Anyone Trying Whey Protein For Weight Loss?

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  • MrM27 wrote: »
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    kyta32 wrote: »
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    You people that are arguing over my post on Whey Protein are a new kind of ridiculous if you read my actual post I wasn't asking for advice I stated "I am interested in following other women who are using it and seeing how the results are working for them" so unless you are a woman and using Whey Protein then your comments are totally irrelevant to this post and just for the record I may be new to MFP but I am in no way new to fitness. I never said there was a magic weight loss pill although Whey isn't a pill and in all regards there are lots of magic weight loss pills they just aren't good for your health. I also stated Whey helps me feel full and I don't have craving anymore so I was looking for WOMEN who have the same result or to see if their result was different after trying it. I'm very sorry I hurt all you men's feelings who take Whey and think your now going to lose weight and have to become defensive. I wasnt talking to you to begin with. Thanks for the support of those who get what I am saying.

    Lol. Awwwww, she thinks she sets the rules around here.

    You may have stated what you did in your OP but that doesn't negate that you made some pretty frivolous claims.

    Also, in for magic weight loss pills.

    I didn't know there were rules to even be set around here. I thought I could ask to talk to women about whey without you getting all up in my business. Sad that you can't go on social media without people wanting to argue for no reason and over things that don't affect them at all. Truth be told you're not concerned about this post you simply like to argue as it must make you feel superior in some way. Here's some facts for you and why I am interested in the results of other WOMEN who are trying it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2289832/
    http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20110715/whey-protein-may-be-helpful-for-weight-loss
    The first study funded by the company promoting the product. Seems impartial. Also weight loss was basically the same while muscle "retention" wasn't even 1 lb. More protein helps preserve lbm? Revolutionary. You read all 150 pages?

    The second study funded by the diary industry. Once again, very impartial I see. Same results as the first. And if you didn't notice there were men in that study. I thought you only were talking about women?

    Don't play the "trying to be superior because I'm a woman" card. Gender does not apply when corrected false claims.

    It's obvious to me that you will argue about anything so I am done. The facts are there and thats why I am interested. I am interested on the effects in women because I am a woman although I don't have to explain myself to you. I am not interested however in your nonsense any longer. I have better things to do. Go "try" to pick on someone else I see you do a lot of that in this group by your other post to other people. Get over yourself and move along and get a real life outside of MFP.

    This isn't a group, though. It's a public forum. Not sure what you mean you see him do that a lot in the group.

    Also, I don't think the insult was necessary, especially as what he's saying in regards to protein is still valid.

    I think some great advice for you in this regard, is to stop trying to restrict what information you take away by gender and instead really see what is being said.

    I think she was asking for female friends to add who are using the same weight loss technique as she is, so they can compare notes. Kinda like a "anyone else doing keto?" post. Lots of people have gender preferences in friends, it is more about focusing than restricting information. There's just some things that women experience that men don't (and vice versa).
    Thank you and exactly... I was asking if anyone uses Whey Protein just like I would say does anybody eat Healthy Choice. I'm not saying it's a cure all I'm saying I'm finding when I drink one protein shake a day of Isopure first thing when I wake up that I am finding I am less hungry and my cravings have stopped and I am able to take in less calories and still feel good because of that. I don't eat protein shakes all day I'm simply drinking one and adding it to my daily calorie count. I know everybody is not the same so that is why I was asking for people who were doing the same thing as I was just simply interested in their results and wanted to follow them on here and be supportive and see if it was working for them. I also just weighed myself for the week and I lost yet again another 5 lbs using whey protein in my diet so I'm really not here to argue if it will help you with weight loss because I am doing it and it's working. It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    If you are consistently losing 5lbs a week you are either extremely overweight or severely restricting your calories which isn't healthy.

    Whey doesn't help you magically lose extra weight. As has been reiterated it's just a useful way to increase your protein intake which may make you feel less hungers.

    You still need to eat a healthy amount of food.

    Someone link the sexypants thread please. I can't I'm on my phone.
    I absolutely understand what you are saying and my calorie intake is around 900-1000 a day. I eat the shake for breakfast, a snack, lunch, a snack, dinner and a snack and I drink 8-10 glasses of water a day oh yeah and my coffee :). I understand that is low for calories but right now I feel perfectly fine there because I am just not hungry because of the Whey (which I was always hungry before the whey) and if I start to not feel fine with those calories I will take in more calories for sure. I'm not afraid of calories I am just not hungry now. My goal of loosing weight isn't that far away but I will continue even after that with the whey because it does help me balance my eating and my cravings. I feel 100% better since I started using it.

    Now Iunderstand why you are getting so upset with me for stating facts when you insist on wearing blinders about how things work, you're hungry. 900-1000 calories a day is a terrible idea. There is no way you are getting proper nutrition. Feeling fine is not a good indicator you you are doing things right. 1 moment you feel fine then next you're not. And then you have problems on your hands you could have avoided.

    Feel free to get made at me for chiming in again because I'm a man. Like it or not, I'm Right.

    Lol ok then.... I'm not hungry as I just stated. I'm a female and I don't need as many calories as you so especially if you lift weights. But I'm done arguing with you. You can feel anyway you want about it. it doesn't change the fact that it is helping me. I don't recommend that people use the same calorie intake as I do. I eat that now because that's what I feel good eating right now and I am sure it will go up eventually but stay maintained. My daily diet includes egg white, grilled chicken, bread, veggies, turkey meat, nuts and fruits etc. I'm not starving and I feel good. I'm so over this whey argument so you have a good day.

    Pay attention to how many women have told you whey doesn't do what you claim. Also pay attention to how many women come in here and tell you the caloric intake you've chosen is dumb. You can disregard the advice a man gives you because he's a man but that's ignorant. You think the only readings, research, application and analyzing I don't is on myself, a man? Come on now.

    You can say you feel good now and that you're doing everything right. But you wouldn't be the first woman to say that here and be wrong.

    I never said that this was a good calorie intake. I agreed with the person above and said I understood that. I am well aware it is below what I should have. I am not arguing that point with you at all and I'm just not hungry but I know I will be that's why I said it will go up. My point is whey is making me not hungry. Before whey my calories intake was 2,000 or over a day but that's why I am so interested in whey because I would have never lost this weight without taking it. I have a micro preemie in my home who has health issues with failure to thrive so everything in my house has been calorie dense food to try to help her gain weight. I get hungry and I eat her food to because that's what's on hand it it looks good. But since I started using whey I can totally make her food for her and not be hungry and want to eat it with her. Everyone comes from a different place and things work differently for everyone. As I said I'm not saying a low calorie intake is good I'm just saying whey is really curving my appetite and I find it interesting and that's it.

    You what???

    Let's see, you say you would eat 2000 calories and didn't lose weight but now you're eating 900-1000 but using Whey protein but it's the protein that is responsible for the weight loss. Not the caloric deficit?

    Your not listening. Of course it the caloric deficit but the reason I am taking in less calories is because I drink one whey protein shake first thing in the morning and it is curving my appetite so I am eating less. Eating less equal weight loss. Whey makes me eat less.

