Kind of Upset
bcl003
Posts: 331 Member
I love MFP for the community, it is a place where I can ask questions and get great answers. If I want I can keep track of my calories, but a lot of the time for me it is having other people to talk to about fitness and health that I don't have in my physical life. What is upsetting me is while trying to look up a beach body program on here that a lot of people have been trying and seeing all the negative comments. Why is it so bad to try something different that may work for you and try to find like minded people on a site you have grown to know and love? I like MFP and want to find support on here because I'm not into all the beach body hype of their website, but I don't want to get belittled because I am trying a new program. This program (the 21 day fix) gets bashed for the name (which I understand they could have come up with a better name than fix) or because people think everyone should bust out the scale and weigh and measure everything, or because people just hate beach body. I want to use this program because I am busy! I have a 3 yr old, a husband, I work full time, I am attending 1 school full time for accounting and I am working on my real estate license, I also have to complete the normal mundane tasks of running a household like laundry, dishes, paying the bills, making sure everyone is where they are supposed to be etc. The 21 day fix makes life easy, you grab the proper container for what you are about to eat, pop in as much food fits that container, put it on the plate and go. I am visual so the quick color process is great. I am also getting better at eating clean through this program which other things have not done for me. Why is this horrible? If it is working for someone, helping them reach their goals and teaching them a new lifestyle then what is the problem? Yes calorie counting is a major part of this site but a ton of people don't even use what mfp sets for them because they are counting macros and using the tdee methods. I think those are great ways of doing this get healthy thing, but I need help with portion control. The 21df is training me to get parts of all food groups and is actually getting me closer to the calories and macros set out for me when I tried setting myself up for it using the tdee method. So again why do people have to bash something that is helping people get to a better place in their lives involving their daily diets? Sorry for the rant I know its long and drawn out, but it just upsets me seeing all the bashing in these forums.
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just because generally programs like beachbody are big money grabs. you have all you need to get into shape for free
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People "bash" fad diets like 21 Day Fix because they're not sustainable. What happens after 21 days? It won't teach you how to make healthy lifestyle changes. Also, the negative comments are trying to save people money; you can lose weight and become healthy without spending an arm and a leg. Lastly, the experienced users on here want people to know that weight loss is slow and gradual. You have to be patient. Fad diets set up unrealistic expectations of quick weight loss, when in reality the process is something which requires a lot of patience. We're trying to save people from crash and yo yo dieting. Not trying to be Negative Nancies.0
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People don't like Beachbody because it's ridiculously expensive, and they're sick of being harassed by coaches lying about products to make a few bucks off of them. If you want to try it and have the money, go for it, but you don't have to spend all of that cash to lose weight.0
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You need to just ignore it. Ultimately your diet choices are yours to live with and it doesn't matter what strangers on the internet say about it. Convincing people who are so invested in their own point of view that they feel motivated to belittle others isn't possible on an online forum. For some people this message board is an anonymous platform to use for engaging in negative behaviors most of us recognize from high school. Other people are incredible helpful and really desire discussion and to support those around them. You have to learn to assign value to the comments of others so you can weigh them appropriately. If the comment is not valuable to you don't become defensive or try to argue the person into being on your side just ignore it. Giving your attention only to those who are behaving respectfully is a good way to deprive those looking for a fight, reaction or debate of what they want.0
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its a total waste of money, that's why. Cant you just go to the store and buy your own containers and maybe a scale and measuring cups? You can get all that at the dollar store for under 5 bucks. I dont see what the magic is all about. And those Beach Body "coaches" will tell you anything to buy their crap. They dont care about you, they care about making their quota. But good luck to you if that's what you choose to do.0
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People don't like Beachbody because it's ridiculously expensive, and they're sick of being harassed by coaches lying about products to make a few bucks off of them. If you want to try it and have the money, go for it, but you don't have to spend all of that cash to lose weight.
This..and holy wall of text over...please next time you rant break it up into paragraphs...0 -
Is this a mean people thread on a Friday?
