If You Ate Whatever you wanted, no excersize, what do you think would be your stable bmi/ weight?
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Mine would never be stable. I never feel full so, without tracking, I would just get bigger and bigger until I was featured on one of those 'confined to my bed' shows.0
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I would be morbidly obese and end stage diabetic. :X I'm borderline diabetic at a BMI of only 21.5. The doctor just gave me a bunch of guidelines mandating that carbs never be consumed without protein paired with them (but I still have to stay inside calorie allowance) so.... man. More stuff to get used to.0
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For a large point in time I ate whatever I wanted, mostly junk food, and binge ate a lot. I stabilised at a BMI of 25-26.
I got to dieting and exercising and lost weight but then lost control and started eating whatever I wanted all over again. Strangely enough, that time my weight stabilised at a BMI of 22.5.0 -
If I eat anything more then 1800 a day I notice a change, I guess i'm just one of those unfortunate ones.0
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without exercise my maintenance calories are a paltry 2300 calories or so...if I ate like I do now without exercise I'd be huge...like I used to be.0
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I gain 3 pounds a year if I eat like I want to with not enough exercise. It's not the end, but after a while it starts to add up.0
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It depends what you mean by "no exercise." Do you mean being completely sedentary, or just doing your normal routine and not going to the gym or doing anything extra? If you mean literally no exercise (completely sedentary or just having an office job), I'd probably weigh around 140, which gives me a BMI of around 26.5-27. This is what I weighed when I broke my foot and was sedentary for about 3 months. However, if you just mean no "extra exercise," my weight would probably be around 126-130, BMI between 24-26, not that much heavier than I am now. When I go on vacations and eat what I want, this is typically where my weight goes. But on vacation, I still have some activity since I do a lot of walking and use the pool. Because I teach, I still have a moderate level of activity because I'm walking on a large campus and on my feet most of the day. Except with an injury, I've never done no activity at all.0
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I did that for a few yrs, 320 something....
I did lift though, so I wasn't that out of shape ( I am a huge framed dude)......I mean I was out of shape, but I wasn't like huffing and puffing after going up stairs, etc.
Ya, I like eating ......I can't relate to people who can't like scarf a lb of ground beef/broccoli when super hungry.0 -
Probably around 130-134lbs more or less, pretty much what I am now, so a BMI of 20-21. If I'm not exercising I tend to eat less, or I fidget a lot to make up for it. Right now I am bulking and I would normally never eat as much as I am now without trying.0
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twistytwist148 wrote: »For a large point in time I ate whatever I wanted, mostly junk food, and binge ate a lot. I stabilised at a BMI of 25-26.
I got to dieting and exercising and lost weight but then lost control and started eating whatever I wanted all over again. Strangely enough, that time my weight stabilised at a BMI of 22.5.
I find this interesting! usually people say that after prolonged dieting their natural bmi is much higher than when they started, once it levels off again anyway.
You're quite fortunate!! Cheers!0 -
It depends what you mean by "no exercise." Do you mean being completely sedentary, or just doing your normal routine and not going to the gym or doing anything extra? If you mean literally no exercise (completely sedentary or just having an office job), I'd probably weigh around 140, which gives me a BMI of around 26.5-27. This is what I weighed when I broke my foot and was sedentary for about 3 months. However, if you just mean no "extra exercise," my weight would probably be around 126-130, BMI between 24-26, not that much heavier than I am now. When I go on vacations and eat what I want, this is typically where my weight goes. But on vacation, I still have some activity since I do a lot of walking and use the pool. Because I teach, I still have a moderate level of activity because I'm walking on a large campus and on my feet most of the day. Except with an injury, I've never done no activity at all.
I meant no extra or formal excersize like gym, running, etc.
Thanks for sharing! So do you diet or keep your calories at a certain level then to maintain this? just letting yourself eat naturally on holidays only?
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Why are people even bringing up BMI; it's a completely discredited, outdated and arbitrary set of guidelines that are essentially meaningless in modern life.
NFL Linebackers are all morbidly obese, ya, ok.0 -
yoI did that for a few yrs, 320 something....
I did lift though, so I wasn't that out of shape ( I am a huge framed dude)......I mean I was out of shape, but I wasn't like huffing and puffing after going up stairs, etc.
Ya, I like eating ......I can't relate to people who can't like scarf a lb of ground beef/broccoli when super hungry.
You sound so normal, like a human being. Most people who are naturally in the overweight and obese categories are healthier into old age, that is what new research is finding. Cheers!0 -
yoI did that for a few yrs, 320 something....
I did lift though, so I wasn't that out of shape ( I am a huge framed dude)......I mean I was out of shape, but I wasn't like huffing and puffing after going up stairs, etc.