    Ingesting more protein leaves you feel less hungry, do you think that only applies to women?
    Oh my goodness you found something new to argue about. You must really like wasting your day away with me... How cute

    FYI - You make it easy.

    How about the revs up your metabolism statement?

    I'm glad you think I'm easy to talk to. I'm here for ya buddy.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    kyta32 wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    You people that are arguing over my post on Whey Protein are a new kind of ridiculous if you read my actual post I wasn't asking for advice I stated "I am interested in following other women who are using it and seeing how the results are working for them" so unless you are a woman and using Whey Protein then your comments are totally irrelevant to this post and just for the record I may be new to MFP but I am in no way new to fitness. I never said there was a magic weight loss pill although Whey isn't a pill and in all regards there are lots of magic weight loss pills they just aren't good for your health. I also stated Whey helps me feel full and I don't have craving anymore so I was looking for WOMEN who have the same result or to see if their result was different after trying it. I'm very sorry I hurt all you men's feelings who take Whey and think your now going to lose weight and have to become defensive. I wasnt talking to you to begin with. Thanks for the support of those who get what I am saying.

    Lol. Awwwww, she thinks she sets the rules around here.

    You may have stated what you did in your OP but that doesn't negate that you made some pretty frivolous claims.

    Also, in for magic weight loss pills.

    I didn't know there were rules to even be set around here. I thought I could ask to talk to women about whey without you getting all up in my business. Sad that you can't go on social media without people wanting to argue for no reason and over things that don't affect them at all. Truth be told you're not concerned about this post you simply like to argue as it must make you feel superior in some way. Here's some facts for you and why I am interested in the results of other WOMEN who are trying it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2289832/
    http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20110715/whey-protein-may-be-helpful-for-weight-loss
    The first study funded by the company promoting the product. Seems impartial. Also weight loss was basically the same while muscle "retention" wasn't even 1 lb. More protein helps preserve lbm? Revolutionary. You read all 150 pages?

    The second study funded by the diary industry. Once again, very impartial I see. Same results as the first. And if you didn't notice there were men in that study. I thought you only were talking about women?

    Don't play the "trying to be superior because I'm a woman" card. Gender does not apply when corrected false claims.

    It's obvious to me that you will argue about anything so I am done. The facts are there and thats why I am interested. I am interested on the effects in women because I am a woman although I don't have to explain myself to you. I am not interested however in your nonsense any longer. I have better things to do. Go "try" to pick on someone else I see you do a lot of that in this group by your other post to other people. Get over yourself and move along and get a real life outside of MFP.

    This isn't a group, though. It's a public forum. Not sure what you mean you see him do that a lot in the group.

    Also, I don't think the insult was necessary, especially as what he's saying in regards to protein is still valid.

    I think some great advice for you in this regard, is to stop trying to restrict what information you take away by gender and instead really see what is being said.

    I think she was asking for female friends to add who are using the same weight loss technique as she is, so they can compare notes. Kinda like a "anyone else doing keto?" post. Lots of people have gender preferences in friends, it is more about focusing than restricting information. There's just some things that women experience that men don't (and vice versa).
    Thank you and exactly... I was asking if anyone uses Whey Protein just like I would say does anybody eat Healthy Choice. I'm not saying it's a cure all I'm saying I'm finding when I drink one protein shake a day of Isopure first thing when I wake up that I am finding I am less hungry and my cravings have stopped and I am able to take in less calories and still feel good because of that. I don't eat protein shakes all day I'm simply drinking one and adding it to my daily calorie count. I know everybody is not the same so that is why I was asking for people who were doing the same thing as I was just simply interested in their results and wanted to follow them on here and be supportive and see if it was working for them. I also just weighed myself for the week and I lost yet again another 5 lbs using whey protein in my diet so I'm really not here to argue if it will help you with weight loss because I am doing it and it's working. It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    If you are consistently losing 5lbs a week you are either extremely overweight or severely restricting your calories which isn't healthy.

    Whey doesn't help you magically lose extra weight. As has been reiterated it's just a useful way to increase your protein intake which may make you feel less hungers.

    You still need to eat a healthy amount of food.

    Someone link the sexypants thread please. I can't I'm on my phone.
    I absolutely understand what you are saying and my calorie intake is around 900-1000 a day. I eat the shake for breakfast, a snack, lunch, a snack, dinner and a snack and I drink 8-10 glasses of water a day oh yeah and my coffee :). I understand that is low for calories but right now I feel perfectly fine there because I am just not hungry because of the Whey (which I was always hungry before the whey) and if I start to not feel fine with those calories I will take in more calories for sure. I'm not afraid of calories I am just not hungry now. My goal of loosing weight isn't that far away but I will continue even after that with the whey because it does help me balance my eating and my cravings. I feel 100% better since I started using it.

    Now Iunderstand why you are getting so upset with me for stating facts when you insist on wearing blinders about how things work, you're hungry. 900-1000 calories a day is a terrible idea. There is no way you are getting proper nutrition. Feeling fine is not a good indicator you you are doing things right. 1 moment you feel fine then next you're not. And then you have problems on your hands you could have avoided.

    Feel free to get made at me for chiming in again because I'm a man. Like it or not, I'm Right.

    Lol ok then.... I'm not hungry as I just stated. I'm a female and I don't need as many calories as you so especially if you lift weights. But I'm done arguing with you. You can feel anyway you want about it. it doesn't change the fact that it is helping me. I don't recommend that people use the same calorie intake as I do. I eat that now because that's what I feel good eating right now and I am sure it will go up eventually but stay maintained. My daily diet includes egg white, grilled chicken, bread, veggies, turkey meat, nuts and fruits etc. I'm not starving and I feel good. I'm so over this whey argument so you have a good day.

    Pay attention to how many women have told you whey doesn't do what you claim. Also pay attention to how many women come in here and tell you the caloric intake you've chosen is dumb. You can disregard the advice a man gives you because he's a man but that's ignorant. You think the only readings, research, application and analyzing I don't is on myself, a man? Come on now.

    You can say you feel good now and that you're doing everything right. But you wouldn't be the first woman to say that here and be wrong.

    I never said that this was a good calorie intake. I agreed with the person above and said I understood that. I am well aware it is below what I should have. I am not arguing that point with you at all and I'm just not hungry but I know I will be that's why I said it will go up. My point is whey is making me not hungry. Before whey my calories intake was 2,000 or over a day but that's why I am so interested in whey because I would have never lost this weight without taking it. I have a micro preemie in my home who has health issues with failure to thrive so everything in my house has been calorie dense food to try to help her gain weight. I get hungry and I eat her food to because that's what's on hand it it looks good. But since I started using whey I can totally make her food for her and not be hungry and want to eat it with her. Everyone comes from a different place and things work differently for everyone. As I said I'm not saying a low calorie intake is good I'm just saying whey is really curving my appetite and I find it interesting and that's it.

    You what???

