Sorry I'm Not Sorry - I gotta rant!

If a person has eaten processed and/or prepared foods his/her entire life, it is easier to take baby steps. Replace 1 "to-go" snack, then 1 meal, etc. When a person slowly replaces empty calories with nutrients, the body will crave the nutrients. It's okay to disagree, but I choose healthy (now, to only give up the nachos :laugh: )

I think that people just need to find what works for them. I prefer a balanced diet that includes treats. I do not need to eat 100% clean in order to lose weight. I think people are mixing up goals...

If your goal is to lose weight, eat at a deficit.
If your goal is to retain as much muscle as possible while losing weight, eat enough protein and find a progressive resistance training program (e. g. Starting strength or StrongLifts).
If your goal is to be overall healthy (feeling good most of the time and having good blood work, etc), maintain a healthy weight, get enough rest (sleep and non-exercise days), drink enough water, eat enough fat, get your micronutrients, and maybe do some form of cardio.
If your goal is to stay sane, don't give up foods you love. Try to work them in or take a temporary break from them until you can show some self control.

In to see where this goes.

We'll share the chair.


Also, in for food racism.

Define "healthy."

Well, if you actually need me to define "healthy" for you, then here it is:

adjective, healthier, healthiest.
1. possessing or enjoying good health or a sound and vigorous mentality:
"a healthy body; a healthy mind."

That's how the dictionary defines. If that doesn't satisfy you, then my definition of healthy is being able to sleep restfully through the night, having the energy to make it through the day without needing to consume caffeine/sugar, pooping regularly, feeling positive, and happy, and knowing that, barring any chronic/unexpected diseases, you are going to look forward to long life.

If neither of those help you in your search for healthy, I'm not sure what will.

Aside from living with depression, I'm in great health according to OP's definition.

For weight loss, it's always going to come down to calories in verse calories out.
eating healthy is a different topic.
You said that you replied to a thread where the OP was complaining of not losing weight, so the answer To that usually comes back to calories in verse calories out. did that OP ask about opinions on eating healthy?

This is what I was going to say. Losing weight and being healthy are two totally different things. Overlapping, yes, but different.

Define "healthy."

Well, if you actually need me to define "healthy" for you, then here it is:

adjective, healthier, healthiest.
1. possessing or enjoying good health or a sound and vigorous mentality:
"a healthy body; a healthy mind."

That's how the dictionary defines. If that doesn't satisfy you, then my definition of healthy is being able to sleep restfully through the night, having the energy to make it through the day without needing to consume caffeine/sugar, pooping regularly, feeling positive, and happy, and knowing that, barring any chronic/unexpected diseases, you are going to look forward to long life.

If neither of those help you in your search for healthy, I'm not sure what will.

If that's the definition of healthy then I'm perfect and I eat processed foods all the damn day. I mean, skin cancer will probably get me one day but.

The ONLY neccesity to lose weight is to eat less calories than your body burns in a day (TDEE). While eating more whole foods is healthier (and IMHO keeps you satisfied longer), it's not necessary in order to lose weight and it's not necessary to do 100% of the time. Also, to repeat what's been pointed out, everyone's definition of "healthy" is slightly different. Just because someone is vegan doesn't mean they're healthy. And just because I eat pizza on a nearly weekly basis doesn't mean I'm not healthy - or that I can't lose weight, obviously, see the ticker. All foods are part of a balanced diet.

I think of it the same way as exercise. You don't need to do it to lose weight BUT there are health benefits and you'll probably end up with a physique that you're happier with (not skinny fat).

Oooh... is this today's mean people thread?

But seriously... No need to push your clean eating lifestyle on other people to lose weight. Just like you wouldn't push detoxes, low carbs, or vegan diets for anyone to lose weight. Anyone can lose weight eating what they want at a calorie deficit in moderation, including pizza, ice cream and hot dogs.

"Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is."

So OP is complaining that when someone asked for weight loss advice, and she gave them irrelevant cleaning eating advice, this advice was pointed out as being irrelevant.

And this was wrong because...?

These TREADS make me chuckle. I'm still peeking in on topics until the scale moves.:laugh: