Two + Months in, not a pound gone
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Also, you say your resting metabolic rate is 2345, so you're saying you're burning about 850 calories through exercise every day? That's a LOT of exercise. I think your calculations are off; you're overestimating how much you're burning and you're eating too much. That's my opinion.
Understood, but when I wear a tracking device, even on a really active workday, it shows that I burn about 300 calories above my BMR. If that amounts to 2600 and I'm eating 2500, that tiny deficit will be eaten up with any mistake I make in measuring or logging. I think her calorie burn is very overestimated.0 -
What about food allergies or intolerances? I would suggest trying an elimination diet, I am trying one myself. I am Having issues with weight loss, lethargy and joint pain. Only been on it 3weeks but I feel great and have actually lost 4lbs. This may not be your solution but it is worth discussing with your nutritionist. Good luck!0
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I don't think that opening up my diary will help at all. I started out only eating 1300 calories a day, that's what I naturally eat when I eat what I want and don't try to watch what I'm eating (including dessert). I track every bite by weighing with a food scale or measuring with measuring cups and spoons, I never estimate and I always record what I've eaten before I move from the table,so I don't forget anything. I am very serious and dedicated to my weight loss. I'm not an over eater and I'm not a person who thinks they can fudge the numbers and "no one will know." I measure, I weigh and I record.
Opening your diary would allow people to give you specific advice rather than generic advice. If you are asking for help, I'd think you'd prefer specific advice, right?0 -
Are you weighing your food with a food scale?0
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Oh yeah, I should also mention that the first thing my trainer thought was that I might be gaining muscle and losing fat. She said we could tell if that was happening because my measurements would be changing (I carry a lot of weight around the middle), but they have not changed a cm.
Also, if this is what your trainer "thinks" and they're a masters student, I would hire a new trainer.
Here's the thing - even people who are morbidly obese have muscle, they have to have muscle to be able to carry around the extra weight. Your muscles will burn away your fat and the more muscle you have the more you will burn at rest. I have dropped about 20% BF since I started weight training (and I do little cardio) and my BMR is only 2,080. For you, someone who is presumably not weight training in the same capacity, a RMR of 2345 is really really high.
Also, 850 calories/day worth of exercise is a lot! I do spin (when I have cardio days) and an hour of intense spin and I am only just hitting the 700 calorie mark. That's an hour of intense intense work. Doing that much exercise/day is a lot. I recognize that as being big, your body needs more calories to survive and the extent of exercising you feel you can do may be limited but eating 3200 calories on an "exercise" day is really too much, in my experience and opinion0 -
What about food allergies or intolerances? I would suggest trying an elimination diet, I am trying one myself. I am Having issues with weight loss, lethargy and joint pain. Only been on it 3weeks but I feel great and have actually lost 4lbs. This may not be your solution but it is worth discussing with your nutritionist. Good luck!0
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Oh yeah, I should also mention that the first thing my trainer thought was that I might be gaining muscle and losing fat. She said we could tell if that was happening because my measurements would be changing (I carry a lot of weight around the middle), but they have not changed a cm.
Also, if this is what your trainer "thinks" and they're a masters student, I would hire a new trainer.
Here's the thing - even people who are morbidly obese have muscle, they have to have muscle to be able to carry around the extra weight. Your muscles will burn away your fat and the more muscle you have the more you will burn at rest. I have dropped about 20% BF since I started weight training (and I do little cardio) and my BMR is only 2,080. For you, someone who is presumably not weight training in the same capacity, a RMR of 2345 is really really high.
Also, 850 calories/day worth of exercise is a lot! I do spin (when I have cardio days) and an hour of intense spin and I am only just hitting the 700 calorie mark. That's an hour of intense intense work. Doing that much exercise/day is a lot. I recognize that as being big, your body needs more calories to survive and the extent of exercising you feel you can do may be limited but eating 3200 calories on an "exercise" day is really too much, in my experience and opinion0 -
Oh yeah, I should also mention that the first thing my trainer thought was that I might be gaining muscle and losing fat. She said we could tell if that was happening because my measurements would be changing (I carry a lot of weight around the middle), but they have not changed a cm.
Also, if this is what your trainer "thinks" and they're a masters student, I would hire a new trainer.
Here's the thing - even people who are morbidly obese have muscle, they have to have muscle to be able to carry around the extra weight. Your muscles will burn away your fat and the more muscle you have the more you will burn at rest. I have dropped about 20% BF since I started weight training (and I do little cardio) and my BMR is only 2,080. For you, someone who is presumably not weight training in the same capacity, a RMR of 2345 is really really high.
