I think I've plateaued

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  • TheVirgoddess
    TheVirgoddess Posts: 4,535 Member
    SammyBlz1 wrote: »
    Another thing is everyone is saying there are no things such as bad foods but that makes no sense? If i eat a few pieces of cake compared to a bunch of vegetables wouldn't that be inefficient to weight loss????

    No.

    My diary is open - you can see all the foods I eat. Lots of which people would consider "bad". I've lost 70 pounds so far.

    Labeling foods good vs bad is attaching emotion (or even morality) to them. It's not something I believe in. I don't want emotions tied into my food. I call things sometimes food and always food (for the sake of my kids).

    You don't want to eat cake all day, every day - you won't be meeting your nutritional goals that way. But if you want a slice of cake sometimes - have it. It's going to undo the work you've done. I promise.
  • Nice2BFitAgain
    Nice2BFitAgain Posts: 319 Member
    edited February 2015
    If you want ways to add calories try adding nuts, cheese, protein bars, yogurt (Greek or otherwise), healthy fats.

    There is nothing wrong with your exercise, it soothes you, that's great. But there is something wrong with obsessing over that last 10 pounds. Stop comparing yourself to others to start. Beauty isn't just from the form, it comes from how you treat others, how you comport yourself and your confidence. Work on that.

    You are beginning to sound a bit self-destructive to me, I think you should discuss your concerns with your doctor or nurse. The school has counselors that can help you out.
  • SammyBlz1 wrote: »
    Another thing is everyone is saying there are no things such as bad foods but that makes no sense? If i eat a few pieces of cake compared to a bunch of vegetables wouldn't that be inefficient to weight loss????

    No.

    My diary is open - you can see all the foods I eat. Lots of which people would consider "bad". I've lost 70 pounds so far.

    Labeling foods good vs bad is attaching emotion (or even morality) to them. It's not something I believe in. I don't want emotions tied into my food. I call things sometimes food and always food (for the sake of my kids).

    You don't want to eat cake all day, every day - you won't be meeting your nutritional goals that way. But if you want a slice of cake sometimes - have it. It's going to undo the work you've done. I promise.

    That makes sense. I just feel like if I don't label something as "clean" food then I go overboard. I guess I need to work on that.
    I stepped on the scale again after eating breakfast this morning, which was eggs, 1/3 of a banana, two orange slices, and half a cup of oatmeal with a teaspoon of brown sugar, and drinking coffee and it was the same weight so I'm assuming earlier this morning was water weight. Which I'm fine with.
    I just really want to go back to eating more natural with low carbs. I like the way it makes me feel and how my conscious feels.
    I haven't worked out yet today because on Fridays I tend to sleep in but I'll get the same, if not more done because I knock it all out at the same time.
    Another thing I'd like to ask about is if I do eat low calorie but I'm feeling good, not hungry, and not dizzy or anything do I really need to hit my calorie goal?

    Also guys if I have a random posting that seems incomplete it probably is. My phone Ghosts and I can't get it fixed till May so it will press things on its own a lot of the time.
  • Nice2BFitAgain
    Nice2BFitAgain Posts: 319 Member
    always eat AT LEAST 1200 calories. Please. It's a part of taking good care of yourself
  • If you want ways to add calories try adding nuts, cheese, protein bars, yogurt (Greek or otherwise), healthy fats.

    There is nothing wrong with your exercise, it soothes you, that's great. But there is something wrong with obsessing over that last 10 pounds. Stop comparing yourself to others to start. Beauty isn't just from the form, it comes from how you treat others, how you comport yourself and your confidence. Work on that.

    You are beginning to sound a bit self-destructive to me, I think you should discuss your concerns with your doctor or nurse. The school has counselors that can help you out.

    I'm trying to stay away from cheese because its so high in fat. Sometimes I eat it. Most the time I don't.

    I am a good person and treat others well. I'm working on myself forsure. I just feel defeated about my body. I'm at that stage in life where I feel like everything i do isn't enough. :/

    I don't want to talk to a doctor about it. My stepfather is one. I have a history with an eating disorder and I don't feel like I have fallen back into one.
  • TheVirgoddess
    TheVirgoddess Posts: 4,535 Member
    SammyBlz1 wrote: »
    SammyBlz1 wrote: »
    Another thing is everyone is saying there are no things such as bad foods but that makes no sense? If i eat a few pieces of cake compared to a bunch of vegetables wouldn't that be inefficient to weight loss????

    No.

    My diary is open - you can see all the foods I eat. Lots of which people would consider "bad". I've lost 70 pounds so far.