ETA: OP post sounds like a testimonial.0 -
I want to use this program because I am busy! I have a 3 yr old, a husband, I work full time, I am attending 1 school full time for accounting and I am working on my real estate license, I also have to complete the normal mundane tasks of running a household like laundry, dishes, paying the bills, making sure everyone is where they are supposed to be etc.
The fact that we are so busy is one good reason to avoid the hype and fad diets. For weight loss to stick and healthy living to become sustainable, we have to make it a part of our daily routine, no matter how busy things already are. I also have a full time job, am in school full time, have two kids, two dogs, and a husband who is visually impaired and can't drive, leaving all the errands and bill-paying and running everybody to various appointments to guess who? Me. But that's just life. You deal with it, and if you want to make changes and better yourself, you're much better off doing things the hard way versus the easy way if you want those changes to be permanent ones.0 -
Personally, I am not a fan. You cannot "fix" anything in 21 days. Eat better, move more, make better choices period!
Your wallet will thank you as well!
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Why do you care?
Join a Beachbody group here, or go to one of the many Beachbody boards,and get the support you crave. It's out there.
Everyone isn't going to like everything. Hell I've lost over 110 lbs without calorie counting, and using intermittent fasting for most of that weight loss, and I get flack on here from people who seem downright personally insulted my methods, butthurt because I didn't shift that weigh their way. Have a good laugh at folks who are too affected by your road and MOVE ON!0 -
People don't like Beachbody because it's ridiculously expensive, and they're sick of being harassed by coaches lying about products to make a few bucks off of them. If you want to try it and have the money, go for it, but you don't have to spend all of that cash to lose weight.
This..and holy wall of text over...please next time you rant break it up into paragraphs...
Wall of text crits for over 9000!!!!!
Seriously thou. No more blocks of text please. :happy:
I like Beachbody workouts, but refuse to buy any of their overpriced products. I can get or make the same things for much cheaper at the store. And I torrent the workouts. Much easier0 -
People don't like Beachbody because it's ridiculously expensive, and they're sick of being harassed by coaches lying about products to make a few bucks off of them. If you want to try it and have the money, go for it, but you don't have to spend all of that cash to lose weight.
This..and holy wall of text over...please next time you rant break it up into paragraphs...
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can someone TLDR this for me?
its friday and im easily distracted. i got to word 16 and noped out.0 -
It's your money, and Beach Body isn't a bad way to kick start your summer exercise program. So ignore the naysayers and rock on.0
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can someone TLDR this for me?
its friday and im easily distracted. i got to word 16 and noped out.
She wants to do a Beachbody program (21 day fix) and doesn't like that people around here aren't fans of Beachbody.0 -
Actually after the 21 days you should be able to tell what a proper portion is without the containers and you should be trained to eating an all encompassing diet daily. I normally forget to eat fruits or enough protein and this program is helping remind me to do that.
It's not that people are mean per say, it's just that why are they trying to tear down someone who is doing what they feel is best for them?
It's not a fad diet, its real food just properly portioned and a daily workout that gets a person into the habit of eating healthy food correctly and exercising. What is making this a fad diet the food or the workouts?
Oh and is this better with the paragraphs?0 -
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I like the workout programs beachbody has but that's about it. Beachbody gets a bad rep here because of the coaches who friend people and then try to push products on them. I've actually seen programs like Insanity, T25, & P90X recommended here. They are great programs if you can afford them. I own Rockin' Body, but you will never see me buying any of their supplements or shakeology.
There are several things that people get hung up on with the 21 Day Fix.
First, its name. There are people who will buy it because they think it will make them lose weight in 21 days. I think though the name is supposed to imply the "21 days" it takes to create a new habit. With this program, I think the new habit is supposed to be healthy eating and exercise. I definitely don't buy into the before and after pictures they have on their site. In fact in tiny print at the bottom it says results achieved with continued use of the program. In other words, the before and after pictures aren't really 21 days apart.
Second, it does seem like over priced plastic tubs with a few workout dvds. I understand the tubs are to help you learn portions, but I'm sure other people see it as cheaper to buy plastic tubs from say walmart and portion food out that way.
