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If eating trash makes us sick, why do we keep eating it?
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I eat pudding everyday!
You are clearly not living life to the fullest, you have been manipulated by Big Pudding, and you have not taught your children well (if you have any).
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I particularly like her article on microwaves, where she has claimed that they cause water molecules to form crystals that resemble crystals that have been exposed to "negative thoughts or beliefs," including the names of Hitler and Satan.
Also....lololol...toxic tissues:
http://foodbabe.com/2012/04/09/its-allergy-season-are-you-using-toxic-tissues/
While ^^these are ridiculous, they are 'relatively' harmless. However, her stance on vaccinations most definitely is not.
She is a freaking idiot - good at marketing, but an idiot nonetheless.
Good marketing for sure. That stuff sells books. Eat less move more just isn't sexy enough...
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You are clearly not living life to the fullest, you have been manipulated by Big Pudding, and you have not taught your children well (if you have any).
I dunno watching my kid share my Pudding and how delighted she is with it is pretty fulfilling to me.0 -
Firstly, i think the more junk food you eat the more your body will crave it. Granted everyone has days where they just want something super sweet, salty or just any kind of comfort food. I think with junk food its best to just cut it out cold turkey, first few weeks will be the hardest because your brain is just telling you what to crave. After a while you'll see its a lot easier to just eat generally healthier, at this point reintroduce junk food in moderation.
I generally eat pretty healthy but i have days where i just want to eat everything in sight and then feel extremely disgusted. Ive gotten a lot better at actually enjoying the junk food i eat without feeling guilty because then i stop when im satisfied, if i dont and i just eat junk food i dont really even want i wont get satisfied so i want to eat everything.0 -
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I dunno watching my kid share my Pudding and how delighted she is with it is pretty fulfilling to me.
Too bad you can't share one of these with her...
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GenesiaElizabeth wrote: »
Then why are so many people sick, obese, dying, not knowing where to turn? If we are free indeed to make our own choices, perhaps it does have something to do with manipulation and addiction from the manufacturers to consumers because why aren't we choosing better quality and fresher foods then? Based on statistics, we are more unhealthy as a culture than we are healthy and thriving.
Not to you specifically but I think we really need to be open to people trying to make a better world by offering ideas, information and personal experience that has worked for them in many ways. Sometimes, we need to look beyond the scientic reasoning and explaining and just embrace the fact that fresh fruits and veggies are far more helpful to us vs harmful, like 90% of what's in a typical grocery store. The proof is in the pudding.
And thank you the compliment on my weight loss, as that's how I'm taking it.
If it's all "Big Food's" fault (smh at even needing to type that), then why do some individuals who eat "clean" and exercise every day die early of cancer while others can live to triple didgets eating whatever they want, smoke, and drink?
If you have pudding, please share, but there is no proof in it.
Edit: Where can we get these statistics from? I thought we were living longer than ever?1 -
If it's all "Big Food's" fault (smh at even needing to type that), then why do some individuals who eat "clean" and exercise every day die early of cancer while others can live to triple didgets eating whatever they want, smoke, and drink?
If you have pudding, please share, but there is no proof in it.
I'm not agreeing with her but not all cancers are food related. Genetics and other outside variables can cause cancer regardless of how well one eats.0 -
Firstly, i think the more junk food you eat the more your body will crave it. Granted everyone has days where they just want something super sweet, salty or just any kind of comfort food. I think with junk food its best to just cut it out cold turkey, first few weeks will be the hardest because your brain is just telling you what to crave. After a while you'll see its a lot easier to just eat generally healthier, at this point reintroduce junk food in moderation.
I generally eat pretty healthy but i have days where i just want to eat everything in sight and then feel extremely disgusted. Ive gotten a lot better at actually enjoying the junk food i eat without feeling guilty because then i stop when im satisfied, if i dont and i just eat junk food i dont really even want i wont get satisfied so i want to eat everything.
Please don't equate your situation and then generalize it to everyone else. I had one cookie today cause someone brought them in. Didn't crave any more. I haven't started holding up convenient stores to get my next cookie fix. Some of us are perfectly fine with moderation. Just because you don't have the willpower, don't generalize it onto everyone else.