    Labeling foods good vs bad is attaching emotion (or even morality) to them. It's not something I believe in. I don't want emotions tied into my food. I call things sometimes food and always food (for the sake of my kids).

    You don't want to eat cake all day, every day - you won't be meeting your nutritional goals that way. But if you want a slice of cake sometimes - have it. It's going to undo the work you've done. I promise.

    That makes sense. I just feel like if I don't label something as "clean" food then I go overboard. I guess I need to work on that.
    I stepped on the scale again after eating breakfast this morning, which was eggs, 1/3 of a banana, two orange slices, and half a cup of oatmeal with a teaspoon of brown sugar, and drinking coffee and it was the same weight so I'm assuming earlier this morning was water weight. Which I'm fine with.
    I just really want to go back to eating more natural with low carbs. I like the way it makes me feel and how my conscious feels.
    I haven't worked out yet today because on Fridays I tend to sleep in but I'll get the same, if not more done because I knock it all out at the same time.
    Another thing I'd like to ask about is if I do eat low calorie but I'm feeling good, not hungry, and not dizzy or anything do I really need to hit my calorie goal?

    Also guys if I have a random posting that seems incomplete it probably is. My phone Ghosts and I can't get it fixed till May so it will press things on its own a lot of the time.

    It depends on what low calorie is. If it's under 1,200ish, yes - you should consume more IMO. You can have a Snickers bar, or a glass of OJ or something like that to bump you up to where you need to be. If it's under your goal of 1900, you don't necessarily have to force yourself to eat - just be mindful of getting as close as you can.

    We need to make sure we're fueling our bodies - and there is fuel in just about every food - including the above mentioned Snickers.

    As an aside - fat is good for you - don't be afraid of it. It helps your body absorb nutrients. It also helps you poop :)
  • rosebette
    rosebette Posts: 1,659 Member
    edited February 2015
    SammyBlz1 wrote: »
    If you want ways to add calories try adding nuts, cheese, protein bars, yogurt (Greek or otherwise), healthy fats.

    There is nothing wrong with your exercise, it soothes you, that's great. But there is something wrong with obsessing over that last 10 pounds. Stop comparing yourself to others to start. Beauty isn't just from the form, it comes from how you treat others, how you comport yourself and your confidence. Work on that.

    You are beginning to sound a bit self-destructive to me, I think you should discuss your concerns with your doctor or nurse. The school has counselors that can help you out.

    I'm trying to stay away from cheese because its so high in fat. Sometimes I eat it. Most the time I don't.

    I am a good person and treat others well. I'm working on myself forsure. I just feel defeated about my body. I'm at that stage in life where I feel like everything i do isn't enough. :/

    I don't want to talk to a doctor about it. My stepfather is one. I have a history with an eating disorder and I don't feel like I have fallen back into one.

    You may very well be heading toward an eating disorder again. The statement "I'm at the stage in life where I feel everything I do isn't enough." These are the feelings that a an older person with lots of responsibilities and successes and failures might have, not a young girl whose main goal in life is to be a good student and take care of herself. Some of your behaviors do have some ED markers. For instance, you are doing things like weighing yourself after every meal, worrying about weight fluctuations, etc. 1 lb. or 2 lb. fluctuation, especially in a younger woman who has monthly cycles, is normal. Sometimes it can be the result of eating something with a little more sodium, or a heavy workout where your muscles retain water. My advice -- choose a day and weigh yourself once a week.

    Also, fat isn't all evil. Cheese is a good source of calcium and protein. If it fits into your calorie goals for the day, eat it. Yes, some foods with nutrients have calories; our bodies need nutrients and calories.
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    SammyBlz1 wrote: »
    If you want ways to add calories try adding nuts, cheese, protein bars, yogurt (Greek or otherwise), healthy fats.

    There is nothing wrong with your exercise, it soothes you, that's great. But there is something wrong with obsessing over that last 10 pounds. Stop comparing yourself to others to start. Beauty isn't just from the form, it comes from how you treat others, how you comport yourself and your confidence. Work on that.

    You are beginning to sound a bit self-destructive to me, I think you should discuss your concerns with your doctor or nurse. The school has counselors that can help you out.

    I'm trying to stay away from cheese because its so high in fat. Sometimes I eat it. Most the time I don't.

    I am a good person and treat others well. I'm working on myself forsure. I just feel defeated about my body. I'm at that stage in life where I feel like everything i do isn't enough. :/

    I don't want to talk to a doctor about it. My stepfather is one. I have a history with an eating disorder and I don't feel like I have fallen back into one.

