How do you keep your food intake "Clean"?
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We just read the label off the chocolate cake I had for my birthday at work... (my boss is one of those clean eater types) and our local chemist/biologist said one of the ingredients is essentially anti-freeze.
I'm still happy I got chocolate cake!
Propylene glycol. It's used as a nontoxic antifreeze. Very similar to ethlyene glycol, which is also used as antifreeze, but ethylene glycol is highly toxic and not used in food.
Both are very sweet-tasting. Propylene glycol is often used as a preservative and sometimes a sweetener. Ethylene glycol is found every now and then in products from China like toothpaste, because it is extremely cheap and sweet.
Pro Tip: If you have a dog that gets into anti-freeze, get it drunk on grain alcohol of some variety (e.g vodka). The liver will prioritize processing the ethanol.0 -
Lol, there's still the 10 second rule. Hell, I attribute my immunity factor to the 10 second rule.:laugh:If it didn`t fall on the floor , ITS CLEAN
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i have a few simple suggestions:
1. eating healthy starts with grocery shopping. what you buy is what you will eat, so try to stick to the outside of the supermarket as much as possible (meats, fresh veggies, milk products, and grains)
2. make your meals ahead of time as much as possible. for example, plan your meals the day before. make your lunch the day before as well, so you can just grab and go in the morning on the way to work.
3. healthy eating does not mean lack of flavor. to make chicken and fish tastey use any assortment of seasonings instead of sauces.
4. use a food scale! you will be amazed at how much overestimation happens.
5. eating out is fine once in a while, but basically any dish you order out can be made with less calories at home because you can control what you add. even grilled or baked fishes and veggies at restaraunts are usually soaked in butter. also, portion sizes are way too big when eating out, so eat half and take the rest home for the next day.0 -
"Clean" means I get a fresh dish and/or fork out of the cupboard or drawer. "Not clean" really means "clean enough" -- a dish or fork on the counter that has no obvious crud on it, or at least not a lot. This is actually preferable because it doesn't dirty up more dishes. Then there's "clean now" where I get a dish off the counter, rinse it off, swipe it with the dish towel and put it into service.
I love kale. Kale is the new kid on the block in trendy nutritional circles. Before it was hip, people never heard of it unless they grew up in southern Maryland or farther south. I grew up on it. You may have to in order to like it. I'll allow that there are adult-onset kale lovers but I suspect it's an acquired taste for people not weaned on it. You take a lot of kale, a lot of cabbage, and a lot of onions, chop 'em all up together, cut deep slits into your ham and stuff the kale mixture in there before you cook it (can roast, but boiling is better) and you have something scrumptious that people outside of Southern Maryland have never heard of. It's clean unless you drop it on the floor.
You may change your mind about kale if you eat the young center leaves instead of the mature, tough outer ones.0 -
I love kale. Kale is the new kid on the block in trendy nutritional circles. Before it was hip, people never heard of it unless they grew up in southern Maryland or farther south. I grew up on it.
Well, no, actually kale is quite common in a lot of dishes in a variety of cultures. It's just more likley to be a new idea here because few people who are overweight got there on a diet including a healthy amount of vegetables.
About the only way I hand't already had kale was the "trendy" over baked "chip" style. But, that probably has more to do with not having been raised on potato chips and never really thinking about any sort of chip as a snack. They are quite handy through as a travel snack.0 -
Organic fruits and veggies. Meat that hasn't been "cleaned" with chemicals. Cooking with a very limited amount of oils. NOT eating something that comes out of a box. NOT something that is dehydrated.
I'm not looking to start a debate on what "diet" is "better" or "worse". All I'm saying is that this works for me and I feel amazing from my way of eating. If you do enjoy "eating clean", great. If you don't, wonderful. However, don't down someone else's success.
i eat ice cream every night and feel great ..so there you go …0 -
so you eat basically nothing?I am staying away from things like potatoes, corn, bread, pasta, juice, sodas, sugars, rice, condiments, and any other processed foods. I try to eat grilled, baked, or broiled meats, fresh veggies, and fresh fruits. I only drink water. And I limit the oils I use to prepare meals. To me that's eating clean.0 -
so you eat basically nothing?I am staying away from things like potatoes, corn, bread, pasta, juice, sodas, sugars, rice, condiments, and any other processed foods. I try to eat grilled, baked, or broiled meats, fresh veggies, and fresh fruits. I only drink water. And I limit the oils I use to prepare meals. To me that's eating clean.
