Did I sabotage my diet plan?
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KirstyBorg wrote: »I haven't seen his qualifications but I'll ask
Lolz.... And people wonder why they get taken all the time.
Yeah, even I was :huh:
"He's qualified but I don't know his qualifications..."
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margolinville wrote: »maillemaker wrote: »Unless you have consumed poisons or heavy metals, there is no such thing as detoxification.
You are right! A detox from not training your brain to think correctly is needed! Most people don't know how to say NO to their brain.
Except that still wouldn't be a "detox"
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KirstyBorg wrote: »I'm already working out but not 100% pushing myself.
I did not ask if my 2 week plan was right or not.
All I wanted to know is if I just ignore the day and continue tomorrow or skip my lunch since I had too much chocolate and continue on my diet.
If someone gave you this plan, don't you think questions regarding this plan should be directed to them?
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Look I mean, I don't have an appetite to re-hash all of my posts here again. You can trudge through the posts if you want (I suspect you don't want to). There's not enough info there. Was the OP not available to start physical training until 2 weeks from now due to travel/work/an injury so they started with just a diet? Was the trainer unavailable to train her for 2 weeks? Was the gym closed for rennos? Was the trainer a wingnut who is simply an idiot? Did the OP INSIST on starting diet first and it's not the trainer's fault at all?
The OP presented not enough information to decide. Lots of possibilities including both that the trainer is wrong, the OP is wrong, or nobody is wrong.
its called reading comprehension skills.. "my trainer gave me"..
you're the one jumping to other possible conclusions when the words that mean her trainer told her to do these things were typed..
turns out her trainer did tell her she needed to detox the salt, sugar, alcohol from her body..that she was only allowed to eat fish and not allowed to have pasta..and that this was to be done for two weeks before she could start her intense training. sure, that information was given later and only proved that people weren't off base.. but that doesn't mean that the first sentence wasn't clear enough about the intent of this trainer.0 -
You are describing a logical fallacy known as a Moving Goalpost. The initial criticism was uncalled for, later information justified it, therefore the initial criticism was supposedly justified. I'm sorry, but logic doesn't work that way. I don't expect you to understand.-1
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I'm sure your trainer was trying to be helpful. I ask my trainer what has worked for his other clients and what hasn't. But, because he isn't a dietician, I research foods myself and come to a conclusion that way. I try to stay away from foods loaded with sugar (lots of low-fat yogurts are, so be careful) and eat whole foods (lean meats, veggies and fruits). But Cheat Days are essential, if nothing else than just to keep my sanity. My cheat days are once a week (maybe look into carb cycling?). Anyway, I always try to do my own research and look at a lot of different sources.0
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You are describing a logical fallacy known as a Moving Goalpost. The initial criticism was uncalled for, later information justified it, therefore the initial criticism was supposedly justified. I'm sorry, but logic doesn't work that way. I don't expect you to understand.
The initial criticism being uncalled for is your opinion, not a fact. That's where you seem to get confused.0 -
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You are describing a logical fallacy known as a Moving Goalpost. The initial criticism was uncalled for, later information justified it, therefore the initial criticism was supposedly justified. I'm sorry, but logic doesn't work that way. I don't expect you to understand.
Don't you think that's enough already? You're criticizing what people said when it's not your job to defend people. Then you do it by insulting others. Enough already. Just walk away before this thread gets locked up because it's coming soon.
And FYI - You attempted to sht talk me, I made my point then you responded with trying to insult me in another post you wrote directed at someone else. I let it go. Walk away from this thread l, move on.
I guess my admit defeat post was wrong.
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You are describing a logical fallacy known as a Moving Goalpost. The initial criticism was uncalled for, later information justified it, therefore the initial criticism was supposedly justified. I'm sorry, but logic doesn't work that way. I don't expect you to understand.
it was under my belief, because i took the words at face value, that her trainer had told her to detox for two weeks before training. both of those things aren't necessary.
logic has nothing to do with your opinion that the initial criticism was uncalled for..and everything to do with working with the information provided. the logical thing to do would be to read the words at face value and not make up 100 different versions of what could have happened. she didn't say she was on a two week detox before training..she said specifically that her trainer told her to do these things.0 -
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yopeeps025 wrote: »You are describing a logical fallacy known as a Moving Goalpost. The initial criticism was uncalled for, later information justified it, therefore the initial criticism was supposedly justified. I'm sorry, but logic doesn't work that way. I don't expect you to understand.
Don't you think that's enough already? You're criticizing what people said when it's not your job to defend people. Then you do it by insulting others. Enough already. Just walk away before this thread gets locked up because it's coming soon.
And FYI - You attempted to sht talk me, I made my point then you responded with trying to insult me in another post you wrote directed at someone else. I let it go. Walk away from this thread l, move on.
I guess my admit defeat post was wrong.
Nah, you are obviously entitled to your opinion but in my opinion I actually don't like for someone to admit they are wrong. In the game of mind f'ing someone you get win by infiltrating and getting them to corner themselves and seeing which emotional direction they resort to. You can clearly see when someone knows they are wrong. You don't need them to admit it. I find it more pleasurable to be able to be in someone's mind better than they can in their own.
