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Okay piling on for cookies...
"If they want a cookie I will make them from stratch instead of buying the ones that come in a box is all I am saying."
Chocolate Chip Cookie
1 cup butter, softened - Separated, Enzyme added, pasteurized, aged, washed, salted
1 cup white sugar - Really? What isn't done to process white sugar?
1 cup packed brown sugar - white sugar with molasses...which is also a process
2 eggs - U.S. eggs are chemically washed
2 teaspoons vanilla extract - You make a chemical tincture of vanilla in pure alcohol
3 cups all-purpose flour - Yep, pure bleached flour. Nope, no chemicals here.
1 teaspoon baking soda - You mean NaHCO3? (Imagine the 3 is dropped)
2 teaspoons hot water - Tap water frequently has fluoride and either chlorine or chloramine.
1/2 teaspoon salt - The sea salt purification or salt mine purification process?
2 cups semisweet chocolate chips - First you process the cocoa powder. Then you add the processed fats and sugars to process semi-sweet chocolate chips.
1 cup chopped walnuts - Soaked, husked, dried and sprayed for pests
So what part of an unprocessed cookie are you going to feed your kid?
I think I love you.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Jennloella wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ruqayyahsmum wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.
Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?
i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food
Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.
They are autistic - so obviously it is.
Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.
How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.
comparing mental/social health with the physical health of a child? oh boy......autism is not diabetes. asperger's is not high blood pressure. come on.
Fine, the mind is not part of the body. It's not worth hijacking a thread over. I concede the point.
What? First of all, we are talking about physical health. Secondly, autism is not 'unhealthy' in any case.
You are misusing a word. Please learn more about something before you make such an ignorant statement.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ruqayyahsmum wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.
Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?
i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food
Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.
They are autistic - so obviously it is.
Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.
How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.
What? First of all, we are talking about physical health. Secondly, autism is not 'unhealthy' in any case.
You are misusing a word. Please learn more about something before you make such an ignorant statement.
Okay, I went to several online dictionaries and looked up healthy. It means having good health. Health is difined (in these dictionaries) as being free from disease, illness and injury.0 -
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Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child. [/quote]
They are autistic - so obviously it is.
Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.[/quote]
How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.[/quote]
Type I diabetic here...
Just finished my first half marathon in November, training for a full right now.
My labs are within normal range, cholesterol and weight are great and my A1c (average 3 month blood glucose estimate) are fantastic.
I'd consider myself healthy, but carry a diagnosis.
Suppose it depends on your definition of "healthy"...Tread lightly around here-have you been on the forums before? LoL.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ruqayyahsmum wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.
Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?
i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food
Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.
They are autistic - so obviously it is.
Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.
How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.
What? First of all, we are talking about physical health. Secondly, autism is not 'unhealthy' in any case.
You are misusing a word. Please learn more about something before you make such an ignorant statement.
Okay, I went to several online dictionaries and looked up healthy. It means having good health. Health is difined (in these dictionaries) as being free from disease, illness and injury.
You just need to stop.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ruqayyahsmum wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.
Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?
i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food
Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.
They are autistic - so obviously it is.
Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.
How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.
What? First of all, we are talking about physical health. Secondly, autism is not 'unhealthy' in any case.
You are misusing a word. Please learn more about something before you make such an ignorant statement.
Okay, I went to several online dictionaries and looked up healthy. It means having good health. Health is difined (in these dictionaries) as being free from disease, illness and injury.
You still do not get it...and finding a definition of the word healthy is not 'learning about something'.
Also, your premise is ridiculous in any event. So, we are excluding kids with asthma, eczema, broken bones, cuts, bruises, hay fever now. Actually, according to you we apparently need to exclude kids with ADD and dyslexia because they are 'not healthy'. Seems like a pretty small pool to draw from - also seems like you are talking out of complete and utter ignorance.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ruqayyahsmum wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.
Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?
i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food
Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.
They are autistic - so obviously it is.
Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.
How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.
What? First of all, we are talking about physical health. Secondly, autism is not 'unhealthy' in any case.
You are misusing a word. Please learn more about something before you make such an ignorant statement.
Okay, I went to several online dictionaries and looked up healthy. It means having good health. Health is difined (in these dictionaries) as being free from disease, illness and injury.
You just need to stop.
Take a look at their profile. This individual is a forum troll...
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ruqayyahsmum wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.
Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?
i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food
Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.
They are autistic - so obviously it is.
Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.
How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.