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Let's look at this objectively. Do you think the processed foods we have here are only available in the US? Or are they available all over the world?GenesiaElizabeth wrote: »
Then why are so many people sick, obese, dying, not knowing where to turn? If we are free indeed to make our own choices, perhaps it does have something to do with manipulation and addiction from the manufacturers to consumers because why aren't we choosing better quality and fresher foods then? Based on statistics, we are more unhealthy as a culture than we are healthy and thriving.
Not to you specifically but I think we really need to be open to people trying to make a better world by offering ideas, information and personal experience that has worked for them in many ways. Sometimes, we need to look beyond the scientic reasoning and explaining and just embrace the fact that fresh fruits and veggies are far more helpful to us vs harmful, like 90% of what's in a typical grocery store. The proof is in the pudding.
And thank you the compliment on my weight loss, as that's how I'm taking it.
I'll be the first to tell you that the same foods I get here, can be bought in the Philippines. Same in other parts of the world. So logically if it's just about the food make up, then other nations should have obesity at the same level of the US. But they aren't. Why? Because these other countries just don't indulge the same way the average American does whether it's due to finances or because they figured out how to not eat so much.
Americans are overweight and obese not because of the chemicals in the food, but because they eat to damn much. It really is that simple.
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JeffseekingV wrote: »
Because food companies tout their marketing with no considering to us. We watch TV and believe what's being feed to us. Only those that choose not to believe everything start down the path to the truth. I think you have started down the path but need some re-direction. That lady you want to believe is no better than the food industry marketing. If you want the truth, it's not with her.
In no way shape or form is she a lady who "I want to believe". I could honestly care less. I explained why I took it as a compliment and that's that. I have the truth, thank you and it has literally set me free but that is not for this topic.
I am secure in who I am and I stand by what I believe in. Unfortunately, I'm human like you all and I'm not perfect. I appreciate the debating and the banter. Its been a fun day. 0 -
I actually stated that i am now a lot better at eating sweets or unhealthy stuff because i eat until im satisfied so im perfectly fine with moderation. My comment was specifically for the person who actually asked the question as oppose to giving advice to the general public since he seemed to have trouble with eating too much junk food.0
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GenesiaElizabeth wrote: »
In no way shape or form is she a lady who "I want to believe". I could honestly care less. I explained why I took it as a compliment and that's that. I have the truth, thank you and it has literally set me free but that is not for this topic.
I am secure in who I am and I stand by what I believe in. Unfortunately, I'm human like you all and I'm not perfect. I appreciate the debating and the banter. Its been a fun day.
You should clarify as everyone thinks you are taking what she says as the truth. And honestly when you say 90% of the foods at the grocery store are "bad" for you, it tends to that belief.0 -
http://blogs.nature.com/soapboxscience/2013/05/29/the-presence-of-a-chemical-is-not-the-same-as-presence-of-risk
"The problem may not be the “potentially” toxic chemicals that are in products we buy and use every day as much as the zeal with which some individuals and activist groups attempt to convert an association into causation to fit an ideological agenda. If we were to remove all “potentially” toxic products from the shelves of the stores we shop at—there would be nothing left for us to buy".0 -
GenesiaElizabeth wrote: »
Then why are so many people sick, obese, dying, not knowing where to turn? If we are free indeed to make our own choices, perhaps it does have something to do with manipulation and addiction from the manufacturers to consumers because why aren't we choosing better quality and fresher foods then? Based on statistics, we are more unhealthy as a culture than we are healthy and thriving.
Not to you specifically but I think we really need to be open to people trying to make a better world by offering ideas, information and personal experience that has worked for them in many ways. Sometimes, we need to look beyond the scientic reasoning and explaining and just embrace the fact that fresh fruits and veggies are far more helpful to us vs harmful, like 90% of what's in a typical grocery store. The proof is in the pudding.
And thank you the compliment on my weight loss, as that's how I'm taking it.
