Please read - 4 week no progress

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  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    OP - normal water fluctuations. It gets worse as you get close to TOM.
  • amlynn16
    amlynn16 Posts: 20 Member
    TOM does make a difference. People tend to make a misconception that muscle weighs more then fat. 1 lb is 1 lb. Its like say 1 ton of bricks weighs more then 1 ton of feathers. In the end we don't lose the weight as much as we would like because the goal is to gain the muscle to replace the fat. The 1st go around of losing weight for me I found that it can be normal to not necessarily lose a lot of weight if any if you're starting an exercise regiment.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    amlynn16 wrote: »
    TOM does make a difference. People tend to make a misconception that muscle weighs more then fat. 1 lb is 1 lb. Its like say 1 ton of bricks weighs more then 1 ton of feathers. In the end we don't lose the weight as much as we would like because the goal is to gain the muscle to replace the fat. The 1st go around of losing weight for me I found that it can be normal to not necessarily lose a lot of weight if any if you're starting an exercise regiment.

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    Muscle is DENSER than fat. Better?

    Either way, the misconception isn't that notion, it's that people can build muscle at a deficit.
  • Brolympus
    Brolympus Posts: 360 Member
    OP, stop obsessing with a number on a scale. Weight measures everything in your body. Your last couple meals. Water you might be retaining. Muscle you might have added.

    Keep lifting. Keep doing your cardio. Keep logging. Progress pics help in 2-3 month intervals. But please just stop with the scale. If your goal is to just lose pounds, that can be accomplished with a laxative. If your goal is to lose fat, that is complicated to actually measure without expensive body comp scanning machines.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    jimbmc wrote: »
    Why are you lifting?...Do you weigh/log everything? Are you sticking to a 500Cal minimum daily deficit?

    Best advice: Stop lifting. Do 30 days of cardio (30 Day Shred is a good place to start), Stick to a Calorie deficit Diet. Eat balanced. Eat every 2-3 hours. (Bfast>Fruit snack>Lunch>Fruitsnack>Dinner>Protein Shake>Snack). Train for 4 days, take one day off. Rinse and repeat.

    If you are trying to get a toned athletic look, then you need to reduce your body fat percentage before you start trying to build/improve muscle definition, otherwise your never going to see any real difference. And as for Calorie Burn, 60 mins of Cardio will burn about 1000 calories, whereas 60 mins of intermittent Lifting will burn about 400 Calories. High Intensity Cardio Interval Training is the best way to Burn calories/fat/energy and improve heart/lung function as well as toning muscle.

    This has to be the worse advice I have ever read on MFP.

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  • jimeads
    jimeads Posts: 7 Member
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    jimbmc wrote: »
    I don't know what planet one would burn 1000 calories during cardio, but we're on Earth here.

    Actually it is possible. I am overweight and carrying around the extra weight increases calorie burn during cardio. Think of it like I'm strapping on a 50 pound backpack and going out for a run. On a good day I can do 5 miles in 60 minutes. I use Endomondo Sports Tracker and it says that is 1,011 calories.

    So, if you want to burn a lot of calories doing cardio, just eat a whole lot and put on 50 pounds or so! :)
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    jimeads wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    jimbmc wrote: »
    I don't know what planet one would burn 1000 calories during cardio, but we're on Earth here.

    Actually it is possible. I am overweight and carrying around the extra weight increases calorie burn during cardio. Think of it like I'm strapping on a 50 pound backpack and going out for a run. On a good day I can do 5 miles in 60 minutes. I use Endomondo Sports Tracker and it says that is 1,011 calories.

    So, if you want to burn a lot of calories doing cardio, just eat a whole lot and put on 50 pounds or so! :)
    So you think a sport tracker that uses a GPS in your phone is accurate? Sorry, unless you're an athlete, achieving a 1000 calories an hour burn is very difficult, NOT AVERAGE, as that person was implying
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    edited January 2015
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    jimeads wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    jimbmc wrote: »
    I don't know what planet one would burn 1000 calories during cardio, but we're on Earth here.

    Actually it is possible. I am overweight and carrying around the extra weight increases calorie burn during cardio. Think of it like I'm strapping on a 50 pound backpack and going out for a run. On a good day I can do 5 miles in 60 minutes. I use Endomondo Sports Tracker and it says that is 1,011 calories.

    So, if you want to burn a lot of calories doing cardio, just eat a whole lot and put on 50 pounds or so! :)
    So you think a sport tracker that uses a GPS in your phone is accurate? Sorry, unless you're an athlete, achieving a 1000 calories an hour burn is very difficult, NOT AVERAGE, as that person was implying

    Get that fitness level up buddy.
  • jimeads
    jimeads Posts: 7 Member
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    jimeads wrote: »
    Liftng4Lis wrote: »
    jimbmc wrote: »
    I don't know what planet one would burn 1000 calories during cardio, but we're on Earth here.

    Actually it is possible. I am overweight and carrying around the extra weight increases calorie burn during cardio. Think of it like I'm strapping on a 50 pound backpack and going out for a run. On a good day I can do 5 miles in 60 minutes. I use Endomondo Sports Tracker and it says that is 1,011 calories.

    So, if you want to burn a lot of calories doing cardio, just eat a whole lot and put on 50 pounds or so! :)
    So you think a sport tracker that uses a GPS in your phone is accurate? Sorry, unless you're an athlete, achieving a 1000 calories an hour burn is very difficult, NOT AVERAGE, as that person was implying

    Actually yes I do think it is accurate. I have used several different GPS units and they agree within about 1%. I've also measured the route I use on a bike and it agrees. So, unless they are all wrong the same amount they are pretty accurate. And, I did not say it was AVERAGE, I said it was possible.
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  • Nearly cried upon reading that I should stop lifting weights - so glad everyone agreed! I actually do crossfit which is about 10 mins core work, 20 mins lifting and 15-20 mins HIIT in the form of circuit training. I wish I had the time to add a run in too but an hour a day (actually 1.5 hours with travel time) is as much as I can spare. I have started walking to work and back which is giving me an hours walk a day and will need to start running at least one of my non gym days - I used to run a lot in my thinner days and I just need to get back to it.


    In terms of logging, you are all right, I need to be stricter. However, I am certainly eating less than before so i should at worst be maintaining, it seems unfair to be gaining again! I literally cannot eat any less or I would be starving, perhaps need to try eating at more regular intervals/a bit less carbs but overall my diet is pretty good.

    I think I need to keep perservering. I have bodyweight scales but they are not very good. I don't like to measure as I am good at pulling the tape too tight. I love the idea of trying on clothes that are too tight. I have a dress with absoltuely zero stretch in it which just about fitted me when I was at my slimmest and right now it does't get past my hips. I will try it on weekly.

    Thanks again for all your comments, encouragement, tips and time. I really appreciate it. You are all great!
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    When did you start doing Crossfit? Was it recently?
  • xXBabyBelleXx
    xXBabyBelleXx Posts: 110 Member
    zoecmc wrote: »
    Hi have you been checking your measurements? As your shape may have changed x

    if you are useless at measuring like me you can use what i called test shorts. i put on these shorts that were too tight on me every two weeks, until one day they just fell off. this really helped me when i start getting frustrated with my scales.


    This is good advice, im in the same boat as OP. Almost 4 weeks of MFP and ive lost 1ib and then put it back on the next day ?! but anyway, i've now lowered my calorie goal and still weighing in once a week.

    The one thing that i'm finding is instead of losing weight my old tight clothes are now starting to fit normally again, so I must be losing it for somewhere - so this is keeping me motivated. :-)

    I have a little red shift-dress that i'm hoping to be able to wear again soon as the last time I wore it, it was far too tight and looked hideous :-/
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    When did you start doing Crossfit? Was it recently?

    I have been doing crossfit for 6 months but was a very slow start due to rehabilitating an old lower back injury (no lifting just lots of stretching and mobility). I would say I have only started doing full on crossfit like normal people since the new year which is also when I started to log.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
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    When did you start doing Crossfit? Was it recently?

    I have been doing crossfit for 6 months but was a very slow start due to rehabilitating an old lower back injury (no lifting just lots of stretching and mobility). I would say I have only started doing full on crossfit like normal people since the new year which is also when I started to log.

    Normal people are not that active. You are already ahead of some. :star:

  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    cdiponio87 wrote: »
    Running/Jogging (4 times a week) in conjunction with 1500 cals daily = weight loss.
    Do not randomly recommend calorie levels without information on someone's height, weight, activity level, goals, etc. Everyone's calorie goal should be personal.
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
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    When did you start doing Crossfit? Was it recently?

    I have been doing crossfit for 6 months but was a very slow start due to rehabilitating an old lower back injury (no lifting just lots of stretching and mobility). I would say I have only started doing full on crossfit like normal people since the new year which is also when I started to log.


    Well then you probably aren't retaining water from starting a new program. I would suggest opening your diary so people can get a better idea of what your daily calorie consumption is.
  • I have no idea about the science behind losing weight. However, I do know that we should be lifting one another up and motivating each other with our comments/advice. If one gives advice that we do not all agree with, its OK. Redirect them. Let them know In a friendly, and factual manner why the information provided is incorrect. Let's help build up not tear down. On that note, have a blessed day, eat well, workout, live, laugh, and love!
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    I have no idea about the science behind losing weight. However, I do know that we should be lifting one another up and motivating each other with our comments/advice. If one gives advice that we do not all agree with, its OK. Redirect them. Let them know In a friendly, and factual manner why the information provided is incorrect. Let's help build up not tear down. On that note, have a blessed day, eat well, workout, live, laugh, and love!

    Thank you for sharing your lack of information with the OP.
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  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    I have no idea about the science behind losing weight. However, I do know that we should be lifting one another up and motivating each other with our comments/advice. If one gives advice that we do not all agree with, its OK. Redirect them. Let them know In a friendly, and factual manner why the information provided is incorrect. Let's help build up not tear down. On that note, have a blessed day, eat well, workout, live, laugh, and love!

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  • Tydeclare44
    Tydeclare44 Posts: 572 Member
    SLEEP!

    Just stick with what you are doing, but get at least 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep a night and drink enough water and I almost guarantee the weight will fall back off. Our body has this amazing function to hold onto fat when we beat the dog piss out of it, and with the already stressful environment you are in with lifting and dieting and worrying about not losing weight, I'm sure all you need is some sleep. Best of luck OP!
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    sodium, TOM, ovulation, change-up in exercise, dehydration

    - add to the weighing - are you careful with the entries you choose, double checking them, never using other people's 'homemade' versions etc

    Agree with this. Give it some time.

    You also mention that you have 14lbs to lose and so it's not like you don't have a lot to lose. 14lbs may seem like a lot to you, but in the big picture, it isn't that much. I would set your goals to lose half a pound a week (I'm not sure what your current goal is). But, if you did choose to lose 2lbs per week, you might be undereating for your activity level, which could increase stress on your body, cortisol levels, which can cause water retention.

    Make sure your goals are reasonable, and try to not let the minor weight fluctuations bother you. They can happen. If I have a big or salty meal, I can gain 5-8lbs in one day. It's water weight and drops off over the next few days.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    I have no idea about the science behind losing weight. However, I do know that we should be lifting one another up and motivating each other with our comments/advice. If one gives advice that we do not all agree with, its OK. Redirect them. Let them know In a friendly, and factual manner why the information provided is incorrect. Let's help build up not tear down. On that note, have a blessed day, eat well, workout, live, laugh, and love!

    Thank you for sharing your lack of information with the OP.
    :lol:

  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    The scale fluctuates ALL THE TIME. Do not use that as your only benchmark for progress.
  • SLEEP!

    Just stick with what you are doing, but get at least 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep a night and drink enough water and I almost guarantee the weight will fall back off. Our body has this amazing function to hold onto fat when we beat the dog piss out of it, and with the already stressful environment you are in with lifting and dieting and worrying about not losing weight, I'm sure all you need is some sleep. Best of luck OP!

    That is a good point - Get up early for gym but try to sleep early too but doesnt always happen. Also going through a pretty stressful time right now with family related stuff - not much I can do to control that but for the first time in my life I have not turned to food for comfort.
  • I
    When did you start doing Crossfit? Was it recently?

    I have been doing crossfit for 6 months but was a very slow start due to rehabilitating an old lower back injury (no lifting just lots of stretching and mobility). I would say I have only started doing full on crossfit like normal people since the new year which is also when I started to log.


    Well then you probably aren't retaining water from starting a new program. I would suggest opening your diary so people can get a better idea of what your daily calorie consumption is.

    I have opened it. please be gentle.
  • auddii wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    sodium, TOM, ovulation, change-up in exercise, dehydration

    - add to the weighing - are you careful with the entries you choose, double checking them, never using other people's 'homemade' versions etc

    Agree with this. Give it some time.

    You also mention that you have 14lbs to lose and so it's not like you don't have a lot to lose. 14lbs may seem like a lot to you, but in the big picture, it isn't that much. I would set your goals to lose half a pound a week (I'm not sure what your current goal is). But, if you did choose to lose 2lbs per week, you might be undereating for your activity level, which could increase stress on your body, cortisol levels, which can cause water retention.

    Make sure your goals are reasonable, and try to not let the minor weight fluctuations bother you. They can happen. If I have a big or salty meal, I can gain 5-8lbs in one day. It's water weight and drops off over the next few days.

    Thanks - this is really encouraging
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    SLEEP!

    Just stick with what you are doing, but get at least 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep a night and drink enough water and I almost guarantee the weight will fall back off. Our body has this amazing function to hold onto fat when we beat the dog piss out of it, and with the already stressful environment you are in with lifting and dieting and worrying about not losing weight, I'm sure all you need is some sleep. Best of luck OP!

    That is a good point - Get up early for gym but try to sleep early too but doesnt always happen. Also going through a pretty stressful time right now with family related stuff - not much I can do to control that but for the first time in my life I have not turned to food for comfort.

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