    To be bluntly honest, it sounds like you are heading in that direction again. You may not see it, but it is pretty obvious from your posts. If I were you, I would get help now, rather than later when it can be harder to undo the learned behavior.
  • TheVirgoddess
    TheVirgoddess Posts: 4,535 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    SammyBlz1 wrote: »
    If you want ways to add calories try adding nuts, cheese, protein bars, yogurt (Greek or otherwise), healthy fats.

    There is nothing wrong with your exercise, it soothes you, that's great. But there is something wrong with obsessing over that last 10 pounds. Stop comparing yourself to others to start. Beauty isn't just from the form, it comes from how you treat others, how you comport yourself and your confidence. Work on that.

    You are beginning to sound a bit self-destructive to me, I think you should discuss your concerns with your doctor or nurse. The school has counselors that can help you out.

    I'm trying to stay away from cheese because its so high in fat. Sometimes I eat it. Most the time I don't.

    I am a good person and treat others well. I'm working on myself forsure. I just feel defeated about my body. I'm at that stage in life where I feel like everything i do isn't enough. :/

    I don't want to talk to a doctor about it. My stepfather is one. I have a history with an eating disorder and I don't feel like I have fallen back into one.

    To be bluntly honest, it sounds like you are heading in that direction again. You may not see it, but it is pretty obvious from your posts. If I were you, I would get help now, rather than later when it can be harder to undo the learned behavior.

    I do agree with this, too. It won't hurt to talk to someone and just be aware of what's going on with you and your thoughts. It's part of being healthy, too :)
  • Blueseraphchaos
    Blueseraphchaos Posts: 843 Member
    I agree, history of eating disorder + a lot of the stuff you have posted looks to me like you are headed back down that path again.

    Why not eat the whole banana and a whole cup of oatmeal for breakfast? Just for starters. Eating disorders come about sometimes because of feeling like you lack control. You're in a place where you're homesick and miss your family and you don't have a whole lot of control over your environment....so you're taking it out on what you DO have control over.

    I definitely agree with some other posters on here. Your campus should have a doctor, nurse, or counselor you can speak to. And you should probably do so.

    Good luck.
  • ogmomma2012
    ogmomma2012 Posts: 1,520 Member
    Fat is good for you. Don't be afraid of it.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    I can't imagine only eating half a cup of oatmeal, what a tease :dizzy_face:
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Fat is good for you. Don't be afraid of it.

    Definitely! ! You have to eat fat to lose fat. Obviously by sticking to your goal calories
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    deaniac83 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    deaniac83 wrote: »
    segacs wrote: »
    deaniac83 wrote: »
    Here's the solution to your plateu: EAT MORE. It will reset your body's metabolism. One reason you may be "plateuing" is that your body has slowed down your metabolism, gone into survival mode, and is storing everything it can.

    I really don't know why people keep posting this advice. It's clearly not true.

    "Survival mode" is a myth. You're not starving yourself unless you are REALLY starving. Not a term to use lightly when you look around the world and see people who are actually starving.

    "Resetting your metabolism" is a myth. There's no ctrl-alt-del reboot switch on a body's metabolism.
    There's nothing "clear" about what you just posted. Survival mode and starvation mode are real. It doesn't mean your body magically finds calories where there are none, but our bodies are adaptive machines. When it doesn't get enough food for a sustained period of time, it absolutely tries to save energy wherever it can: it feels more sluggish, metabolism slows down, and you burn energy at a lower rate during regular activities (measured exercise notwithstanding). Someone at peak metabolism burns more calories standing, walking, sitting and sleeping than someone in starvation mode.

    As for resetting metabolism, that's real too. No it's not like restarting your laptop. It's more like slowly readjusting and retraining the body to expect more food - hence it takes two weeks of maintenance level eating and not one binge session.

    That posting by Segacs is very clear, and spot on.

    Starvation mode is a myth as to the common dieter. To be in starvation mode, you must be emaciated and have lost a certain percentage of body fat and muscle. People who are fat or overweight, of normal weight, don't get starvation mode. Have you studied the Minnesota Starvation Experiment?

    In the normal world of dieting, people telling others to stop starving themselves simply means to eat more. It in no way relates to starvation mode.

    Resetting metabolism is a myth too. If your metabolism stops, you're dead. If it slows down, there is a medical issue that needs attention. However, it does not need to be "reset".

    The only requirement to lose weight is to eat less calories than you burn. That's it. Everything else, such as diet type, food restriction, exercise, drinking tea teas, standing on your head while eating jelly beans, is preference only.
    Which has A LOT to do with your metabolism. Your metabolism doesn't have to "stop" in order for it to slow down. Your metabolism adapts to the input your body is getting as well the output you're performing. Yes, metabolism does slow down when the body doesn't get enough fuel. You can call that a medical issue, and if it is, it is caused by not eating enough.

