Fruit = sugar ... arghh!!

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Pepper your angus.

was in a trader joe's yesterday, and couldn't resist a few of the deals on fruit...got some cherries, some apricots, and some blueberries... at the counter I off had just noted, "wow, I got a lot of fruit"....the clerk, in response, said "a lot of sugar". This took me by surprise, but I just replied "oh, we're not going to start counting the sugar in fruit are we?" . She looked at me, and said dryly "YOU should" ( with an emphasis on the "You". Lol, she was a little overweight herself, and I am of course a bit over weight, but just WOW. I wanted to reply back that "it wasn't eating fruit that got you and me in this shape lady"

and that is still my thoughts...I actively try to get a few servings of fruit in my diet to keep me sane (plus...fruit!!). google doesn't solve this. even myfitnesspal counts the sugar as too high. so what I should just eat broccoli and chicken and water right? I guess that's what it means.

I would have went straight to her boss.

Agree!!! I would complain, no one has the right to say things like that to other people. And they might give you some vouchers as goodwill!! lol

You know what else insulin does? Helps trigger storage of fat.

How's the job at Trader Joe's going?

I actually have to mindfully choose to eat fruit. I need the vitamins and carbs.

I run, I need carbs.

I also have a daily allotment of dark chocolate I have to work in. For the iron.

I love you. Can we marry?

You know what else insulin does? Helps trigger storage of fat.

No it doesn't. Insulin drives glycogen production, shuttles nutrients (including glucose) into muscles and organs, and roughly 100 other regulatory functions. Fat storage is simply a matter of caloric surplus vs caloric deficit.

Correct. Fat is only produced after you have leftover glucose and your body can no longer use it for immediate energy and glycogen stores are at their full maximum. Then a different whole process takes over WAYYYYY after the insulin stage, a process that shuffles this glucose into your adipose to produce fat storage. That means it boils down to eating wayyyyy to many calories period. Fruit can do that. Candy bars can do that. Potatoes can do that. Even brown rice can do that. It depends what you ate and by how much the entire day and how much activity you gotten in.

My extreme limiting of carbohydrates and sugar is going REALLY well for me, actually - thanks for asking.

My chronic acid reflux is gone. My insomnia is gone. My acne is gone. My hair and nails are stronger. My poor circulation is no longer a problem. I no longer want to take a nap halfway through the day.

Dietary sugar and carbs are not necessary for health. Your body can create the necessary blood glucose for bodily functions from dietary protein.

The human body would be a real piece of **** if it hadn't evolved a metabolic pathway for dealing with carbohydrate restriction. (Which, before agriculture, was about 85% of the year)

You know what else insulin does? Helps trigger storage of fat.

No it doesn't. Insulin drives glycogen production, shuttles nutrients (including glucose) into muscles and organs, and roughly 100 other regulatory functions. Fat storage is simply a matter of caloric surplus vs caloric deficit.

Correct. Fat is only produced after you have leftover glucose and your body can no longer use it for immediate energy and glycogen stores are at their full maximum. Then a different whole process takes over WAYYYYY after the insulin stage, a process that shuffles this glucose into your adipose to produce fat storage. That means it boils down to eating wayyyyy to many calories period. Fruit can do that. Candy bars can do that. Potatoes can do that. Even brown rice can do that. It depends what you ate and by how much the entire day and how much activity you gotten in.

I don't know crap about biochem outside the respiration cycle, but I sure can kick off the argument on MFP!

You know what else insulin does? Helps trigger storage of fat.

No it doesn't. Insulin drives glycogen production, shuttles nutrients (including glucose) into muscles and organs, and roughly 100 other regulatory functions. Fat storage is simply a matter of caloric surplus vs caloric deficit.

In a person with insulin resistance, insulin does cause fat storage.

Mamma says "Sugar is the devil!"

I think you should write a letter (yes a snail mail letter) to her manager. They will take it very, very seriously.

If you don't know her name, mention when you were there (date and time) and if you remember which isle, mention that too. Or describe her so they know who to reprimand.

Since I move to North America, I am amazed at all the controversy about sugar...

Sugar is not necesarily bad for you. First it depends what type of sugar, because sugar is not sugar.

Glucose is a sugar and is a molecule easily absorbed by the body. Saccharose is a molecule a bit bigger but that can also be absorbed without too much trouble by the body.

The problem arise when you start dealing with more complexe sugar molecult, like lactose.

Fructose, like glucose is a monosaccharide sugar that is, like glucose, directly absorbed into the bloodstream.
Element like high fructose corn syrup are though a problem. because it is not natural.

In the end, all sugar molecule that are too complex to be assimilated by the body will be broken down into glucose.

Doesn't hurt to know a bit of chemistry

Actually, the simplier the sugar, the more potential "harm" to someone trying to budget their calories.

The simplier the sugar, the easier it is for the body to metabolise it into the bloodstream and use for energy. (Great if you are in the middle of running a marathon btw). But if you are watching your calories, that means your body doesn't burn as much calories trying to metabolize that sugar molecule.

On the contrary, the more complex the sugar, the harder your body has to work to make it energy. Thus the body actually burns more calories trying to make that energy. Great for someone who is trying to burn more calories so they can eat the same amount. Also, the more complex the sugar, the slower it will get into the bloodstream. The more time you get that "full sensation" and the longer stream of energy supply from the time you put that sugar into your mouth.

Sorry to burst your bubbles up in here, but sugar is sugar.

Your body does not say "Oh, well THIS sugar came from an APPLE, so I'm going to treat it differently than if it had come from a CANDY BAR".

It's still sugar. It still rots your teeth. It still stimulates the production of insulin.

Fruit these days is absolutely ridiculous and has been bred over years and years to be more packed with sugar and less packed with fiber.

The only outliers in this tend to be berries. They have sugar, but are still primarily fiber, and can be eaten in moderation. If you're worried about your vitamins and minerals, eat more non-starchy vegetables.

Fruits are mostly useless, and are a common trigger for people to over consume because they think "Oh, it's FRUIT! It must be healthy!". But your body goes "Oh, it's SUGAR! Give me more SUGAR!" and pretty soon you're craving any ol' sweet thing.

You know what else insulin does? Helps trigger storage of fat.

Seriously, are you here to troll?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3894001

Most notably the part that reads: These experiments show that elevations in insulin produce increased hunger, heightened perceived pleasantness of sweet taste, and increased food intake.

You know what increases insulin levels? Eating simple sugars.

You know what insulin does? Helps trigger muscle development.

Not sure where you get that. My understanding is it regulates the metabolism of fat and carbohydrates. Specifically, insulin stop you from burning fat. Maybe Wikipedia needs to be updated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin

Eat all the fruit, all of the time!

I eat probably between 3 & 8 lots of fruit a day. So far today I've had a banana, 100g of mango & a nectarine. Will probably have some raspberries and/or pineapple before the day is over.