Drunk rant about women
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It's not a lie, it's just how most women like to present themselves when going out to meet a man, and sometimes just going out of the house period. If he wants a low maintenance woman, I'm sure he can find one, there are plenty of us still out there. But I'll bet it's mostly the alcohol and bitterness talking and he'd still chase after women wearing make-up, push-up bras, heels, etc.
The night I met Hubs, he had a goatee (which is still the look I prefer on him) but when he picked me up for our first date, his face was clean shaven. Was that a lie? No, it was just a slightly altered look. He was still cute.
P.S . I had to laugh about the sweatpants comment. Sometimes it does make the package more obvious.0 -
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I'm 30 and have been going grey since about 15. I don't hide the fact that I color my hair and don't care if people know that I'm grey. I color my hair because it makes me feel better in public. I can't wear makeup because I'm allergic to most any makeup. I'm low maintenance as far as clothes and hairstyles. I go for comfort. I wear heals to weddings, funerals, and job interviews. I put my hair in a ponytail when necessary, otherwise it's down. Personally, I don't understand the whole spending 2 hours thing getting ready just to go out to dinner. I can't afford to do that. I work full-time, go to school full-time and have 3 kids. Those are my priorities. When I met my husband, I looked exactly like I did on any given day of the week. I didn't dress up to impress him, and he didn't either.
I look at it as lying - no different than showing up to an interview all dressed up. I don't think it's necessary. Unfortunately it's going against human nature not to do so. Appearances aren't my priority. I don't clean my house top to bottom before company arrives. My house is clean, but I don't need to bleach the grout before a person steps through the door. People close to me need to accept me for who I am.
I do want to clarify though, there is nothing wrong with women dressing up, etc. They have different values and there is nothing wrong with that. If that's what she wants and her significant other accepts her for it, then who's to say it's not ok? I think your friend is frustrated with the fact that he can't find someone that shares his values.0 -
enhancements to try to measure up to high expectations the world gives women to live up to
These high expectations are all in your head and they're generally self feeding. Where exactly are these so called expecations coming from? Keeping up with the Kardashians? Cosmo? Some other celebrity and/or model related nonsense?
They're everywhere. On the commercials for beer where you have skinny women in tiny shorts with makeup on and perfect hair bouncing around and being flirty with the men, on the front of magazines where women are always photoshopped, on billboards that show a big pair of tits yet they're trying to act like they're advertising for a radio station (what??? How is that even remotely true???), it's in the way that men (and women) talk about what they look for in a girl ("no fat chicks, please"), it's in the size of the mannequins at clothing stores all being smaller than the average woman, and I could literally go on for pages of examples for you.
You can say that it's all nonsense but the fact of the matter is that this "nonsense" bleeds into everyone's life, day in and day out, even if they don't notice it.
You can say that they're "self-feeding" and to an extent, that is true, but what about the role that society plays on how a person views oneself?
*this isn't to say that these kind of attitudes aren't placed on men. They are as well. It's just most of it is angled towards women.0 -
Anyway, when my husband met me I was braless, wearing a white tank top, shorts, no make-up, flat sandals.
And hearing this loser guy's rant...I'm just glad I'm married and will never end up on a date with a guy like that.0 -
I don't think women do these things to be charlatans. I think they feel like they HAVE to... they feel that they have to look a certain way to get men and to compete with other women. I know this is idealistic of me, but I don't like it that people make life out to be a competition. I think some competition ( friendly ) is fine, but to the point that people take it is extreme. I guess I'm not competitive...
Anyway, I wish women didn't feel the need to do these things, but you know... if women embraced more natural beauty, society would call them "gross." We are conditioned to view women's beauty in an unrealistic light.
Personally, I don't do a lot to my appearance. I rarely wear make up... I tried wearing make up, but I felt like it wasn't for me and I got bored. I'd rather take a walk for my morning routine. I'm big into clothes and accessories, so I always look cute. But I have a very basic beauty routine.... just clean myself, wear fresh scents and look "clean" I guess.0 -
In my personal opinion, all the things that women do to make themselves look a certain way is a form of self expression. I like to do my makeup, fix my hair, and wear things that make me feel pretty. If that's misleading to a man, then I would have to say that's his own problem.
I use make up to enhance the beauty I already have. Some women use it for other puposes.
Men can do this too, but they don't. That's OK! Also, if you fall for based off the way they look then you need to deepen your emotional and mental pools. There is more to a woman than boobs and eyelashes.0 -
I have small breasts, but I've learned to be confident in myself with the help of my boyfriend (who happens to be most attracted to women with slightly bigger butts and smaller breasts, so hooray for me being his perfect woman!), so I don't feel the need to wear a push-up bra, but I feel like most girls aren't so lucky.
I have teeny tiny boobies and I've never felt self conscious about them. Or had a problem attracting male attention. I think most men just like breasts in general.
like them small myself. beats saggy, althought i've seen small AND saggy. nipples give character and are also very subjective as far as what men do and don't like.
i think your right in saying that we just like breasts in general lol0 -
I have small breasts, but I've learned to be confident in myself with the help of my boyfriend (who happens to be most attracted to women with slightly bigger butts and smaller breasts, so hooray for me being his perfect woman!), so I don't feel the need to wear a push-up bra, but I feel like most girls aren't so lucky.
