fifty shades of grey
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allthecatfishies wrote: »BinaryPulsar wrote: »Here's the point that everyone misses about these books. Ana is an innocent in the beginning who meets a guy who lives (supposedly) a BDSM lifestyle. He finds her intriguing and is drawn to her. When she does end up in his bed, they have "vanilla" sex, her way. Gently. When he presents her with the contract, she never signs it. When they go into his "room", they never do anything more than what Ana wants to do. The one time Christian goes to far and hurts Ana, she leaves him. Christian is so crushed by losing her, he promises to always do whatever she wants to get her back.
Ana RUNS the relationship. From day one. No one seems to get that. Yes, the books are poorly written. Yes, the characters are two-dimensional and unrealistic. Yes, many of us (myself included) skipped the overbearing number of sex scenes.
But these books made millions of dollars for EL James. and millions more for the movie rights. Why? Because women (probably subconsciously) connected to something in them. Empowerment hides in the pages of these books. Ana controls Christian from the day they meet. Their sex life, the other woman in his life, where they live, the child they have. When she's threatened, she helps to save herself. She solves the mystery of Christian's past and heals him.
It's not about porn, or romance. It's about women's power. Undoubtedly.
That was the impression I got from the movie. My husband was saying people would probably be less upset if she was portrayed as a victim and him as a villian. And he finds that odd and an interesting thing about the psychology of this.
In a normal, healthy relationship, usually the person who wants sex the least controls it. What's done, how often, etc., all are controlled by the less willing party.
Not in this case - she wants it, she just controls how it's done. Remember, she's a virgin at the start of the relationship, and very attracted to him.
Yeah, I think that because she is a virgin people view her like she is 15 year old teenager. But, she is a 21 year old virgin. She is old enough to lose her virginity.
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TheVegthlete wrote: »With the amount of money it made opening weekend, there are more lonely cat ladies in America than I thought.
I'm a lonely cat lady, and I'm not going to see that crap.
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jonsmithkidd wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »I didn't read the books, but I read the excerpt where he pulls the tampon out of her himself and starts going at it. That was enough to turn me off.
What...the....hell? That happens?!
*stares horrified* whoa.....gross0 -
Taylor_Bride_to_Be wrote: »So I've heard a lot of different views on fifty shades of gray , some people think its retarded, others find it amazing. What are your guys and girls views?
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For starters- I work with adults with developmental disabilities and find the word "retarded" offensive.
- The book was so poorly written I don't imagine the movie being any better. I got to chapter 10 before I called it quits.
Sorry, around where I live its thrown around lightly and with little regard, should've used a different term0 -
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Everyone is WAY too PC these days.0
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TheVegthlete wrote: »With the amount of money it made opening weekend, there are more lonely cat ladies in America than I thought.
I'm a lonely cat lady, and I'm not going to see that crap.
My husband wants no part of it and finds it offensive, he'd rather watch porn at home, not that we need it but *shrugs* fun to mix it up a bit, he sees it as a way for women to escape their everyday men (husbands, boyfriends) and daydream and fantasize about another man other then their own. It makes him mad to see a trailer on YouTube or on TV. He'd rather me not read the books or go see the movie, but the amount of both negative and positive feedback makes ms interested. *shrugs*0 -
_Lana_Lang wrote: »Taylor_Bride_to_Be wrote: »So I've heard a lot of different views on fifty shades of gray , some people think its retarded, others find it amazing. What are your guys and girls views?
What exactly do you mean by retarded? Because I'm sure you're not comparing the movie to a mentally challenged person are you?
Sorry, I was just referencing a post I saw on my fb, some guy was ranting about it0 -
Taylor_Bride_to_Be wrote: »So I've heard a lot of different views on fifty shades of gray , some people think its retarded, others find it amazing. What are your guys and girls views?
I wasn't insulting anyone? I was refrencing a post a guy made on my fb timeline0 -
Taylor_Bride_to_Be wrote: »So I've heard a lot of different views on fifty shades of gray , some people think its retarded, others find it amazing. What are your guys and girls views?
Based upon your use of the word "retarded" in this instance, I am sure the books are right in your wheelhouse.
