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MrTolerable wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »Normal healthy psychologically stable men like women who behave femininely and imho body hair is a masculine trait - because simply men have more facial and body hair then their counterpart.. it is that simple. so if women want a normal healthy man then they can accommodate this SOCIAL NORM.
Where are you getting this information? Just because that's your opinion doesn't mean everyone normal and psychologically stable feels the same.
Haha. I hope you're trolling. If not, I feel bad for your closed-minded views.
Social normalcy does not equate to a healthy individual.
I mean women made these exact comments on here as well and where is the vitriol attack on them?
I am getting that information making a large personal guesstimate that falls in line with others thinking as well - I am not being 'closed-minded' I am not saying if you don't shave you are making an ethical mistake - I will say though that being a women with body hair is being ill-mannered.
Its not feminine, and I have dated many many foreign women, my current gf is foreign and luckily they were not introduced to the feminist B/s that propagates these forums - Like grant it I am all in accord with women being equal in value to man, and having equal rights - BUT they are not the same as man - they are feminine while men are masculine... what I see now adays is male kids being total wimps and women strutten around with no bra rocking whiskers - its disgusting and backwards and it has to be stemmed from some sort of behavioral development disorder - prob your parents fault.
Women are equal to men, but they must be feminine and well mannered (by shaving for the pleasure of men).
Makes total sense.
You are like 22 years old. This 5 month long relationship that you have is the longest you've *ever* had. You use women as props and objects. You post highly personal text messages you receive on a public forum, rendering these women a joke, rather than a person. You brag about how many times you have sex with a woman on here, then whine when she doesn't leave at a certain time. You believe that to be a "real" woman, one must conform to your ideas of what that is. Otherwise, the woman is ill mannered. Rather than just being a unique human being.
You're disgusting, ignorant, close-minded and misogynistic - and I'm sorry I wasted any time in the past trying to help you.
ETA: I find it endlessly humorous that all your above behavior is acceptable (manner wise), but a woman not shaving isn't.0 -
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MrTolerable wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »chicks that don't shave are disgusting - what would you think if guys didn't shave their chest and groom their pleasure region?!
Talk about a double standard!!
Dont gaf what my boyfriend does with his chest and pleasure region hair.
Ironic your name is mrtolerable
I mean honestly I don't know if my gf would gaf either - but I respect her enough to groom myself just as she grooms herself.
Hair is dirty and disgusting and I'd say women with unkempt body-hair would fall under the same two adjectives describing hair.
Posted about body hair earlier in the thread.."It triggers disgust because it reminds humans how dangerous sex can be. And that’s why we shave it off. Because armpit hair betrays the western fantasy about sex, which is that sex is fun, pleasurable, innocent, and inconsequential, a fantasy that elides the evolutionary truth."
which makes sense considering you think looking for a man who wants more than a bed buddy is 'clearly an archaic sentiment'
^I don't see what your point is - sure it triggers disgust because it reminds humans of how dangerous sex is... I mean you could faq up your entire genetic line mating with the wrong person!
Western fantasy..about sex and hair.. Your comments about sex and hair are in line with the western fantasy. It makes sense that you find body hair disgusting because you also think wanting a life partner rather than a bed buddy is 'archaic.'
any of this making you see my point?
Your personal attack on me is off - bed buddies become friends who become girlfriends who become fiances who become spouses..
I have a girlfriend who is my only 'bed bud' right now, she was strictly my bed bud for about 5 months, then I started to really fall for her and likewise she become fond of only me and we became a couple... and maybe someday she will be more than my gf -REGARDLESS it has NOTHING at all to do with this discussion!!!
Western fantasy?! Like what are you even talking about? I just got suchi with a friend from Vietnam and another from Indonesia and a girl from france - guess what?! They ALL thought that women not shaving is disgusting, including the women from France!
This isn't strictly a 'Western Fantasy', and I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'fantasy'? Like you think western males view too much porn and have an unrealistic expectation of sex and women performance?
dude..it wasn't an attack. The quote from the article posted was a theory to explain why people may find women with hair disgusting. Considering all of your social norm is the way to go and other stated views (such as having a bed buddy..whether your intention is to make said buddy a life companion or not does not matter), you play in nicely with the article. That is all.
Well what is your point of western fantasy concerning sex? my point regarding porn?