We are an obese people because we allow ourselves to be as such. We blame carbs/sugars, fast food, sedentary jobs, stress, etc... for not being who we want to be. For our society, it's easier to blame someone else than to commit to a change. It's clear that you are trying to help, but by diverting blame away from the individual and onto the manufacturers and marketers, you are giving our society a scapegoat. Especially in our politically correct society where saying anything negative is a faux pas, people don't need another pat on the back. They need a kick in the butt! Nobody got in shape because someone told them, "You look totally great being fat!" No, they were too fat to fit in a rollercoaster, had to buy a second seat on a plane, couldn't walk up a flight of stairs when the elevator was broken, etc... Tons of us have a story about that one thing that finally made us change, and rarely is it a happy one.
We don't choose healthier and fresher foods because we would rather have that instant gratification. Hungry now? Fast food is quicker and easier than driving all the way home and making a solid meal. Is that the restaurant's fault? No! Heck, I give them credit for great marketing in a capitalist economy.
As others have mentioned, turning to fruit and veggies is a healthier approach to eating than a box of ho-hos and some twinkies, but those twinkies aren't going to cause you harm if you have otherwise met your nutritional needs without exceeding your caloric goal.
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Actually.. a lot of junk food, especially that which includes excess sugar, accesses neural pathways in our brain akin to those that are accessed by cocaine. Sugar is so highly addictive that we keep craving more. And because it's empty calories we still feel hungry after eating, which then leads to more sugary cruddy foods. It's a brain thing, of which you need to rewire yourself!1
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Please don't equate your situation and then generalize it to everyone else. I had one cookie today cause someone brought them in. Didn't crave any more. I haven't started holding up convenient stores to get my next cookie fix. Some of us are perfectly fine with moderation. Just because you don't have the willpower, don't generalize it onto everyone else.
Wow! I did not read her post that way. Sounded like she was just sharing her experience. Take it easy pal...
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It is so clear that you have watched a great deal of fear mongering documentaries. The issue with that is if you believe them then try to push it on to others, you can't back up what you hear in the show with regurgitated information from the show. You actually have to provide the facts. Research what they say for yourself. They throw out random numbers which is exactly what you are doing.
I am living proof that this works. I don't need a degree or a list of facts to be confident in sharing what has worked for me and what has also been tragic in my life regarding what you eat, including many people that I know. Next time I will start with my story rather than try to skip it. My apologies for coming off too strong at first, without including my personal details.
Ever hear of hard knocks? That's where I got my degree and facts but I certainly will not get into that here.1 -
I actually stated that i am now a lot better at eating sweets or unhealthy stuff because i eat until im satisfied so im perfectly fine with moderation. My comment was specifically for the person who actually asked the question as oppose to giving advice to the general public since he seemed to have trouble with eating too much junk food.
I actually suspect I'm addicted to potato chips. I just have to fit them in my macros. haha0 -
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GalaxyPants wrote: »Actually.. a lot of junk food, especially that which includes excess sugar, accesses neural pathways in our brain akin to those that are accessed by cocaine. Sugar is so highly addictive that we keep craving more. And because it's empty calories we still feel hungry after eating, which then leads to more sugary cruddy foods. It's a brain thing, of which you need to rewire yourself!
You do realize that petting a puppy (assuming you love puppies because who doesn't?) triggers the same neural pathways?
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JeffseekingV wrote: »
I'm not agreeing with her but not all cancers are food related. Genetics and other outside variables can cause cancer regardless of how well one eats.
Exactly this - My cancer is no way, shape or form caused by anything I did in lifestyle. Doctors have no idea what caused it. As it is one of the most underfunded forms of cancer, it's also one of the kinds that has the least known about it - and that includes causes. I'm all about eating in moderation, and I've always been a fairly "clean" eater- whatever that means. I ate a lot of fresh vegetables and fruit, high fiber, whole grains, not too much red meat, low fat, all that la-la. I exercised a lot for years, didn't smoke, drank lots of water. And I still got cancer. So yeah. Enjoy life, damnit, because you never know what's around the corner.0 -
Wow! I did not read her post that way. Sounded like she was just sharing her experience. Take it easy pal...