Ya, I like eating ......I can't relate to people who can't like scarf a lb of ground beef/broccoli when super hungry.
You sound so normal, like a human being. Most people who are naturally in the overweight and obese categories are healthier into old age, that is what new research is finding. Cheers!
Lol, do most people benchpress 400lbs naturally by basically putzing around in gyms for a few yrs?
It's not very helpful to draw conclusions about people's fitness levels based on weight imho....maybe it's the fact that I have an a-typical build, I dunno.
Also, you don't usually see guys that obsessed with actual numbers on a scale like women are. I really think it promotes some unhealthy notions about weight among women tbh.
People aren't all meant to be a specific weight at a specific height....if anything wrist and ankle circumference would be a superior measurment to construct a "BMI" chart upon.
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It depends what you mean by "no exercise." Do you mean being completely sedentary, or just doing your normal routine and not going to the gym or doing anything extra? If you mean literally no exercise (completely sedentary or just having an office job), I'd probably weigh around 140, which gives me a BMI of around 26.5-27. This is what I weighed when I broke my foot and was sedentary for about 3 months. However, if you just mean no "extra exercise," my weight would probably be around 126-130, BMI between 24-26, not that much heavier than I am now. When I go on vacations and eat what I want, this is typically where my weight goes. But on vacation, I still have some activity since I do a lot of walking and use the pool. Because I teach, I still have a moderate level of activity because I'm walking on a large campus and on my feet most of the day. Except with an injury, I've never done no activity at all.
I meant no extra or formal excersize like gym, running, etc.
Thanks for sharing! So do you diet or keep your calories at a certain level then to maintain this? just letting yourself eat naturally on holidays only?
I have been trying to get down to 115 for a year, but have never been able to maintain a weight below 120. I average between 120-123. I had my BMR tested in November, and it's only around 1136 calories; I have been netting between 1100-1200 (I eat back exercise calories), so you could say I'm "maintaining" on a net of around 1200, or a "gross" of between 1400-1500. If I were to eat whatever I want, I'd probably be eating around 2000 a day; even "uncontrolled," I usually can't finish an average restaurant meal. I'm also 56 years old, which explains the lower BMR and appetite. BTW, I am finding the whole discussion about whether a higher BMI is healthier for people over 50 very interesting. I had tried CRON (Calorie restriction with Optional Nutrition) earlier last year, which is the principle that restricting calories to 20% below BMR promotes longevity. It didn't last very long; I felt weak and tired most of the time. And apparently, the studies that a few folks are posting above disprove the CR for longevity theory.0 -
Why are people even bringing up BMI; it's a completely discredited, outdated and arbitrary set of guidelines that are essentially meaningless in modern life.
NFL Linebackers are all morbidly obese, ya, ok.
That is so not true. Yes, it's a not a perfect measure. Yes, for people who are all muscle it makes them look fat when they're not. Yes, it was meant to compare populations and not individuals. All true.
But for most of us, who are pretty sedentary - in fact MORE so for modern life than it was when people actually exercised as part of their daily lifestyle without going to the gym - it differentiates pretty well between people who are underweight, who are a decent healthy weight, who are overweight, and who are obese.
And it gets it one number that takes both weight and height into account. It doesn't take muscle into account. But it's just one number.
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That's a tough one. I've been gaining about a pound a year since my 20's, and then had a big increase when I changed medications a few years ago. SO, I think I'd weigh about 160 at 40 5'7" and gain 1-2 pounds a year. However, once I started a medication that upped my appetite at night I started eating like a crazy person and gained 25-30 pounds in three years.0
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I've been calorie counting for so long, that my way of eating has become habit. I had to take over a month off from the gym recently, and didn't gain any weight at all.
I have no doubt my body composition would change, but I really don't think I'd gain much weight at all these days. I can't help but do the mental math and eat in moderation anyway.
And that's coming from a guy who's currently munching on dark chocolate, and had chips & dip today :P0 -
I stabilized and maintained at 204 for about 4 years. I ate what I wanted and exercised in frequent (tennis in the summer and some biking... Not much in winter) At 5'7" I was at bmi of about 31.0
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Daily activity sure matters though. My high was maybe 165 pounds when I was in my early 20s and worked. I didn't exercise, but I was walking up to 2 hours a day just going to work, going to lunch etc. Once I stopped working and moved to the US, I put on 40 pounds in 5 years.. I don't think my diet changed that much, actually it was probably a bit better as I wasn't eating 2 croissants or more a day anymore, but I was just completely sedentary.0
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My bmi was about 30
Now it's 20-210 -
If I ate what I want, when I wanted and didn't exercise, I dread to think where I'd end up. Highest was 257, but that was going up at an expodential rate when I put a stop to it and recommitted to MFP. That was also a 40lb gain in a mere 12 months.0
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Why are people even bringing up BMI; it's a completely discredited, outdated and arbitrary set of guidelines that are essentially meaningless in modern life.
