Help me solve an argument with my friend

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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    That's it. I'm never leaving my house again.

    As you shouldn't. :D
  • Laureani
    Laureani Posts: 134 Member
    capriqueen wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    capriqueen wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    capriqueen wrote: »
    meltedsno wrote: »
    capriqueen wrote: »

    Breakfast: Protein shake with 2/3c protein powder, 1/4 c oats, 1/3 banana, 1 tbsp chia seeds (280-300 calories with 25 g protein)

    your friend might be on to something....In another posting you said you are using Body Fortress and have 1/2 serving. 1/2 serving has 170 cal in it and is one scoop (that is provided with the protein powder). One scoop is about 1/4 c.

    Your serving size of 2/3c is closer to maybe 1 1/4 servings. That's putting your protein powder at around 215 calories alone. 1/4 c oats has around 100 calories, add 1/3 banana at around 35 calories... 1 Tbsp chia seeds is another 70 calories. Total this all up and your 280-300 calorie estimate is really 420 calories.


    I meant the 2/3 of the cup they provide, inside the box. It's smaller than the cup we use otherwise. They specify that the one cup of protein powder is a serving.. which is 150 calories.

    The food itself does not lead to weight gain. Weigh you food for accuracy all around.

    Do you weigh the scoop in grams to make sure you have a correct serving? In fact, do you weigh all your food to make sure your servings are correct?

    I don't have a food scale..... kind of on a budget and pressed for time with grad school, so I'm doing the best I can with what I have. But I can assure you I was not on this diet when I was gaining weight. I was eating fast food left, right and center..... and much,much more than my TDEE.

    you don't have 20.00??

    It's just $20.00?
    I do have that much. But I'm just worried weighing everything I eat might take up too much of my time. I'll think about it then....

    My food scale cost $7.19 on Amazon.
    Trust me it doesn't take that long to weigh your food, I'm a student as well and I'm very busy, you'll be fine.
  • crocky64
    crocky64 Posts: 93 Member
    Don't see a problem with having protein shakes but as stated in other feeds foods containing high proteins are better. Oh your friend is kinda right your body can only absorb a certain amount of protein and can stor the rest if you don't exercise or use it then your body could I repeat could turn it to fat over time.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    crocky64 wrote: »
    Don't see a problem with having protein shakes but as stated in other feeds foods containing high proteins are better. Oh your friend is kinda right your body can only absorb a certain amount of protein and can stor the rest if you don't exercise or use it then your body could I repeat could turn it to fat over time.

    what???????????????????
  • crocky64
    crocky64 Posts: 93 Member
    Yep spoke to nutritionist basically he explains when all said and done most shakes contain some form of calories these are what we store as energy excess energy has to go somewhere ???????
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    crocky64 wrote: »
    Yep spoke to nutritionist basically he explains when all said and done most shakes contain some form of calories these are what we store as energy excess energy has to go somewhere ???????

    Dude, get a new one!
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    crocky64 wrote: »
    Yep spoke to nutritionist basically he explains when all said and done most shakes contain some form of calories these are what we store as energy excess energy has to go somewhere ???????

    Well, I mean... ALL food contains calories. Eat anything in excess and you will likely eat above your caloric needs. Shakes are not in and of themselves going to cause gains or losses.
  • segacs
    segacs Posts: 4,599 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    Well, I mean... ALL food contains calories. Eat anything in excess and you will likely eat above your caloric needs. Shakes are not in and of themselves going to cause gains or losses.

    Yeah, I think this sounds like accurate information that just got misinterpreted somewhere.

    The body can "use" a certain amount of protein at a time for muscle repair. The rest it converts to energy, which gets stored (as excess fat) if not used.

    That's why it's usually not recommended to go super high on protein, even if lifting weights at a calorie deficit. Past a certain threshold, there's not much point in adding more protein, since it pretty much just gets processed same as any other calories.
  • crocky64
    crocky64 Posts: 93 Member
    The Calorific value of protein is the same as carbs. Your body doesn't know the difference of where the calories are coming from so if you think in literal terms you can easily have excess calories without knowing it. Use MFP to help control your deficit
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Oh my goodness. OP, if you come back, the best way to win this argument is to reach your goals eating as you please. You are doing fine.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    crocky64 wrote: »
    The Calorific value of protein is the same as carbs. Your body doesn't know the difference of where the calories are coming from so if you think in literal terms you can easily have excess calories without knowing it. Use MFP to help control your deficit

    The caloric total of a gram of carbohydrate is the same as that of a gram of protein however the body differentiates between the two easily.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    ana3067 wrote: »
    capriqueen wrote: »
    Why is pineapple evil? High GI?

    Because she doesn't think it tastes good.
    ana3067 wrote: »
    capriqueen wrote: »
    Why is pineapple evil? High GI?

    Because she doesn't think it tastes good.

    And it contamines everything it touches....evil.
  • Th3Ph03n1x
    Th3Ph03n1x Posts: 275 Member
    shaleeny88 wrote: »
    capriqueen wrote: »
    shaleeny88 wrote: »
    Natural protein is good... But protein from shakes or bars has a ridiculous amount of sugar. Best stick to natural protein.

    I make my own protein shakes from protein powder. Each scoop has 4 g of carbohydrate and no sugar.


    My point still stands. You need natural food protein. Protein powder has ingredients which you've never even heard of and most likely can't even spell . Just eat natural protein like fish, cheese, yoghurt etc.

    Natural protein is preferable but if it helps you get your protein in for the day there is nothing wrong with a shake. CI/CO
  • capriqueen
    capriqueen Posts: 974 Member
    crocky64 wrote: »
    The Calorific value of protein is the same as carbs. Your body doesn't know the difference of where the calories are coming from so if you think in literal terms you can easily have excess calories without knowing it. Use MFP to help control your deficit

    The caloric total of a gram of carbohydrate is the same as that of a gram of protein however the body differentiates between the two easily.

    By differentiate, do you mean using it to help repair/build muscle?
  • mochalovies
    mochalovies Posts: 192 Member
    Tell him to read.... *win argument*
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    edited February 2015
    crocky64 wrote: »
    The Calorific value of protein is the same as carbs. Your body doesn't know the difference of where the calories are coming from so if you think in literal terms you can easily have excess calories without knowing it. Use MFP to help control your deficit

    there super calorific exp-e-alidocious....