If You Ate Whatever you wanted, no excersize, what do you think would be your stable bmi/ weight?
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softblondechick wrote: »I would easily be over 600 pounds. I have to have a tight reign on my eating.
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Thanks for your interesting question.
I've never eaten everything I wanted, and I've always done at least some exercise. So if I truly gave up on my weight, ate when I was hungry or something looked yummy, and didn't do any exercise with weight loss in mind, I'd probably weigh over 400 lbs. Maybe more, as my ability to exercise "for fun" would decrease over time.
You're very welcome, its increasingly interesting to me, this notion of appropriate, normal, weight. Science is testing its own theories again and there are serious questions about previous notions of what is healthy weight!
How old are you? Do you account for the natural healthy increase of weight as you grow older?0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Thanks. This one was focused on folks over 70, while she mentioned folks in their 50s. Clearly there's a bit left to learn about the aging body. Thanks for linking this.
Well, we better learn fast 'cause "the aging body" applies to everybody who has stopped growing, and that is calculated to be those of us over about the age of 24 years!!! lol! :-) me included!
Are you under 24 Sabin? and do you account for the healthy increase and stability of a higher bmi as you age?
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It depends what you mean by "no exercise." Do you mean being completely sedentary, or just doing your normal routine and not going to the gym or doing anything extra? If you mean literally no exercise (completely sedentary or just having an office job), I'd probably weigh around 140, which gives me a BMI of around 26.5-27. This is what I weighed when I broke my foot and was sedentary for about 3 months. However, if you just mean no "extra exercise," my weight would probably be around 126-130, BMI between 24-26, not that much heavier than I am now. When I go on vacations and eat what I want, this is typically where my weight goes. But on vacation, I still have some activity since I do a lot of walking and use the pool. Because I teach, I still have a moderate level of activity because I'm walking on a large campus and on my feet most of the day. Except with an injury, I've never done no activity at all.
I meant no extra or formal excersize like gym, running, etc.
Thanks for sharing! So do you diet or keep your calories at a certain level then to maintain this? just letting yourself eat naturally on holidays only?
I have been trying to get down to 115 for a year, but have never been able to maintain a weight below 120. I average between 120-123. I had my BMR tested in November, and it's only around 1136 calories; I have been netting between 1100-1200 (I eat back exercise calories), so you could say I'm "maintaining" on a net of around 1200, or a "gross" of between 1400-1500. If I were to eat whatever I want, I'd probably be eating around 2000 a day; even "uncontrolled," I usually can't finish an average restaurant meal. I'm also 56 years old, which explains the lower BMR and appetite. BTW, I am finding the whole discussion about whether a higher BMI is healthier for people over 50 very interesting. I had tried CRON (Calorie restriction with Optional Nutrition) earlier last year, which is the principle that restricting calories to 20% below BMR promotes longevity. It didn't last very long; I felt weak and tired most of the time. And apparently, the studies that a few folks are posting above disprove the CR for longevity theory.
I was actually never able to diet, all diets made me hungry, listless and tired.
There are a lot of recentt reviews and studies that are disproving lower weight as 'healthy', and that is with or without a lot of muscle in the mix. There are many reasons that higher weights can be healthier, bones, hormones and digestion being three good ones.
Good wishes on your health as you enjoy the best years of your life Rosebette!
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As I see some MFP people maintain on well over 2000 calories, I am curious to know what you would guess your weight or bmi would get to and stabelize at if you left off counting and ate whatever you wanted naturally.
Mine is around 27 - 28 bmi, I'm 65 years old and do some outdoor walks for groceries and such.
Well when I did that I was 170 lbs so I imagine around that. Although for the 10 years before that I maintained a weight of about 145-150.
I'm 5'4", 30 years old. Currently I weigh about 123 lbs.0 -
That's a tough one. I've been gaining about a pound a year since my 20's, and then had a big increase when I changed medications a few years ago. SO, I think I'd weigh about 160 at 40 5'7" and gain 1-2 pounds a year. However, once I started a medication that upped my appetite at night I started eating like a crazy person and gained 25-30 pounds in three years.
That's a tough one! I consistently hear how medications of all sorts distort the natural fall of weight mass. Evidently so do some of the stuffs put into household cleaning products, air sprays etc.
You two look pretty happy at the beach though. There's so much more to life than a skinny bod, lets face it, most of us aren't dependent on the status of ultraskinny to hold our jobs or anything. I hope!
