I refuse to take fitness advice...

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  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    So if someone with a lifetime of experience and knowledge gets old or injured they can't possibly give good advice anymore if they slip below the standard of physical perfection themselves?
    By that standard all sports coaches would have to be young, fit and in great shape.

    People may not have changed but a lot of the stuff I was taught 30 years ago is now known to be pointless or sub-optimal. Knowledge and science progresses.
  • NRSPAM
    NRSPAM Posts: 961 Member
    Yeah, someone who started out at 400lb's, and lost 200lb's wouldn't have a clue what they're talking about if they're more out of shape than you. :wink:
  • Just keep doing what you are doing. It takes time to transform your body. Some people lose weight quicker than others. Keep exercising and when the exercise gets easier, do something to challenge it. More weight or reps, or start trying a new exercise. Watch what you eat. Eat nutritious, balanced meals. It does not hurt to mix it up. Once or twice a week, eat more calories than normal. It confuses your body and it really helps you lose more or tones you more. Your body needs a certain amount of calories and certain foods supply your body with what it needs to maintain its health. Your body memorizes everything you do. It likes a routine, too. So you need to mix up your food and exercise. So keep it up! You are doing great!

    I am trying to lose 55 pounds total. I have lost 27 pounds so far. It has taken me over a year to do this. I could have done it quicker, but I want it to be a lifestyle change. I have done it solely with eating nutritious, balanced meals and exercise. I run 5Ks and walk my dogs. And yes, I do have a day that I eat what I want and not worry about counting calories on that day. I don't want to deprive myself of certain foods. I want to make this a permanent change for my health.

    You will get there. Look at it this way, it took time to get those pounds there, it is going to take time to get those pounds off. So keep it up! You are doing great! I know you can do it!
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  • PinkCupcakes84
    PinkCupcakes84 Posts: 235 Member
    First post and came out swinging lol. O.......k.......then op.

    The good news is nobody really cares who you take advice from.
  • RaeKM
    RaeKM Posts: 8 Member
    I tried to post a funny picture but alas, I suck.
  • Yea, true. Our society has gotten lazier because of our science and technology. We get our food from the grocery store instead of from gardens. We drive everywhere we go, instead of walking. Our jobs have gotten easier. A lot more people sit behind desks. Even the more physical jobs have gotten easier with technology.

    One thing that has not changed is a calorie burned still burns the same way. A calorie consumed still consumes the same way. Whether you eat 1500 calories of junk food or 1500 calories nutritious food. Your body does not care. Only you can keep it healthy by eating nutritious food and exercising.
  • Ksh1055
    Ksh1055 Posts: 248 Member
    I will always take fitness advice, just not from fad diets, cleanses, fat burning pills, etc. advertised on TV and internet. However, I will always seek information on learning more about nutrition, pay more attention to food labels and contents, and what I need daily to achieve results in a steady manner.

    It's the same as it has always been: eat healthier food, less/no sugar/fat, drink plenty of water and exercise daily. Some people have to do more than others and that's okay. However, there are some overweight individuals whose weight gain is due to some type of physical/mental issue and need extra help and/or sometimes surgery to be able to lose.

    I'm doing very well, exercising daily (more every day) and watching/logging my food intake. The logging has been the best thing for me as I can plan my meals at the beginning of the day, make any adjustments later and see exactly what my calories are and what the breakdown is. It's a learning process for me and I learn something almost every week that I didn't know before about nutrition and how your body works.

    I have never believed in fads or fast fixes. Weight loss takes determination, commitment and the motivation to do what is needed and do it every day. The sleeve gave me all of this and more and I thank those in my support group who have been through this and understand what it takes.
  • The problem with this argument is that, you can't tell how healthy or "in shape" someone is based solely on their physical appearance. Was this post written to announce to everyone that you pick and choose what advice you take and from whom? Don't we all do that in our own way? I guess I'm missing the point.
  • rushmama5
    rushmama5 Posts: 49 Member
    I'm sure you know stuff nobody else knows. you are the only one in the world that has
    had your personal experiences from your personal viewpoint. I read the post and tried
    to look past the apparent arrogance to find some wisdom in it. I found the idea of caution
    on following health advice in general a very wise idea. I find discovery over belief is always
    a good rule.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    In...

