herbalife. ... my truth (pros/cons)
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SianLouise185 wrote: »Food is one of the biggest addicitons on this planet, it is like a drug to some people.
The point of Herbal life is to take that away from someone completely, althought there are plans where meals are included, sure its expensive and sure eating is the better way but for some people who struggle to much to do it that way this may be the better option in the long run for them. If your not interested in trying it then dont come here and bash someones plan to give it ago, I know how frustrating it can be to lose weight, people will do anything, yes this may just be a money maker but if its working for her then leave her be! No doubt she's heard it all before, she knows its not all roses hence why she included a cons list, and Daniel thos ingredients are no longer in Herballife although yes your right they once where, you can stop stalking google for pointless information now.
Is food addiction a clinically diagnosed problem?
Is it a drug? Have you every been addicted to drugs? Do you know what it feels like to be a drug addict?
Addiction is a diagnosed problem, a person can become addicted to anything. Just because the public awareness isn't as high as Alcohol, drugs or gambling etc. doesn't mean it's not a problem.0 -
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SianLouise185 wrote: »Food is one of the biggest addicitons on this planet, it is like a drug to some people.
The point of Herbal life is to take that away from someone completely, althought there are plans where meals are included, sure its expensive and sure eating is the better way but for some people who struggle to much to do it that way this may be the better option in the long run for them. If your not interested in trying it then dont come here and bash someones plan to give it ago, I know how frustrating it can be to lose weight, people will do anything, yes this may just be a money maker but if its working for her then leave her be! No doubt she's heard it all before, she knows its not all roses hence why she included a cons list, and Daniel thos ingredients are no longer in Herballife although yes your right they once where, you can stop stalking google for pointless information now.
Is food addiction a clinically diagnosed problem?
Is it a drug? Have you every been addicted to drugs? Do you know what it feels like to be a drug addict?
Yes it is a clinically diagnosed problem, Its one of the biggest medical cost to the NHS, And yes i do, and it was eaier to beat that than it was to beat my problem with food.0 -
Abstraktimus wrote: »SianLouise185 wrote: »Food is one of the biggest addicitons on this planet, it is like a drug to some people.
The point of Herbal life is to take that away from someone completely, althought there are plans where meals are included, sure its expensive and sure eating is the better way but for some people who struggle to much to do it that way this may be the better option in the long run for them. If your not interested in trying it then dont come here and bash someones plan to give it ago, I know how frustrating it can be to lose weight, people will do anything, yes this may just be a money maker but if its working for her then leave her be! No doubt she's heard it all before, she knows its not all roses hence why she included a cons list, and Daniel thos ingredients are no longer in Herballife although yes your right they once where, you can stop stalking google for pointless information now.
Is food addiction a clinically diagnosed problem?
Is it a drug? Have you every been addicted to drugs? Do you know what it feels like to be a drug addict?
Addiction is a diagnosed problem, a person can become addicted to anything. Just because the public awareness isn't as high as Alcohol, drugs or gambling etc. doesn't mean it's not a problem.
You believe people are addicted to food? Or do they have a problem with self control?
I believe people can become addicted to anything. I don't think the boundaries of addiction are restricted. Does an alcoholic, smoker or drug-user have a problem with self control?0 -
It's interesting what people's opinions are and I Google it. I see a lot of bad and a lot of good, but that's life and I'm experiencing things for myself because that's what people do.
I keep hearing about eating right, and I am. However the things I can eat are not like yours die to health issues so I'm more limited. I did n do take your bias Google searches into account n look them up and it makes me think but I can't change the progress I've gained already. So I stick to my opinion.0 -
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Yes I think it's an issue with drug addicts and self control. That lack of self control leads to abuse and eventually mental and physical addiction. Just like it did with me when I was addicted for years.Abstraktimus wrote: »Abstraktimus wrote: »SianLouise185 wrote: »Food is one of the biggest addicitons on this planet, it is like a drug to some people.
The point of Herbal life is to take that away from someone completely, althought there are plans where meals are included, sure its expensive and sure eating is the better way but for some people who struggle to much to do it that way this may be the better option in the long run for them. If your not interested in trying it then dont come here and bash someones plan to give it ago, I know how frustrating it can be to lose weight, people will do anything, yes this may just be a money maker but if its working for her then leave her be! No doubt she's heard it all before, she knows its not all roses hence why she included a cons list, and Daniel thos ingredients are no longer in Herballife although yes your right they once where, you can stop stalking google for pointless information now.
Is food addiction a clinically diagnosed problem?
Is it a drug? Have you every been addicted to drugs? Do you know what it feels like to be a drug addict?
Addiction is a diagnosed problem, a person can become addicted to anything. Just because the public awareness isn't as high as Alcohol, drugs or gambling etc. doesn't mean it's not a problem.
You believe people are addicted to food? Or do they have a problem with self control?
I believe people can become addicted to anything. I don't think the boundaries of addiction are restricted. Does an alcoholic, smoker or drug-user have a problem with self control?