    As for starvation mode, it's absolutely real, including in fat people. We're not talking about famine-type starvation. We're talking about a big enough slowdown in metabolism that you begin to see a diminished effect on weight loss from dieting.

    Again, that's not because things now suddenly take fewer calories to perform than they did before, but there's a rule of physics (since everyone here thinks they are a science expert and I actually DID study physics) that input energy is ALWAYS greater than output energy. That's because of energy loss. I can exert 100 calories to do something that only requires 60 calories to do. There's a 40 calorie loss. But that "loss" is a gain when you're trying to lose weight. I may be able to exert only 80 calories and still do that work (let's say it's opening 10 cans of jars) since it only takes 60 calories to do, but I just lost out on using that extra 20 calories.

    Another way metabolism slowdown reduces energy expenditure is by making one feel lethargic and simply doing less. It may not always be noticeable in your day-to-day life but it's still happening.
    Okay, I'll bite.

    Site peer reviewed studies for your claims, please.

    Here you go.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1077746-starvation-mode-adaptive-thermogenesis-and-weight-loss

    She's is using the term starvation mode as "adaptive thermogensis" and she is correct. You'll find various references in that thread on what it actually is, how it works and what diet pauses do. Although I dislike the term "starvation mode" and "metabolic reset" there is in fact a metabolic slow down during long diet periods that isn't due to the loss of lean mass and taking a pause in restriction does improve metabolic hormonal response (aka "reset"). And it occurs in all dieters - not just people actually starving.

    No, saying starvation mode and adaptive thermogenesis is the same thing is not correct.

    That is exactly how she is using it and various scientific articles have used the term interchangeably - so, yes, sometimes it is. See the references posted in that thread.
  • rosebette
    rosebette Posts: 1,659 Member
    I can't imagine only eating half a cup of oatmeal, what a tease :dizzy_face:

    It depends whether it's a 1/2 cup cooked or dry. 1/2 cup dry yields one cup cooked. Irregardless, she's still not eating enough.


  • rosebette wrote: »
    I can't imagine only eating half a cup of oatmeal, what a tease :dizzy_face:

    It depends whether it's a 1/2 cup cooked or dry. 1/2 cup dry yields one cup cooked. Irregardless, she's still not eating enough.

    Its already cooked.

    And I don't have an eating disorder any more.
  • Timorous_Beastie
    Timorous_Beastie Posts: 595 Member
    SammyBlz1 wrote: »
    Why did you change your goal from 130 to 120?

    I like the way my body is starting to look and I wish to be leaner. I used to be 120 my freshman year of highschool and gained a bunch of weight because of bad eating habits. I have decided this is a lifestyle change I need to keep.

    You were a child your freshman year of high school. You're a young woman now and young women have different bodies than children. :)


  • lhama83
    lhama83 Posts: 9 Member
    I wanted to share my experience with weight loss and plateaus. From 17 stone down to 10 it's been a stuggle for me. it wasn't until I read about re-calculating the amount of calories you eat as you loose weight to prevent the weight loss from suddenly stopping that I finally prevented plateaus from happening. Every 6lb lost you reduce intake by about 40-50 cals. my goal is another stone but I stopped losing about 2 weeks ago on 1200 cals per day. I've dropped to 1000cals and lost 2lb this week. I've had to use fortified shakes and meals to ensure I get enough protein, vitamins etc as its so low. I've reach day four and the hunger has gone to so I can get through this last stretch to reach my goal. I believe the last part is the hardest to shift so it's about finding what works for you. Eating very little like me can be risky for some but with common sense it's ok for me. Oh and exercise is extremely light at the mo the plan is once I've hit my goal I'll be increasing intake to maintain and getting back to the gym to improve on composition. Good luck and don't give up x ps you look pretty fab already great work on the weight loss for far
  • ogmomma2012
    ogmomma2012 Posts: 1,520 Member
    SammyBlz1 wrote: »
    rosebette wrote: »
    I can't imagine only eating half a cup of oatmeal, what a tease :dizzy_face:

    It depends whether it's a 1/2 cup cooked or dry. 1/2 cup dry yields one cup cooked. Irregardless, she's still not eating enough.

    Its already cooked.

    And I don't have an eating disorder any more.

    You have thigh-gap and still insist on working out to extremes and eating less. Your thinking is clouded. At least prioritize eating more and doing weights instead of cardio. You don't need to be losing more, you need to be toning but ALSO eating more. If you have the time to workout twice a day, you have the time to eat more.
  • amf0324
    amf0324 Posts: 46 Member
    40 pounds in 4 months? Holy shamoly....