    ...because OP sounds angry.
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    Strong first post. Great way to make an introduction and let everyone know what you're about.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    I'd argue that judging someone's knowledge or expertise from their appearance alone is fallacious.

    I wouldn't discount anyone of any size if they presented a well thought out, well sourced and evidence backed argument.

    I also learned my lesson about listening to people just because they were in great shape.

    Nice ticker!
  • Wonderob
    Wonderob Posts: 1,372 Member
    It's a good job you're not a professional athlete - they almost always take fitness advice from someone less fit than they are

    Makes you wonder why Mayweather, Djokovic, Usain Bolt etc even have coaches; what on earth can they learn from people not as good as they are???
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
    Wait. So if what we know is the same and works the same as it did 100 years ago, then... scientific knowledge is not actually increasing?


    Whew, I don't have to pay attention anymore! Thanks, OP!
  • Agreed! I just had someone get on another employee because they skipped breakfast, saying "you will immediately go into starvation mode and your body will hold onto all the fat and will not lose any weight” and I just sat there I thought to myself, I wander how starving people in Africa aren’t fat then.

    Dear tab624 ,
    I take it you've never been to Africa. Which of the African countries are you referring to when you speak of "starving people in Africa"? In the same vein as not taking fitness advice from people less fit than yourself, do not speak ignorantly of continents you know nothing about!
  • whitebalance
    whitebalance Posts: 1,654 Member
    Strong first post. Great way to make an introduction and let everyone know what you're about.
    I like it that the OP was so straightforward up front... If all first-timers who don't want advice would just say so, instead of asking for advice and THEN rejecting it, MFP would probably be a happier place. Although I suppose the resulting absence of cat gifs would be regrettable.
  • Galatea_Stone
    Galatea_Stone Posts: 2,037 Member
    Two words that make your "I refuse to take advice from someone more out of shape than me argument:" Mark Tippetoe. He's gotten older, is sporting a belly, and he doesn't do half the lifts anymore that he teaches. By your logic, he should be ignored. Whatever OP.
  • oregonzoo
    oregonzoo Posts: 4,251 Member
    Who let all the crabby people on today?


    OP I think you foolish. People in worse shape than me have given me plenty of good advice and I don't think myself better than anbody due to my fitness level.
  • rsoice
    rsoice Posts: 212 Member
    Read through some of the derision but understand (to an extent) your point. I'm not going to try to do squats on a balance ball either because somebody saw it on youtube or the azzclown at the gym is doing it. However, I'm open to suggestions because I realize I'm far from perfect or even close to where I want to be. If I were, I wouldn't be here.

    The intent was good, the delivery not so much :ohwell:
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    When you get advice from someone- consider the source. If they don't look healthy they have no place giving fitness advice.
    I raise a hearty middle finger to you, sir. Solid first post.
    :laugh:
  • parkscs
    parkscs Posts: 1,639 Member
    I guess the OP has never had an in-shape bro feed him some broscience. Your current fitness level is really not a great indication of how much you know about exercise science and nutrition. As others have pointed out, a lot of trainers for professional athletes are in worse shape than the professional athletes they're training, some significantly so. That doesn't affect their knowledge though. Your best bet is to take everything you hear with a grain of salt and do your own research.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    from people who are more out of shape than me...

    In today's; "I read it on the internet so it must be right" trend, everyone is a fitness expert and I get sick of people that don't even work out (or do so once in a while) trying to tell me what's best for my workout or physical appearance.