I like you 'cos you kinda freaky
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yopeeps025 wrote: »You are describing a logical fallacy known as a Moving Goalpost. The initial criticism was uncalled for, later information justified it, therefore the initial criticism was supposedly justified. I'm sorry, but logic doesn't work that way. I don't expect you to understand.
Don't you think that's enough already? You're criticizing what people said when it's not your job to defend people. Then you do it by insulting others. Enough already. Just walk away before this thread gets locked up because it's coming soon.
And FYI - You attempted to sht talk me, I made my point then you responded with trying to insult me in another post you wrote directed at someone else. I let it go. Walk away from this thread l, move on.
I guess my admit defeat post was wrong.
Nah, you are obviously entitled to your opinion but in my opinion I actually don't like for someone to admit they are wrong. In the game of mind f'ing someone you get win by infiltrating and getting them to corner themselves and seeing which emotional direction they resort to. You can clearly see when someone knows they are wrong. You don't need them to admit it. I find it more pleasurable to be able to be in someone's mind better than they can in their own.
Which was why I was such a good target last year because I hate saying I'm wrong.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »You are describing a logical fallacy known as a Moving Goalpost. The initial criticism was uncalled for, later information justified it, therefore the initial criticism was supposedly justified. I'm sorry, but logic doesn't work that way. I don't expect you to understand.
Don't you think that's enough already? You're criticizing what people said when it's not your job to defend people. Then you do it by insulting others. Enough already. Just walk away before this thread gets locked up because it's coming soon.
And FYI - You attempted to sht talk me, I made my point then you responded with trying to insult me in another post you wrote directed at someone else. I let it go. Walk away from this thread l, move on.
I guess my admit defeat post was wrong.
Nah, you are obviously entitled to your opinion but in my opinion I actually don't like for someone to admit they are wrong. In the game of mind f'ing someone you get win by infiltrating and getting them to corner themselves and seeing which emotional direction they resort to. You can clearly see when someone knows they are wrong. You don't need them to admit it. I find it more pleasurable to be able to be in someone's mind better than they can in their own.
Which was why I was such a good target last year because I hate saying I'm wrong.
well its gotta blow to come in the thread guns blazing, blasting everyone for criticizing OP and then realizing you were dead wrong..
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You are describing a logical fallacy known as a Moving Goalpost. The initial criticism was uncalled for, later information justified it, therefore the initial criticism was supposedly justified. I'm sorry, but logic doesn't work that way. I don't expect you to understand.
Yo - that's NOT Moving The Goalposts, Bro.
Most folks just call that "being right"
Just sayin' ...
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yopeeps025 wrote: »TheVirgoddess wrote: »MrM27, that post is exactly my point.
You, presented with zero information on the suggested diet - for all you know, the "detox" could have been "sign up with MFP and eat the calories suggested" - say to fire the trainer, which for somebody lost and confused is easily read as "fire your trainer who you are probably paying lots of money for because you hired an idiot, and therefore, you yourself are probably an idiot."
It's not helpful, in any way.
You don't even know if the trainer is the one who used the word detox! It's such a hot buzz word in every magazine and TV show that for all we know, the trainer suggested a diet and the OP or someone else labeled it a detox. We know so few facts here (a fault of the OP, to be fair) that the criticism here is unjustified. I think it is fair to critique the lack of information, but not fair to criticism what you GUESS that information to be.
Except you're wrong:KirstyBorg wrote: »He uses the word detox because I don't have any pasta or bread or meat apart from fish (3 times a day) for these 2 weeks (I have carbs in porridge, broccoli and so on)
Except my comment was with regards to the second post in this entire thread. Thanks for coming out.
I cannot stop laughing at this.
Me either. I've never seen this one. Hilarious! Going to have to save it for future use.0 -
I would like to thank everyone for their comments.
I mainly wanted to know what should I do when I go off track from a diet plan.
Most of you have a point and I need to question my trainers decision which I will do!
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yopeeps025 wrote: »TheVirgoddess wrote: »MrM27, that post is exactly my point.
You, presented with zero information on the suggested diet - for all you know, the "detox" could have been "sign up with MFP and eat the calories suggested" - say to fire the trainer, which for somebody lost and confused is easily read as "fire your trainer who you are probably paying lots of money for because you hired an idiot, and therefore, you yourself are probably an idiot."
It's not helpful, in any way.
You don't even know if the trainer is the one who used the word detox! It's such a hot buzz word in every magazine and TV show that for all we know, the trainer suggested a diet and the OP or someone else labeled it a detox. We know so few facts here (a fault of the OP, to be fair) that the criticism here is unjustified. I think it is fair to critique the lack of information, but not fair to criticism what you GUESS that information to be.
Except you're wrong:KirstyBorg wrote: »He uses the word detox because I don't have any pasta or bread or meat apart from fish (3 times a day) for these 2 weeks (I have carbs in porridge, broccoli and so on)
Except my comment was with regards to the second post in this entire thread. Thanks for coming out.