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There's a cute story that still goes around my family. When my sister was ready to enter kindergarten, she was right at the cutoff point for her birth date (her birthday is in November). So it was between having her start school at four-going-on-five, or having her wait the year and have her be approaching six when she entered school.
My sister was (and is) very bright, so my mother thought she should begin school at not quite five. So my sister was tested to see if she was "ready" to start kindergarten.
One of the questions she was given was, "Name one food that's healthy for you." And my sister chanted like a little automaton, "Wonder Bread. It builds a strong body 12 ways!"
For reference, this was in 1969...when we kids were allowed exactly one hour of TV per day. One hour, that was it. The TV went back on at 5:00 for the news for my father to watch, was off again at 5:30, and would sometimes go back on at 8:00 or so for a "grown-up show" that we kids wouldn't watch because it was boring; we would wander off to our rooms to play.
Yes, food marketing DOES have an impact, and it's highly competitive. Obviously, both factors come into play: 1. the fact that marketing teams spend bocou bucks to find out exactly how to wiggle their way into our heads psychologically and 2. the fact that we see the results of our eating (we can't help but see them) and ultimately have to make our own decisions. And yes, more bocou dollars are spent making foods more hyperpalatable, again, because food is such a competitive industry. But obviously, in the long run, it's up to us to do without those mental, physical and emotional factors if we want to be healthy. If people weren't continuing to buy, marketers wouldn't be continuing to advise R&D and food development teams what to focus on ingredients-wise.
It IS hard to resist foods that were specifically designed, from the ground up, to hit as many possible pleasure and reward centers as possible in an immediate-impact way. It's harder still with the absolutely obscene wealth of food, especially fast food, on every corner. But I also agree that (this is anecdotal) for me, I have much better resistance when I eat more natural than factory-concoted foods. This would seem to say, to me (remember this is just me!), that there definitely is a physical component...even if I would not personally term it addictive.
I don't know why people go so militantly on either side of the fence with this when it's obvious both factors - outside influences, and our own personal choice - come into play. I really doubt most people get up in the morning thinking, "I'm going to be a total glutton today and get REALLY REALLY fat, hurrah!" We're pretty much all in the same boat, as I see things...and if just one answer were the easy answer, well, then nobody would be struggling.
We just have to take each day and each food choice as it comes...IMO. The temptation IS always going to be there. Brilliant food marketing is always going to be there. These are not non-profit organizations. And our choice will, for most of us, always be there too. But in real, actual, practical life, I see far less "Hey...I'm a complete moron who has no clue about nutrition and have decided I'll just go ahead and eat myself into a coma because, hey, that's fun and who cares if I weigh 500 pounds" and far more "hey, this is a struggle and I know I'm an intelligent person, so what's the problem?" I think people see one another in a TERRIBLE light in regards to this issue. People are no less intrinsically stupid and gluttonous today than they were 100, 500, 1000 years ago collectively. Give each other a break - it is obvious science and psychology DO factor in here at least to an extent. Those are (just from what I personally have seen) what most people are fighting against...not an overall stupid "duh" head-in-the-clouds attitude and willfully ignorant bent. Just my $.02.0 -
GenesiaElizabeth wrote: »I am living proof that this works. I don't need a degree or a list of facts to be confident in sharing what has worked for me and what has also been tragic in my life regarding what you eat, including many people that I know. Next time I will start with my story rather than try to skip it. My apologies for coming off too strong at first, without including my personal details.
Ever hear of hard knocks? That's where I got my degree and facts but I certainly will not get into that here.
I'm sure what you did worked, just not for the reasons you are trying to extrapolate...
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Wow! I did not read her post that way. Sounded like she was just sharing her experience. Take it easy pal...
The very first line of her post..."Firstly, i think the more junk food you eat the more your body will crave it.". That is a generalization that does not apply to everyone. I wasn't being rude to the girl. Just letting her know. Not sure why you think I'm not taking it easy.
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The very first line of her post..."Firstly, i think the more junk food you eat the more your body will crave it.". That is a generalization that does not apply to everyone. I wasn't being rude to the girl. Just letting her know. Not sure why you think I'm not taking it easy.
Whatever dude...
