1000 pound club

natecooper75 wrote: »

yopeeps025 wrote: »

raw means no chalk right? or just no knee wraps/ straps?

I can't think of a federation that doesn't allow chalk. Most feds that I have heard of don't let you wear knee support during deadlift. Definitely no lifting straps.

Most feds go by something similar to the APF regulations:

Squat: Belt and wrist wraps allowed, no knee sleeves or knee wraps, hip crease must go below the top of your knee. Bar must not descend at any point during the lift after it has begun to ascend.

Bench Press: Belt and wrist wraps allowed, heels do not have to be in contact with the floor, butt and shoulders must stay in contact with the bench, bar must touch your chest and stop until the "press" command is given. Bar must come all the way up with elbows locked and not be racked until the "rack" command is given. Bar must not descend at any point during the lift after it has begun to ascend.

Deadlift: No knee wraps, no hitching, no lifting straps. Belt and wrist wraps allowed. Hook grip, double overhand and over/under grip are all allowed. Bar must come straight up to lockout w/ no descent after the bar has begun to ascend. Bar must be held until "lower" command is given.

Realistically, if you really want to gauge your strength in the gym it would be best to go by these standards IMO.

natecooper75 wrote: »

Lofteren wrote: »

natecooper75 wrote: »

yopeeps025 wrote: »

raw means no chalk right? or just no knee wraps/ straps?

I can't think of a federation that doesn't allow chalk. Most feds that I have heard of don't let you wear knee support during deadlift. Definitely no lifting straps.

Most feds go by something similar to the APF regulations:

Squat: Belt and wrist wraps allowed, no knee sleeves or knee wraps, hip crease must go below the top of your knee. Bar must not descend at any point during the lift after it has begun to ascend.

Bench Press: Belt and wrist wraps allowed, heels do not have to be in contact with the floor, butt and shoulders must stay in contact with the bench, bar must touch your chest and stop until the "press" command is given. Bar must come all the way up with elbows locked and not be racked until the "rack" command is given. Bar must not descend at any point during the lift after it has begun to ascend.

Deadlift: No knee wraps, no hitching, no lifting straps. Belt and wrist wraps allowed. Hook grip, double overhand and over/under grip are all allowed. Bar must come straight up to lockout w/ no descent after the bar has begun to ascend. Bar must be held until "lower" command is given.

Realistically, if you really want to gauge your strength in the gym it would be best to go by these standards IMO.

Choosing a federation to go by is hard though because of the subtle difference between them. If you go by the IPF which is probably the largest in the world, they allow knee sleeves. The best one to go by can be argued for ages with no one coming out the winner. I always just like to hear if squats were done with or without wraps because wraps can give you a major advantage (not that other equipment can't, this just seems to be a standard that is used to differentiate records).

I know my beliefs aren't the same as everyone else but, when I think of raw, I think of belt, sleeves or wraps, and even maybe even wrist wraps even though I don't utilize them myself. Chalk is also included.

I think raw should allow knee wraps, a belt and wrist wraps. If anything, I think that those pieces of equipment are necessary for safety. They do contribute somewhat to lifting heavier weights but they also have other utility whereas bench press shirts, squat suits and deadlift suits pretty much only serve 1 purpose for which they are exceedingly effective.

yopeeps025 wrote: »

Lofteren wrote: »

natecooper75 wrote: »

Lofteren wrote: »

natecooper75 wrote: »

yopeeps025 wrote: »

raw means no chalk right? or just no knee wraps/ straps?

I can't think of a federation that doesn't allow chalk. Most feds that I have heard of don't let you wear knee support during deadlift. Definitely no lifting straps.

Most feds go by something similar to the APF regulations:

Squat: Belt and wrist wraps allowed, no knee sleeves or knee wraps, hip crease must go below the top of your knee. Bar must not descend at any point during the lift after it has begun to ascend.

Bench Press: Belt and wrist wraps allowed, heels do not have to be in contact with the floor, butt and shoulders must stay in contact with the bench, bar must touch your chest and stop until the "press" command is given. Bar must come all the way up with elbows locked and not be racked until the "rack" command is given. Bar must not descend at any point during the lift after it has begun to ascend.

Deadlift: No knee wraps, no hitching, no lifting straps. Belt and wrist wraps allowed. Hook grip, double overhand and over/under grip are all allowed. Bar must come straight up to lockout w/ no descent after the bar has begun to ascend. Bar must be held until "lower" command is given.

Realistically, if you really want to gauge your strength in the gym it would be best to go by these standards IMO.

Choosing a federation to go by is hard though because of the subtle difference between them. If you go by the IPF which is probably the largest in the world, they allow knee sleeves. The best one to go by can be argued for ages with no one coming out the winner. I always just like to hear if squats were done with or without wraps because wraps can give you a major advantage (not that other equipment can't, this just seems to be a standard that is used to differentiate records).

I know my beliefs aren't the same as everyone else but, when I think of raw, I think of belt, sleeves or wraps, and even maybe even wrist wraps even though I don't utilize them myself. Chalk is also included.

I think raw should allow knee wraps, a belt and wrist wraps. If anything, I think that those pieces of equipment are necessary for safety. They do contribute somewhat to lifting heavier weights but they also have other utility whereas bench press shirts, squat suits and deadlift suits pretty much only serve 1 purpose for which they are exceedingly effective.

I think that raw should mean nothing. Maybe that is why I am so weak.

If you were strong you would probably be more inclined to agree with me. When you're lifting light weights, even though they may feel heavy to you, there is not nearly the potential for injury. When you have 650lbs on your back; however, the potential to blow out a knee, a hip or a disc is far greater even though you would be a lot stronger.

Update: Just got my 3 plates on DL! ...315, recently tested bench and am at 155 (just started really working on this lift as I am a Crossfitter and we spend more time on press)...going to re-test my 1 rep max this weekend. Expecting to hit 245-250, as I recently got a 235 pause squat just messing around. I am doing my first USAPL raw meet in a few weeks and am expecting to hit 700 but would love to hit 725. My training partner is going for 1000 and she's a chick!

910. Almost there.

Bench - 245
Squat - 350
Deadlift - 315

Bench - 250
Squat - 300
Deadlift - 385

935 total. Making it into the 1000lb club is a big part of my goals right now. I just PR'd on squats, and I'm looking to add 50lbs to my bench and 20lbs to my deadlift.

I have a herniated disc, so actually I may be nearing the limit of what I can do with my deadlift. But my bench can still go up quite a bit.

Repping >1000

Currently (into week 7 after 10 years off):
Bench (315x8) so maybe 400?
Squat (335x10) so maybe 425?
Deadlift (350x10) so maybe 450?

Best competition stats when I weighed 190:
Max Bench: 500
Max Squat: 405 (squats were never really strong)
Max Deadlift: 450
1355

I wonder if I actually worked on the deadlift what I might do. I am thinking of training the deadlift and really training hard on squats (both of which I never got serious in). I always liked bench because that was what I was good at beginning in Junior High. My first experience benching was a 275 max in 8th grade; but, my legs have always been pathetically behind.