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I've been calorie counting for so long, that my way of eating has become habit. I had to take over a month off from the gym recently, and didn't gain any weight at all.
I have no doubt my body composition would change, but I really don't think I'd gain much weight at all these days. I can't help but do the mental math and eat in moderation anyway.
And that's coming from a guy who's currently munching on dark chocolate, and had chips & dip today :P
I found that too! It seems body weight is like height, most people could estimate what they will naturally fall at by taking a careful, somewhat scrutinizing, look at their relatives. Discount your anorexic, restricting relatives, also the smokers, and allow for any major health problems and you have what you will normally get to. Also, discount a rapid weight gain after dieting, that's a false high.
It could take months to reach it, but ingeneral, just eating should take us there!
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smashley_mashley wrote: »I stabilized and maintained at 204 for about 4 years. I ate what I wanted and exercised in frequent (tennis in the summer and some biking... Not much in winter) At 5'7" I was at bmi of about 31.
That sounds healthy, did you decide to diet to drop in size after that? How old are you?
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So looks like everyone here is convinced that without dieting and 'formal' out of the ordinary excersize they will become something they can't live with?
No, I lived with myself just fine. I didn't love the way I looked but that was just one small part of my life-- it rarely affected me negatively (buying clothes comes to mind though).
But I started out to lose a few pounds for my wedding and then I felt so much better that I just kept going. When I added exercise it was better still. I've got a few chronic health issues that lifting weights really helped. Before I was completely sedentary.
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Well, I did eat whatever I want and not exercise for years (which is why I'm here, haha). My weight stabilized at exactly 267lbs which is a BMI of 43.1 and stayed there for 4-5 years. So I'm fairly confident that, if I were to eat whatever I wanted (yay!) and stop working out (nooo!), I'd end up just as morbidly obese as I started.
Now that I've been doing this almost two years and have lost 75+lbs, I'm tempted to say I could never eat the amounts that got me to that weight again... but if I weren't counting, who am I kidding? I'd love to eat an entire pizza for dinner multiple times a week and not have the consequences stare me in the face. That's why I track my food. Constant vigilance!
I could have written this exact post except for I was at my 238 pounds for almost twenty years. I guarantee if I were to eat whatever I wanted without counting and exercise, I would be right back there again. I have found I am still capable of eating incredible amounts of food, if I choose lol.0 -
ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »So looks like everyone here is convinced that without dieting and 'formal' out of the ordinary excersize they will become something they can't live with?
No, I lived with myself just fine. I didn't love the way I looked but that was just one small part of my life-- it rarely affected me negatively (buying clothes comes to mind though).
But I started out to lose a few pounds for my wedding and then I felt so much better that I just kept going. When I added exercise it was better still. I've got a few chronic health issues that lifting weights really helped. Before I was completely sedentary.
It sounds like you enjoy doing all the extras to keep thin and keep your chronic health issues at bay.
What chronic health issues does lifting help?
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ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »So looks like everyone here is convinced that without dieting and 'formal' out of the ordinary excersize they will become something they can't live with?
No, I lived with myself just fine. I didn't love the way I looked but that was just one small part of my life-- it rarely affected me negatively (buying clothes comes to mind though).
But I started out to lose a few pounds for my wedding and then I felt so much better that I just kept going. When I added exercise it was better still. I've got a few chronic health issues that lifting weights really helped. Before I was completely sedentary.
It sounds like you enjoy doing all the extras to keep thin and keep your chronic health issues at bay.
What chronic health issues does lifting help?
I've got fibromyalgia, and some other stuff that hasn't been identified yet (but hey, it's only been 14 years, who would expect a diagnosis in that amount of time :laugh:). Lots of studies show the benefits of exercise for fibro but I hated all of it until I found lifting.
I don't mind logging my food, although I don't know that I always will. I think with some rules in place for myself I could maintain without logging. I definitely think it has benefited me-- I eat a lot more vegetables and only eat treats moderately, which makes me enjoy them more.0 -
I don't know your age, but do you plan to keep lifting your whole life?
I prefer not to log calories myself, at this point I would like to just live more and fret less!:-)
I log now to make sure I get enough calories.0 -
If I truly ate whatever I wanted and didn't exercise, I would be extremely obese, like I was before. I'm not even sure I could put a cap on it.