Overall though, if you have the money, then go for it if you think it will work for you. I honestly don't really see anything wrong with the product itself. Some of the items may seem unnecessary to me and others, but if you think they will help you then go for it. I do think beachbody is very misleading with it's before and after pictures. Most of them on the site are after several rounds of a program, but they try to get you to believe that it is only 1 round (having a tiny disclaimer for those who notice).0 -
can someone TLDR this for me?
its friday and im easily distracted. i got to word 16 and noped out.
She wants to do a Beachbody program (21 day fix) and doesn't like that people around here aren't fans of Beachbody.
so then i guess she should just do it and move on with her life.
glad i didnt waste my precious time on all that.
good luck on your journey OP! :flowerforyou:0 -
Paragraphs please that was very difficult to read!
Beachbody do good programs (I did Insanity myself) but 21 days is too short for you to lose much fat as opposed to water weight and to give you healthy habits going forwards. I guess that's why people didn't like it.0 -
Actually after the 21 days you should be able to tell what a proper portion is without the containers and you should be trained to eating an all encompassing diet daily. I normally forget to eat fruits or enough protein and this program is helping remind me to do that.
It's not that people are mean per say, it's just that why are they trying to tear down someone who is doing what they feel is best for them?
It's not a fad diet, its real food just properly portioned and a daily workout that gets a person into the habit of eating healthy food correctly and exercising. What is making this a fad diet the food or the workouts?
Oh and is this better with the paragraphs?
What people tear down are the coaches here always trying to sell their stuff.
What's wrong with also suggesting people learn how to do something that's actually sustainable? Maybe you are learning about proper portion size and macros/etc. A lot of people don't take the time and that is what the company wants, for someone to keep buying into it.
ETA: and yes, paragraphs are better. Thank you.0 -
Actually after the 21 days you should be able to tell what a proper portion is without the containers and you should be trained to eating an all encompassing diet daily. I normally forget to eat fruits or enough protein and this program is helping remind me to do that.
It's not that people are mean per say, it's just that why are they trying to tear down someone who is doing what they feel is best for them?
It's not a fad diet, its real food just properly portioned and a daily workout that gets a person into the habit of eating healthy food correctly and exercising. What is making this a fad diet the food or the workouts?
Oh and is this better with the paragraphs?
MFP shows you an easier and simpler(not to mention healthier and cheaper) way to do it, so a lot of people don't take to kindly to gimmicks.
Which is what beachbody is.
IF you want to pay more than you need to, have at it.
But don't expect pats on the back.0 -
In for a Friday 'meanie pants" thread. Oh, and cuz I love it...... In for boobies, too...
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I think I just read a sales pitch.0
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You can select the ignore option for users who seem to consistently bash.
I personally find some of the attitudes on this website to be overly aggressive or with a sense of superiority. Just don't reply to them if they are being sarcastic to you!0 -
I have no idea what I just read because my brain put your wall of text in a blender.
In short, as a previous poster said, this site isn't for selling/peddling weight loss products. If you want to join BeachBody, there are groups on this site that may offer more to you.
Personally, I don't know why you want to lighten your wallet. I bought all of Jillian's workout DVD's for a total of like $40 and that does it for me. Otherwise, I would think a personal trainer would be a much better investment, dollar for dollar.
At the end of the day, it's your money. If you want reviews from "actual customers"* they do have a website with a forum you can check out.
*as the site claims, but we all know you can buy bogus reviews because internet.0 -
I would have read the original post but the lack of paragraphs just make me lose the will. From the replies though it's the traditional Friday mean people thread along with beachbody coaches are people to
Remember OP by using paragraphs your also burning at least a calorie by hitting the return key!0 -
That's a whole lot of money to learn portion sizing. I think a food scale would be a much faster and more effective way of learning that. And probably at a tenth of the cost.
See why people "bash" Beachbody? A bad idea is a bad idea. You can do it all you want. But we don't have to pretend it's the smart thing to do. It's a complete waste.
^Agreed. Why spend that amount of money on tupperware? A food scale costs between $10-$30 and MFP is free. Seems like a no brainer to me.0
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