I have teeny tiny boobies and I've never felt self conscious about them. Or had a problem attracting male attention. I think most men just like breasts in general.
like them small myself. beats saggy, althought i've seen small AND saggy. nipples give character and are also very subjective as far as what men do and don't like.
i think your right in saying that we just like breasts in general lol
Omg what an amazing quote. I need to find the right place to say "nipples give character."0 -
I believe your co-worker stole this bit from Chris Rock's standup comedy. Tell him to make up his own material next time.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=chris+rock+women+are+liars&FORM=VIRE4#view=detail&mid=B14DB18CCC68A5A994CCB14DB18CCC68A5A994CC0 -
why not a cucumber wrapped in tinfoil?
I was waiting for this!! :-)0 -
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Makes me glad for how I dress then. :happy:
1. Makeup = little bit of eyeliner and an eyebrow pencil to help fill in
2. Bra = sports bra so I look like a pre-teen most days anyway since I'm an A-B cup in a regular bra
3. Shoes = Nike shoes most day
4. Clothes = unless you just caught me after work where I wear mainly t-shirt and jeans, I'm in running shorts, sports bra, shirt with the sleeves cut off during the summer or sweats and a hoodie during winter.
Could be why I haven't been asked on a date in a while. (Except by the people I went to high school with that have all of a sudden taken interest in me after my divorce.)0 -
Nothing wrong with a woman who wants to dress herself up and there is nothing wrong with a woman who doesn't. I learned a long time ago that most women don't put on makeup, spend two hours picking out outfits for the guy.. it's usually for themselves. Who am I to condemn that? Same thing with manscaping.. It's not a lie, any more than a just out of college kid arriving to an interview in his off the rack, non tailored suit is.
Now.. a lie would be going to pick someone up for a first date in a rented corvette, wearing a borrowed Armani and claiming you are an investment banker when in actuality you are a professional gamer living in your parents basement. (Yes this happened to someone I know.)0 -
beaten to the punch, good show. :laugh:no no no no no heres how it went down
1. create unrealistic, unattainable standards of beauty for women
2. build a multi-billion dollar beauty industry to sell women makeup and other products, tell them they are worthless without it
3. Mock women who wear makeup as vain and fake, mock women who don't as ugly
4. Code makeup as feminine, make the feminine shameful and embarrassing
5. complain that women look fake and you get what you see with men because they cant wear makeup
stay woke please0 -
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Interesting.
I've never really understood the purpose behind the makeup etc... and have often wondered. Of course it's to make you look 'better' -- but better than what - and FOR what ?? When we were dating my wife's mother would not let her out of the house without putting on makeup. I used to keep a box of Kleenex in the car so she could remove it. I liked her just the way she was - still do (30+ years later) Hopefully she lies me still. I'm here with MyFitnessPal to loose weight - not because of my appearance - (I've been mistaken for Santa many times and who doesn't like Santa) but because my health is suffering and I have to atone for all those years of laziness.
The question remains - for both sexes - why are you making up your face/body ?? Is it self confidence - or to beat the competition .... trying to look nicer and more attractive than the guy/girl next to you ?? Again - why ?? Are you interested in a guy who is so shallow that he wants a COSMO girl ?? Are you willing to maintain that level of effort for the rest of time or risk being abandoned when he learns 'the truth' ?? I used to work with a lovely lady who spent OVER an HOUR a morning before leaving her bed room so that her husband always saw her made up. I can not fathom the amount of time that requires. I have a beard - I've had it for almost 40 years. I made a conscious decision in my university days to sleep in 10 extra minutes a day and trim the face once a month. Since then I've been able to sleep in over 2000 hours. Likewise I have a brush cut every 4 or 5 weeks - it's easier and cheaper to do, easier to maintain and cleaner. I've saved thousands in shampoo and barber costs.
Does that imply I am more honest than other guys - or girls - in general ?? I doubt it !!
What does that say about the body-beauty business and the societal push for 'standards' ?? Are we about to turn on and rend those who look or act differently ?? (I'm in DEEP trouble then) What messages are we sending when we adhere to these 'standards' Do we even realize that we are sending a message ?? (Hmmm - actually there was a news article yesterday about a woman who wore a bikini to the beach and had a trio of younger people make fun of her stretch marks - Considering how they came to be I can not see ANYone making fun of stretch marks - they are badges of honour as far as I'm concerned - as a male I am in awe of anyone who has a single baby - never mind more than one)
What is the point of making up and wearing pushup bras, driving hummers or BMW convertibles, hair transplants ?? Who are we sending a message to ?? What are we saying ?? If it is untrue then yea - I guess we are lying --- if it is solely for our own confidence - then what is making us UNconfident and do we realize that there is a message going out that can be construed as a lie ??0 -
I am usually too excited and happy that a woman is letting me touch her to feel disappointed when her clothes come off and it looks different0
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Women are liars! Trying to appear appealing when in actuality they are just rotting inside. They should wear stoles of garbage and trash bags, weave fish fins into their hair to reflect their true inner hideousness!