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Exactly this - My cancer is no way, shape or form caused by anything I did in lifestyle. Doctors have no idea what caused it. As it is one of the most underfunded forms of cancer, it's also one of the kinds that has the least known about it - and that includes causes. I'm all about eating in moderation, and I've always been a fairly "clean" eater- whatever that means. I ate a lot of fresh vegetables and fruit, high fiber, whole grains, not too much red meat, low fat, all that la-la. I exercised a lot for years, didn't smoke, drank lots of water. And I still got cancer. So yeah. Enjoy life, damnit, because you never know what's around the corner.
That's not what I meant, I will now edit the quote.If it's all "Big Food's" fault (smh at even needing to type that), then why do some individuals who eat "clean" and exercise every day die early while others can live to triple didgets eating whatever they want, smoke, and drink?
If you have pudding, please share, but there is no proof in it.0 -
There's a cute story that still goes around my family. When my sister was ready to enter kindergarten, she was right at the cutoff point for her birth date (her birthday is in November). So it was between having her start school at four-going-on-five, or having her wait the year and have her be approaching six when she entered school.
My sister was (and is) very bright, so my mother thought she should begin school at not quite five. So my sister was tested to see if she was "ready" to start kindergarten.
One of the questions she was given was, "Name one food that's healthy for you." And my sister chanted like a little automaton, "Wonder Bread. It builds a strong body eight ways!"
For reference, this was in 1969...when we kids were allowed exactly one hour of TV per day. One hour, that was it. The TV went back on at 5:00 for the news for my father to watch, was off again at 5:30, and would sometimes go back on at 8:00 or so for a "grown-up show" that we kids wouldn't watch because it was boring; we would wander off to our rooms to play.
Yes, food marketing DOES have an impact, and it's highly competitive. Obviously, both factors come into play: 1. the fact that marketing teams spend bocou bucks to find out exactly how to wiggle their way into our heads psychologically and 2. the fact that we see the results of our eating (we can't help but see them) and ultimately have to make our own decisions. And yes, more bocou dollars are spent making foods more hyperpalatable, again, because food is such a competitive industry. But obviously, in the long run, it's up to us to do without those mental, physical and emotional factors if we want to be healthy. If people weren't continuing to buy, marketers wouldn't be continuing to advise R&D and food development teams what to focus on ingredients-wise.
It IS hard to resist foods that were specifically designed, from the ground up, to hit as many possible pleasure and reward centers as possible in an immediate-impact way. It's harder still with the absolutely obscene wealth of food, especially fast food, on every corner. But I also agree that (this is anecdotal) for me, I have much better resistance when I eat more natural than factory-concoted foods. This would seem to say, to me (remember this is just me!), that there definitely is a physical component...even if I would not personally term it addictive.
I don't know why people go so militantly on either side of the fence with this when it's obvious both factors - outside influences, and our own personal choice - come into play. I really doubt most people get up in the morning thinking, "I'm going to be a total glutton today and get REALLY REALLY fat, hurrah!" We're pretty much all in the same boat, as I see things...and if just one answer were the easy answer, well, then nobody would be struggling.
We just have to take each day and each food choice as it comes...IMO. The temptation IS always going to be there. Brilliant food marketing is always going to be there. These are not non-profit organizations. And our choice will, for most of us, always be there too. But in real, actual, practical life, I see far less "Hey...I'm a complete moron who has no clue about nutrition and have decided I'll just go ahead and eat myself into a coma because, hey, that's fun and who cares if I weigh 500 pounds" and far more "hey, this is a struggle and I know I'm an intelligent person, so what's the problem?" I think people see one another in a TERRIBLE light in regards to this issue. People are no less intrinsically stupid and gluttonous today than they were 100, 500, 1000 years ago collectively. Give each other a break - it is obvious science and psychology DO factor in here at least to an extent. Those are (just from what I personally have seen) what most people are fighting against...not an overall stupid "duh" head-in-the-clouds attitude and willfully ignorant bent. Just my $.02.
She was five. That's what parents are for. If adults can't overcome a marketing campaign when buying food..... time for the kool-aid for the masses.
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