Be Smart... don't fall for Fads and scams :)

^^^^ Kale Candy Bars PEOPLE! Lets argue about that too! This is almost fun.

Clearly... I have NO Idea what I'm talking about. My body must show for it along with my clients.

Anyone that wants to have an adult debate with me can send me a message and I will start to be serious about this and give my insights and actually listen to yours. Right now all I hear is blah blah blah since so many of you are arguing and knit picking every little thing.

Ohhh I get it... YOU all are the experts... OOPS My bad lol. :::eye roll:::

Kale Candy Kale Candy!

<hate that I have to stoop this low, but I think its the only way some of you can understand>

wow...just wow...

OP you don't get it do you...wondering if I should try one more time....hmm sure I am a sucker for punishment

Clean eating is a fad and until you say something a long the lines of this

"you guys I stand corrected, I should not have used the phrase "clean eating" as a thing to do to lose weight while my post was about scams and fads to avoid that are all over the weight loss industry because "clean eating" is the new "buzz word" fad weight loss gimmick.

What I did was create an oxymoron of a post with that phrase and if I could go back and edit it with" nutrient dense" or "follow the 80/20 rule" I would but now I can't because I was too busy debating that I was right to use that word and calling you all naysayers and laughing at you and dropping the bully bomb, my bad"

*isn't gonna hold my breath for this but at least I tried.

:noway: hmm... maybe you should go read a couple posts above where I DID talk about the buzzwords and said I didn't realize it was one and now I do so I will be more careful with it. Reading helps :ohwell:

you mean this

We will have to agree to disagree on the bullying. I don't care about it hence why I haven't left yet, but some of the snobbish attacks were unwarranted. Someone could easily say that the term is confusing to many and gave their explanation and that would be that. I understand now that it is a sensitive word. I will be more careful with it in the future... but the way some people handled it was ridiculous.
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Yes I read that part and that was the part that made me post what I did...being disagreed with repeated by the majority <> bullying and you wouldn't have been disagreed with if 6 pages ago you would have just "GOT IT" because you didn't "READ" what we were saying.

YOu were so intent on being right you missed the forest for the trees and now unfortuanately because you took 6 pages to acknowledge that it is a FAD instead of doing research prior to posting it period...most of what you will post in the future will be scoffed at by those here who saw this and see what you are about.

And even now you are putting the blame on "us" saying we are bullies, naysayers etc...

So take this for what it's worth after you have read it a couple times...don't be careful with the words "clean eating" just don't use them they are a fad and a scam...kk :flowerforyou:

:noway: That was not the post I was referring to... it was before that. But thank you for the lecture. :drinker:

And again... this is a message board and I take it as such. I am NOT worried about being "Scoffed at by those who saw this and see what you are about" I have legitimate tips and advice regarding fitness and health. I have made other comments on other posts and have had no negativity yet (Though I'm sure some of you are jumping at the chance :laugh: ). As I stated in a previous post. I had NO IDEA that "clean" was a buzzword. I have never heard that before until I came on here. I also stated above that I won't use it and be more careful which terms I use to make a point (even if that was NOT the point in the first place).

:noway: That was not the post I was referring to... it was before that. But thank you for the lecture. :drinker:

And again... this is a message board and I take it as such. I am NOT worried about being "Scoffed at by those who saw this and see what you are about" I have legitimate tips and advice regarding fitness and health. I have made other comments on other posts and have had no negativity yet (Though I'm sure some of you are jumping at the chance :laugh: ). As I stated in a previous post. I had NO IDEA that "clean" was a buzzword. I have never heard that before until I came on here. I also stated above that I won't use it and be more careful which terms I use to make a point (even if that was NOT the point in the first place).

Your welcome, I typically pull out my mom voice when running into people who are acting like teenagers who have read the book of all...can't help it I have one at home.

As for your others posts do you mean on your "other" profile because on this profile you have 2 posts...this one you started and one you commented on about how people lose weight differently in which you didn't spout nonsense.

That is the point I was trying to make. It is a simple word that SOME people use to generally mean healthy food. The word "healthy" can ALSO have multiple meanings since healthy means different things to different people. It's just a simple word to use to describe natural foods. It does NOT mean that all unnatural foods are dirty or unhealthy. Thank you for reading the post the way it was meant and not reading into something I never intended to. Unfortunately, reading things on the internet can easily be misconstrued and for that I do not blame others for disagreeing with that term. I do however disagree with those who got rude about it though to try and make a point... when we were pretty much saying the same thing. Once I explained that I did not mean it as a 100% thing, I would have thought they would back off. Persistence is key I guess. Thanks for your reply!

As for this...then that's the point you should have made...I read the words and take them for their meaning in context. We can't read minds and know what you "intended" we can only go by what is typed out and that doesn't mean it was misconstrued...

because even now you are spouting about "eating clean" even if it's 80% of the time which is well...what you just aren't getting.

There is no clean or dirty, no natural or unnatural food...it's all fuel and can be used for various things. Pizza is a good fuel, lean chicken breast is good fuel, heck a donut is good fuel and the fiber1 peanut butter brownie I am about to eat is good fuel...

So since persistence is key get this...clean eating and exercise is not the key to weight loss, eating in a calorie deficit is, eating nutrient dense foods and exercise is for health and you can still be fat eating "clean" and "exercising" if you are not in a calorie deficit

Well... sorry but I am going to completely disagree with you. I agree that I should have been more cautious with the chosen word and described myself better. So in that aspect you are right. But if you honestly tell me that health and losing weight is ONLY about being in a calorie deficit and you basically stated that ALL calories are created equal then I COMPLETELY utterly disagree. That is like telling people they can eat 2 donuts a day but since they are under their calorie amount they will lose weight. :noway: Anorexics lose weight because they obviously are in a calorie deficit. Does that make them healthy? Healthy does NOT always mean being in a calorie deficit. And YES a calorie is a calorie and to lose weight one must burn 3500. I get it. But some calories are "empty" and pose no nutritional value to help the cells in your body burn fat, metabolize food, and maintain muscle. Do you honestly believe that a slice of pizza is as healthy as a chicken breast? Is pizza a demon? NO... and people should be able to ENJOY pizza. But if your sake of argument is that to be healthy and lose weight, a person only has to eat less calories... then you are way off base.