I cannot stop laughing at this.
Me either. I've never seen this one. Hilarious! Going to have to save it for future use.
I have seen it before so can't take credit for being original gif poster...0 -
KirstyBorg wrote: »I would like to thank everyone for their comments.
I mainly wanted to know what should I do when I go off track from a diet plan.
Most of you have a point and I need to question my trainers decision which I will do!
Thanks for your support
just move on to the next day and keep working. its not healthy to feel down or like you need to stop all efforts because of an unplanned indulgence. if you stop all the time, you will never make any marked progress.
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blktngldhrt wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »TheVirgoddess wrote: »Am I the only one totally grossed out by food fountains? I'm not a germaphobe, but I can't stop thinking that the fountains are a hotbed of herpes or something.
Don't invite dirty people to your fountain.
This made my day.
If they are clean, clothing optional might be a thing.
I eat clean so I'm good right?
if you're eating clean..what do you want with a chocolate caramel fountain?
What I do with the fountain is between me and god.
I'm glad I have a good camera.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »You are describing a logical fallacy known as a Moving Goalpost. The initial criticism was uncalled for, later information justified it, therefore the initial criticism was supposedly justified. I'm sorry, but logic doesn't work that way. I don't expect you to understand.
Don't you think that's enough already? You're criticizing what people said when it's not your job to defend people. Then you do it by insulting others. Enough already. Just walk away before this thread gets locked up because it's coming soon.
And FYI - You attempted to sht talk me, I made my point then you responded with trying to insult me in another post you wrote directed at someone else. I let it go. Walk away from this thread l, move on.
I guess my admit defeat post was wrong.
Nah, you are obviously entitled to your opinion but in my opinion I actually don't like for someone to admit they are wrong. In the game of mind f'ing someone you get win by infiltrating and getting them to corner themselves and seeing which emotional direction they resort to. You can clearly see when someone knows they are wrong. You don't need them to admit it. I find it more pleasurable to be able to be in someone's mind better than they can in their own.
Which was why I was such a good target last year because I hate saying I'm wrong.
You have so many chances to practice saying it tho bro.
InB4 shutupdave0 -
KirstyBorg wrote: »I would like to thank everyone for their comments.
I mainly wanted to know what should I do when I go off track from a diet plan.
Most of you have a point and I need to question my trainers decision which I will do!
Thanks for your support
Lady, I would fire the diet plan and the trainer.0 -
KirstyBorg wrote: »I would like to thank everyone for their comments.
I mainly wanted to know what should I do when I go off track from a diet plan.
Most of you have a point and I need to question my trainers decision which I will do!
Thanks for your support
Here we are six pages into this and you still haven't detailed the plan so how can anyone say if it is something you should continue on with it or not?0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »KirstyBorg wrote: »I would like to thank everyone for their comments.
I mainly wanted to know what should I do when I go off track from a diet plan.
Most of you have a point and I need to question my trainers decision which I will do!
Thanks for your support
Here we are six pages into this and you still haven't detailed the plan so how can anyone say if it is something you should continue on with it or not?
there might not be a plan?
THERE IS NO SPOON!0 -
trogalicious wrote: »KirstyBorg wrote: »...keep following the plan?
Listen to The Beard. The Beard knows all! ooooooooom
(Seriously, that thing is majestic!)0 -
KirstyBorg wrote: »I would like to thank everyone for their comments.
I mainly wanted to know what should I do when I go off track from a diet plan.
Most of you have a point and I need to question my trainers decision which I will do!
Thanks for your support
Lady, I would fire the diet plan and the trainer.
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just wanted to add that there are some legitimate purposes to 'detoxes'. I have severe allergies - many of them foods - and because they present differently than most food allergies, they hadn't been discovered by allergy testing. I was extremely sick even though I was eating 'healthfully' about 15 years ago now. I asked a friend who was a nurse help me create a diet to detox my body - i wasn't looking to lose weight - i was looking to elimiante whatever was making me feel crappy. It was one of the best decisions of my life, because I discovered all my food allergies and am now healthier than i ever have been, from avoiding these foods.0
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So, to answer the actual question first, no. If you go "off program," regardless of your program, you haven't undone your previous work or ruined anything. You have merely made an adult decision to delay the gratification of reaching your goal for a more immediate gratification of whatever you consumed. Even those who do keto, which takes a little effort to get into, will go off program once in a while for something they feel is worth it. And that's the trick...just make sure you're making a rational decision to make an exception because something is worth it to you, and not just because it's offered, or free, or there, or whatever.
Regarding the controversy, just be aware that most personal trainers do not have a background or education in nutrition, and they unfortunately are just as prone to buying into bro science as the rest of the population. Keeping an ear out for buzzwords like "clean" and "detox" can help weed those out, but they don't necessarily disqualify someone. Communication is key with a personal trainer. Any trainer should not mind in the least sharing his or her education and qualifications, and should not mind backing up their recommendations with science. A good trainer is eager for you to learn, not just follow blindly.0 -
OK my advice is to just get right back onto your healthy eating plan and try to forget about the little thingy with the chocolate fountain. 0
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