For someone who knows what addiction is, or claims to, i find it strange that you think it is limited to just drugs.0 -
Yes I think it's an issue with drug addicts and self control. That lack of self control leads to abuse and eventually mental and physical addiction. Just like it did with me when I was addicted for years.Abstraktimus wrote: »Abstraktimus wrote: »SianLouise185 wrote: »Food is one of the biggest addicitons on this planet, it is like a drug to some people.
The point of Herbal life is to take that away from someone completely, althought there are plans where meals are included, sure its expensive and sure eating is the better way but for some people who struggle to much to do it that way this may be the better option in the long run for them. If your not interested in trying it then dont come here and bash someones plan to give it ago, I know how frustrating it can be to lose weight, people will do anything, yes this may just be a money maker but if its working for her then leave her be! No doubt she's heard it all before, she knows its not all roses hence why she included a cons list, and Daniel thos ingredients are no longer in Herballife although yes your right they once where, you can stop stalking google for pointless information now.
Is food addiction a clinically diagnosed problem?
Is it a drug? Have you every been addicted to drugs? Do you know what it feels like to be a drug addict?
Addiction is a diagnosed problem, a person can become addicted to anything. Just because the public awareness isn't as high as Alcohol, drugs or gambling etc. doesn't mean it's not a problem.
You believe people are addicted to food? Or do they have a problem with self control?
I believe people can become addicted to anything. I don't think the boundaries of addiction are restricted. Does an alcoholic, smoker or drug-user have a problem with self control?
But wouldn't you say they are also addicted, which then leads to their lack of self control? If addiction is the problem, lack of self control a symptom.0 -
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SianLouise185 wrote: »
Yes I think it's an issue with drug addicts and self control. That lack of self control leads to abuse and eventually mental and physical addiction. Just like it did with me when I was addicted for years.Abstraktimus wrote: »Abstraktimus wrote: »SianLouise185 wrote: »Food is one of the biggest addicitons on this planet, it is like a drug to some people.
The point of Herbal life is to take that away from someone completely, althought there are plans where meals are included, sure its expensive and sure eating is the better way but for some people who struggle to much to do it that way this may be the better option in the long run for them. If your not interested in trying it then dont come here and bash someones plan to give it ago, I know how frustrating it can be to lose weight, people will do anything, yes this may just be a money maker but if its working for her then leave her be! No doubt she's heard it all before, she knows its not all roses hence why she included a cons list, and Daniel thos ingredients are no longer in Herballife although yes your right they once where, you can stop stalking google for pointless information now.
Is food addiction a clinically diagnosed problem?
Is it a drug? Have you every been addicted to drugs? Do you know what it feels like to be a drug addict?
Addiction is a diagnosed problem, a person can become addicted to anything. Just because the public awareness isn't as high as Alcohol, drugs or gambling etc. doesn't mean it's not a problem.
You believe people are addicted to food? Or do they have a problem with self control?
I believe people can become addicted to anything. I don't think the boundaries of addiction are restricted. Does an alcoholic, smoker or drug-user have a problem with self control?
For someone who knows what addiction is, or claims to, i find it strange that you think it is limited to just drugs.
It's not surprising that someone who has never been addicted to drugs thinks that it is such a valid comparison to put drugs against food. And no, I don't claim to know, I know. I don't put my past addiction problems in the forum for sympathy. Sympathy from a bunch of strangers is the last thing I need. 28 days in patient rehab (worse time of my life), 3 months of out patient and tons of NA meeting listening to the most depressing people in the world.Abstraktimus wrote: »
Yes I think it's an issue with drug addicts and self control. That lack of self control leads to abuse and eventually mental and physical addiction. Just like it did with me when I was addicted for years.Abstraktimus wrote: »Abstraktimus wrote: »SianLouise185 wrote: »Food is one of the biggest addicitons on this planet, it is like a drug to some people.
The point of Herbal life is to take that away from someone completely, althought there are plans where meals are included, sure its expensive and sure eating is the better way but for some people who struggle to much to do it that way this may be the better option in the long run for them. If your not interested in trying it then dont come here and bash someones plan to give it ago, I know how frustrating it can be to lose weight, people will do anything, yes this may just be a money maker but if its working for her then leave her be! No doubt she's heard it all before, she knows its not all roses hence why she included a cons list, and Daniel thos ingredients are no longer in Herballife although yes your right they once where, you can stop stalking google for pointless information now.
Is food addiction a clinically diagnosed problem?
Is it a drug? Have you every been addicted to drugs? Do you know what it feels like to be a drug addict?
Addiction is a diagnosed problem, a person can become addicted to anything. Just because the public awareness isn't as high as Alcohol, drugs or gambling etc. doesn't mean it's not a problem.
You believe people are addicted to food? Or do they have a problem with self control?
I believe people can become addicted to anything. I don't think the boundaries of addiction are restricted. Does an alcoholic, smoker or drug-user have a problem with self control?
But wouldn't you say they are also addicted, which then leads to their lack of self control? If addiction is the problem, lack of self control a symptom.
Honestly, no I wouldn't. It's a topic that will no time soon have a consensus. People can feel free to think food addiction is real but where I feel they don't get reality is when they start comparing it to drugs based on something they heard with no experience for themselves.
