Can you really eat a burger?
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What?Jesusjohnjames wrote: »Do you want energy to workout if so then NOOOOOOOOO
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Of course! A grass fed all organic ground beef, medium rare. You should join the paleo lifestyle, which is what I'm on0
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AnnaNutBread89 wrote: »Of course! A grass fed all organic ground beef, medium rare. You should join the paleo lifestyle, which is what I'm on
Do you get a nickel for every convert or something?0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »AnnaNutBread89 wrote: »Of course! A grass fed all organic ground beef, medium rare. You should join the paleo lifestyle, which is what I'm on
Do you get a nickel for every convert or something?
Silly. Our Paleo ancestors didn't use nickels. She gets a polished rock for every convert.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »AnnaNutBread89 wrote: »Of course! A grass fed all organic ground beef, medium rare. You should join the paleo lifestyle, which is what I'm on
Do you get a nickel for every convert or something?
Silly. Our Paleo ancestors didn't use nickels. She gets a polished rock for every convert.
But apparently they did have meat grinders.
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I've seen a study like that in a different thread. Neither did it affect everyone, nor was it a flat percentage of calories that they burnt less. The differences were actually pretty severe between people. Also there was pretty much no participants who were physically active so they had no idea if that effect would still happen if you work out. Seems far from conclusive to me.maillemaker wrote: »it all comes down to CICO my friend...
consume less than you are burning and you will lose weight.
Yes! Absolutely!Unless of course your claim is that being obese puts you outside of the realm of math and physics that apply to all of this?
Gah! No! Please, please when you have an hour, watch the video. It's pretty easy to follow in spite of the medical and genetic lingo.
All this this is saying is that when you have been obese for some period of time (and they are not clear on exactly how much time is required) if you lose body fat it triggers a loss of Leptin (among other unknown-at-this-time effects) that trigger defensive mechanisms to try and restore fat levels to their previous high levels. It does this by reducing metabolism (primarily by making skeletal muscle about 20% more efficient), increasing hunger, and increasing preoccupation with food. And so far as scientists can tell at this point, this effect may be permanent. They can't tell that everyone is effected this way, but so far, everyone they have studied has been effected this way.
The upshot of this is that when a formerly obese person loses weight, they end up with a metabolism that is 10-15% less than someone of the same weight who was never obese.
So not only do you have to learn to make due with eating maintenance for the new weight, you have to learn to make due with eating 10-15% less than that. Most people can't tolerate this which is probably why most people end up failing wait loss long-term.
The only known mechanism at this time that permanently stops this mechanism is bariatric surgery. Leptin replacement therapy seems to also quiet the defense mechanism but obviously is not permanent.
Another option is appetite suppressants, which is the route I'm currently going. Like Leptin replacement therapy, it's not permanent, either, but my hope is I can use it to get to maintenance and then ride it on and off on maintenance until a better solution to the problem comes along.
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No burgers for you! One Year!
Unless of course these were ice age sourced wooly mammoths solely fed on pristine tundra and harvested via club.0 -
maillemaker wrote: »it all comes down to CICO my friend...
consume less than you are burning and you will lose weight.
Yes! Absolutely!Unless of course your claim is that being obese puts you outside of the realm of math and physics that apply to all of this?
Gah! No! Please, please when you have an hour, watch the video. It's pretty easy to follow in spite of the medical and genetic lingo.
All this this is saying is that when you have been obese for some period of time (and they are not clear on exactly how much time is required) if you lose body fat it triggers a loss of Leptin (among other unknown-at-this-time effects) that trigger defensive mechanisms to try and restore fat levels to their previous high levels. It does this by reducing metabolism (primarily by making skeletal muscle about 20% more efficient), increasing hunger, and increasing preoccupation with food. And so far as scientists can tell at this point, this effect may be permanent. They can't tell that everyone is effected this way, but so far, everyone they have studied has been effected this way.
The upshot of this is that when a formerly obese person loses weight, they end up with a metabolism that is 10-15% less than someone of the same weight who was never obese.
So not only do you have to learn to make due with eating maintenance for the new weight, you have to learn to make due with eating 10-15% less than that. Most people can't tolerate this which is probably why most people end up failing wait loss long-term.
The only known mechanism at this time that permanently stops this mechanism is bariatric surgery. Leptin replacement therapy seems to also quiet the defense mechanism but obviously is not permanent.
Another option is appetite suppressants, which is the route I'm currently going. Like Leptin replacement therapy, it's not permanent, either, but my hope is I can use it to get to maintenance and then ride it on and off on maintenance until a better solution to the problem comes along.
Instead of watching another 1 hour video why don't you go for a jog?
You'd get sweaty. Far more sweaty than wearing chainmail to a renaissance festival on a hot day...0 -
14 pages? I just asked if a cheeseburger is allowed. By the way, it was awesome!!!0
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mraudit2000 wrote: »14 pages? I just asked if a cheeseburger is allowed. By the way, it was awesome!!!
Glad you enjoyed your burger!0 -
maillemaker wrote: »it all comes down to CICO my friend...
consume less than you are burning and you will lose weight.
Yes! Absolutely!Unless of course your claim is that being obese puts you outside of the realm of math and physics that apply to all of this?
Gah! No! Please, please when you have an hour, watch the video. It's pretty easy to follow in spite of the medical and genetic lingo.
All this this is saying is that when you have been obese for some period of time (and they are not clear on exactly how much time is required) if you lose body fat it triggers a loss of Leptin (among other unknown-at-this-time effects) that trigger defensive mechanisms to try and restore fat levels to their previous high levels. It does this by reducing metabolism (primarily by making skeletal muscle about 20% more efficient), increasing hunger, and increasing preoccupation with food. And so far as scientists can tell at this point, this effect may be permanent. They can't tell that everyone is effected this way, but so far, everyone they have studied has been effected this way.