NFL Linebackers are all morbidly obese, ya, ok.
That is so not true. Yes, it's a not a perfect measure. Yes, for people who are all muscle it makes them look fat when they're not. Yes, it was meant to compare populations and not individuals. All true.
But for most of us, who are pretty sedentary - in fact MORE so for modern life than it was when people actually exercised as part of their daily lifestyle without going to the gym - it differentiates pretty well between people who are underweight, who are a decent healthy weight, who are overweight, and who are obese.
And it gets it one number that takes both weight and height into account. It doesn't take muscle into account. But it's just one number.
There are a myriad of reasons why this is a weak nonsensical post, but the most hilariously ridiculous assertion is BMI is becoming more relevant as history goes on?
Actually there is an easy 2 word explanation for why the opposite is true:
WEIGHT TRAINING.
The advent of weight training means people can build lean mass fairly easily at least to some extent and MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE DO whether you are aware of this or not in your cube world.
You cannot simply measure height and weight and have an accurate metric....like I said, why height?
Why not wrist circumference?0 -
Thanks for your interesting question.
I've never eaten everything I wanted, and I've always done at least some exercise. So if I truly gave up on my weight, ate when I was hungry or something looked yummy, and didn't do any exercise with weight loss in mind, I'd probably weigh over 400 lbs. Maybe more, as my ability to exercise "for fun" would decrease over time.0 -
I would easily be over 600 pounds. I have to have a tight reign on my eating.0
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I have just started do daily reports on my eating habits. So far I have lowered my calorie in take by 60. Last time I checked my bmi report I am suppose to weigh 158. I am below that now. Is they a table to do this by age instead of just height?0
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yoI did that for a few yrs, 320 something....
I did lift though, so I wasn't that out of shape ( I am a huge framed dude)......I mean I was out of shape, but I wasn't like huffing and puffing after going up stairs, etc.
Ya, I like eating ......I can't relate to people who can't like scarf a lb of ground beef/broccoli when super hungry.
You sound so normal, like a human being. Most people who are naturally in the overweight and obese categories are healthier into old age, that is what new research is finding. Cheers!
Lol, do most people benchpress 400lbs naturally by basically putzing around in gyms for a few yrs?
It's not very helpful to draw conclusions about people's fitness levels based on weight imho....maybe it's the fact that I have an a-typical build, I dunno.
Also, you don't usually see guys that obsessed with actual numbers on a scale like women are. I really think it promotes some unhealthy notions about weight among women tbh.
People aren't all meant to be a specific weight at a specific height....if anything wrist and ankle circumference would be a superior measurment to construct a "BMI" chart upon.
Just nonsense.
Yes, you are right, I agree, there is no 'normal' bmi, just like there is no'normal' height or 'normal' eye colour. weight/bmi is like height, its not really something we can change without a lot of violence to nature. Dieting is especially dangerous evidently.
True also, as you said, its not normal to be lifting, or running, or the gym. Normal is everyday work and activity, and eating to your personal appetite freely, isn't it?
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So looks like everyone here is convinced that without dieting and 'formal' out of the ordinary excersize they will become something they can't live with?0
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Ya, I like eating ......I can't relate to people who can't like scarf a lb of ground beef/broccoli when super hungry.
Zaxx, when I said that you sound like a normal human being, I was referring to the broccoli beef thing, I didn't make that clear. If people are hungry they should eat until filled.
I don't agree that wrist circumference is a good measure either, wrist circumference changes with girth gained, my own wrist will change an inch when I gain, I have a friend who's wrist changed an inch by gaining 20 pounds, so it just wouldnt be accurate as measure for making any weight a mandatory health definer.
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I have just started do daily reports on my eating habits. So far I have lowered my calorie in take by 60. Last time I checked my bmi report I am suppose to weigh 158. I am below that now. Is they a table to do this by age instead of just height?
Go to the halls.md site, it has age adjusted bmi. More importantly, read through some of the links there about how as we age bmi increases and that healthy bod weight is higher for people over 50. There are a few scientific papers there to read on the same subject. Also some charts that show the way increased girth and robustness will prolong life and that death rate decreases for those who have a higher stable body weight over age 50. The red highlighted sentences are where the links are that provide these charts and articles.
Best wishes for very good health to you!
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