For the hundredth time....I was referencing a post someone made on Facebook -_-0 -
Haven't read the book(s) and probably won't see the movie. Just because something is the ZOMG YOU MUST DO THIS THING MEOW thing of the moment doesn't mean I'm going to do it or care about it.
But then again, I didn't get on the Breaking Bad train until late in the game, so who knows.0 -
Taylor_Bride_to_Be wrote: »Taylor_Bride_to_Be wrote: »So I've heard a lot of different views on fifty shades of gray , some people think its retarded, others find it amazing. What are your guys and girls views?
Based upon your use of the word "retarded" in this instance, I am sure the books are right in your wheelhouse.
For the hundredth time....I was referencing a post someone made on Facebook -_-
But how does that make it right? Surely you have a filter of your own.0 -
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Nope, no thanks. I started reading the first chapter and found it poorly written...I also don't like that it conveys the message that emotionally abusive relationships are something to pine for. Being a survivor of domestic violence, the whole series just makes me uncomfortable.0
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Read all three books, they weren't all that well written, but they kept me entertained. Won't be seeing the movie, but I will say that the soundtrack is amazing.0
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1. The books were written like bad fanfiction because they WERE bad fanfiction. It was a painful read.
2. The storyline is an embarrassment on the BDSM community and it's sad that some people are going to think that's what actually happens in these type of relationships. Not the case.
3. The actors playing Anastasia and Christian aren't nearly as attractive as they were made out to be in the book, so there's that.
4. If that girl bit her lip or talked about her inner goddess one more time, I probably would've gouged my eyes.
5. I disliked every single character in the book, especially Anastasia. She was just plain annoying and childish. Nothing sexy about that.
6. I won't be spending my hard-earned cash to watch this in theaters. I may watch it for free on Netflix in a few months, but I'm not expecting much. I can get hotter erotica for free online.
On the other hand, all of these people (especially here in the south) protesting this film because of the "sexual abuse" and "immoral content" just piss me off. Get over it, people. There are much more damaging things out there. Fifty Shades isn't going to scar anyone for life.0 -
kinkyslinky16 wrote: »BinaryPulsar wrote: »kinkyslinky16 wrote: »BinaryPulsar wrote: »myfelinepal wrote: »50 shades of grey; what middle aged women do when they're not in Zumba class.
The existence of this book and movie has sure brought out the way people stereotype middle aged women, married women, women that have children.
Right!!
If you're mom that means you like mommy porn and mommy sex.
I am a mom and currently pregnant and still like being tied up and spanked, even way before these kids came along
Hahahahaha I'm not a mom but I enjoy it too!0 -
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Taylor_Bride_to_Be wrote: »xTaylor_Bride_to_Be wrote: »So I've heard a lot of different views on fifty shades of gray , some people think its retarded, others find it amazing. What are your guys and girls views?
Based upon your use of the word "retarded" in this instance, I am sure the books are right in your wheelhouse.
For the hundredth time....I was referencing a post someone made on Facebook -_-
But how does that make it right? Surely you have a filter of your own.
If you had read any of NY posts you would have seen I apologized and said I should have used a different term.0 -
So_Much_Fab wrote: »
Im sorry but what does PC mean?0 -
PC = Politically Correct0
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hollydubs85 wrote: »I'd rather watch porn with my husband (and have it lead somewhere) than watch soft-core drivel with a crowded theater of women.
QFT.0 -
A waste of money and cable ties0
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hollydubs85 wrote: »I didn't read the books, but I read the excerpt where he pulls the tampon out of her himself and starts going at it. That was enough to turn me off.
Really?! I have not read any of the books, but that just turned me off too. Ugh...0 -
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Taylor_Bride_to_Be wrote: »Taylor_Bride_to_Be wrote: »So I've heard a lot of different views on fifty shades of gray , some people think its retarded, others find it amazing. What are your guys and girls views?
Based upon your use of the word "retarded" in this instance, I am sure the books are right in your wheelhouse.
For the hundredth time....I was referencing a post someone made on Facebook -_-
It doesn't matter if it's the millionth time, some people just like to argue.
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A lot of girls fantasize about being dominated by a rich, powerful, attractive man.
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