Maybe that's nto what you eat, but, assuming that's at an appropriate level of calories, how does that qualify as "nothing?"0 -
so you eat basically nothing?I am staying away from things like potatoes, corn, bread, pasta, juice, sodas, sugars, rice, condiments, and any other processed foods. I try to eat grilled, baked, or broiled meats, fresh veggies, and fresh fruits. I only drink water. And I limit the oils I use to prepare meals. To me that's eating clean.
Maybe that's nto what you eat, but, assuming that's at an appropriate level of calories, how does that qualify as "nothing?"
if said person is not eating "sugars" then that means they are not eating carbs, which would eliminate whole swath of foods from their diet...oh but then they said they eat fruit, so I guess they are eating sugar...now I am just confused..0 -
so you eat basically nothing?I am staying away from things like potatoes, corn, bread, pasta, juice, sodas, sugars, rice, condiments, and any other processed foods. I try to eat grilled, baked, or broiled meats, fresh veggies, and fresh fruits. I only drink water. And I limit the oils I use to prepare meals. To me that's eating clean.
Maybe that's nto what you eat, but, assuming that's at an appropriate level of calories, how does that qualify as "nothing?"
if said person is not eating "sugars" then that means they are not eating carbs, which would eliminate whole swath of foods from their diet...oh but then they said they eat fruit, so I guess they are eating sugar...now I am just confused..
It would eliminate everything except meat and processed oil, I think. So.. yeah.0 -
so you eat basically nothing?I am staying away from things like potatoes, corn, bread, pasta, juice, sodas, sugars, rice, condiments, and any other processed foods. I try to eat grilled, baked, or broiled meats, fresh veggies, and fresh fruits. I only drink water. And I limit the oils I use to prepare meals. To me that's eating clean.
Maybe that's nto what you eat, but, assuming that's at an appropriate level of calories, how does that qualify as "nothing?"
if said person is not eating "sugars" then that means they are not eating carbs, which would eliminate whole swath of foods from their diet...oh but then they said they eat fruit, so I guess they are eating sugar...now I am just confused..
I wasn't asking about what else they said. I was aking what about the bit you quote sounded like nothing. If there was some addendum about sugar that you were responding to, it would help if you posted it. Otherwise, I can't see how that person's diet was nothing. That snippet sounds pretty healthy. Did you leave something out?0 -
I love kale. Kale is the new kid on the block in trendy nutritional circles. Before it was hip, people never heard of it unless they grew up in southern Maryland or farther south. I grew up on it.
Well, no, actually kale is quite common in a lot of dishes in a variety of cultures. It's just more likley to be a new idea here because few people who are overweight got there on a diet including a healthy amount of vegetables.
About the only way I hand't already had kale was the "trendy" over baked "chip" style. But, that probably has more to do with not having been raised on potato chips and never really thinking about any sort of chip as a snack. They are quite handy through as a travel snack.
I, for one, love love love kale and I grew up eating it too.
As a matter of fact, we are supposed to get a winter storm tomorrow and Wednesday so I made a grocery store run just to stock up on kale. I eat it every day and not because I have to, because I want to.
This whole clean eating debate is going to go as far as political ones go on here. People that do it, believe in it, and people that do not, well, do not. It all boils down to how much time, effort and money you want to put into your diet.
Plus, there is no food police. No one is standing at the grocery store telling a person they can only buy fresh food or processed food.
What makes me sad is we tell people that have food issues that they should overhaul their lifestyle, add more fresh food into it and cut out some of the high fat, high calorie, high sodium foods they consume now, then we have people that come in and demand that they eat it. It becomes very confusing to many. Then we have the people that scream if it fits in your macros, then we have people that say do not track sugar, or fat and the only thing we should worry about are calories. I am not here to help you be skinny, I am here to help you be healthy. I mean, the coroner can do a darn good job at making someone look pretty good laying in their casket is if all we care about is how we look.
It does not take a rocket scientist to know that a few more vegetables and a few less cookies are GOOD for you. But in saying that, a cookie now and then is not going to kill us (hopefully).
What some people fail to understand is that moderation is a big issue for most over weight people. If it were not, they would not be in the shape they are in. If you are capable of moderation that is indeed a wonderful thing, but we can not tell someone that is not able to moderate that they should be able to and it is a lack of will power that is their problem. That is plain wrong and the reason hundreds of people die each year.0 -
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OMG how did I miss the slow cooked kale in a crook pot with beef?
I almost threw up in my mouth?
it's like soggy canned spinach... WHY.... WHY is it so popular. goddayum.
whatever- I'll take my regular veggies.