The upshot of this is that when a formerly obese person loses weight, they end up with a metabolism that is 10-15% less than someone of the same weight who was never obese.
So not only do you have to learn to make due with eating maintenance for the new weight, you have to learn to make due with eating 10-15% less than that. Most people can't tolerate this which is probably why most people end up failing wait loss long-term.
The only known mechanism at this time that permanently stops this mechanism is bariatric surgery. Leptin replacement therapy seems to also quiet the defense mechanism but obviously is not permanent.
Another option is appetite suppressants, which is the route I'm currently going. Like Leptin replacement therapy, it's not permanent, either, but my hope is I can use it to get to maintenance and then ride it on and off on maintenance until a better solution to the problem comes along.
Instead of watching another 1 hour video why don't you go for a jog?
You'd get sweaty. Far more sweaty than wearing chainmail to a renaissance festival on a hot day...
I wanna go to a RenFest!!0 -
Also, this is a fantastic burger:
And while I was there, I had half a apple pie shake (half was still a full glass). Next time, it will be a kitchen sink:
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maillemaker wrote: »it all comes down to CICO my friend...
consume less than you are burning and you will lose weight.
Yes! Absolutely!Unless of course your claim is that being obese puts you outside of the realm of math and physics that apply to all of this?
Gah! No! Please, please when you have an hour, watch the video. It's pretty easy to follow in spite of the medical and genetic lingo.
All this this is saying is that when you have been obese for some period of time (and they are not clear on exactly how much time is required) if you lose body fat it triggers a loss of Leptin (among other unknown-at-this-time effects) that trigger defensive mechanisms to try and restore fat levels to their previous high levels. It does this by reducing metabolism (primarily by making skeletal muscle about 20% more efficient), increasing hunger, and increasing preoccupation with food. And so far as scientists can tell at this point, this effect may be permanent. They can't tell that everyone is effected this way, but so far, everyone they have studied has been effected this way.
The upshot of this is that when a formerly obese person loses weight, they end up with a metabolism that is 10-15% less than someone of the same weight who was never obese.
So not only do you have to learn to make due with eating maintenance for the new weight, you have to learn to make due with eating 10-15% less than that. Most people can't tolerate this which is probably why most people end up failing wait loss long-term.
The only known mechanism at this time that permanently stops this mechanism is bariatric surgery. Leptin replacement therapy seems to also quiet the defense mechanism but obviously is not permanent.
Another option is appetite suppressants, which is the route I'm currently going. Like Leptin replacement therapy, it's not permanent, either, but my hope is I can use it to get to maintenance and then ride it on and off on maintenance until a better solution to the problem comes along.
I have been reading alot of your posts lately and it almost seems like instead of listening to the people on this site that have been in your shoes and lost tons of weight you rather try to find any excuse to hinder your own progress. Do you want to tlose weight or not?0 -
mraudit2000 wrote: »14 pages? I just asked if a cheeseburger is allowed. By the way, it was awesome!!!
This was a surprisingly fun thread. Thank you for starting it, and thank you for my dinner idea last night. Mine was awesome too!
Except I sliced my thumb on the mandolin while slicing onions for the burger. That kinda sucked.
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Day late and dollar short, ohhh well!! LOL
So much laughter in this thread!!!
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maillemaker wrote: »it all comes down to CICO my friend...
consume less than you are burning and you will lose weight.
Yes! Absolutely!Unless of course your claim is that being obese puts you outside of the realm of math and physics that apply to all of this?
Gah! No! Please, please when you have an hour, watch the video. It's pretty easy to follow in spite of the medical and genetic lingo.
All this this is saying is that when you have been obese for some period of time (and they are not clear on exactly how much time is required) if you lose body fat it triggers a loss of Leptin (among other unknown-at-this-time effects) that trigger defensive mechanisms to try and restore fat levels to their previous high levels. It does this by reducing metabolism (primarily by making skeletal muscle about 20% more efficient), increasing hunger, and increasing preoccupation with food. And so far as scientists can tell at this point, this effect may be permanent. They can't tell that everyone is effected this way, but so far, everyone they have studied has been effected this way.
The upshot of this is that when a formerly obese person loses weight, they end up with a metabolism that is 10-15% less than someone of the same weight who was never obese.
So not only do you have to learn to make due with eating maintenance for the new weight, you have to learn to make due with eating 10-15% less than that. Most people can't tolerate this which is probably why most people end up failing wait loss long-term.
The only known mechanism at this time that permanently stops this mechanism is bariatric surgery. Leptin replacement therapy seems to also quiet the defense mechanism but obviously is not permanent.
Another option is appetite suppressants, which is the route I'm currently going. Like Leptin replacement therapy, it's not permanent, either, but my hope is I can use it to get to maintenance and then ride it on and off on maintenance until a better solution to the problem comes along.
Instead of watching another 1 hour video why don't you go for a jog?
You'd get sweaty. Far more sweaty than wearing chainmail to a renaissance festival on a hot day...
Ba ha ha!
Do they have burgers at RenFest? I just remember giant turkey legs...0 -
Day late and dollar short, ohhh well!! LOL
So much laughter in this thread!!!
Me too! Just read through the whole thread over the course of the morning and it was entertaining.
Now I want a burger...
My husband just scored some venison patties from a guy at work, so I will probably be making them this weekend.0 -
mraudit2000 wrote: »14 pages? I just asked if a cheeseburger is allowed. By the way, it was awesome!!!
lol too funny!
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mraudit2000 wrote: »14 pages? I just asked if a cheeseburger is allowed. By the way, it was awesome!!!
Glad you enjoyed the burger and started this thread!
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