Also, 850 calories/day worth of exercise is a lot! I do spin (when I have cardio days) and an hour of intense spin and I am only just hitting the 700 calorie mark. That's an hour of intense intense work. Doing that much exercise/day is a lot. I recognize that as being big, your body needs more calories to survive and the extent of exercising you feel you can do may be limited but eating 3200 calories on an "exercise" day is really too much, in my experience and opinion
Read it - check!
And yes, I get that now - thanks for the post. However, I still don't get how she can be burning 3,000 - 3,200 calories most days? That's a lot.0 -
Oh yeah, I should also mention that the first thing my trainer thought was that I might be gaining muscle and losing fat. She said we could tell if that was happening because my measurements would be changing (I carry a lot of weight around the middle), but they have not changed a cm.
Also, if this is what your trainer "thinks" and they're a masters student, I would hire a new trainer.
Here's the thing - even people who are morbidly obese have muscle, they have to have muscle to be able to carry around the extra weight. Your muscles will burn away your fat and the more muscle you have the more you will burn at rest. I have dropped about 20% BF since I started weight training (and I do little cardio) and my BMR is only 2,080. For you, someone who is presumably not weight training in the same capacity, a RMR of 2345 is really really high.
Also, 850 calories/day worth of exercise is a lot! I do spin (when I have cardio days) and an hour of intense spin and I am only just hitting the 700 calorie mark. That's an hour of intense intense work. Doing that much exercise/day is a lot. I recognize that as being big, your body needs more calories to survive and the extent of exercising you feel you can do may be limited but eating 3200 calories on an "exercise" day is really too much, in my experience and opinion
Read it - check!
And yes, I get that now - thanks for the post. However, I still don't get how she can be burning 3,000 - 3,200 calories most days? That's a lot.
That's her TDEE as measured by her Body Media Fit. According to her profile she wants to lose 186 lbs.0 -
Oh yeah, I should also mention that the first thing my trainer thought was that I might be gaining muscle and losing fat. She said we could tell if that was happening because my measurements would be changing (I carry a lot of weight around the middle), but they have not changed a cm.
Also, if this is what your trainer "thinks" and they're a masters student, I would hire a new trainer.
Here's the thing - even people who are morbidly obese have muscle, they have to have muscle to be able to carry around the extra weight. Your muscles will burn away your fat and the more muscle you have the more you will burn at rest. I have dropped about 20% BF since I started weight training (and I do little cardio) and my BMR is only 2,080. For you, someone who is presumably not weight training in the same capacity, a RMR of 2345 is really really high.
Also, 850 calories/day worth of exercise is a lot! I do spin (when I have cardio days) and an hour of intense spin and I am only just hitting the 700 calorie mark. That's an hour of intense intense work. Doing that much exercise/day is a lot. I recognize that as being big, your body needs more calories to survive and the extent of exercising you feel you can do may be limited but eating 3200 calories on an "exercise" day is really too much, in my experience and opinion
Read it - check!
And yes, I get that now - thanks for the post. However, I still don't get how she can be burning 3,000 - 3,200 calories most days? That's a lot.
That's her TDEE as measured by her Body Media Fit. According to her profile she wants to lose 186 lbs.
Ok - it just seems like a lot. But if she has 186 lbs to lose then currently she may burn that.0 -
I don't think that opening up my diary will help at all. I started out only eating 1300 calories a day, that's what I naturally eat when I eat what I want and don't try to watch what I'm eating (including dessert). I track every bite by weighing with a food scale or measuring with measuring cups and spoons, I never estimate and I always record what I've eaten before I move from the table,so I don't forget anything. I am very serious and dedicated to my weight loss. I'm not an over eater and I'm not a person who thinks they can fudge the numbers and "no one will know." I measure, I weigh and I record.
If you don't want to open your diary to the public, consider friending a couple of people from this thread and asking them to take a look privately.0 -
Wow! So many responses! You guys are awesome!
I'll try to get all your questions answered.
I do have a lot of weight to lose, that's how I burn so many calories.
The reason I am this big is because I had that adrenal problem and your adrenal glands work together with you thyroid to control your weight. Essentially, it was the same way someone with a thyroid problem gains weight, but it seems dishonest to say that because the problem was in my adrenal glands and not in my thyroid. (as I said, all are back to normal now)
I haven't been tested for any food intolerances or allergies, but I have gone on an elimination diet several times for breastfeeding children who were presenting with food allergies. These lasted weeks, some months and I never saw a difference in my weight then either (though I've never done one for me).