And a big fat LOL at the "can pronounce it- shouldn't eat it" crew.
I can't pronounce anything at the italian place properly other than lasagna and spaghetti- I can't pronounce any of the Malbec's I order- and I can only pronounce the stuff from the Lebanese place because I work there. Otherwise I'm winging it.
Guess I shouldn't eat/drink all that stuff either.
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how did I miss the awesomeness of this thread blowing up?0
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What does "keeping it clean" mean for you in terms of nutritional intake?!?!
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So no unnatural chemicals or additives and no trans fats.0 -
so you eat basically nothing?I am staying away from things like potatoes, corn, bread, pasta, juice, sodas, sugars, rice, condiments, and any other processed foods. I try to eat grilled, baked, or broiled meats, fresh veggies, and fresh fruits. I only drink water. And I limit the oils I use to prepare meals. To me that's eating clean.
Maybe that's nto what you eat, but, assuming that's at an appropriate level of calories, how does that qualify as "nothing?"
if said person is not eating "sugars" then that means they are not eating carbs, which would eliminate whole swath of foods from their diet...oh but then they said they eat fruit, so I guess they are eating sugar...now I am just confused..
I wasn't asking about what else they said. I was aking what about the bit you quote sounded like nothing. If there was some addendum about sugar that you were responding to, it would help if you posted it. Otherwise, I can't see how that person's diet was nothing. That snippet sounds pretty healthy. Did you leave something out?
the original person that I quoted (see above) said they stay away from sugars, which would be all carbs too, which means they eat no pasta, bread, vegetables, fruit, and anything else with carbs in them...so I guess they just eat meat and oil...so essentially, nothing.0 -
the original person that I quoted (see above) said they stay away from sugars, which would be all carbs too, which means they eat no pasta, bread, vegetables, fruit, and anything else with carbs in them...so I guess they just eat meat and oil...so essentially, nothing.
Sounds like you're just working from different definitions of sugar. Still wouldn't be nothing. Might not be healthy, but that's different.
In one of the sugar fiascos last week a woman told me she had to go off all sugar because she was addicted. Her diary said she ate three bananas that day, so....:noway:0 -
so you eat basically nothing?I am staying away from things like potatoes, corn, bread, pasta, juice, sodas, sugars, rice, condiments, and any other processed foods. I try to eat grilled, baked, or broiled meats, fresh veggies, and fresh fruits. I only drink water. And I limit the oils I use to prepare meals. To me that's eating clean.
Maybe that's nto what you eat, but, assuming that's at an appropriate level of calories, how does that qualify as "nothing?"
if said person is not eating "sugars" then that means they are not eating carbs, which would eliminate whole swath of foods from their diet...oh but then they said they eat fruit, so I guess they are eating sugar...now I am just confused..
I doubt that you really are confused. I imagine that you knew very well when they said "sugars" they were refering to added sugars like table sugar, honey and syrups.0 -
so you eat basically nothing?I am staying away from things like potatoes, corn, bread, pasta, juice, sodas, sugars, rice, condiments, and any other processed foods. I try to eat grilled, baked, or broiled meats, fresh veggies, and fresh fruits. I only drink water. And I limit the oils I use to prepare meals. To me that's eating clean.
Maybe that's nto what you eat, but, assuming that's at an appropriate level of calories, how does that qualify as "nothing?"
if said person is not eating "sugars" then that means they are not eating carbs, which would eliminate whole swath of foods from their diet...oh but then they said they eat fruit, so I guess they are eating sugar...now I am just confused..
I doubt that you really are confused. I imagine that you knew very well when they said "sugars" they were refering to added sugars like table sugar, honey and syrups.
I reject the idea because it implies some difference between identical chemicals.0 -
i lick the chocolate off first, lick it clean... then eat whatever was inside of the chocolate...0
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so you eat basically nothing?I am staying away from things like potatoes, corn, bread, pasta, juice, sodas, sugars, rice, condiments, and any other processed foods. I try to eat grilled, baked, or broiled meats, fresh veggies, and fresh fruits. I only drink water. And I limit the oils I use to prepare meals. To me that's eating clean.
Maybe that's nto what you eat, but, assuming that's at an appropriate level of calories, how does that qualify as "nothing?"
if said person is not eating "sugars" then that means they are not eating carbs, which would eliminate whole swath of foods from their diet...oh but then they said they eat fruit, so I guess they are eating sugar...now I am just confused..
I doubt that you really are confused. I imagine that you knew very well when they said "sugars" they were refering to added sugars like table sugar, honey and syrups.