For the record I am strongly anti-porn and agree 110% that it creates unrealistic expectations hinders both parties performance, and is highly unhealthy. - this was even just all on drudge report this morning
my view doesnt matter. It was a play on the quote from some woman about why some find hair disgusting because you, more so than anyone else in here it seems, find hair disgusting and also agree with other social norms of today's world. If you read the rest of the quote it explains the western fantasy "which is that sex is fun, pleasurable, innocent, and inconsequential, a fantasy that elides the evolutionary truth."
I am not anti-porn. I also find sex to be pleasurable and fun but not inconsequential. Again..that doesn't matter. You don't get it.0 -
mattyc772014 wrote: »Can we see this masked man?TheVirgoddess wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »Normal healthy psychologically stable men like women who behave femininely and imho body hair is a masculine trait - because simply men have more facial and body hair then their counterpart.. it is that simple. so if women want a normal healthy man then they can accommodate this SOCIAL NORM.
Where are you getting this information? Just because that's your opinion doesn't mean everyone normal and psychologically stable feels the same.
Haha. I hope you're trolling. If not, I feel bad for your closed-minded views.
Social normalcy does not equate to a healthy individual.
I mean women made these exact comments on here as well and where is the vitriol attack on them?
I am getting that information making a large personal guesstimate that falls in line with others thinking as well - I am not being 'closed-minded' I am not saying if you don't shave you are making an ethical mistake - I will say though that being a women with body hair is being ill-mannered.
Its not feminine, and I have dated many many foreign women, my current gf is foreign and luckily they were not introduced to the feminist B/s that propagates these forums - Like grant it I am all in accord with women being equal in value to man, and having equal rights - BUT they are not the same as man - they are feminine while men are masculine... what I see now adays is male kids being total wimps and women strutten around with no bra rocking whiskers - its disgusting and backwards and it has to be stemmed from some sort of behavioral development disorder - prob your parents fault.
Women are equal to men, but they must be feminine and well mannered (by shaving for the pleasure of men).
Makes total sense.
You are like 22 years old. This 5 month long relationship that you have is the longest you've *ever* had. You use women as props and objects. You post highly personal text messages you receive on a public forum, rendering these women a joke, rather than a person. You brag about how many times you have sex with a woman on here, then whine when she doesn't leave at a certain time. You believe that to be a "real" woman, one must conform to your ideas of what that is. Otherwise, the woman is ill mannered. Rather than just being a unique human being.
You're disgusting, ignorant, close-minded and misogynistic - and I'm sorry I wasted any time in the past trying to help you.
Number 1 - I am young - not relevant
Number 2 - I have had a 4yr relationship through college - not relevant
Number 3 - I will concede I used to view women a bit like an accessory like a watch - but it sounds worse than it is because I have a beautiful omega watch
just kidding I have a great deal of value for the role women play - not relevant
Number 4 - I posted how easy it was to get women over tinder blurring out their message, pictures and names and upon one request took it down - but regardless it was a good example of showing how well I communicate with women when I want an introduction - not relevant
Number 5 - false - never said how many times I have had sex with a women on here -not relevant
Number 6 - true although I would call it complaining because she would not leave MY apartment which seemed possessive on her part - not relevant
Number 7 - Not true at all - I just date women that actually are 'REAL' women not conforming to my idea's but rather not buying into the B/S macho feminist movement that North American women bought into which means I have dated many many women from different countries - but I didn't make them conform I just found women that behave like WOMEN not boysversionlight
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veronakings wrote: »we should start talking about bras. who still wears a bra? torture!
If I had better boobs I would never wear one. Ever. I do in public. It comes off as soon as I get home.0 -
MrTolerable wrote: »mattyc772014 wrote: »Can we see this masked man?TheVirgoddess wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »Normal healthy psychologically stable men like women who behave femininely and imho body hair is a masculine trait - because simply men have more facial and body hair then their counterpart.. it is that simple. so if women want a normal healthy man then they can accommodate this SOCIAL NORM.
Where are you getting this information? Just because that's your opinion doesn't mean everyone normal and psychologically stable feels the same.
Haha. I hope you're trolling. If not, I feel bad for your closed-minded views.
Social normalcy does not equate to a healthy individual.
I mean women made these exact comments on here as well and where is the vitriol attack on them?
I am getting that information making a large personal guesstimate that falls in line with others thinking as well - I am not being 'closed-minded' I am not saying if you don't shave you are making an ethical mistake - I will say though that being a women with body hair is being ill-mannered.
