In Ketosis, but I didn't intend to be...
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Fair. However, OP has no form of diabetes as far as we (and her - based on her claim that she is perfectly healthy) can tell.
P.S. I always find it weird when someone has their first post in threads like this.
That is fine you find it weird. This just happened to be the first topic on the list as I was reading tonight. I only know about the oily appearance of ketones in urine from my wives health issues as of late. Dunno if its the actual ketones you are seeing or some by product of the over all issue.
And I agree 100% on the see a doctor comments. There are far to many variables that could be in play..
Are you telling me that a doctor told her she was looking at was ketones? Because if I just google your words, that exact phrase comes up on WebMD.
I copied it straight off a urology board I had followed sometime back while researching my wives issues. It more than likely sites the same information as WebMD. Id gladly show you the board
. But what I was saying was the only reason I knew about an oily look to urine was from the issues my wife was having. It was one of the symptoms that turned out to be Diabetic ketoacidosis which she has issues with.
irrelevant to this thread.
I was simply responding to someones question as to how I came to my opinion and if the DR said seeing ketones, I never said they were seeing ketones, as I do not believe they are visible to the eye. Just that them present in high levels can cause something to present an oily substance in the urine..
* There Zach I think I explained better what I meant *0 -
Fair. However, OP has no form of diabetes as far as we (and her - based on her claim that she is perfectly healthy) can tell.
P.S. I always find it weird when someone has their first post in threads like this.
That is fine you find it weird. This just happened to be the first topic on the list as I was reading tonight. I only know about the oily appearance of ketones in urine from my wives health issues as of late. Dunno if its the actual ketones you are seeing or some by product of the over all issue.
And I agree 100% on the see a doctor comments. There are far to many variables that could be in play..
Are you telling me that a doctor told her she was looking at was ketones? Because if I just google your words, that exact phrase comes up on WebMD.
I copied it straight off a urology board I had followed sometime back while researching my wives issues. It more than likely sites the same information as WebMD. Id gladly show you the board . But what I was saying was the only reason I knew about an oily look to urine was from the issues my wife was having. It was one of the symptoms that turned out to be Diabetic ketoacidosis which she has issues with.
Yeah, ketoacidosis is not the same as "ketosis" though it is just an extreme form of ketosis. OP is not diabetic, she's not going to see ketones in her urine, and her diet isn't conducive to nutritional ketosis. She prolly just googled and found the same board that you and I did and jumped to conclusions.0 -
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well a quick way to find out for sure would be to get a ketosis test. there is a test that also tests glucose which will you tell you ifyou're in ketoacidosis or not. easy peasy definite way to figure it out for sure. but yeah.if you are even questioning if it's possible.. Get to a freaking emergency room! that's not something you mess with.
but on with the gifs
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Yeah, ketoacidosis is not the same as "ketosis" though it is just an extreme form of ketosis. OP is not diabetic, she's not going to see ketones in her urine, and her diet isn't conducive to nutritional ketosis. She prolly just googled and found the same board that you and I did and jumped to conclusions.
Thanks everyone for explaining there is a difference in the two. And I never meant to say she ( OP ) was diabetic or anything, sorry if my wording led you to believe that.. Was just saying that ketone presence in some cases ( my wives ) can cause the appearance she mentioned. But the levels are very high and a result of diabetes in most cases.0 -
well a quick way to find out for sure would be to get a ketosis test. there is a test that also tests glucose which will you tell you ifyou're in ketoacidosis or not. easy peasy definite way to figure it out for sure. but yeah.if you are even questioning if it's possible.. Get to a freaking emergency room! that's not something you mess with.
but on with the gifs
http://i.imgur.com/agJIP.gif
Fixed that for ya. 0 -
well a quick way to find out for sure would be to get a ketosis test. there is a test that also tests glucose which will you tell you ifyou're in ketoacidosis or not. easy peasy definite way to figure it out for sure. but yeah.if you are even questioning if it's possible.. Get to a freaking emergency room! that's not something you mess with.
but on with the gifs
http://i.imgur.com/agJIP.gif
Thanks!0 -
Yeah, ketoacidosis is not the same as "ketosis" though it is just an extreme form of ketosis. OP is not diabetic, she's not going to see ketones in her urine, and her diet isn't conducive to nutritional ketosis. She prolly just googled and found the same board that you and I did and jumped to conclusions.
Thanks everyone for explaining there is a difference in the two. And I never meant to say she was diabetic or anything, sorry if my wording led you to believe that.. Was just saying that ketone presence in some cases can cause the appearance she mentioned. But the levels are very high and a result of diabetes in most cases.
if she is in ketoacidosis she's diabetic. it's not something that happens to people that aren't type 1 diabetic or extremely long standing uncontrolled type 2 diabetic. Dietary ketosis is ENTIRELY different from Diabetic ketoacidosis0 -
Hello. is this thing on?
I guess not.
maybe LIPURIA, maybe CHYLURIA. Even proteinuria may result in filming.
It's likely NOT diabetic ketoacidosis. When is that ever asymptomatic?0 -
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Hello. is this thing on?
