Who knew sexism in churches still exists.

I think you're a wee bit too sensitive.

This....

if there is a God, i do not think he would be inclined to answer prayers.

there is no point in building a complex simulation, and then changing things just because the subjects there in are not happy lol

Sexism in church? Shocking!

“Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent." - Timothy 2:11

“…the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.” 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

“Wives, be submissive to your husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands.” Ephesians 5:21-24

“….and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be sensible, chaste, domestic, kind, and submissive to their husbands, that the word of God may not be discredited…. Bid slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect…” Titus 2:4-9

Okay, I haven't come across these in my Bible reading. I definitely would never have survived in those times. But I will say that no church I know follows these. No one expects women to be silent and ask questions at home only. Women preachers are just as successful as the men. Joyce Meyer, anyone? And the thing about being submissive to your husband. It's not literal, there's a meaning to that.

Not unless you're in the Mormon church! LOL

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/06/23/kate_kelly_founder_of_ordain_women_excommunicated_by_the_mormon_church.html

Uhhh jusst look at women not being allowed to become priests in the Catholic Church. If that isn't blatant sexism in a religion, I don't know what is.

I've always disagreed 100% with Catholicism. Protestant all the way!

How can you disagree 100% with Catholicism and still be a Protestant? Catholics are Christians and so to disagree 100% with Catholicism, you'd have to disagree with all the teachings of Christianity. If you disagree with all the teachings of Christianity, wouldn't that make you a Satanist?

Haha, you got me. So maybe I don't disagree 100% with Catholicism. Hyperbole on my part. But I do disagree with some of the basic foundations of Catholicism, which does make me a Christian Protestant and definitely not a Satanist. And I think that not everyone who does disagree with all the teachings of Christianity automatically qualifies to be a Satanist. There are some Atheists in this thread, who are neither Christians nor Satanists.

I was being facetious with the Satanist comment. :bigsmile: sorry about that. I've known Satanists and people who would be considered to be Satanists by most Christians even though they don't call themselves that, and I agree, they don't disagree 100% with Christianity. There is a lot of common ground even between Christians and Satanists.

I was being serious about the rest of the comment... people should be careful what they say, because you can end up saying things you don't actually mean at all.

Over the years I've been friends with quite a lot of Catholics, Protestants, Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims, and found them all to be very nice people, and good Christians or Muslims. And the same about pretty much all the people of other religions I've met over the years, including Pagans and Satanists (among many others). There are extremists of all different religions and I hate the whole extremism mentality, but the vast majority of every religious population are not like that, they're nice people who follow the same basic rules about being nice, and a few others that vary according to religion such as whether or not they eat pork. Anyway, I guess my point is that religions (and non-religion) have far more in common than they have differences, and they're all basically nice people, apart from the (unfortunately very vocal) minority of extremists. I think emphasising the sameness between religions (and non-religion!) is important in combatting extremism.

I think you're a wee bit too sensitive.

I thought so too at first but the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced it's wrong. It's sticking to the old stereotypes of men are the pillars and providers, and women are the homemakers. But anyone can be both. It's fair game these days.

Do you think women should play against men in the NFL? Instead of being cheerleaders? Since they are strong and not just pretty? Just curious....

My beliefs that have no basis in fact are better than your beliefs that have no basis in fact

that sums up pretty much any religious argument, or argument concerning the existance of God

In before the lock!

Oh man. I think you should do a bit more reading. Leviticus would be an excellent place to start. There are many things in there you will find shocking.

What could you possibly find objectionable in the notion that a rape victim be forced to marry the perpetrator?

Or that a woman on her period must take a dove to temple for sacrifice since she is "unclean"?

Seriously. What the hell is wrong with dirty womenz?

It's a church whose teachings are based on the Bible. Not sure why you expected gender equality.

Hypothetical scenario: you have two cups. One cup is a tall drinking glass, another is a beautiful, precious piece of porcelain. Which do you use to drink water every day? Which do you use for a special occasion? Are they equal? They both hold liquids. They can both do the same things. But still, there is an undeniable difference between the two.

don't think this does anything to smooth of gender issues within the bible lol

My beliefs that have no basis in fact are better than your beliefs that have no basis in fact

that sums up pretty much any religious argument, or argument concerning the existance of God

Yup

Sorry to disappoint, but I won't be dragged into a pointless argument with a stranger over the internet. Have yourself a wonderful day.

Umm..what? Then maybe you shouldn't be posting on a public forum. You chose two highly volatile topics and so what did you expect? Everyone to agree with you and tell you how right and awesome you are for pointing this out?