Its not feminine, and I have dated many many foreign women, my current gf is foreign and luckily they were not introduced to the feminist B/s that propagates these forums - Like grant it I am all in accord with women being equal in value to man, and having equal rights - BUT they are not the same as man - they are feminine while men are masculine... what I see now adays is male kids being total wimps and women strutten around with no bra rocking whiskers - its disgusting and backwards and it has to be stemmed from some sort of behavioral development disorder - prob your parents fault.
Women are equal to men, but they must be feminine and well mannered (by shaving for the pleasure of men).
Makes total sense.
You are like 22 years old. This 5 month long relationship that you have is the longest you've *ever* had. You use women as props and objects. You post highly personal text messages you receive on a public forum, rendering these women a joke, rather than a person. You brag about how many times you have sex with a woman on here, then whine when she doesn't leave at a certain time. You believe that to be a "real" woman, one must conform to your ideas of what that is. Otherwise, the woman is ill mannered. Rather than just being a unique human being.
You're disgusting, ignorant, close-minded and misogynistic - and I'm sorry I wasted any time in the past trying to help you.
Number 1 - I am young - not relevant
Number 2 - I have had a 4yr relationship through college - not relevant
Number 3 - I will concede I used to view women a bit like an accessory like a watch - but it sounds worse than it is because I have a beautiful omega watch just kidding I have a great deal of value for the role women play - not relevant
Number 4 - I posted how easy it was to get women over tinder blurring out their message, pictures and names and upon one request took it down - but regardless it was a good example of showing how well I communicate with women when I want an introduction - not relevant
Number 5 - false - never said how many times I have had sex with a women on here -not relevant
Number 6 - true although I would call it complaining because she would not leave MY apartment which seemed possessive on her part - not relevant
Number 7 - Not true at all - I just date women that actually are 'REAL' women not conforming to my idea's but rather not buying into the B/S macho feminist movement that North American women bought into which means I have dated many many women from different countries - but I didn't make them conform I just found women that behave like WOMEN not boysversionlight
Number 8 no one cares.
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blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »chicks that don't shave are disgusting - what would you think if guys didn't shave their chest and groom their pleasure region?!
Talk about a double standard!!
Dont gaf what my boyfriend does with his chest and pleasure region hair.
Ironic your name is mrtolerable
I mean honestly I don't know if my gf would gaf either - but I respect her enough to groom myself just as she grooms herself.
Hair is dirty and disgusting and I'd say women with unkempt body-hair would fall under the same two adjectives describing hair.
Posted about body hair earlier in the thread.."It triggers disgust because it reminds humans how dangerous sex can be. And that’s why we shave it off. Because armpit hair betrays the western fantasy about sex, which is that sex is fun, pleasurable, innocent, and inconsequential, a fantasy that elides the evolutionary truth."
which makes sense considering you think looking for a man who wants more than a bed buddy is 'clearly an archaic sentiment'
^I don't see what your point is - sure it triggers disgust because it reminds humans of how dangerous sex is... I mean you could faq up your entire genetic line mating with the wrong person!
Western fantasy..about sex and hair.. Your comments about sex and hair are in line with the western fantasy. It makes sense that you find body hair disgusting because you also think wanting a life partner rather than a bed buddy is 'archaic.'
any of this making you see my point?
Your personal attack on me is off - bed buddies become friends who become girlfriends who become fiances who become spouses..
I have a girlfriend who is my only 'bed bud' right now, she was strictly my bed bud for about 5 months, then I started to really fall for her and likewise she become fond of only me and we became a couple... and maybe someday she will be more than my gf -REGARDLESS it has NOTHING at all to do with this discussion!!!
Western fantasy?! Like what are you even talking about? I just got suchi with a friend from Vietnam and another from Indonesia and a girl from france - guess what?! They ALL thought that women not shaving is disgusting, including the women from France!
This isn't strictly a 'Western Fantasy', and I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'fantasy'? Like you think western males view too much porn and have an unrealistic expectation of sex and women performance?
dude..it wasn't an attack. The quote from the article posted was a theory to explain why people may find women with hair disgusting. Considering all of your social norm is the way to go and other stated views (such as having a bed buddy..whether your intention is to make said buddy a life companion or not does not matter), you play in nicely with the article. That is all.
Well what is your point of western fantasy concerning sex? my point regarding porn?
For the record I am strongly anti-porn and agree 110% that it creates unrealistic expectations hinders both parties performance, and is highly unhealthy. - this was even just all on drudge report this morning
my view doesnt matter. It was a play on the quote from some woman about why some find hair disgusting because you, more so than anyone else in here it seems, find hair disgusting and also agree with other social norms of today's world. If you read the rest of the quote it explains the western fantasy "which is that sex is fun, pleasurable, innocent, and inconsequential, a fantasy that elides the evolutionary truth."
