1200 Calorie Diet???? Seriously???

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  • toutmonpossible
    toutmonpossible Posts: 1,580 Member
    Weight loss is trial & error as much as determination and will power. You can not tell me that a 17 stone 5"5 sedentarty woman should be eating the same as a 7 stone 5"5 highly active woman. That is the science fad diets are based on.

    YES, YES you can! The 17 stone woman got to and maintained her weight eating WAY more calories than someone who weighs 140 lbs less than she does! It takes more calories just to maintain a bigger body. The point is that weight loss should not be about, hey, Mr. potential weight loser, you got fat. Now let's punish you by never having you eat whatever got you fat and you can only have chicken breasts and lettuce. The moderate deficit allows them to re-evaluate their food choices if need be, but they'd also be able to fit some of the items they like which got them to their current weight

    It's one thing to say you can't be bothered to eat more, but giving a large person more calories to eat is EXCELLENT science!

    It's about whatever approach helps you lose weight. Some people are more motivated by more rapid loss.
  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,724 Member
    Weight loss is trial & error as much as determination and will power. You can not tell me that a 17 stone 5"5 sedentarty woman should be eating the same as a 7 stone 5"5 highly active woman. That is the science fad diets are based on.

    YES, YES you can! The 17 stone woman got to and maintained her weight eating WAY more calories than someone who weighs 140 lbs less than she does! It takes more calories just to maintain a bigger body. The point is that weight loss should not be about, hey, Mr. potential weight loser, you got fat. Now let's punish you by never having you eat whatever got you fat and you can only have chicken breasts and lettuce. The moderate deficit allows them to re-evaluate their food choices if need be, but they'd also be able to fit some of the items they like which got them to their current weight

    It's one thing to say you can't be bothered to eat more, but giving a large person more calories to eat is EXCELLENT science!

    It's about whatever approach helps you lose weight. Some people are more motivated by more rapid loss.

    Motivation can be fleeting. Without a sustainable approach, long term success can be elusive. She (possibly inadvertently) called a moderate deficit fab science. I was explaining that it wasn't.
  • elsinora
    elsinora Posts: 398 Member
    My daily goal is 1200 and I find it hard to get that many calories in daily! And I am not starving and I feel like I'm eating all the time. I don't eat back calories from walking 5 miles a day and/or the days I work out (3-4 times a week).
    Someone should write a sticky for all these people. Seriously.

    They'll be back on here years later saying they don't know what went wrong and gained the weight back and more.
  • Ive just started this diet and have been on it for a week or so at 1200 calorie intake meeting that goal everytime:) and i have to say i love it :) and it works for me, i never feel hungry,light headed ect. I also horse ride my own two horses and jog 1 mile a nite with 10 squats and 10 crunches, so im giving it the thumbs up ????
  • akern15
    akern15 Posts: 13
    Anything that eliminates mayo sounds dumb.

    Word.
  • hey buddy try out IIFYM.com plus they have a group page on facebook that goes by the same name.. its mostly is about Macro eating tracking your fats, carbs and protein intake... check it out.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    1200 calories isn't enough for my after dinner food (desert). Seriously.
  • mrzmami88
    mrzmami88 Posts: 25 Member
    Im on a 1200 calorie diet and been finding it hard to get up to that much. Maybe I just need to slighlty increase my portions? But I feel good. I do notice when I feel hungry its when my cals r super low. Im only 4'11 so even though I can binge and throw down some food (I usually feel sick if I over eat), if im just eating a regular meal i cant eat that much.
  • ashcat94
    ashcat94 Posts: 8 Member
    I'm 5'4 and have just started on MFP. Beforehand I was eating around 900 cals a day, losing weight, but still feeling a little hungry.
    Since starting, I've upped it to 1200, am still losing weight but more slowly (only have another 10lbs to lose though) and feel awesome.

    I find it funny how taller, more active people are saying that those on a 1200 cal diet must be starving themselves because there's no way that can be healthy/fulfiling. Maybe YOU can't survive everyday on that amount, but I can, because we're different people with different requirements, heights, weights, gender etc.

    I wish we could all bake a cake of smiles and rainbows and just be friends. But we cant. Because this is MFP. And as I've learnt thus far the only thing that everyone agrees on is that no one should agree on anything.....
  • MysteriousDreamer
    MysteriousDreamer Posts: 96 Member
    My daily goal is 1200 and I find it hard to get that many calories in daily! And I am not starving and I feel like I'm eating all the time. I don't eat back calories from walking 5 miles a day and/or the days I work out (3-4 times a week).
    Someone should write a sticky for all these people. Seriously.

    They'll be back on here years later saying they don't know what went wrong and gained the weight back and more.

    Exactly. 1200 is not so,etching you can do for life.
  • MysteriousDreamer
    MysteriousDreamer Posts: 96 Member
    Before exercise I am eating about 1600/1700 calories. I burn about 400 calories a day.

    I am still losing weight, I am losing about 1 kilo (2.2lbs) per week. For me to maintain I will be doing 1800-2000 calories and still exercising.
  • Meerataila
    Meerataila Posts: 1,885 Member
    I'm 5'4 and have just started on MFP. Beforehand I was eating around 900 cals a day, losing weight, but still feeling a little hungry.
    Since starting, I've upped it to 1200, am still losing weight but more slowly (only have another 10lbs to lose though) and feel awesome.

    I find it funny how taller, more active people are saying that those on a 1200 cal diet must be starving themselves because there's no way that can be healthy/fulfiling. Maybe YOU can't survive everyday on that amount, but I can, because we're different people with different requirements, heights, weights, gender etc.

    I wish we could all bake a cake of smiles and rainbows and just be friends. But we cant. Because this is MFP. And as I've learnt thus far the only thing that everyone agrees on is that no one should agree on anything.....

    Don't forget everyone must also be as viciously snotty as they can get away with while disagreeing. Rawr.

    I do fine on 1200, too. No BMI calculator puts my sedentary maintenance for my goal weight at over 1500, so I won't be eating a whole lot more once I hit maintenance, either. And so what? I spent two years eating 3000+ calories every day. Does anyone really think 1750 a day looks like significantly more calories to me than 1450? Please. It's a two bite candy-bar and maybe one of those really small bags of chips. Besides, now that I buy healthy food, my grocery bill is high enough. I don't want to have to eat more!
  • transientcanuck
    transientcanuck Posts: 82 Member
    1200 calories works well for me as a temporary solution AND only if I consume the "right" foods.

    And by "right" foods I mean a balanced diet with plenty of fibre and protein. If I mess up and have some junk food, I am almost always hungry when I finish the day. If I eat loads of veggies, lean meat, beans, and other nutrient-dense foods, then I usually feel full by the time I go to bed.

    I know that as a 63 kg (139 lb) woman at 160 cm (5'3), a 1200-calorie diet places me at eating below my BMR. I know if I continue to eat at 1200 calories in the long run then it would be stressful on my body. However, I'm only eating at 1200 because a) I find it's giving my body the "kick start" it needs, especially after yo-yo dieting for most of my life, and b) my personal trainer recommended this as a start-out point, and once I get to a certain weight I can eat more and focus on maintaining.

    So far it seems to be working. And eating only 1200 calories a day has also completely transformed my eating habits where I would rather spend my calories on healthy, filling foods than empty, sugary snacks. I know everyone's different, but to each their own.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    I'm 5'4 and have just started on MFP. Beforehand I was eating around 900 cals a day, losing weight, but still feeling a little hungry.
    Since starting, I've upped it to 1200, am still losing weight but more slowly (only have another 10lbs to lose though) and feel awesome.

    I find it funny how taller, more active people are saying that those on a 1200 cal diet must be starving themselves because there's no way that can be healthy/fulfiling. Maybe YOU can't survive everyday on that amount, but I can, because we're different people with different requirements, heights, weights, gender etc.

    I wish we could all bake a cake of smiles and rainbows and just be friends. But we cant. Because this is MFP. And as I've learnt thus far the only thing that everyone agrees on is that no one should agree on anything.....

    I'm 5'1 and I think you're starving yourself, I agree with all the taller people - does that make you feel better?

    I eat at least 1600 a day. Oh look - eating more and 3" shorter than you - so that makes me correct according to your logic that if you're taller you're wrong.

    And yeah - you started at 900 so to you 1200 is probably loads of food to you - but you've got it all wrong and are doing more harm than good in the long run - esp with only 10lbs to lose.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1175494-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    Go read this link - maybe you'll learn something.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    Ive just started this diet and have been on it for a week or so at 1200 calorie intake meeting that goal everytime:) and i have to say i love it :) and it works for me, i never feel hungry,light headed ect. I also horse ride my own two horses and jog 1 mile a nite with 10 squats and 10 crunches, so im giving it the thumbs up ????