I clearly said to you before i have had an addiction myself and in the long run ive found it easier to over come that than i have with my battle with food. No ones mentioned sympathy here...0 -
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So how's this work, harderpa posts the testimonial and sianlouise comes in to make the sales? Is it even two separate people?
Strange that someone would post on a calorie counting website about how they don't count calories and Herbalife works for them. Geez if I didn't know better I'd think it was a sales pitch.
Take it somewhere else. We see this every day. Nobody wants your bad info, sales tactics, or magic shakes.
Like ive said a million times eating healthy is the better way but people shouldnt bash her for trying, everyones here for different reasons.0 -
''Take it somewhere else. We see this every day. Nobody wants your bad info, sales tactics, or magic shakes''
you say 'we' likes it YOUR my fitness pal? you dont own this site, she posted a thread, with pros and cons! and clearly people do want these products or it wouldnt be making so much money.
Im following a healthy lifestyle change, not a meal replacement diet but if she wants to do it let her.0 -
So how's this work, harderpa posts the testimonial and sianlouise comes in to make the sales? Is it even two separate people?
Strange that someone would post on a calorie counting website about how they don't count calories and Herbalife works for them. Geez if I didn't know better I'd think it was a sales pitch.
Take it somewhere else. We see this every day. Nobody wants your bad info, sales tactics, or magic shakes.
Well then. Herbalife sucks, agreed. Being a tosser about it, disagree.0 -
Abstraktimus wrote: »So how's this work, harderpa posts the testimonial and sianlouise comes in to make the sales? Is it even two separate people?
Strange that someone would post on a calorie counting website about how they don't count calories and Herbalife works for them. Geez if I didn't know better I'd think it was a sales pitch.
Take it somewhere else. We see this every day. Nobody wants your bad info, sales tactics, or magic shakes.
If Sian wasn't sitting next to me
or are you sitting next to me? hmm0 -
Lol @ "food addictions"-3
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SianLouise185 wrote: »
Show me your results... then I can take you seriously.-2 -
SianLouise185 wrote: »''Take it somewhere else. We see this every day. Nobody wants your bad info, sales tactics, or magic shakes''
you say 'we' likes it YOUR my fitness pal? you dont own this site, she posted a thread, with pros and cons! and clearly people do want these products or it wouldnt be making so much money.
Im following a healthy lifestyle change, not a meal replacement diet but if she wants to do it let her.
MyFitnessPal is a calorie counting website. That's it's function. She came on to a calorie counting website to say calorie counting doesn't work, try these expensive shakes instead.
That's advertising.
If I were to go on to a vegan website, and say I don't agree with that lifestyle and feel people should eat meat, what sort of response would I get? A poor one, because I'd deserve it for trolling, which is what this is. With a side of spam thrown in for good measure.
Herbalife is crap. It's a money making pyramid scheme designed by a high school dropout who was investigated for fraud and drank himself to death.
So no. I'm not much of a fan, and I don't think anyone should recommend it.
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SianLouise185 wrote: »
Show me your results... then I can take you seriously.
Wait, hold on? Isn't that why people are here.. to get results? Regardless of what people say or do, you shouldn't be putting anyone down for their opinions. If everyone had the same opinion, it would make the world a *kitten* place but taking the piss out of someone for having an opinion that differs from yours is a bit juvenile.
Question.. If someone suffers/suffered with bulimia, annorexia or any other eating disorder would you say lol @ "binging and purging" ??0 -
SianLouise185 wrote: »
Show me your results... then I can take you seriously.
You said lol @ food addiciton.. my results would be to show you the billions of people who need wight loss surgery every year, or all the people who turn to herblalife or other meal replacements, or thousands of other people who are struggling.
Food addiction is a real medical thing so yes you are uneducated if you think thats funny.
Its her choice if she wants to do this, it isnt trolling at all its freedom of speech.
I am not on or planning to go onto herbal life, but each to there own.0 -
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Lol at not accepting personal responsibility.SianLouise185 wrote: »
Same goes for your addicitons then right? you obviously think it was a choice, you could have stopped anytime but you chose to carry on? you wanted to go to rehab right?
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Its her choice if she wants to do this, it isnt trolling at all its freedom of speech.
That isn't how freedom of speech works.
As you'll see when her post is removed.
Whats so wrong with her putting a pro's and cons list? if you do a search on here theres hundreds of thing related to herbal life, none of which have been removed. Its 2014 say what you want, if she wants to do it then let her shes not the first and she wont be the last, all the people who are so against it... dont read it!0 -
and since when are there rules on freedom of speech? its a contradiction in its self.0
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SianLouise185 wrote: »and since when are there rules on freedom of speech? Ironic.
Sigh.
Freedom of speech means the government can't suppress speech. It doesn't mean that random websites have to let anyone post anything they want. That's why they have their own terms of service and rules. You should read them. You've violated them a few times in this thread alone. Her post has 9 flags at the moment. A moderator is gonna review it and most likely delete it.
Also that's not irony.
Sigh
My Fitness pal is a get fit website, nowhere in the terms of use does it say someone can't have a discussion about herbal life, Again theres hundreds of threads on this. I edited it to contradiction.-2
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