Why deprive yourself of delicious foods?
ocaudle8912
Posts: 13
Okay, so be prepared for a rant.
Why do people deprive themselves of foods like chocolate, fried stuff, whatever when on a diet? These foods are not the enemy! The person eating them lacks self control, which is the true enemy. I hate going through my news feed and seeing people say "I never go out to eat" "I don't eat that trash" and I'm like dude moderation is key, not deprivation.
I'm determined to show people that you can lose weight and eat "trash" whenever you please. Again, it's all about moderation.
Why do people deprive themselves of foods like chocolate, fried stuff, whatever when on a diet? These foods are not the enemy! The person eating them lacks self control, which is the true enemy. I hate going through my news feed and seeing people say "I never go out to eat" "I don't eat that trash" and I'm like dude moderation is key, not deprivation.
I'm determined to show people that you can lose weight and eat "trash" whenever you please. Again, it's all about moderation.
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Why do you assume people think they can't eat foods you find delicious just because they choose not to?-3
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I cut fried foods out because I felt like it and I don't care who has a problem with it.
I am happy to be eating a healthy diet, losing weight and exercising. It's hard at first, but it gets easier. Now I prefer it.
If other people look down their noses because I'm not having a Reese's cup and McNuggets every day, that's their problem and not mine.
I didn't clean up my diet because I'm seeking approval from others, lol. I did it for me. I'm happy with it and proud of myself. If the Rabid Moderation crowd wants to make fun of it, let them. It makes them happy and I don't care about their approval, lol, so win-win.
I still eat delicious food, too! It's just not drowning in grease and salt. My idea of "delicious" has changed and the things I loved before don't taste nearly as good now. I'd RATHER have the real berries than the Crunch Berries. No deprivation. -2 -
It's difficult to eat these food in moderation. Once you start, you just can't stop. Eating them a little bit "whenever" doesn't work with some people.-1
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WHY ARE ALL THE POSTS DISAGREEING WITH OP FLAGGED?!?!?! OP can have her OPINION but others cant?-1
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You do you OP, if it works for others let them.
Now go ahead and flag my post.0 -
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People will flag anything. I saw someone get flagged for congratulating another poster on their weight loss.WHY ARE ALL THE POSTS DISAGREEING WITH OP FLAGGED?!?!?! OP can have her OPINION but others cant?
I frequently advise seeing a doctor as part of your weight loss plan or when someone has a physical issue. There are people who flag it just because they don't like hat I suggest that, lol.
Then there are Flag Wars. I have actually laughed out loud twice watching flags pop up in threads. First one side starts flagging, then the other side starts flagging. It's kind of funny sometimes. Flag...flag...flag.
Someone messaged me to let me know most of my posts were being flagged. Someone out there sits and flags every post other people make. That's a little sad and goes beyond the giggling. It doesn't bother me, but I am not laughing at that person. I hope that person finds joy and peace. Just laughing at the general flagging, which is funny sometimes. -5 -
I'm new here. What the consequence of getting flagged?0
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I "deprive" myself of certain things because I have no self-control around them. It's... really not rocket science. I have a goal, and I'm not going to reach that goal if I'm binging on four bagels a night or five ounces of cheese with lunch.-1
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I'm new here. What the consequence of getting flagged?
My understanding is that the moderators will check it out. If they find a post that violates the forum rules, they can remove it and possibly give the poster a 'strike' of some sort. If you get enough strikes, you can be banned from the forums. But a flag is not a strike.
Also, the mods can see who flags a post. I'm not sure if they have any penalties for excessive inappropriate flagging, but I would not be surprised if that starts soon given the way some people seem to flag just for fun, causing more work for the mods.0 -
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I believe over flagging is against MFP rules, but I could be wrong.
OP: I eat what ever I want in moderation, I have reverse my heart issues, which people said it wouldn't happen unless I cut sugar and carbs, those evil process foods, ice cream, etc, lol, I guess I proved them wrong.
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I try to be good during the week, but on my "cheat" day all bets are off. I love fried and greasy food, but I realize I can't hit my goal while eating it every day. If I gave up my guilty pleasures completely, there's no way I'd suck to my plan. I'm disciplined, but if I don't have a tasty reward for that discipline then it ain't worth it to me. Just my $.020
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because demonizing foods as "bad" and then blaming weight gain on them, then makes it easier to jut 100% restrict said foods and use them as a crutch ...
when you boil it down there are no good and bad foods. What matters is your overall diet...context and dosage is important, not individual food choices...
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because demonizing foods as "bad" and then blaming weight gain on them, then makes it easier to jut 100% restrict said foods and use them as a crutch ...
when you boil it down there are no good and bad foods. What matters is your overall diet...context and dosage is important, not individual food choices...