    Oh yeah - one week in and you say it works for you. Lets give it some time eh? :noway:
  • Chevy_Quest
    Chevy_Quest Posts: 2,012 Member
    This is fairly constructive for a 1200 calorie debate post (really I am not trying to be snarky or ironic :drinker: )

    My opinion is that yes, there are people who have found that 1200 calories is the amount they have to eat to lose weight at a healthy pace. However, I suspect that at least 50% of the people who are trying to eat 1200 to lose weight (especially someone who weighs currently over 180 lbs) can eat more and still continue to lose weight at a healthy pace.

    Do I have evidence... only the evidence from successful posts, All I can offer is my own experience. Now I understand that this is only 2 months of data. But I hope to comeback to this post in 2 more months with an update. Here is my experience.

    TL:DR - I net between 1700-2100 calories per day and I am losing 2-3 lbs per month.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1341254-not-new-but-enjoying-the-journey-and-not-starving-myself

    We are all here for the same thing to get healthier... let's keep reading, even people with differing opinions. :smile:
  • BoxerBrawler
    BoxerBrawler Posts: 2,032 Member
    I go for around 1200 a day and that works for me, and has worked for me for over a year. But I also cycle so a few days a month I eat over and then go back down. I eat clean but I don't restrict myself from a decadent dessert or dinner out now and then so long as it fits in my calories for the day. I just make sure to plan out my meals and snacks and I order accordingly when I eat out. I also bring some of my own food items and healthy snacks when I'm going to someones place for dinner or whatever.

    Bottom line is just do what works for you and your life style. This isn't a diet. Everyone has to just find something that is realistic, attainable and sustainable. Folks who have been at it for a while know that it takes a lot of trial and error and tweaking month to month or even week to week and just when you find the "right" thing that works for you... you have to change it up to keep it going.

    It's a process and there is no blue print that works for everyone.

    What bothers me is that many folks have decided that a computer program is better than actually listening to their own bodies.

    It's awesome and so very helpful to track calories and macro's and have this place as a guide for nutrition and support but truly... listen to your body. Feed it when it's hungry, when it's "real" hunger, not just a craving or out of boredom or habit.

    Just my opinion. I can't say what works for anyone else, I only know what has worked for me.

    Instead of bashing each other we should be open minded individuals... we all have really good tricks, tips, advice and real life experience we could share with each other but I guess it's more fun to be opinionated and stubborn. We are only human...
  • Where are all of the 1200 calorie people weight wise now? I'm new to MFP and just found this thread. Every person I've ever known to restrict to such a degree always regained the pounds, and they brought friends.
  • Cant everyone just agree that what works for one person doesnt necessarily work for another, I encountered a rather opinionated woman yesterday who swears by low carb, high protein and high fat, well thats not for me but 1200 a day isnt for her, i find being strict with myself works and suits me, what she does suits her. Each to their own
  • Ludka13
    Ludka13 Posts: 136 Member
    Some of us are short petite females. Even at 1200 calories we lose less than a pound a week.
  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,724 Member
    Some of us are short petite females. Even at 1200 calories we lose less than a pound a week.

    Based on the goal in your ticker, unless you told MFP more weight per week than your body weight can realistically lose (1.5 or 2 lbs for example), I would suspect that number could be higher
  • Ludka13
    Ludka13 Posts: 136 Member
    Some of us are short petite females. Even at 1200 calories we lose less than a pound a week.

    Based on the goal in your ticker, unless you told MFP more weight per week than your body weight can realistically lose (1.5 or 2 lbs for example), I would suspect that number could be higher

    The number in my ticker is not right. I tried losing weight a year ago, lost some, then put it back on and some more. When I started again this year I couldn't reset my starting weight. I've actually lost more than is reflected there.
  • ewarren1985
    ewarren1985 Posts: 1 Member
    bygblu21 wrote: »
    I'm fairly new to this forum and am really surprised at how many people on here are starving themselves to lose weight. Weight loss is not a sprint its a marathon. Its something that should happen over time, not within a few weeks. Weight loss is more than just limiting your caloric intake. Its a combination of eating clean and healthy ( I hate the word diet) and exercising on a daily basis. Starving yourself is not a healthy way to lose weight and by limiting your caloric intake to 1200 or so calories is doing just that. Not only is it unhealthy, but its a process that you will never stick to because its not natural and uncomfortable to do. So lets be serious and talk about how to lose weight realistically.