I do eat out a few times a week, and I do record all of that, but vismal made a really good point about the chef not using a scale like I do at home, so I'll cut that out for a few weeks and see if that helps any. I'll also switch to weighing more and using volume measurements only when necessary.
I'm still making my way through the links.
If caloric deficit = weight loss for everyone, always, forever, then I don't understand why I haven't gained since almost doubling my intake. I am exactly the same weight and measurements as I was two months ago (and for the last seven years).
Thanks guys, you are fantastic!0 -
Why the closed diary????0
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If caloric deficit = weight loss for everyone, always, forever, then I don't understand why I haven't gained since almost doubling my intake. I am exactly the same weight and measurements as I was two months ago (and for the last seven years).
When you upped your calorie goal, did you also change the way you were logging? If you went from eyeballing portions, etc to measuring with cups, you might have been at the SAME caloric intake as before. In my honest opinion, whenever someone plateaus, the first step in figuring out the problem is to map out the intake as accurate and precise as possible. That means not ONLY weighing all solids on a food scale AND measuring all liquids in a measuring cup, but ALSO recording the correct entries in your diary.
CICO works for EVERYONE. If it's not working for you, then one side of that equation is off balance. If you are being 100% truthful in your food diary, weighing everything you can, choosing correct entries, and opting to eat back 50-75% of your 'exercise" calories (from the bodymedia), then something is not be accounted for. Whether its you're not burning what you think you're burning - to adjust for this, eat less. Or your consuming things you're not aware of or haven't accounted for - any chance you're sleep eating?
Conservatively, cutting 100-200 calories off your daily calories goal, will increase the deficit on paper and you should see some weight loss. If your bodymedia says you burn 3000 calories on a lazy day, then change your food goal to only 2000 calories and DON'T eat back exercise calories, or only eat back 50% of exercise you purposefully do (i.e. go for a walk, etc). That should be a 2 lb per week rate of loss (1000 calorie daily deficit).0 -
When you upped your calorie goal, did you also change the way you were logging? If you went from eyeballing portions, etc to measuring with cups, you might have been at the SAME caloric intake as before. In my honest opinion, whenever someone plateaus, the first step in figuring out the problem is to map out the intake as accurate and precise as possible. That means not ONLY weighing all solids on a food scale AND measuring all liquids in a measuring cup, but ALSO recording the correct entries in your diary.
CICO works for EVERYONE. If it's not working for you, then one side of that equation is off balance. If you are being 100% truthful in your food diary, weighing everything you can, choosing correct entries, and opting to eat back 50-75% of your 'exercise" calories (from the bodymedia), then something is not be accounted for. Whether its you're not burning what you think you're burning - to adjust for this, eat less. Or your consuming things you're not aware of or haven't accounted for - any chance you're sleep eating?
Conservatively, cutting 100-200 calories off your daily calories goal, will increase the deficit on paper and you should see some weight loss. If your bodymedia says you burn 3000 calories on a lazy day, then change your food goal to only 2000 calories and DON'T eat back exercise calories, or only eat back 50% of exercise you purposefully do (i.e. go for a walk, etc). That should be a 2 lb per week rate of loss (1000 calorie daily deficit).
When I increased my calorie goal I did not change the way I was logging or measuring in any way. I started at 1300, went to 1700 and then up to 2000. I stayed there for a month, then up to 2300 for two weeks, then up to 2500 last week. All of this was by the recommendation of my nutritionist (she is a weight loss specialist). At every one of these caloric intakes my results was exactly the same: no change. I do not eat back any calories. She gives me a total caloric intake to eat every day and that's what I eat regardless of what I burn.0 -
When you upped your calorie goal, did you also change the way you were logging? If you went from eyeballing portions, etc to measuring with cups, you might have been at the SAME caloric intake as before. In my honest opinion, whenever someone plateaus, the first step in figuring out the problem is to map out the intake as accurate and precise as possible. That means not ONLY weighing all solids on a food scale AND measuring all liquids in a measuring cup, but ALSO recording the correct entries in your diary.
CICO works for EVERYONE. If it's not working for you, then one side of that equation is off balance. If you are being 100% truthful in your food diary, weighing everything you can, choosing correct entries, and opting to eat back 50-75% of your 'exercise" calories (from the bodymedia), then something is not be accounted for. Whether its you're not burning what you think you're burning - to adjust for this, eat less. Or your consuming things you're not aware of or haven't accounted for - any chance you're sleep eating?
Conservatively, cutting 100-200 calories off your daily calories goal, will increase the deficit on paper and you should see some weight loss. If your bodymedia says you burn 3000 calories on a lazy day, then change your food goal to only 2000 calories and DON'T eat back exercise calories, or only eat back 50% of exercise you purposefully do (i.e. go for a walk, etc). That should be a 2 lb per week rate of loss (1000 calorie daily deficit).
When I increased my calorie goal I did not change the way I was logging or measuring in any way. I started at 1300, went to 1700 and then up to 2000. I stayed there for a month, then up to 2300 for two weeks, then up to 2500 last week. All of this was by the recommendation of my nutritionist (she is a weight loss specialist). At every one of these caloric intakes my results was exactly the same: no change. I do not eat back any calories. She gives me a total caloric intake to eat every day and that's what I eat regardless of what I burn.0 -
When you upped your calorie goal, did you also change the way you were logging? If you went from eyeballing portions, etc to measuring with cups, you might have been at the SAME caloric intake as before. In my honest opinion, whenever someone plateaus, the first step in figuring out the problem is to map out the intake as accurate and precise as possible. That means not ONLY weighing all solids on a food scale AND measuring all liquids in a measuring cup, but ALSO recording the correct entries in your diary.
CICO works for EVERYONE. If it's not working for you, then one side of that equation is off balance. If you are being 100% truthful in your food diary, weighing everything you can, choosing correct entries, and opting to eat back 50-75% of your 'exercise" calories (from the bodymedia), then something is not be accounted for. Whether its you're not burning what you think you're burning - to adjust for this, eat less. Or your consuming things you're not aware of or haven't accounted for - any chance you're sleep eating?
Conservatively, cutting 100-200 calories off your daily calories goal, will increase the deficit on paper and you should see some weight loss. If your bodymedia says you burn 3000 calories on a lazy day, then change your food goal to only 2000 calories and DON'T eat back exercise calories, or only eat back 50% of exercise you purposefully do (i.e. go for a walk, etc). That should be a 2 lb per week rate of loss (1000 calorie daily deficit).
When I increased my calorie goal I did not change the way I was logging or measuring in any way. I started at 1300, went to 1700 and then up to 2000. I stayed there for a month, then up to 2300 for two weeks, then up to 2500 last week. All of this was by the recommendation of my nutritionist (she is a weight loss specialist). At every one of these caloric intakes my results was exactly the same: no change. I do not eat back any calories. She gives me a total caloric intake to eat every day and that's what I eat regardless of what I burn.
ROTFLMAO now THAT'S funny!0 -
When you upped your calorie goal, did you also change the way you were logging? If you went from eyeballing portions, etc to measuring with cups, you might have been at the SAME caloric intake as before. In my honest opinion, whenever someone plateaus, the first step in figuring out the problem is to map out the intake as accurate and precise as possible. That means not ONLY weighing all solids on a food scale AND measuring all liquids in a measuring cup, but ALSO recording the correct entries in your diary.
CICO works for EVERYONE. If it's not working for you, then one side of that equation is off balance. If you are being 100% truthful in your food diary, weighing everything you can, choosing correct entries, and opting to eat back 50-75% of your 'exercise" calories (from the bodymedia), then something is not be accounted for. Whether its you're not burning what you think you're burning - to adjust for this, eat less. Or your consuming things you're not aware of or haven't accounted for - any chance you're sleep eating?
Conservatively, cutting 100-200 calories off your daily calories goal, will increase the deficit on paper and you should see some weight loss. If your bodymedia says you burn 3000 calories on a lazy day, then change your food goal to only 2000 calories and DON'T eat back exercise calories, or only eat back 50% of exercise you purposefully do (i.e. go for a walk, etc). That should be a 2 lb per week rate of loss (1000 calorie daily deficit).
When I increased my calorie goal I did not change the way I was logging or measuring in any way. I started at 1300, went to 1700 and then up to 2000. I stayed there for a month, then up to 2300 for two weeks, then up to 2500 last week. All of this was by the recommendation of my nutritionist (she is a weight loss specialist). At every one of these caloric intakes my results was exactly the same: no change. I do not eat back any calories. She gives me a total caloric intake to eat every day and that's what I eat regardless of what I burn.
Hilarious!
You know.... duct tape and a sharpie, we can all weigh whatever we want.0 -
HA HA HA! Thanks, I needed a good laugh!0
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HA HA HA! Thanks, I needed a good laugh!
Laughing will keep you sane, especially when dieting. My young daughter once decided she was going to count calories like mommy does. She used an ink pen to alter calorie numbers on all her favorite snacks and tracked them in a notebook for a couple days. When I got a peek at it, she had herself eating snacks to the tune of 50,000 per day. I think she thought the more the better lol0
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