    Let's see, you say you would eat 2000 calories and didn't lose weight but now you're eating 900-1000 but using Whey protein but it's the protein that is responsible for the weight loss. Not the caloric deficit?

    Your not listening. Of course it the caloric deficit but the reason I am taking in less calories is because I drink one whey protein shake first thing in the morning and it is curving my appetite so I am eating less. Eating less equal weight loss. Whey makes me eat less.

    Ingesting more protein leaves you feel less hungry, do you think that only applies to women?

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  • fawlty70
    fawlty70 Posts: 22 Member
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.

    Thanks! All I can testify to myself is that it makes me less hungry. I only said other because I read it in an article. I didn't know it was going to upset anyone just looking for others opinions that were doing the same. I like MFP except this thread haha! It's a great way to keep track of things :)

    So which kind of whey protein are you using? I've read so many reviews and opinions that at this point I just want to pick one and go with it. Might as well pick yours.
  • trina1049
    trina1049 Posts: 593 Member
    kyta32 wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    You people that are arguing over my post on Whey Protein are a new kind of ridiculous if you read my actual post I wasn't asking for advice I stated "I am interested in following other women who are using it and seeing how the results are working for them" so unless you are a woman and using Whey Protein then your comments are totally irrelevant to this post and just for the record I may be new to MFP but I am in no way new to fitness. I never said there was a magic weight loss pill although Whey isn't a pill and in all regards there are lots of magic weight loss pills they just aren't good for your health. I also stated Whey helps me feel full and I don't have craving anymore so I was looking for WOMEN who have the same result or to see if their result was different after trying it. I'm very sorry I hurt all you men's feelings who take Whey and think your now going to lose weight and have to become defensive. I wasnt talking to you to begin with. Thanks for the support of those who get what I am saying.

    Lol. Awwwww, she thinks she sets the rules around here.

    You may have stated what you did in your OP but that doesn't negate that you made some pretty frivolous claims.

    Also, in for magic weight loss pills.

    I didn't know there were rules to even be set around here. I thought I could ask to talk to women about whey without you getting all up in my business. Sad that you can't go on social media without people wanting to argue for no reason and over things that don't affect them at all. Truth be told you're not concerned about this post you simply like to argue as it must make you feel superior in some way. Here's some facts for you and why I am interested in the results of other WOMEN who are trying it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2289832/
    http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20110715/whey-protein-may-be-helpful-for-weight-loss
    The first study funded by the company promoting the product. Seems impartial. Also weight loss was basically the same while muscle "retention" wasn't even 1 lb. More protein helps preserve lbm? Revolutionary. You read all 150 pages?

    The second study funded by the diary industry. Once again, very impartial I see. Same results as the first. And if you didn't notice there were men in that study. I thought you only were talking about women?

    Don't play the "trying to be superior because I'm a woman" card. Gender does not apply when corrected false claims.

    It's obvious to me that you will argue about anything so I am done. The facts are there and thats why I am interested. I am interested on the effects in women because I am a woman although I don't have to explain myself to you. I am not interested however in your nonsense any longer. I have better things to do. Go "try" to pick on someone else I see you do a lot of that in this group by your other post to other people. Get over yourself and move along and get a real life outside of MFP.

    This isn't a group, though. It's a public forum. Not sure what you mean you see him do that a lot in the group.

    Also, I don't think the insult was necessary, especially as what he's saying in regards to protein is still valid.

    I think some great advice for you in this regard, is to stop trying to restrict what information you take away by gender and instead really see what is being said.

    I think she was asking for female friends to add who are using the same weight loss technique as she is, so they can compare notes. Kinda like a "anyone else doing keto?" post. Lots of people have gender preferences in friends, it is more about focusing than restricting information. There's just some things that women experience that men don't (and vice versa).
    Thank you and exactly... I was asking if anyone uses Whey Protein just like I would say does anybody eat Healthy Choice. I'm not saying it's a cure all I'm saying I'm finding when I drink one protein shake a day of Isopure first thing when I wake up that I am finding I am less hungry and my cravings have stopped and I am able to take in less calories and still feel good because of that. I don't eat protein shakes all day I'm simply drinking one and adding it to my daily calorie count. I know everybody is not the same so that is why I was asking for people who were doing the same thing as I was just simply interested in their results and wanted to follow them on here and be supportive and see if it was working for them. I also just weighed myself for the week and I lost yet again another 5 lbs using whey protein in my diet so I'm really not here to argue if it will help you with weight loss because I am doing it and it's working. It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    If you are consistently losing 5lbs a week you are either extremely overweight or severely restricting your calories which isn't healthy. You are not perfectly fine, you are damaging your body.

    Whey doesn't help you magically lose extra weight. As has been reiterated it's just a useful way to increase your protein intake which may make you feel less hungers.

    You still need to eat a healthy amount of food.

    Someone link the sexypants thread please. I can't I'm on my phone.
    I absolutely understand what you are saying and my calorie intake is around 900-1000 a day. I eat the shake for breakfast, a snack, lunch, a snack, dinner and a snack and I drink 8-10 glasses of water a day oh yeah and my coffee :). I understand that is low for calories but right now I feel perfectly fine there because I am just not hungry because of the Whey (which I was always hungry before the whey) and if I start to not feel fine with those calories I will take in more calories for sure. I'm not afraid of calories I am just not hungry now. My goal of loosing weight isn't that far away but I will continue even after that with the whey because it does help me balance my eating and my cravings. I feel 100% better since I started using it.

    I am a woman who consumed whey protein when I first began my weight loss. All it does is add protein to your diet. It does not work for weight loss. I no longer eat whey protein because I prefer eating food rather than drinking it. You can add whey protein to solid foods if you need to boost your protein intake but it will not cause you to lose weight. Severely restricting your calories is causing you to lose weight.

    You are not eating enough calories to maintain your health. Eating 900 - 1000 calories is not enough food to fuel your body. You may not feel hungry, however you are compromising your health by eating a very low calorie diet. Losing five pounds a week is not healthy or sustainable. You need to eat more calories to fuel your body.

    People are trying to help you not "get up in your business." Other people are reading these threads and you are giving them incorrect information. It's not what you want to hear, but there it is. Please educate yourself about nutrition and what is a healthy and sustainable lifestyle for the long term.
  • fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.

    Thanks! All I can testify to myself is that it makes me less hungry. I only said other because I read it in an article. I didn't know it was going to upset anyone just looking for others opinions that were doing the same. I like MFP except this thread haha! It's a great way to keep track of things :)

    So which kind of whey protein are you using? I've read so many reviews and opinions that at this point I just want to pick one and go with it. Might as well pick yours.

    I use Isopure unflavored :)
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  • sgthaggard
    sgthaggard Posts: 581 Member
    arditarose wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    You people that are arguing over my post on Whey Protein are a new kind of ridiculous if you read my actual post I wasn't asking for advice I stated "I am interested in following other women who are using it and seeing how the results are working for them" so unless you are a woman and using Whey Protein then your comments are totally irrelevant to this post and just for the record I may be new to MFP but I am in no way new to fitness. I never said there was a magic weight loss pill although Whey isn't a pill and in all regards there are lots of magic weight loss pills they just aren't good for your health. I also stated Whey helps me feel full and I don't have craving anymore so I was looking for WOMEN who have the same result or to see if their result was different after trying it. I'm very sorry I hurt all you men's feelings who take Whey and think your now going to lose weight and have to become defensive. I wasnt talking to you to begin with. Thanks for the support of those who get what I am saying.

    Lol. Awwwww, she thinks she sets the rules around here.

    You may have stated what you did in your OP but that doesn't negate that you made some pretty frivolous claims.

    Also, in for magic weight loss pills.

    I didn't know there were rules to even be set around here. I thought I could ask to talk to women about whey without you getting all up in my business. Sad that you can't go on social media without people wanting to argue for no reason and over things that don't affect them at all. Truth be told you're not concerned about this post you simply like to argue as it must make you feel superior in some way. Here's some facts for you and why I am interested in the results of other WOMEN who are trying it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2289832/
    http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20110715/whey-protein-may-be-helpful-for-weight-loss

    You might consider searching women only groups or creating one yourself. This is a public forum and consuming whey protein in terms that you are asking about isn't any different between the sexes.

    Thanks, I already asked in a womens group and it wasn't very active so I thought I would ask in a larger group so more people would see it.... Lucky me!

    You should ask in the female section of bb.com

    Yes please!
  • adwilliams03
    adwilliams03 Posts: 147 Member
    I do a protein shake every morning after my workouts, and unlike most "breakfast foods" it leaves me feeling full until it's actually lunchtime. That's why I like it! It helps curb my impulse to snack between meals.
  • MrM27 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.

    Thanks! All I can testify to myself is that it makes me less hungry. I only said other because I read it in an article. I didn't know it was going to upset anyone just looking for others opinions that were doing the same. I like MFP except this thread haha! It's a great way to keep track of things :)
    Whey Protein actually will help you loose weight because it's turns off your hunger and cravings and revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up. I understand calories have to be accounted for but since I started drinking Whey Protein in the morning I am no longer hungry throughout the day and have lost all my cravings for junk food and sugar. I've only joined MFP for a little over a week but my next weigh in that I use for this app is tomorrow and I already know I've lost at least 5 lbs this week with minimal effort. So my interest is in others that are using it first thing in the morning before they eat and how it is working for them.
    We are backtracking in this relationship now Mr? Let's move forward ... Have you run out of conversation with me? Are we growing apart? I'm sorry it's come to this. It's not me it you.... I understand
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  • Ha! I'm over it though for real. This isn't the kind of thing I want to consume my time so I hope you have a good day.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    edited January 2015
    what a bunch of derp...

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  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    kyta32 wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    You people that are arguing over my post on Whey Protein are a new kind of ridiculous if you read my actual post I wasn't asking for advice I stated "I am interested in following other women who are using it and seeing how the results are working for them" so unless you are a woman and using Whey Protein then your comments are totally irrelevant to this post and just for the record I may be new to MFP but I am in no way new to fitness. I never said there was a magic weight loss pill although Whey isn't a pill and in all regards there are lots of magic weight loss pills they just aren't good for your health. I also stated Whey helps me feel full and I don't have craving anymore so I was looking for WOMEN who have the same result or to see if their result was different after trying it. I'm very sorry I hurt all you men's feelings who take Whey and think your now going to lose weight and have to become defensive. I wasnt talking to you to begin with. Thanks for the support of those who get what I am saying.

    Lol. Awwwww, she thinks she sets the rules around here.

    You may have stated what you did in your OP but that doesn't negate that you made some pretty frivolous claims.

    Also, in for magic weight loss pills.

    I didn't know there were rules to even be set around here. I thought I could ask to talk to women about whey without you getting all up in my business. Sad that you can't go on social media without people wanting to argue for no reason and over things that don't affect them at all. Truth be told you're not concerned about this post you simply like to argue as it must make you feel superior in some way. Here's some facts for you and why I am interested in the results of other WOMEN who are trying it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2289832/
    http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20110715/whey-protein-may-be-helpful-for-weight-loss
    The first study funded by the company promoting the product. Seems impartial. Also weight loss was basically the same while muscle "retention" wasn't even 1 lb. More protein helps preserve lbm? Revolutionary. You read all 150 pages?

    The second study funded by the diary industry. Once again, very impartial I see. Same results as the first. And if you didn't notice there were men in that study. I thought you only were talking about women?

    Don't play the "trying to be superior because I'm a woman" card. Gender does not apply when corrected false claims.

    It's obvious to me that you will argue about anything so I am done. The facts are there and thats why I am interested. I am interested on the effects in women because I am a woman although I don't have to explain myself to you. I am not interested however in your nonsense any longer. I have better things to do. Go "try" to pick on someone else I see you do a lot of that in this group by your other post to other people. Get over yourself and move along and get a real life outside of MFP.

    This isn't a group, though. It's a public forum. Not sure what you mean you see him do that a lot in the group.

    Also, I don't think the insult was necessary, especially as what he's saying in regards to protein is still valid.

    I think some great advice for you in this regard, is to stop trying to restrict what information you take away by gender and instead really see what is being said.

    I think she was asking for female friends to add who are using the same weight loss technique as she is, so they can compare notes. Kinda like a "anyone else doing keto?" post. Lots of people have gender preferences in friends, it is more about focusing than restricting information. There's just some things that women experience that men don't (and vice versa).
    Thank you and exactly... I was asking if anyone uses Whey Protein just like I would say does anybody eat Healthy Choice. I'm not saying it's a cure all I'm saying I'm finding when I drink one protein shake a day of Isopure first thing when I wake up that I am finding I am less hungry and my cravings have stopped and I am able to take in less calories and still feel good because of that. I don't eat protein shakes all day I'm simply drinking one and adding it to my daily calorie count. I know everybody is not the same so that is why I was asking for people who were doing the same thing as I was just simply interested in their results and wanted to follow them on here and be supportive and see if it was working for them. I also just weighed myself for the week and I lost yet again another 5 lbs using whey protein in my diet so I'm really not here to argue if it will help you with weight loss because I am doing it and it's working. It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    If you are consistently losing 5lbs a week you are either extremely overweight or severely restricting your calories which isn't healthy.

    Whey doesn't help you magically lose extra weight. As has been reiterated it's just a useful way to increase your protein intake which may make you feel less hungers.

    You still need to eat a healthy amount of food.

    Someone link the sexypants thread please. I can't I'm on my phone.
    I absolutely understand what you are saying and my calorie intake is around 900-1000 a day. I eat the shake for breakfast, a snack, lunch, a snack, dinner and a snack and I drink 8-10 glasses of water a day oh yeah and my coffee :). I understand that is low for calories but right now I feel perfectly fine there because I am just not hungry because of the Whey (which I was always hungry before the whey) and if I start to not feel fine with those calories I will take in more calories for sure. I'm not afraid of calories I am just not hungry now. My goal of loosing weight isn't that far away but I will continue even after that with the whey because it does help me balance my eating and my cravings. I feel 100% better since I started using it.

    Now Iunderstand why you are getting so upset with me for stating facts when you insist on wearing blinders about how things work, you're hungry. 900-1000 calories a day is a terrible idea. There is no way you are getting proper nutrition. Feeling fine is not a good indicator you you are doing things right. 1 moment you feel fine then next you're not. And then you have problems on your hands you could have avoided.

    Feel free to get made at me for chiming in again because I'm a man. Like it or not, I'm Right.

    Lol ok then.... I'm not hungry as I just stated. I'm a female and I don't need as many calories as you so especially if you lift weights. But I'm done arguing with you. You can feel anyway you want about it. it doesn't change the fact that it is helping me. I don't recommend that people use the same calorie intake as I do. I eat that now because that's what I feel good eating right now and I am sure it will go up eventually but stay maintained. My daily diet includes egg white, grilled chicken, bread, veggies, turkey meat, nuts and fruits etc. I'm not starving and I feel good. I'm so over this whey argument so you have a good day.

    Pay attention to how many women have told you whey doesn't do what you claim. Also pay attention to how many women come in here and tell you the caloric intake you've chosen is dumb. You can disregard the advice a man gives you because he's a man but that's ignorant. You think the only readings, research, application and analyzing I don't is on myself, a man? Come on now.

    You can say you feel good now and that you're doing everything right. But you wouldn't be the first woman to say that here and be wrong.

    I never said that this was a good calorie intake. I agreed with the person above and said I understood that. I am well aware it is below what I should have. I am not arguing that point with you at all and I'm just not hungry but I know I will be that's why I said it will go up. My point is whey is making me not hungry. Before whey my calories intake was 2,000 or over a day but that's why I am so interested in whey because I would have never lost this weight without taking it. I have a micro preemie in my home who has health issues with failure to thrive so everything in my house has been calorie dense food to try to help her gain weight. I get hungry and I eat her food to because that's what's on hand it it looks good. But since I started using whey I can totally make her food for her and not be hungry and want to eat it with her. Everyone comes from a different place and things work differently for everyone. As I said I'm not saying a low calorie intake is good I'm just saying whey is really curving my appetite and I find it interesting and that's it.

    OP, I hope your little girl is doing well. I just wanted to add that with only @ 25 lbs to lose, 5 lbs a week is super aggressive and probably not healthy. Very good chance you are losing muscle mass and not getting enough nutrition. Hopefully you will find a happy medium between over 2,000 cals and under 1,000 cals.
  • fawlty70
    fawlty70 Posts: 22 Member
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.

    Thanks! All I can testify to myself is that it makes me less hungry. I only said other because I read it in an article. I didn't know it was going to upset anyone just looking for others opinions that were doing the same. I like MFP except this thread haha! It's a great way to keep track of things :)

    So which kind of whey protein are you using? I've read so many reviews and opinions that at this point I just want to pick one and go with it. Might as well pick yours.

    I use Isopure unflavored :)

    Well I bought a tub now, I'll blame you if it doesn't work. ;)
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    what a bunch of derp...

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyfcg-4RSY64P9izvDWlIL0lxHULk97S_btnSma6E5vfN3pi04dwp

    *nods*

    Came back to catch up and am on the NOPE side of things for 1000 calories and less diets.

    I know it's said consistently to make sure you get enough protein to preserve LBM, but even if a majority of your intake is protein, muscle preservation is not going to happen if you aren't fueling your body properly to begin with.

    nope.gif
  • kimny72 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    kyta32 wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    You people that are arguing over my post on Whey Protein are a new kind of ridiculous if you read my actual post I wasn't asking for advice I stated "I am interested in following other women who are using it and seeing how the results are working for them" so unless you are a woman and using Whey Protein then your comments are totally irrelevant to this post and just for the record I may be new to MFP but I am in no way new to fitness. I never said there was a magic weight loss pill although Whey isn't a pill and in all regards there are lots of magic weight loss pills they just aren't good for your health. I also stated Whey helps me feel full and I don't have craving anymore so I was looking for WOMEN who have the same result or to see if their result was different after trying it. I'm very sorry I hurt all you men's feelings who take Whey and think your now going to lose weight and have to become defensive. I wasnt talking to you to begin with. Thanks for the support of those who get what I am saying.

    Lol. Awwwww, she thinks she sets the rules around here.

    You may have stated what you did in your OP but that doesn't negate that you made some pretty frivolous claims.

    Also, in for magic weight loss pills.

    I didn't know there were rules to even be set around here. I thought I could ask to talk to women about whey without you getting all up in my business. Sad that you can't go on social media without people wanting to argue for no reason and over things that don't affect them at all. Truth be told you're not concerned about this post you simply like to argue as it must make you feel superior in some way. Here's some facts for you and why I am interested in the results of other WOMEN who are trying it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2289832/
    http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20110715/whey-protein-may-be-helpful-for-weight-loss
    The first study funded by the company promoting the product. Seems impartial. Also weight loss was basically the same while muscle "retention" wasn't even 1 lb. More protein helps preserve lbm? Revolutionary. You read all 150 pages?

    The second study funded by the diary industry. Once again, very impartial I see. Same results as the first. And if you didn't notice there were men in that study. I thought you only were talking about women?

    Don't play the "trying to be superior because I'm a woman" card. Gender does not apply when corrected false claims.

    It's obvious to me that you will argue about anything so I am done. The facts are there and thats why I am interested. I am interested on the effects in women because I am a woman although I don't have to explain myself to you. I am not interested however in your nonsense any longer. I have better things to do. Go "try" to pick on someone else I see you do a lot of that in this group by your other post to other people. Get over yourself and move along and get a real life outside of MFP.

    This isn't a group, though. It's a public forum. Not sure what you mean you see him do that a lot in the group.

    Also, I don't think the insult was necessary, especially as what he's saying in regards to protein is still valid.

    I think some great advice for you in this regard, is to stop trying to restrict what information you take away by gender and instead really see what is being said.

    I think she was asking for female friends to add who are using the same weight loss technique as she is, so they can compare notes. Kinda like a "anyone else doing keto?" post. Lots of people have gender preferences in friends, it is more about focusing than restricting information. There's just some things that women experience that men don't (and vice versa).
    Thank you and exactly... I was asking if anyone uses Whey Protein just like I would say does anybody eat Healthy Choice. I'm not saying it's a cure all I'm saying I'm finding when I drink one protein shake a day of Isopure first thing when I wake up that I am finding I am less hungry and my cravings have stopped and I am able to take in less calories and still feel good because of that. I don't eat protein shakes all day I'm simply drinking one and adding it to my daily calorie count. I know everybody is not the same so that is why I was asking for people who were doing the same thing as I was just simply interested in their results and wanted to follow them on here and be supportive and see if it was working for them. I also just weighed myself for the week and I lost yet again another 5 lbs using whey protein in my diet so I'm really not here to argue if it will help you with weight loss because I am doing it and it's working. It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    If you are consistently losing 5lbs a week you are either extremely overweight or severely restricting your calories which isn't healthy.

    Whey doesn't help you magically lose extra weight. As has been reiterated it's just a useful way to increase your protein intake which may make you feel less hungers.

    You still need to eat a healthy amount of food.

    Someone link the sexypants thread please. I can't I'm on my phone.
    I absolutely understand what you are saying and my calorie intake is around 900-1000 a day. I eat the shake for breakfast, a snack, lunch, a snack, dinner and a snack and I drink 8-10 glasses of water a day oh yeah and my coffee :). I understand that is low for calories but right now I feel perfectly fine there because I am just not hungry because of the Whey (which I was always hungry before the whey) and if I start to not feel fine with those calories I will take in more calories for sure. I'm not afraid of calories I am just not hungry now. My goal of loosing weight isn't that far away but I will continue even after that with the whey because it does help me balance my eating and my cravings. I feel 100% better since I started using it.

    Now Iunderstand why you are getting so upset with me for stating facts when you insist on wearing blinders about how things work, you're hungry. 900-1000 calories a day is a terrible idea. There is no way you are getting proper nutrition. Feeling fine is not a good indicator you you are doing things right. 1 moment you feel fine then next you're not. And then you have problems on your hands you could have avoided.

    Feel free to get made at me for chiming in again because I'm a man. Like it or not, I'm Right.

    Lol ok then.... I'm not hungry as I just stated. I'm a female and I don't need as many calories as you so especially if you lift weights. But I'm done arguing with you. You can feel anyway you want about it. it doesn't change the fact that it is helping me. I don't recommend that people use the same calorie intake as I do. I eat that now because that's what I feel good eating right now and I am sure it will go up eventually but stay maintained. My daily diet includes egg white, grilled chicken, bread, veggies, turkey meat, nuts and fruits etc. I'm not starving and I feel good. I'm so over this whey argument so you have a good day.

    Pay attention to how many women have told you whey doesn't do what you claim. Also pay attention to how many women come in here and tell you the caloric intake you've chosen is dumb. You can disregard the advice a man gives you because he's a man but that's ignorant. You think the only readings, research, application and analyzing I don't is on myself, a man? Come on now.

    You can say you feel good now and that you're doing everything right. But you wouldn't be the first woman to say that here and be wrong.

    I never said that this was a good calorie intake. I agreed with the person above and said I understood that. I am well aware it is below what I should have. I am not arguing that point with you at all and I'm just not hungry but I know I will be that's why I said it will go up. My point is whey is making me not hungry. Before whey my calories intake was 2,000 or over a day but that's why I am so interested in whey because I would have never lost this weight without taking it. I have a micro preemie in my home who has health issues with failure to thrive so everything in my house has been calorie dense food to try to help her gain weight. I get hungry and I eat her food to because that's what's on hand it it looks good. But since I started using whey I can totally make her food for her and not be hungry and want to eat it with her. Everyone comes from a different place and things work differently for everyone. As I said I'm not saying a low calorie intake is good I'm just saying whey is really curving my appetite and I find it interesting and that's it.

    OP, I hope your little girl is doing well. I just wanted to add that with only @ 25 lbs to lose, 5 lbs a week is super aggressive and probably not healthy. Very good chance you are losing muscle mass and not getting enough nutrition. Hopefully you will find a happy medium between over 2,000 cals and under 1,000 cals.
    Thanks! My little girl is great she was born at 1lb 2oz and she is the strongest human being I know. I am beyond blessed with her ❤️ I agree about my calorie intake it is aggressive and I will up it very soon for sure. Thank you for your kind words :)
  • fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.

    Thanks! All I can testify to myself is that it makes me less hungry. I only said other because I read it in an article. I didn't know it was going to upset anyone just looking for others opinions that were doing the same. I like MFP except this thread haha! It's a great way to keep track of things :)

    So which kind of whey protein are you using? I've read so many reviews and opinions that at this point I just want to pick one and go with it. Might as well pick yours.

    I use Isopure unflavored :)

    Well I bought a tub now, I'll blame you if it doesn't work. ;)
    Haha! I would love to hear how it works out with you. I find it very interesting!
  • I do a protein shake every morning after my workouts, and unlike most "breakfast foods" it leaves me feeling full until it's actually lunchtime. That's why I like it! It helps curb my impulse to snack between meals.
    Awesome. Thank you for responding I am glad it is helping you also!
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.

    Thanks! All I can testify to myself is that it makes me less hungry. I only said other because I read it in an article. I didn't know it was going to upset anyone just looking for others opinions that were doing the same. I like MFP except this thread haha! It's a great way to keep track of things :)

    So which kind of whey protein are you using? I've read so many reviews and opinions that at this point I just want to pick one and go with it. Might as well pick yours.

    I use Isopure unflavored :)

    Unflavored.........
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  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    sjohnny wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    fawlty70 wrote: »
    It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    Odd statement. You were the one that started the huge argument by saying everyone that didn't agree with you were wrong.

    It sounds to me, as many others have said, that the whey protein reduces your hunger/need to eat, which causes you to have a net calorie deficit. That is great (fiber does the same for me). That doesn't mean that the whey protein itself has properties that burns calories.
    ^^^^ that's exactly what I am saying it reduces my hunger so I take in less calories and I lose weight. I never said whey burns calories

    I think it was your statement in one of the first posts that whey protein "revs up your metabolism and there is research that backs that up" that got people a bit peeved.

    Glad you are on your way (whey? :p) to your goal weight and feeling good. MFP has been a great tool for me.

    Thanks! All I can testify to myself is that it makes me less hungry. I only said other because I read it in an article. I didn't know it was going to upset anyone just looking for others opinions that were doing the same. I like MFP except this thread haha! It's a great way to keep track of things :)

    So which kind of whey protein are you using? I've read so many reviews and opinions that at this point I just want to pick one and go with it. Might as well pick yours.

    I use Isopure unflavored :)

    Unflavored.........
    puking-cat-o.gif

    :laugh:

    Yeah, I'm with you on that.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    edited January 2015
    OP, I wasnt here to argue with me. But I do frequently ask for science, especially on bold claims. I ask because I like to educate myself further and i realize that science continuously evolves over time. The problem people generally face is they get defensive when their ideals are changed, which I struggle to as why, because lets face it, we don't know anything. In fact, this is extremely common to those on MFP or have been since I have been on here.

    What you have noticed, is whey increase satiety, which is creating the deficit. The energy deficit is creating the weight loss. The fact is, protein and fats have the greatest impact on satiety than anything else. So it's potential that when you at 2000 calories and felt hungry, that your diet was high in carbs which is very typical for women.

    With that said, satiety is not a function of calories, but rather macronutrients. Diets high in protein and fats tend to keep you full for along time which can make a calorie deficit easier (as demonstrated by those following LCHF diets). Where your bigger concern is, do you think 900 to 1000 calories will be able to give you all your nutrients to maintain muscle mass, regulate hormones and provide energy, especially since you are active (IIRC). Generally, 1200 calorie or less diets are for people are who sedentary and small, those with metabolic issues or obese. And even then they are generally more short term and monitored by a doctor.

    That is awesome that your child is doing better. I can't even imagine what is required to take care of a child like that. I would ask though, can you or do you breast feed? Because if you do, there are higher calorie requirements for those who do. It is advised by doctors to take in an additional 300 to 500 calories to sustain a good level of milk production and to provide adequate nutrients to a child.

    Something to think about. But I highly doubt your diet plan will give you the results you probably want because I have yet to see a success story of MFP of someone who is eating at little as you are and achieve the body they really want.
  • tracie_minus100
    tracie_minus100 Posts: 465 Member
    I'm a woman...I throw a scoop into my morning smoothie just to give my protein intake a boost. It does keep me feeling full longer than a non protein smoothie, but I still need to have a couple of eggs later in the morning.
    I only have one scoop a day. It makes no difference in my personal weight loss. Just a tool to keep my protein level where it needs to be.
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  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    kyta32 wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    You people that are arguing over my post on Whey Protein are a new kind of ridiculous if you read my actual post I wasn't asking for advice I stated "I am interested in following other women who are using it and seeing how the results are working for them" so unless you are a woman and using Whey Protein then your comments are totally irrelevant to this post and just for the record I may be new to MFP but I am in no way new to fitness. I never said there was a magic weight loss pill although Whey isn't a pill and in all regards there are lots of magic weight loss pills they just aren't good for your health. I also stated Whey helps me feel full and I don't have craving anymore so I was looking for WOMEN who have the same result or to see if their result was different after trying it. I'm very sorry I hurt all you men's feelings who take Whey and think your now going to lose weight and have to become defensive. I wasnt talking to you to begin with. Thanks for the support of those who get what I am saying.

    Lol. Awwwww, she thinks she sets the rules around here.

    You may have stated what you did in your OP but that doesn't negate that you made some pretty frivolous claims.

    Also, in for magic weight loss pills.

    I didn't know there were rules to even be set around here. I thought I could ask to talk to women about whey without you getting all up in my business. Sad that you can't go on social media without people wanting to argue for no reason and over things that don't affect them at all. Truth be told you're not concerned about this post you simply like to argue as it must make you feel superior in some way. Here's some facts for you and why I am interested in the results of other WOMEN who are trying it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2289832/
    http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20110715/whey-protein-may-be-helpful-for-weight-loss
    The first study funded by the company promoting the product. Seems impartial. Also weight loss was basically the same while muscle "retention" wasn't even 1 lb. More protein helps preserve lbm? Revolutionary. You read all 150 pages?

    The second study funded by the diary industry. Once again, very impartial I see. Same results as the first. And if you didn't notice there were men in that study. I thought you only were talking about women?

    Don't play the "trying to be superior because I'm a woman" card. Gender does not apply when corrected false claims.

    It's obvious to me that you will argue about anything so I am done. The facts are there and thats why I am interested. I am interested on the effects in women because I am a woman although I don't have to explain myself to you. I am not interested however in your nonsense any longer. I have better things to do. Go "try" to pick on someone else I see you do a lot of that in this group by your other post to other people. Get over yourself and move along and get a real life outside of MFP.

    This isn't a group, though. It's a public forum. Not sure what you mean you see him do that a lot in the group.

    Also, I don't think the insult was necessary, especially as what he's saying in regards to protein is still valid.

    I think some great advice for you in this regard, is to stop trying to restrict what information you take away by gender and instead really see what is being said.

    I think she was asking for female friends to add who are using the same weight loss technique as she is, so they can compare notes. Kinda like a "anyone else doing keto?" post. Lots of people have gender preferences in friends, it is more about focusing than restricting information. There's just some things that women experience that men don't (and vice versa).
    Thank you and exactly... I was asking if anyone uses Whey Protein just like I would say does anybody eat Healthy Choice. I'm not saying it's a cure all I'm saying I'm finding when I drink one protein shake a day of Isopure first thing when I wake up that I am finding I am less hungry and my cravings have stopped and I am able to take in less calories and still feel good because of that. I don't eat protein shakes all day I'm simply drinking one and adding it to my daily calorie count. I know everybody is not the same so that is why I was asking for people who were doing the same thing as I was just simply interested in their results and wanted to follow them on here and be supportive and see if it was working for them. I also just weighed myself for the week and I lost yet again another 5 lbs using whey protein in my diet so I'm really not here to argue if it will help you with weight loss because I am doing it and it's working. It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    If you are consistently losing 5lbs a week you are either extremely overweight or severely restricting your calories which isn't healthy.

    Whey doesn't help you magically lose extra weight. As has been reiterated it's just a useful way to increase your protein intake which may make you feel less hungers.

    You still need to eat a healthy amount of food.

    Someone link the sexypants thread please. I can't I'm on my phone.
    I absolutely understand what you are saying and my calorie intake is around 900-1000 a day . I eat the shake for breakfast, a snack, lunch, a snack, dinner and a snack and I drink 8-10 glasses of water a day oh yeah and my coffee :). I understand that is low for calories but right now I feel perfectly fine there because I am just not hungry because of the Whey (which I was always hungry before the whey) and if I start to not feel fine with those calories I will take in more calories for sure. I'm not afraid of calories I am just not hungry now. My goal of loosing weight isn't that far away but I will continue even after that with the whey because it does help me balance my eating and my cravings. I feel 100% better since I started using it.
    I see osteoporosis in the near future for you.
  • trina1049
    trina1049 Posts: 593 Member
    Serah87 wrote: »
    kyta32 wrote: »
    PikaKnight wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    You people that are arguing over my post on Whey Protein are a new kind of ridiculous if you read my actual post I wasn't asking for advice I stated "I am interested in following other women who are using it and seeing how the results are working for them" so unless you are a woman and using Whey Protein then your comments are totally irrelevant to this post and just for the record I may be new to MFP but I am in no way new to fitness. I never said there was a magic weight loss pill although Whey isn't a pill and in all regards there are lots of magic weight loss pills they just aren't good for your health. I also stated Whey helps me feel full and I don't have craving anymore so I was looking for WOMEN who have the same result or to see if their result was different after trying it. I'm very sorry I hurt all you men's feelings who take Whey and think your now going to lose weight and have to become defensive. I wasnt talking to you to begin with. Thanks for the support of those who get what I am saying.

    Lol. Awwwww, she thinks she sets the rules around here.

    You may have stated what you did in your OP but that doesn't negate that you made some pretty frivolous claims.

    Also, in for magic weight loss pills.

    I didn't know there were rules to even be set around here. I thought I could ask to talk to women about whey without you getting all up in my business. Sad that you can't go on social media without people wanting to argue for no reason and over things that don't affect them at all. Truth be told you're not concerned about this post you simply like to argue as it must make you feel superior in some way. Here's some facts for you and why I am interested in the results of other WOMEN who are trying it.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2289832/
    http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20110715/whey-protein-may-be-helpful-for-weight-loss
    The first study funded by the company promoting the product. Seems impartial. Also weight loss was basically the same while muscle "retention" wasn't even 1 lb. More protein helps preserve lbm? Revolutionary. You read all 150 pages?

