porcelain egg collection. Don't pretend you don't have kids, but don't whip out your phone and show him a few hundred candid photos of them, either. Don't forget to shave. Don't go past second base. Don't come off as needy, unless the guy seems to like that kind of thing. Don't drink too much, but don't drink too little, either. Guys want a girl that knows how to have fun but doesn't pass out every night with two empty bottles of pinot on her nightstand. Don't be a ballbuster, unless your new guy would like his balls busted. Don't wear flats, but don't wear stilettos, either. Don't forget to be yourself, unless yourself sucks. Then be someone else. Don't tell him how much you can deadlift unless you are 99.9% certain he can lift more than you. Don't finish your food. Don't ask for a doggie bag. Don't pick up the check. It's emasculating.0
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Wow. It used to be if a guy asked you out on a date, he paid. I always offer to pay for my own, but if he accepts it - after he asked me out - I never go out with him again. The difference is in the way he asks. If he treats it like a date, it should be a date. Otherwise, it's just 2 friends hanging out, like a couple of girls, and each should pay their own. But that means there's no hint of intimacy involved. Unfortunately, too many people date with an end-goal in mind - "relationship" or "hookup" = Dating Fail.
Ah women...
So by a man paying for dinner that allows for a chance of intimacy? If you pay for your own food there is no chance at sex.
If you ladies insist on being prostitutes at least get actual cash as opposed to a Caesar salad for your troubles.
(I always pay on a date, I just laugh when women tie paying for a date to sex and expect to sound like anything other than a low price escort)
I always offer to pay but it makes me sick that women think like this and then treat us like *kitten* for thinking that there is an off chance at getting some!0 -
BUMP to read later0
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Don't try too hard. Try the perfect amount. Don't dress too sexy, but dress sexy enough. You aren't a nun. Show some skin. Don't talk too much, but when you do talk, talk about all the RIGHT things. Don't flirt with the waiter. Don't look at your phone. Don't forget to brush your teeth eight times before the date, twice during, and once after. Don't order garlicky or spicy foods. Don't tell your date he reminds you of your dad. Don't talk about your porcelain egg collection. Don't pretend you don't have kids, but don't whip out your phone and show him a few hundred candid photos of them, either. Don't forget to shave. Don't go past second base. Don't come off as needy, unless the guy seems to like that kind of thing. Don't drink too much, but don't drink too little, either. Guys want a girl that knows how to have fun but doesn't pass out every night with two empty bottles of pinot on her nightstand. Don't be a ballbuster, unless your new guy would like his balls busted. Don't wear flats, but don't wear stilettos, either. Don't forget to be yourself, unless yourself sucks. Then be someone else. Don't tell him how much you can deadlift unless you are 99.9% certain he can lift more than you. Don't finish your food. Don't ask for a doggie bag. Don't pick up the check. It's emasculating.
Bloody hell.
If I was a woman and I had to live up to all those requirements I think I would rather be single...0 -
I can't believe Mikey and DMZ haven't shown up yet.0
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Wow. It used to be if a guy asked you out on a date, he paid. I always offer to pay for my own, but if he accepts it - after he asked me out - I never go out with him again. The difference is in the way he asks. If he treats it like a date, it should be a date. Otherwise, it's just 2 friends hanging out, like a couple of girls, and each should pay their own. But that means there's no hint of intimacy involved. Unfortunately, too many people date with an end-goal in mind - "relationship" or "hookup" = Dating Fail.
Ah women...
So by a man paying for dinner that allows for a chance of intimacy? If you pay for your own food there is no chance at sex.
If you ladies insist on being prostitutes at least get actual cash as opposed to a Caesar salad for your troubles.
(I always pay on a date, I just laugh when women tie paying for a date to sex and expect to sound like anything other than a low price escort)
I always offer to pay but it makes me sick that women think like this and then treat us like *kitten* for thinking that there is an off chance at getting some!
If a man is stupid enough to buy me a drink, buy me dinner, or otherwise pay for my **** that's on him. Regardless of whether he pays for dinner, you don't owe him sex, intimacy, or anything else. I just never offer to pay and if he insists on going splitsies, I just excuse myself to the bathroom and sneak out of the restaurant.
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If I ask a guy out on a date, I would want to pay since I asked. If he asks me, I would offer to pay still, its just polite.
I like to laugh, smile and joke around alot. So I tend to steer clear of any kind of serious discussions on the first date. Just relax, be yourself and most of all have fun.
I am not a big dinner date fan, I prefer to do something fun, like air hockey or pool or bowling.0
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