I am not anti-porn. I also find sex to be pleasurable and fun but not inconsequential. Again..that doesn't matter. You don't get it.
No I get your point, and and agree obviously that it is pleasurable and fun - innocent and inconsequential however no obviously not - but I don't know anyone that thinks sex is innocent and inconsequential aside from fictional characters in movies and TV shows. Ppl tend to actually behave quite traditionally/conservatively - nothing wrong with that either.
As for porn I should have elaborated more - in moderation - whatevs - but it has truly reached epidemic proportions and the males brain has not been developed to handle processing thousands of potential mates - it is damaging highly damaging and there are many psychologist talking about this. If you read about it males that view porn 4 times per week are basically faqed and 4 times a week is pretty low for most of the gentleman I know.0 -
TheVirgoddess wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »MrTolerable wrote: »Normal healthy psychologically stable men like women who behave femininely and imho body hair is a masculine trait - because simply men have more facial and body hair then their counterpart.. it is that simple. so if women want a normal healthy man then they can accommodate this SOCIAL NORM.
Where are you getting this information? Just because that's your opinion doesn't mean everyone normal and psychologically stable feels the same.
Haha. I hope you're trolling. If not, I feel bad for your closed-minded views.
Social normalcy does not equate to a healthy individual.
I mean women made these exact comments on here as well and where is the vitriol attack on them?
I am getting that information making a large personal guesstimate that falls in line with others thinking as well - I am not being 'closed-minded' I am not saying if you don't shave you are making an ethical mistake - I will say though that being a women with body hair is being ill-mannered.
Its not feminine, and I have dated many many foreign women, my current gf is foreign and luckily they were not introduced to the feminist B/s that propagates these forums - Like grant it I am all in accord with women being equal in value to man, and having equal rights - BUT they are not the same as man - they are feminine while men are masculine... what I see now adays is male kids being total wimps and women strutten around with no bra rocking whiskers - its disgusting and backwards and it has to be stemmed from some sort of behavioral development disorder - prob your parents fault.
Women are equal to men, but they must be feminine and well mannered (by shaving for the pleasure of men).
Makes total sense.
You are like 22 years old. This 5 month long relationship that you have is the longest you've *ever* had. You use women as props and objects. You post highly personal text messages you receive on a public forum, rendering these women a joke, rather than a person. You brag about how many times you have sex with a woman on here, then whine when she doesn't leave at a certain time. You believe that to be a "real" woman, one must conform to your ideas of what that is. Otherwise, the woman is ill mannered. Rather than just being a unique human being.
You're disgusting, ignorant, close-minded and misogynistic - and I'm sorry I wasted any time in the past trying to help you.
ETA: I find it endlessly humorous that all your above behavior is acceptable (manner wise), but a woman not shaving isn't.
Ew.. Just ew.0 -
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wolfsbayne wrote: »RedArizona5 wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »RedArizona5 wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »RedArizona5 wrote: »
Well here is a very debatable topic, because its speaking as if everyone existed from an evolutionary stand point. Having a religious perspective on a forum not about religion isn't a good idea. So I won't go their into debating against evolution with you or others but its just not what everyone believes. We all believe in something different so…just saying to say through evolutionary ways it is the way it is is not a good idea because it isn't - Im not on some high horse saying how dare-im saying if i came on here and said that my FATHER in heaven who created us made us natural for this and that reasons but i didn't because well I'm not up for debating for hours on end VS debating why people have to attack my responses when all i did was give good opinions and advice in a neutral matter for hours too. hehe. No angst here.Here's an excerpt from Why Are We Grossed Out by Women With Armpit Hair? by Lisa Miller of NY Mag:
"Evolutionarily speaking, sex is the whole game. Sex with the wrong person can kill you and your genetic line – through disease, infertility, misfortune. With the right person, it can assure that your genes are transmitted to the next generation. Armpit hair signals sex because it grows during puberty and is one of the first signs of maturity (and fertility). And it signals sex because it transmits the scents that lead to mating. It triggers disgust because it reminds humans how dangerous sex can be. And that’s why we shave it off. Because armpit hair betrays the western fantasy about sex, which is that sex is fun, pleasurable, innocent, and inconsequential, a fantasy that elides the evolutionary truth."
evolution isn't just a theory anymore. genetics change over generations. it happens. its fact. fact is not debatable.