Sounds about right. I'd be one of those people you see on those medical documentary shows who weighs near 1,000 lbs and needs to be weighed on a special scale0 -
So looks like everyone here is convinced that without dieting and 'formal' out of the ordinary excersize they will become something they can't live with?0
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By not caring about my body I was 432lbs (BMI - 60.2 = Class III Morbid Obesity) when i started my WOE in August, 27th 2013. May of been higher but i had just brought a scale that had a 440lb limit so 432lbs is my only recorded weight to go with.
Currently 185lbs (25.8)
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Ate what I want and no exercise? I'd probably creep up to 15 stone at 5'8.0
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At my worst I ate roughly 7,000 calories a day. On a weekend this would go up to 10-12,000 calories. I did that for about 5 years and only put on about 15lbs in each of those years, but as my body slowed down it's metabolism, I think I would gain a lot more and at 5'7 probably hit 300lbs within a few years!0
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gotfatincollege89 wrote: »If I truly ate whatever I wanted and didn't exercise, I would be extremely obese, like I was before. I'm not even sure I could put a cap on it.
Sounds about right. I'd be one of those people you see on those medical documentary shows who weighs near 1,000 lbs and needs to be weighed on a special scale
I think what they aren't saying is that only a VERY small percentage of humans have the capacity to reach that high of a body weight and sustain it, and then eating enough to succede in maintaining it.
we kind of focus on these few and feed the fear.
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So looks like everyone here is convinced that without dieting and 'formal' out of the ordinary excersize they will become something they can't live with?
Yes, its evident to me that people are mentally happier at their natural sze when just eating.
Take a look at celebs who loose weight, take a close look wt their eyes and facial tension in the 'thin' version as opposed to the happie relaxed faces of the more robust pictures! Its amazing!0 -
TheSatinPumpkin wrote: »By not caring about my body I was 432lbs (BMI - 60.2 = Class III Morbid Obesity) when i started my WOE in August, 27th 2013. May of been higher but i had just brought a scale that had a 440lb limit so 432lbs is my only recorded weight to go with.
Currently 185lbs (25.8)
What age are you now?0 -
jonsmithkidd wrote: »At my worst I ate roughly 7,000 calories a day. On a weekend this would go up to 10-12,000 calories. I did that for about 5 years and only put on about 15lbs in each of those years, but as my body slowed down it's metabolism, I think I would gain a lot more and at 5'7 probably hit 300lbs within a few years!
This is important information because if shows a real account of time, calories and height, not just a guess at where we MIGHT go if we ate until hunger is satisfied. Also, its not yoyo dieting either. And its not the rapid weight gain after a reducing diet, its not rebound weight, which gives a false impression that endless rapid weight gain will happen unless a diet is constantly taken on. Its weight added by natural eating, sounds great.
Thanks very much.
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darrensurrey wrote: »Ate what I want and no exercise? I'd probably creep up to 15 stone at 5'8.
Darren, that's not much really! You lucky dog!0 -
TheSatinPumpkin wrote: »By not caring about my body I was 432lbs (BMI - 60.2 = Class III Morbid Obesity) when i started my WOE in August, 27th 2013. May of been higher but i had just brought a scale that had a 440lb limit so 432lbs is my only recorded weight to go with.
Currently 185lbs (25.8)
What age are you now?
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So looks like everyone here is convinced that without dieting and 'formal' out of the ordinary excersize they will become something they can't live with?
I can live with it. I would weigh about 15-25 pounds more than I'd like to weigh. That's not terrible. If I gained weight uniformly, I would mind less, but it tends to glob on in certain spots and less in others.
I feel better physically and emotionally when I eat more nutritious foods and exercise regularly, AND when I feel better physically and emotionally, I eat more nutritious foods and exercise regularly. Injury and/or depression is what derails me.
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Interesting topic! My guess is I would have a BMI around 25 or 26, putting me in the slightly overweight catergory. I weigh around 122 now, I would probably be around 137-140 if I ate everything i wanted. If it was healthy and attractive, I'd do it!0
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So looks like everyone here is convinced that without dieting and 'formal' out of the ordinary excersize they will become something they can't live with?
Oh I could live with me, as long as someone was willing to bring me food and keep a roof over my head, but it wasn't going to be a very long, happy life.
That said, if I stay low carb there is a chance I won't have to count calories forever. Once I hit goal weight I'll attempt to learn to eat for my energy expenditure. I have no intention of giving up exercise, however. I'm really enjoying it, and soon the pool will open and I can add swimming to my fun!0 -
I would be back to where I started, 257 lbs and steadily gaining until I died of a weight related illness. I chose this!!!0
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Either 160 lbs, where I somehow maintained for quite a while, or 200.0
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