    I would first ask yourself, "why do I want to lose weight?' Is it for appearance? Is it to be more healthy? Is it to be able to make it up that flight of steps without getting tired? Once you understand your own reasoning you can then move forward and begin your weight loss journey, because after all that's what it should be, a journey not a short trip. Once you've realized your goal and the reason for it you need to make the biggest decision of all, and that's to commit to yourself and commit to achieving your goal of losing weight and living a healthier lifestyle.

    So now you've made the decision to put your health first; now what? Lets start with your eating habits. What do you eat? When do you eat it? and how often are you eating? Your body is a very complex machine but by following some simple rules about eating, you can have it running very efficiently. Follow these few simple rules and you'll see and feel the difference in your energy level.
    -Start every day with an 8oz. glass of lemon water
    -Monitor your portions- you should be eating small portion meals throughout the day rather than one, two or three large portioned meals a day
    -Drink water, all day long
    -Focus on lean proteins like chicken, turkey, salmon etc. and I don't mean processed cold-cuts...
    -Focus on eating fresh vegetables, steamed when possible
    -Limit unnecessary condiments i.e. mayonnaise, oils, salt etc.
    -Limit, but don't restrict carbohydrates. Complex carbs are needed by your body
    -Dairy is ok but in limited portions and should be kept to low fat dairy. Greek yogurt is a good choice.
    -Fresh fruit should be kept to 1 or 2 pieces a day. Its high in sugar and you should be limiting your sugar

    This si just a guide to go by. Your food intake should be directly related to your physical activity. Exercise is key but that's a whole other topic....

    So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!

    I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:

    1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
    2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
    3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
    4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
    5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
    6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
    7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
    8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
    9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
    10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook

    On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)

    Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."

    All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.

    In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!
  • gothchiq
    gothchiq Posts: 4,590 Member
    If you were five three, female with a busted thyroid, and 46 years old, you would eat 1200 just like I do and you would lose a pound every 3 weeks on it just like I do. Not everyone is young, healthy, and/or male.
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  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    bygblu21 wrote: »
    I'm fairly new to this forum and am really surprised at how many people on here are starving themselves to lose weight. Weight loss is not a sprint its a marathon. Its something that should happen over time, not within a few weeks. Weight loss is more than just limiting your caloric intake. Its a combination of eating clean and healthy ( I hate the word diet) and exercising on a daily basis. Starving yourself is not a healthy way to lose weight and by limiting your caloric intake to 1200 or so calories is doing just that. Not only is it unhealthy, but its a process that you will never stick to because its not natural and uncomfortable to do. So lets be serious and talk about how to lose weight realistically.

    I would first ask yourself, "why do I want to lose weight?' Is it for appearance? Is it to be more healthy? Is it to be able to make it up that flight of steps without getting tired? Once you understand your own reasoning you can then move forward and begin your weight loss journey, because after all that's what it should be, a journey not a short trip. Once you've realized your goal and the reason for it you need to make the biggest decision of all, and that's to commit to yourself and commit to achieving your goal of losing weight and living a healthier lifestyle.

    So now you've made the decision to put your health first; now what? Lets start with your eating habits. What do you eat? When do you eat it? and how often are you eating? Your body is a very complex machine but by following some simple rules about eating, you can have it running very efficiently. Follow these few simple rules and you'll see and feel the difference in your energy level.
    -Start every day with an 8oz. glass of lemon water
    -Monitor your portions- you should be eating small portion meals throughout the day rather than one, two or three large portioned meals a day
    -Drink water, all day long
    -Focus on lean proteins like chicken, turkey, salmon etc. and I don't mean processed cold-cuts...
    -Focus on eating fresh vegetables, steamed when possible
    -Limit unnecessary condiments i.e. mayonnaise, oils, salt etc.
    -Limit, but don't restrict carbohydrates. Complex carbs are needed by your body
    -Dairy is ok but in limited portions and should be kept to low fat dairy. Greek yogurt is a good choice.
    -Fresh fruit should be kept to 1 or 2 pieces a day. Its high in sugar and you should be limiting your sugar

    This si just a guide to go by. Your food intake should be directly related to your physical activity. Exercise is key but that's a whole other topic....

    So... Funny thing that I found this today while utilizing MFP to log my progress on my weight loss journey!

    I am currently under the care of weight loss doctor - a qualified medical professional - and was specifically instructed to limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories, as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men). I was also given the following instructions:

    1. Eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner
    2. Limit your daily calories (women 1200 men 1500)
    3. Try to avoid excessive snacking between meals
    4. Allow yourself to experience hunger between meals and small snacks. Feeling hungry during weight loss and everyday life/schedules is normal and healthy.
    5. Limit carbohydrates to breakfast. The reason for this is that your body can easily burn the carbs off during the course of the day AND most of the reason that women retain "water weight" is because the carbohydrates stored in their bodies act like sponges and soak it all up.
    6. If you need to snack, choose wisely (fruits, low fat yogurts, hard-boiled egg, small salad with dressing on the side)
    7. Dinner should be your lightest meal of the day and breakfast your largest, but do what works for you
    8. Find something other than food to soothe yourself
    9. Make sure that meals are eaten at the table - not in front of the tv, in the bedroom, etc.
    10. Use a Lean Cuisine for a meal if you are in a rush or too tired to cook

    On top of that, I was given the advice that studies have shown that people who consume 25 grams of fiber on a daily basis, lose weight. You get 25 grams of fiber by consuming between 5 & 10 servings of fruits and vegetables throughout the day. Therefore, if you get hungry between meals, have a serving of fruit (banana, orange, handful of grapes, bing cherries, sliced apples, etc.)

    Last tip he gave me: Learn to eat slowly so your body has time to catch up with your brain about when you are actually full/satisfied as opposed to "stuffed."

    All in all, I'm FAR from being an expert on the subject (obviously evident by the fact that I went to a qualified medical professional that IS an expert on the subject), but I feel pretty confident in listening to what was conveyed to me above by my doctor.

    In summary, what he tells hundreds of people everyday that leads to successful weight loss that doesn't come back completely contradicts the nonsense you listed! Also, I really feel that some of those choices and options differ depending on the person and their circumstances. At the end of the day, it's whatever works for you and keeps you strong enough to get where you want to be and stay there!

    your doctor is I-N-S-A-N-E!!! I'm eating 1674 calories and I'm losing!!!!!

    And no, your doctor IS NOT an expert on the subject. FIND A NEW DOCTOR!!!!!

    ^^^This, and
    limit my daily caloric intake to 1200 calories as that is the medically recognized amount of calories needed for most women's weight loss (it is 1500 calories for men).

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  • Chaotic_Weevil
    Chaotic_Weevil Posts: 199 Member
    I like the part where everything is totally made up.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    Man, I missed this thread. Stupid gifs, lots of ANGRY, ADAMANT CAPS... and now...

    caps with H-Y-P-H-E-N-S!!!!!1!

    OMG, someone's doctor told them 1200 was safe?!?! The nerve!! The moron!! Get a rope! He doesn't know what *I* know! Let me save you, you who knows not that he needs saved! Do I have evidence that 1200 isn't safe? Well, no... but I have CAPS and CONVICTION!

    :D



  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    Man, I missed this thread. Stupid gifs, lots of ANGRY, ADAMANT CAPS... and now...

    caps with H-Y-P-H-E-N-S!!!!!1!

    OMG, someone's doctor told them 1200 was safe?!?! The nerve!! The moron!! Get a rope! He doesn't know what *I* know! Let me save you, you who knows not that he needs saved! Do I have evidence that 1200 isn't safe? Well, no... but I have CAPS and CONVICTION!

    :D



    Um.....that's not what was said. Big difference between 1200 is safe and 1200 is the medically recognized amount needed for most women's weight loss. Needed and Most being the operatives in that statement.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    No one says it cant work for someone. They say it cant work for everyone. Hope this helps.

    In this forum, the argument usually is stated in the opposite direction: that 1200 calories is too little for anyone. That's untrue and works to the detriment of many people.

    I disagree with your analysis of how this is "usually" stated.

    Y'know, I was afraid to open this thread because I thought for sure it was 90%+ people decrying the horrors of 1200 calorie starvation. So I was pleasantly surprised to see it's more like the other way! So I guess I agree with you both. Usually, or historically, this place has treated 1200 like it's anorexia. But people seem to have loosened up.

    The part that burns me is it's usually men claiming the horrors of 1200. Men who don't need to worry about it because they have the BMR that they can lose 2 lbs/week and not get near it. A lot of us have to hover around 1200 to lose 1 lb/week. Which is not a bad thing, only when people act like we're crash dieting or idiots or something for daring to risk our precious LBM instead of spending six months losing 10 lbs. 'the healthy way', i.e., their way.
    Yup.

    For some, 1200 is much too low. For others, 1200 means losing .5 - 1 pound a week.

    Telling someone who loses a pound or less a week that they need to add 25% more calories is silly.

    Everyone is different.

    There is no One, True Way for everyone.