Its not a fact and it is, won't accept your religious view of apes to humans theory. Religion whether its evolution or not shouldn't be brought on here because of this right here or did you want to argue with me some more? Your loving this arguing don't you? Because you want to get the last word dontchya?
just can't get enough of me can ya girl?
I can smell a jezebel spirit a mile away
so you are southern. edit to include..i made the comment because of the use of the word jezebel. nothing more.
actual evolution..as in genetic change over generations (which is what the person above was referring to) has been proven as fact. its not debatable. its not a religious view.
Still disagree and you your word or my word doesn't make evolution any truer then it is. See told you it wasn't a good idea but here you are still stcking your foot in your mouth as well leenajean
Please don't be southern
Hey, there's nothing wrong with being Southern lol
A lot of us aren't as closed minded. :P0 -
i quit wearing bras about a year ago and it was totally worth it. my boobs look a million times better and no back pain! i'm a personal chef, so i am pretty covered up at work. i feel bad for women who have to dress business casual/profession 9-5. sometimes i wear a sports bra, but a target sports bra w/ spaghetti straps, or a regular bra when i'm dressing up/going out. i think all women should try it out for a month just to see how they feel.blktngldhrt wrote: »veronakings wrote: »we should start talking about bras. who still wears a bra? torture!
If I had better boobs I would never wear one. Ever. I do in public. It comes off as soon as I get home.0 -
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Women are equal to men, but they must be feminine and well mannered (by shaving for the pleasure of men).
Makes total sense.
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Ew.. Just ew. [/quote]
- No women ARE largely feminine, and many women ARE well mannered - the shaving is not strictly 'for the pleasure of men' that is a crock - all the women I have dated shaved their body hair prior to dating me not FOR me - reason being might be due to a cultural norm? IDK and IDC because it is a norm.
Your reasoning and logic is grounded in B/s macho feminist circular reasoning mumbo jumbo ...it reminds me of Bill Burr latest comedy sketch regarding 'yes means no & no means yes' and chocking, and hair pulling - his comments were dead on.
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wolfsbayne wrote: »RedArizona5 wrote: »
I'm not attacking you. I would just rather you not be from the south, as am I.
I see what you were saying about the south now. My bad. haha.0 -
MrTolerable wrote: »
Women are equal to men, but they must be feminine and well mannered (by shaving for the pleasure of men).
Makes total sense.
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Ew.. Just ew. [/quote]
- No women ARE largely feminine, and many women ARE well mannered - the shaving is not strictly 'for the pleasure of men' that is a crock - all the women I have dated shaved their body hair prior to dating me not FOR me - reason being might be due to a cultural norm? IDK and IDC because it is a norm.
Your reasoning and logic is grounded in B/s macho feminist circular reasoning mumbo jumbo ...it reminds me of Bill Burr latest comedy sketch regarding 'yes means no & no means yes' and chocking, and hair pulling - his comments were dead on.
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Shaving might be your norm but it is clearly not the norm.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »
Shaving might be your norm but it is clearly not the norm.
da faq?0 -
I really want to know? Mr. Tolerable is that a red tie?0
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MrTolerable wrote: »
Women are equal to men, but they must be feminine and well mannered (by shaving for the pleasure of men).
Makes total sense.
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Ew.. Just ew. [/quote]
- No women ARE largely feminine, and many women ARE well mannered - the shaving is not strictly 'for the pleasure of men' that is a crock - all the women I have dated shaved their body hair prior to dating me not FOR me - reason being might be due to a cultural norm? IDK and IDC because it is a norm.
Your reasoning and logic is grounded in B/s macho feminist circular reasoning mumbo jumbo ...it reminds me of Bill Burr latest comedy sketch regarding 'yes means no & no means yes' and chocking, and hair pulling - his comments were dead on.
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I wouldn't consider myself a feminist. You're just misinterpreting almost everything I've said thus far..because you assume I'm a feminist0 -
I tweeze a couple of hairs on my face, too.
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blktngldhrt wrote: »
I wouldn't consider myself a feminist. You're just misinterpreting almost everything I've said thus far..because you assume I'm a feminist
why are women so afraid of calling themselves a feminist? feminism is wonderful, and endlessly interesting. something you might be interested in learning about is intersectional feminism. also, just saying, whether or not a dude cares about shaved legs is NOT a feminist issue. it's just obnoxious. like who cares what this man thinks?? anyone?? nah0
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