I guess not.
maybe LIPURIA, maybe CHYLURIA. Even proteinuria may result in filming.
It's likely NOT diabetic ketoacidosis. When is that ever asymptomatic?
offtopic: but, sweet, you made the data download thing from MFP to excel?
Yep. Jack of all trades, master of none. Thanks!0 -
Hello. is this thing on?
I guess not.
maybe LIPURIA, maybe CHYLURIA. Even proteinuria may result in filming.
It's likely NOT diabetic ketoacidosis. When is that ever asymptomatic?
LOL. I heard ya, and couldn't agree more. Chyle was my guess, but hell, what do I know?
Oh, and I just found you're excel export tool for MFP looks awesome and thanks! (Just grabbed it)0 -
Hello. is this thing on?
I guess not.
maybe LIPURIA, maybe CHYLURIA. Even proteinuria may result in filming.
It's likely NOT diabetic ketoacidosis. When is that ever asymptomatic?
offtopic: but, sweet, you made the data download thing from MFP to excel?
DAMN IT ZACH!0 -
Hi OP! I know this thread has gotten a little out of hand, but I wanted to put my two cents in. These people have no idea what they're talking about! If you know your body and think you're in ketosis and you're sure you're just seeing ketones in your urine see a f***ing doctor.0
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Hello. is this thing on?
I guess not.
maybe LIPURIA, maybe CHYLURIA. Even proteinuria may result in filming.
It's likely NOT diabetic ketoacidosis. When is that ever asymptomatic?
LOL. I heard ya, and couldn't agree more. Chyle was my guess, but hell, what do I know?
Oh, and I just found you're excel export tool for MFP looks awesome and thanks! (Just grabbed it)
Here is the funny thing - eat some eggs, urinate an hour to two afterwards without drinking much, let urine sit fro 5 minutes. Instant oily film. That's excess albumin. Normal.
It shouldn't be visible at urination in a normal diet with sufficient water intake as the micelles remain in emulsion. Separation is both concentration, temperature and mixing dependent. Micelle stacking is the bomb.0 -
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Micelle stacking is the bomb.
Aww hell yeah. I been sayin' that for years!
(nope, never said it once, and it only makes vague sense to me)
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Hi OP! I know this thread has gotten a little out of hand, but I wanted to put my two cents in. These people have no idea what they're talking about! If you know your body and think you're in ketosis and you're sure you're just seeing ketones in your urine see a f***ing doctor.
Hmmm... ya don't say...
Edited to tone down my indignation.0 -
OP if you come back can you share your recipe for arugula potato soup? it sounds yummy0
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Oh man. That chicken fat thread. Awesome :laugh:0
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Ha this thread is aces, although it has gotten a little serious so here's some more Charlie Sheen
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Ahh what the ...
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I can't be bothered reading the whole thread but i can see there are a few idiots on it.
I know why the OP has ketones in her wee. And she doesn't need to see a doctor. It is to be completely expected. Has she been eating more carbs, she would not have them but her diet must be fairly low carb.
And even if its not that low, after a while of eating lowish carbs and high fat, your body will produce them since it will turn to fat for its energy source. I also wonder if i've got ketones in my pee though i'm not even doing paleo so i probably do eat more carbs than the OP.
She probably thinks that ketogenic has to be as low as 30 or under 50 but its not the case.0 -
i am totally in KETOSIS i am cracking up so hard.
it seriously put me in ketosis.
thats how ketosis works right?
ketones!
ps. op, see a doctor. or dont.0 -
This is how OP views herself:
Reality:
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a list of videos on micelles and liposomesMicelle stacking is the bomb.
Aww hell yeah. I been sayin' that for years!
(nope, never said it once, and it only makes vague sense to me)
:laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ILSsW3tXr8&list=PLCGvKoXd8XYY726hk1hc538PZQtV4EvGH
lipids are what cell walls are made up of.
in many transport situations like digestion - very small balls of lipids are necessary to transport proteins, fat and certain nutrients to the liver. These are called liposomes and made from little micelle balls and are biophysical magic. Think of tiny drops of oil becoming basketballs to carry food, etc.. to cells.
What I find fascinating is how micelles form - then create bilipid layers - or films spontaneously depending on pH, etc.
In the case of lipids in urine that sits - its the unfolding to make films and aggregate layers that is interesting - going from an emulsion to separated solution.
(yeah, I'm weird)0 -
Ketones are visible oil bodies in the urine. You don't need to test for something you can see.
Err, no. You can't "see" the trace levels of acetoacetate in urine, though you might be able to smell them. They aren't oily, either.0 -
This thread reminds me of the chicken fat pee thread. Ahhh memories...
Please, enlighten me. :happy:
Enjoy.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/438315-when-is-a-pound-lost-and-where-does-it-go?hl=chicken+fat+pee&page=1
That thread is pure comedy gold! I love when the crazies get to a thread first!0 -
Did anyone get booted yet? I can't tell, there's no kaboom or anything.
Sometimes it pays off to arrive very late to the party, this one's one of them. It's like the Christmas gift that keeps on giving when the thread has reached star status on page 4, yet there's four more pages to read. Thanks for all the contributions.0
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