I reject the idea because it implies some difference between identical chemicals.
If the poster were talking about chemicals and not food, that might be true. Not all sugars have the same chemical make-up.0 -
the original person that I quoted (see above) said they stay away from sugars, which would be all carbs too, which means they eat no pasta, bread, vegetables, fruit, and anything else with carbs in them...so I guess they just eat meat and oil...so essentially, nothing.
Sounds like you're just working from different definitions of sugar. Still wouldn't be nothing. Might not be healthy, but that's different.
In one of the sugar fiascos last week a woman told me she had to go off all sugar because she was addicted. Her diary said she ate three bananas that day, so....:noway:
different definitions of sugar?
sugar be sugar my friend.0 -
Oh man, this looks like a trainwreck I need to read.0
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the original person that I quoted (see above) said they stay away from sugars, which would be all carbs too, which means they eat no pasta, bread, vegetables, fruit, and anything else with carbs in them...so I guess they just eat meat and oil...so essentially, nothing.
Sounds like you're just working from different definitions of sugar. Still wouldn't be nothing. Might not be healthy, but that's different.
In one of the sugar fiascos last week a woman told me she had to go off all sugar because she was addicted. Her diary said she ate three bananas that day, so....:noway:
different definitions of sugar?
sugar be sugar my friend.
Look the word up in a dictionary and you'll find more than one meaning.0 -
Hey bud, let's party!Oh man, this looks like a trainwreck I need to read.
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the original person that I quoted (see above) said they stay away from sugars, which would be all carbs too, which means they eat no pasta, bread, vegetables, fruit, and anything else with carbs in them...so I guess they just eat meat and oil...so essentially, nothing.
Sounds like you're just working from different definitions of sugar. Still wouldn't be nothing. Might not be healthy, but that's different.
In one of the sugar fiascos last week a woman told me she had to go off all sugar because she was addicted. Her diary said she ate three bananas that day, so....:noway:
different definitions of sugar?
sugar be sugar my friend.
Look the word up in a dictionary and you'll find more than one meaning.
And then there's the fact that it's listed separately from carbs on MFP and on those handly little "nutritional info boxes" on foods.
But, if you want to have some fun with it, next time someone at Thanksgiving asks you to pas the sugar for their coffee, pass them the sweet potatoes instead.
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so you eat basically nothing?I am staying away from things like potatoes, corn, bread, pasta, juice, sodas, sugars, rice, condiments, and any other processed foods. I try to eat grilled, baked, or broiled meats, fresh veggies, and fresh fruits. I only drink water. And I limit the oils I use to prepare meals. To me that's eating clean.
Maybe that's nto what you eat, but, assuming that's at an appropriate level of calories, how does that qualify as "nothing?"
if said person is not eating "sugars" then that means they are not eating carbs, which would eliminate whole swath of foods from their diet...oh but then they said they eat fruit, so I guess they are eating sugar...now I am just confused..
I doubt that you really are confused. I imagine that you knew very well when they said "sugars" they were refering to added sugars like table sugar, honey and syrups.
sugar is sugar...0 -
the original person that I quoted (see above) said they stay away from sugars, which would be all carbs too, which means they eat no pasta, bread, vegetables, fruit, and anything else with carbs in them...so I guess they just eat meat and oil...so essentially, nothing.
Sounds like you're just working from different definitions of sugar. Still wouldn't be nothing. Might not be healthy, but that's different.
In one of the sugar fiascos last week a woman told me she had to go off all sugar because she was addicted. Her diary said she ate three bananas that day, so....:noway:
umm no sugar is sugar..so I have one definition.0 -
so you eat basically nothing?I am staying away from things like potatoes, corn, bread, pasta, juice, sodas, sugars, rice, condiments, and any other processed foods. I try to eat grilled, baked, or broiled meats, fresh veggies, and fresh fruits. I only drink water. And I limit the oils I use to prepare meals. To me that's eating clean.
Maybe that's nto what you eat, but, assuming that's at an appropriate level of calories, how does that qualify as "nothing?"
if said person is not eating "sugars" then that means they are not eating carbs, which would eliminate whole swath of foods from their diet...oh but then they said they eat fruit, so I guess they are eating sugar...now I am just confused..
I doubt that you really are confused. I imagine that you knew very well when they said "sugars" they were refering to added sugars like table sugar, honey and syrups.
sugar is sugar...
So sucrose, fructose and glucose are exactly the same? No difference at all? Isn't it odd that someone went to the trouble to make up difference names for them?0
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