    The truth is this; the FACTS about exercise, nutrition, metabolism, calories etc. Never change. The fads are based purely on misinformation and are intended more on commercialism than health. I have been exercising regularly since I was 14. I've seen trends come and go and they are all the same: "This is the NEW way to lose weight, get healthy, eat right etc."

    There is no "NEW" way. Body physiology does not change with the times. What worked 30 years ago, still works today. What worked 100 years ago still works today. When you get advice from someone- consider the source. If they don't look healthy they have no place giving fitness advice.

    And if you get your "facts" from the internet, back them up with at least 3 other sources. You will often find that the article you read is very one-sided and is not based on anything but anecdotal evidence- which is always flawed.

    really cause 60 years ago leaded gas worked great...should we use it today?
    60 years ago asbestos was great...should we use it now?
    100 years ago there were no cells phones does that mean we shouldn't use them now?

    Oh and BTW Arnold didn't look great a while ago....I would take fitness advice from him...

    and how do you know how fit people are?

    science evolves we learn more about the human body
  • Shropshire1959
    Shropshire1959 Posts: 982 Member
    Bwhaaaaaaaaaa .. You're going to have to ignore an awful lot of Medical Practitioners then ... so many chunky, smoking wrecks in that profession :-p
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    Dat strawman doe
  • segovm
    segovm Posts: 512 Member
    I guess it depends on what people are looking for. In general I don't hop on internet forums to get medical / training advice. I like chatting with people about the ups and downs of trying to lose weight and get / trade ideas for what's worked well and hasn't. Plus, in general, I do my best to be somewhat positive about stuff and hope others, within their limits, do the same.

    I offer advice that is pretty out of place for a big guy just because I haven't always been big. I lost a lot of weight in my twenties, ate a vegan diet, ran and biked all the time and so I'll comment on the sort of stuff that I have experience with. My advice is twenty years old and only qualifies what worked for me then but there might still be something in there that helps folks or pushes them to find out more.

    I gained weight, like many folks on here, because I stopped caring about fitness as I focused on my career. Priorities change and now I'm working on my body again. A lot of what I did then is still helpful to me now and I am sure other people have similar experiences that I am glad they are willing to share.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    My name is DavPul

    ...and I have no idea what the point of this thread even is
  • azymth99
    azymth99 Posts: 122 Member
    You read an awful lot into my post that wasn't there. If you CHOOSE to be offended by what I said, that's your choice. I was merely saying that there are a lot of people that spout fitness advice without knowing a damn thing about it. My guess is, you're one of those touting the "latest and greatest" fitness craze and my comment hit a nerve.

    If so, touche'.
  • Jacwhite22
    Jacwhite22 Posts: 7,010 Member
    Here is a picture from Diego Maradona a few years ago. Ever heard of him? I would still take any soccer advice he threw my way.....

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  • _KitKat_
    _KitKat_ Posts: 1,066 Member
    So OP, you came to the forum....WHY!?!?


    This post makes you sound like some of the young broscience lifters at my gym, they are always confused when the people that are serious ask a particular older guy at my gym for advice. He may not "look" like it but he out lifts most there, can tell you every muscle, and tell you what it's for, how to work it and anything else you ask. He is friendly, open and has been a lifter since he was 14....he is also still always looking for more knowledge and willing to learn. He is really great if you want to switch it up and replace an exercise with a different one. I am lucky to see him most of the times I work out, he is a great resource. Someone like you seem would write him off....that would be a huge mistake.

    Look most here like rude, condescending, arrogant friends.....there is even a thread for it, but coming to a fitness forum acting like you have nothing to learn and honestly being a judgmental prick serves no purpose. I do thank you for letting us know upfront not to waste our time, if you post a question..... With most noobs it takes us a page or 2 to realize they don't want to hear anyone disagree with them and don't truly want help.

    If you are just lacking social skills and are truly not a ******, then maybe a post to clarify why your first post sounded like one may be in order.

    Time for kitty gifs yet?