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crimsonpaw wrote: »I try to be good during the week, but on my "cheat" day all bets are off. I love fried and greasy food, but I realize I can't hit my goal while eating it every day. If I gave up my guilty pleasures completely, there's no way I'd suck to my plan. I'm disciplined, but if I don't have a tasty reward for that discipline then it ain't worth it to me. Just my $.02
alternate suggestion ...
if you ate a little of what you liked each day, maybe you would not feel the need to have a "all bets are off blow out" once a week ...
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I think it may have something to do with all the weight loss "information" out there - television shows (biggest loser), ads, workout DVDs, diets, marketing methods.. most of it suggests to the public that you can't lose weight while eating these things. People tend to believe what they are told unless they are smart or curious enough to look it up for themselves. Sheep mentality.0
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because demonizing foods as "bad" and then blaming weight gain on them, then makes it easier to jut 100% restrict said foods and use them as a crutch ...
when you boil it down there are no good and bad foods. What matters is your overall diet...context and dosage is important, not individual food choices...
Bingo.0 -
samantha1242 wrote: »I think it may have something to do with all the weight loss "information" out there - television shows (biggest loser), ads, workout DVDs, diets, marketing methods.. most of it suggests to the public that you can't lose weight while eating these things. People tend to believe what they are told unless they are smart or curious enough to look it up for themselves. Sheep mentality.
agree...pseudo science + broscience + fitness industry = mass misinformation ...0 -
samantha1242 wrote: »I think it may have something to do with all the weight loss "information" out there - television shows (biggest loser), ads, workout DVDs, diets, marketing methods.. most of it suggests to the public that you can't lose weight while eating these things. People tend to believe what they are told unless they are smart or curious enough to look it up for themselves. Sheep mentality.
Yep....that's what I see through out these forums!!0 -
I love when people say to me "are you allowed to eat that while trying to lose weight"
Yes I can, as long as I don't eat the whole bag or box, etc.0 -
I am not cutting out junk food 100% but I am trying to eat more fruits and veggies. I have IBS so for me cutting back on junk makes me feel better physically.0
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I find it easier to allow one day. Also, when I say "all bets are off", that's not to say I enter into a 13000 calories eat-a-thon, it just means that I allow myself to avoid focusing so hard on my food choices for a meal or two.
alternate suggestion ...
if you ate a little of what you liked each day, maybe you would not feel the need to have a "all bets are off blow out" once a week ...
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What is "on a diet"? My diet is quite healthy. I do choose to avoid some foods that, in my opinion, are not that nutritious. But that isn't deprivation. For example, I think McDonald's food is crap. To each his own, but I choose never to eat there. I've also chosen to find healthier alternatives to some foods like fried foods. That again isn't deprivation. I do believe in moderation. I do eat out all the time, especially on weekends.0
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
Took the words right out of my mouth.-1 -
ocaudle8912 wrote: »Okay, so be prepared for a rant.
Why do people deprive themselves of foods like chocolate, fried stuff, whatever when on a diet? These foods are not the enemy! The person eating them lacks self control, which is the true enemy. I hate going through my news feed and seeing people say "I never go out to eat" "I don't eat that trash" and I'm like dude moderation is key, not deprivation.
I'm determined to show people that you can lose weight and eat "trash" whenever you please. Again, it's all about moderation.
This. All of it. Seriously. My diary is open, anyone who wants to is welcome to look at it. I eat chocolate, I eat pizza, I eat things that a lot of people may consider "trash." But guess what, I'm still losing, because I eat at a calorie deficit. That's all that matters. It's really that simple.0 -
It's because we moralize what we eat. When we categorize foods between the polarities of "good" and "bad," it creates a black and white thinking where our choices are a reflection of ourselves. We're "good" for eating this and "bad" for eating that. Deprivation and restriction means you've been "good," so in this kind of black and white thinking you're either perfect for making good choices or you're bad because you've allowed yourself to eat something that is "bad" for you. There's no allowance for a grey area where you're allowed to eat everything, whether it's categorized as healthy or unhealthy, good or bad, in moderation.
It's an easy mindset to get trapped in. You're either perfect, or completely out of control. It takes a while to unlearn this kind of thinking and to look at it more as "No food is either good or bad"--I'm still struggling to internalize that idea, but I'm trying to think of it more as this: I'm not a bad person for wanting chocolate and allowing myself to have it, every day if I want to, but in smaller amounts than I would usually allow. It's better than restricting and then spiralling into an out-of-control binge once I taste the smallest bite because, in this kind of mindset, once I've been "bad" I give myself tacit permission to keep going because once I've ruined the "perfect" day it's all over.0
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