    The second study funded by the diary industry. Once again, very impartial I see. Same results as the first. And if you didn't notice there were men in that study. I thought you only were talking about women?

    Don't play the "trying to be superior because I'm a woman" card. Gender does not apply when corrected false claims.

    It's obvious to me that you will argue about anything so I am done. The facts are there and thats why I am interested. I am interested on the effects in women because I am a woman although I don't have to explain myself to you. I am not interested however in your nonsense any longer. I have better things to do. Go "try" to pick on someone else I see you do a lot of that in this group by your other post to other people. Get over yourself and move along and get a real life outside of MFP.

    This isn't a group, though. It's a public forum. Not sure what you mean you see him do that a lot in the group.

    Also, I don't think the insult was necessary, especially as what he's saying in regards to protein is still valid.

    I think some great advice for you in this regard, is to stop trying to restrict what information you take away by gender and instead really see what is being said.

    I think she was asking for female friends to add who are using the same weight loss technique as she is, so they can compare notes. Kinda like a "anyone else doing keto?" post. Lots of people have gender preferences in friends, it is more about focusing than restricting information. There's just some things that women experience that men don't (and vice versa).
    Thank you and exactly... I was asking if anyone uses Whey Protein just like I would say does anybody eat Healthy Choice. I'm not saying it's a cure all I'm saying I'm finding when I drink one protein shake a day of Isopure first thing when I wake up that I am finding I am less hungry and my cravings have stopped and I am able to take in less calories and still feel good because of that. I don't eat protein shakes all day I'm simply drinking one and adding it to my daily calorie count. I know everybody is not the same so that is why I was asking for people who were doing the same thing as I was just simply interested in their results and wanted to follow them on here and be supportive and see if it was working for them. I also just weighed myself for the week and I lost yet again another 5 lbs using whey protein in my diet so I'm really not here to argue if it will help you with weight loss because I am doing it and it's working. It works for me and I am happy and I am sorry that these people that have started a huge argument over it can't just be happy that something is working for someone else.

    If you are consistently losing 5lbs a week you are either extremely overweight or severely restricting your calories which isn't healthy.

    Whey doesn't help you magically lose extra weight. As has been reiterated it's just a useful way to increase your protein intake which may make you feel less hungers.

    You still need to eat a healthy amount of food.

    Someone link the sexypants thread please. I can't I'm on my phone.
    I absolutely understand what you are saying and my calorie intake is around 900-1000 a day . I eat the shake for breakfast, a snack, lunch, a snack, dinner and a snack and I drink 8-10 glasses of water a day oh yeah and my coffee :). I understand that is low for calories but right now I feel perfectly fine there because I am just not hungry because of the Whey (which I was always hungry before the whey) and if I start to not feel fine with those calories I will take in more calories for sure. I'm not afraid of calories I am just not hungry now. My goal of loosing weight isn't that far away but I will continue even after that with the whey because it does help me balance my eating and my cravings. I feel 100% better since I started using it.
    I see osteoporosis in the near future for you.

    Sad but true!
  • kyta32
    kyta32 Posts: 670 Member
    I use whey because it is cheaper than most protein sources, I can get it in isolate, so it doesn`t increase my fat/carb (and total calorie) intake like nuts and dairy does, and when I started, my protein intake was about half of what it should be. The way I was raised, it just feels wrong (self-indulgent) to have meat more than once a day, and I don't have the patience to cook a lot of beans.

    Since I reduced carbs to have room for they whey calories, I do find that eating whey helps me to be satisfied with fewer calories. I really enjoy eating my whey powder with greek yogurt, and try to eat it around the time of my workout, or just after. It's a little weird, the taste effect is kind of like cheesecake, and I don't like cheesecake, but I quite like my whey powder. I believe it has enhanced my weight loss, but I haven't broken down the calories before and after to analyse a relationship. Eating whey helps me feel full for at least a couple of hours.

    A wierd effect for me, is that it put me in ketosis, even though I eat 130-200 g carbs a day. My Dr. is monitoring this because I am diabetic (type II), and my ketosis level was the highest that registers in the lab work. My Dr. says my body thinks it is starving. The ketosis probably helps with appetite suppression, in addition to the protein impact. Fortunately ketosis doesn't make me foggy or lethargic, I just notice the headache sometimes (and the thirst, and the extra peeing).
  • psulemon wrote: »
    OP, I wasnt here to argue with me. But I do frequently ask for science, especially on bold claims. I ask because I like to educate myself further and i realize that science continuously evolves over time. The problem people generally face is they get defensive when their ideals are changed, which I struggle to as why, because lets face it, we don't know anything. In fact, this is extremely common to those on MFP or have been since I have been on here.

    What you have noticed, is whey increase satiety, which is creating the deficit. The energy deficit is creating the weight loss. The fact is, protein and fats have the greatest impact on satiety than anything else. So it's potential that when you at 2000 calories and felt hungry, that your diet was high in carbs which is very typical for women.

    With that said, satiety is not a function of calories, but rather macronutrients. Diets high in protein and fats tend to keep you full for along time which can make a calorie deficit easier (as demonstrated by those following LCHF diets). Where your bigger concern is, do you think 900 to 1000 calories will be able to give you all your nutrients to maintain muscle mass, regulate hormones and provide energy, especially since you are active (IIRC). Generally, 1200 calorie or less diets are for people are who sedentary and small, those with metabolic issues or obese. And even then they are generally more short term and monitored by a doctor.

    That is awesome that your child is doing better. I can't even imagine what is required to take care of a child like that. I would ask though, can you or do you breast feed? Because if you do, there are higher calorie requirements for those who do. It is advised by doctors to take in an additional 300 to 500 calories to sustain a good level of milk production and to provide adequate nutrients to a child.

    Something to think about. But I highly doubt your diet plan will give you the results you probably want because I have yet to see a success story of MFP of someone who is eating at little as you are and achieve the body they really want.

    The calorie intake for me is short term and I plan on upping it soon. I actually love food but I'm aggressively (good or bad) trying to reach my goal quicker. Then picking up healthy calories and maintaining as the whey protein is helping me do by reducing my craving for junk so my intake is healthier opposed to the junk I was eating before.

    I do not breast feed as my daughter is 4 years old now. She is very tiny as she was born at 23 weeks gestation so we still struggle with her eating issues and having her on a very high calorie diet and that has effected my eating choices negatively but thanks to whey (no matter who disagrees) it is really helping me make better eating choices in reference to the healthy choice of the food with my cravings curved not the calories and I am feeling so much better for it.

    So I am actually very happy with my choice of using whey and the benefit it is having on me personally.

    My diet plan and goal was only to lose 25 lbs and then to maintain that weight and tone while maintaining a more healthy diet which will include more calories so I don't really see how I can miss :)
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