What? First of all, we are talking about physical health. Secondly, autism is not 'unhealthy' in any case.
You are misusing a word. Please learn more about something before you make such an ignorant statement.
Okay, I went to several online dictionaries and looked up healthy. It means having good health. Health is difined (in these dictionaries) as being free from disease, illness and injury.
You still do not get it...and finding a definition of the word healthy is not 'learning about something'.
Also, your premise is ridiculous in any event. So, we are excluding kids with asthma, eczema, broken bones, cuts, bruises, hay fever now. Seems like a pretty small pool to draw from.
Huh?? I have no idea what you are talking about. I never suggested excluding anyone from anything.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ruqayyahsmum wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.
Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?
i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food
Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.
They are autistic - so obviously it is.
Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.
How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.
What? First of all, we are talking about physical health. Secondly, autism is not 'unhealthy' in any case.
You are misusing a word. Please learn more about something before you make such an ignorant statement.
Okay, I went to several online dictionaries and looked up healthy. It means having good health. Health is difined (in these dictionaries) as being free from disease, illness and injury.
You still do not get it...and finding a definition of the word healthy is not 'learning about something'.
Also, your premise is ridiculous in any event. So, we are excluding kids with asthma, eczema, broken bones, cuts, bruises, hay fever now. Seems like a pretty small pool to draw from.
Huh?? I have no idea what you are talking about. I never suggested excluding anyone from anything.
Read what you wrote originally. Also...that's what you get from my post? Really? Really?0 -
BrownEyedBetty wrote: »I hear this so much and it really boggles my mind. When I hear a parent who is trying to have a more active and heathy life say well I buy those special treats for my kids. So it's ok for your children to eat that crap that is so called food and not you? Don't you want your children to grow up and have a healthy relationship with real food? Gogurt is not a food, little debbie cakes are not food, sugary fruit snack are not food. I want my future kids to love eating vegetables and fruits and have a diverse food palate.
Any thoughts?
LOL...when you have children then talk to me! I laughed SOOOOO hard! I have a 4 year old that LOVES fruit but HATES vegetables...seriously get anything green around my son and he acts like he is dying! I have come up with ways to sneak in and hide vegetables in other meals he likes, and as long as he doesn't see me cook it I'm in the clear...clever boy! My son is very healthy right in the norm every well visit and guess WHAT...he eats those so called crap snacks along with fruits too! Guess I'm a horrible mother....it's enough that parents doubt themselves several times a day....leave your snide comments to yourself until you yourself are a parent....then you can talk.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ruqayyahsmum wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.
Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?
i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food
Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.
They are autistic - so obviously it is.
Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.
How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.
What? First of all, we are talking about physical health. Secondly, autism is not 'unhealthy' in any case.
You are misusing a word. Please learn more about something before you make such an ignorant statement.
Okay, I went to several online dictionaries and looked up healthy. It means having good health. Health is difined (in these dictionaries) as being free from disease, illness and injury.
Autism is neither a disease, illness or injury.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ruqayyahsmum wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »The other kid maintains a list of four foods that she will actually eat. Currently those are pepperoni pizza, grilled cheese sandwich, Mr. Noodles "soup", and fried egg sandwich. Anything not on the list will not be eaten, and it is not possible to out-patient this kid.
Are you suggesting that if you didn't provide these 4 foods, this child would not eat anything at home, ever?
i know a mum whos teen son is severly autistic. he will only eat chicken dippers and ketchup. nothing else at all anywhere passes his lips. his mum has to provide them to his special school and to his respite centre. Hes seen specialists and theyve tried stratagies but other foods really are a no go, he would rather go hungry. some kids and adults really do have severe issues around food
Seems like this child's issues are more than just with food. I assumed the poster to which I replied was talking about a healthy child.
They are autistic - so obviously it is.
Autistic children are just as 'healthy' as non-autistic btw.
How can you carry a medical diagnosis and be "healthy"? It seems a misuse of the word.
What? First of all, we are talking about physical health. Secondly, autism is not 'unhealthy' in any case.
You are misusing a word. Please learn more about something before you make such an ignorant statement.
Okay, I went to several online dictionaries and looked up healthy. It means having good health. Health is difined (in these dictionaries) as being free from disease, illness and injury.
You still do not get it...and finding a definition of the word healthy is not 'learning about something'.
Also, your premise is ridiculous in any event. So, we are excluding kids with asthma, eczema, broken bones, cuts, bruises, hay fever now. Seems like a pretty small pool to draw from.