Or . . . you know . . . they're people. Just people. Who happen to have vaginas.
Sometimes I really like you.
You oughtn't. I'm clearly a vicious troll who should be put down for sowing discord in the otherwise harmonious realm of myfriendshippals.0 -
You know someone who dated Mr. Tolerable?
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Women are liars! Makeup is a trick! Push up bras are a fallacy! But if the boobs start to sag a bit or there are stretch marks or acne scarring or she's overweight or graying or not dressed to impress him she's old, fat, needs makeup, doesn't take care of herself and sloppy and not worthy of his attention.
But let me guess...he's a nice guy. As if that's not the biggest lie ever told.:yawn:0 -
I tuck a sock in my pants, to feel better about myself. I also tell women I'm a millionaire. I do these things for me, to feel better about myself as a person. If a woman thinks I'm being dishonest that's on her, I'm doing this for me. *hair flip*
I bet the women would forgive lying about being a millionaire but you'd be in trouble for that sock lol.0 -
I wear the high platform heels, short dresses and put on make up when I go out. I don't cake the make up on and a lot of times I won't even bother with it. I do it because it makes me feel pretty, my husband likes it when I dress hot and yes, because I get the looks from the men.
What I think is deceiving and what I think the OP's co-worker was getting at is the women who if they're trying to attract a man put on the spanx to hide the rolls that they have, the push-up bra to make it look like they have some sort of boobage when they're flat chested. That is where I feel the "false advertising" comes in. How do you think he'll feel when he gets you home and he finds out that what you put out there was false? I'd be a bit put off if I met a guy and found out that he was wearing spanx because he had a beer gut, stuffed a sock in his pants and wore a toupee because that's not what was presented to me.0 -
I'm reminded of a friend who was dating this woman and things got to the bedroom, eventually. As he put it, she looked great in clothes but once she took everything off everything else ...just...fell. She went from looking like 35 (which she was) to looking like 60+.
You have hit the nail on the head. This attached video was shared by a man of my ethnic community, ranting about a date gone bad. We all couldn't visualise what he was expressing, so he chose to traumatise us all with this video. ** I come from a very simple community for the majority ~> Zero makeup, just native oils. Girls/Women who adorn makeup and the trimmings are either overseas girls/women, models[working] or air hostesses or are of the Asian community [Indian, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Indonesian, Pinoy]. He'd intimated going to date/bed what he'd thought was a Native Beyonce, only to have the walrus in the bedroom. LOL
The change, from a reasonably shaped curvaceous woman, to an obese woman in 1.44:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STm9DrUT-Ps 0 -
These are very good points. When interviewing potential hires I try not to let their clothes or appearances affect my judgement - but I will note the effort they put in as an indicator of character in general. Again - I am using modern societal standards for part of my yardstick. How do you change the standard ... and what do you do when someone else one-ups you ??0
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OBVIOUSLY you have never encountered this...
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No wonder he is divorced.0
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This looks like a good place to eat my lunch. Is this seat taken?0
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Women are liars! Trying to appear appealing when in actuality they are just rotting inside. They should wear stoles of garbage and trash bags, weave fish fins into their hair to reflect their true inner hideousness!
Or . . . you know . . . they're people. Just people. Who happen to have vaginas.
Sometimes I really like you.
You oughtn't. I'm clearly a vicious troll who should be put down for sowing discord in the otherwise harmonious realm of myfriendshippals.
Well, duh.0 -
I think it depends on the woman. Personally, I don't do any of those things (anymore!) and have adopted a guy's "I am what I am" mentality. More women should, it's liberating!0
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Last night one of my co-workers went on a drunk rant about women during happy hour. He's biased, of course. He's recently divorced and frustrated with the little dating he's done since then. He was going on about trust issues from this ex cheating, and then said women can't be trusted because they use make up and push up bras and those are lies, then he went on with hair dyeing and girdles and that it makes all women liars. We all laughed and it didn't really turn into a conversation but it did get me thinking.
That's something guys really have to deal with on the dating scene that women don't: the dressing up. If I were dating and on the first date the guy showed up wearing spanx to tuck a gut, shoes that made him seem 3 inches taller, and oh I don't know, let's say a really awesome convincing fake beard... I'd be kind of miffed to see him without the extras after expecting something different. Men don't do that though. They perform various levels of grooming, but with men, what you see is what you get. Many women, however, routinely change their hair color, wear heels, wear bras that change the shape of their breasts, we paint our faces, we can make our hair curly, straight, wavy, whatever we want!
Does this make us untrustworthy liars? I mean that's an extreme end of the spectrum but at least in my case it made me feel hypocritical to view a male who did similar things as, well misleading.
Make up and spanx and push up bras and excessive hair styling can be misleading, but can it also be unethical when taken to the extreme?
What about a potato in my pants?
Not that I would ever NEED a potato in my pants but would that be considered a lie?
Ok ladies, GO! LoL
Edit: Dammit! I missed the sock in my parts on page 1....0
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