Huh?? I have no idea what you are talking about. I never suggested excluding anyone from anything.
Oh, the irony.
It should be obvious from the social cues that you are making these comments to folks with extremely personal experience with autism. This would be a good time to *ask* instead of *tell*.
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I'm not a parent and have no strong opinions on this tbh - but when I am around my close friends who have young children, those kids will seriously tear down a raw veggie platter like nobody's business...3 yr old twins scarfing broccoli & carrots for days. Not even kidding. Those same kids get *OCCASIONAL* fast food and Oreo truffles and ice cream and fruit snacks. Much like with adults, moderation works.0
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My apologies to anyone who thought I was in some way insulting, desparaging, excluding or any other negative verbing children with autism. So very very far from my point.0
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Clay Marzo is a professional athlete with ASD. Looks pretty healthy to me...
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TheVirgoddess wrote: »BrownEyedBetty wrote: »I mean to offend no one. I'm just saying I personally would not feed that stuff to my children even with a balanced diet. If they want a
cookie I will make them from stratch instead of buying the ones that come in a box is all I am saying
I love the declarations of non-parents about how they will parent. It's adorable.
^^ love ^^
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apparations wrote: »I was over at a friend's one day a year or two ago, and I noticed that she gave her 2 year old a microwaved frozen dinner consisting of chicken fingers and fries. I didn't say anything to her, but later I was at my Mom's and I said something like "How can she give such a young child food that is so terrible for her?!" My Mom, wisely, said never to judge until you have kids of your own... then you will get it. I'm sure she is right. It is hard for me to see two obese parents feeding their child food that might make her overweight too someday, but you know what... it's none of my business.
i do understand your point, although i do believe that there are times when people either (a) don't know and understand how poor their diet is or (b) they do not have the means by which to prepare healthier foods. i used to give my children those meals of which you speak, but only because they were 80cents and that's all i had. i do feel fortunate that now i have a bit more money and can afford a more healthy diet for my children, so they do eat better now than they did when they were younger. that is about 50% due to my past ignorance and subsequent learning about healthy diets and 50% due to having the financial ability to change things. i definitely think that what others do in their homes is absolutely no one else's business, and i would never say anything or judge someone else's food choices.
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ha.. ya know.. A healthy relationship with food means that they can look at a little Debbie and not cry, they can eat one and not run to the bathroom to purge and they know that having that slice of cake or tube of gogurt (really?? I can think of so many things that are worse for you then gogurt..) won't kill them or make them any less able to stay healthy and fit. It means knowing that if you eat the "right" foods most of the time, those snacks won't kill you. My son eats super healthy dinners, mostly healthy lunches (salami and gogurt oh my! along with his fruit, yogurt, granola bar etc..) and breakfast is hit or miss. He also has garbage foods.. because if he doesn't learn how to manage them and how to eat properly at home and not over indulge, then he will end up fat and miserable.. I'd rather watch him eat a few thin mints a day then an entire box in one sitting because "he never get to eat that stuff"0
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Okay piling on for cookies...
"If they want a cookie I will make them from stratch instead of buying the ones that come in a box is all I am saying."
Chocolate Chip Cookie
1 cup butter, softened - Separated, Enzyme added, pasteurized, aged, washed, salted
1 cup white sugar - Really? What isn't done to process white sugar?
1 cup packed brown sugar - white sugar with molasses...which is also a process
2 eggs - U.S. eggs are chemically washed
2 teaspoons vanilla extract - You make a chemical tincture of vanilla in pure alcohol
3 cups all-purpose flour - Yep, pure bleached flour. Nope, no chemicals here.
1 teaspoon baking soda - You mean NaHCO3? (Imagine the 3 is dropped)
2 teaspoons hot water - Tap water frequently has fluoride and either chlorine or chloramine.
1/2 teaspoon salt - The sea salt purification or salt mine purification process?
2 cups semisweet chocolate chips - First you process the cocoa powder. Then you add the processed fats and sugars to process semi-sweet chocolate chips.
1 cup chopped walnuts - Soaked, husked, dried and sprayed for pests
So what part of an unprocessed cookie are you going to feed your kid?
That is not the recipe I use, I ise this
http://www.beginwithinnutrition.com/2014/04/07/chickpea-chocolate-chip-cookies-vegan-gluten-free/
Kids have no idea when they come to my house they are made from chickpeas, and they are normally the first thing to go.0
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