A short rant about many of the posts I have been seeing here. May come off as harsh but must be said

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  • nikkinoellemary
    nikkinoellemary Posts: 119 Member
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    Lol. I agree that Joe came off as abrasive but he did preface with that very disclaimer, so for me it is whatever. People are allowed to be passionate. He had the self awareness to say 'hey, my wording probably going to make some of you mad, but I have to say what I need to say.'

    And to the people who are dismissing and invalidating his thoughts and opinions simply because of his age, shame on you. Yeah, because I'm sure you loved hearing that thrown at you when you were his age.

    Congrats on your weight loss Joe. Thats no easy feat. Your message and experience will not reach or apply to everyone, but I think you know that and I respect that you needed to get it across, even if it wasn't diplomatic.
  • kazaargrandcru
    kazaargrandcru Posts: 152 Member
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  • justsayinisall
    justsayinisall Posts: 162 Member
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    dessert vs desert? I always remember strawberry shortcake is a dessert. 2 "S's"

  • pppsmurf47
    pppsmurf47 Posts: 8 Member
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    I am 68 years had 2 total knee replacements and fell and broke one of them gained a lot of weight while I was down 1 1/2 yrs after looking at pic with great grandkid at 338lbs knew this would not pass started on mfp here and joined gym sept 11 to day weigh 238 90 lbs down if I can do it most any one can my diary is open fill free to look or friend good luck to all
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    joejward95 wrote: »
    Are you telling me, if you didn't eat for 2 weeks you would not lose a single lb? You understand that is literally defeating the laws of physics.
    Just curious, if you had to choose between being fat, or feeling like you are starving all day every day for the rest of your life, which do you think you would choose?
  • AmbyrJayde
    AmbyrJayde Posts: 257 Member
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    LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
    joejward95 wrote: »
    Are you telling me, if you didn't eat for 2 weeks you would not lose a single lb? You understand that is literally defeating the laws of physics.
    Just curious, if you had to choose between being fat, or feeling like you are starving all day every day for the rest of your life, which do you think you would choose?

    That is not how this works, that's not how any of this works. There are not only two options starving or gluttony. There is a middle ground.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    AmandaHugginkiss wrote: »
    Writing a rant like this is wasted energy.
    I wouldn't call it a waste. Many of us have found it entertaining for the nostalgia factor alone.
  • Lois_1989
    Lois_1989 Posts: 6,406 Member
    edited March 2015
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    mskinner1091 wrote: »

    THANK YOU! My grammar nazi is nearly uncontrollable when I see the misuse of these two words. [/quote]

    I know! I'm terrible for it! I get dessert and desert mixed up as well. It all went downhill after leaving school I'm afraid... Sorry :weary: [/quote]

    The way to remember the difference between desert & dessert:

    I could always go for 2 helpings of dessert. There are 2 'S's in the word. Lol, works for me :wink:
    [/quote]

    Oh god that is genius! I'll never forget again! mmmmm dessert...
  • Mark_on_a_Mission
    Mark_on_a_Mission Posts: 48 Member
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    Just seen this - and I must admit, I pretty much agree with OP, however the reaction is as interesting as the post itself. I find in life it is always easier to tell people what they want to hear, whether it is about weight loss, work, personal life - pretty much anything.

    For example, if someone says "I've had a bad day at work, so I ate a box of donuts", the easiest thing to say is A. "I dont blame you, I woudlnt worry about it, you can always start again tomorrow". But the more helpful thing to say is B. "sorry you had a bad day, but the donuts wont help, and you will probably feel worse after you've eaten them".

    Which one would be easier? A. Which one would be more helpful? B.

    Just my thoughts :)

  • Wiseandcurious
    Wiseandcurious Posts: 730 Member
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    sullus wrote: »
    shamcd wrote: »
    sullus wrote: »
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    justsayinisall wrote: »
    give me one of those cookies! and for the love of God people:

    Loose

    Loose is an adjective, the opposite of tight or contained.

    My shoes are loose

    I have a loose tooth

    There’s a dog running loose in the street


    Lose

    Lose is a verb that means to suffer the loss of, to miss.

    I win! You lose!

    Don’t lose your keys

    I never lose bets



    THANK YOU! My grammar nazi is nearly uncontrollable when I see the misuse of these two words.

    My inner usage nazi gets out of control when people call usage errors grammar errors.

    "In linguistics, grammar is the set of structural rules governing the composition of clauses, phrases, and words in any given natural language. The term refers also to the study of such rules, and this field includes morphology, syntax, and phonology, often complemented by phonetics, semantics, and pragmatics."

    Right. So lose v loose is usage, not grammar. Thank you.

    Excuse the naive foreigner both of you, but isn't is simply, umm, spelling? At least I suspect for most people that's what's really happening, I doubt they would actually pronounce "loose" and "lose" the same.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    AmbyrJayde wrote: »
    LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
    joejward95 wrote: »
    Are you telling me, if you didn't eat for 2 weeks you would not lose a single lb? You understand that is literally defeating the laws of physics.
    Just curious, if you had to choose between being fat, or feeling like you are starving all day every day for the rest of your life, which do you think you would choose?

    That is not how this works, that's not how any of this works. There are not only two options starving or gluttony. There is a middle ground.
    There is for almost everyone, and I have spent a lot of energy advocating just that on these very forums for over two years.
  • libby328
    libby328 Posts: 287 Member
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    herrspoons wrote: »
    I mean, dear god. Do most of you think that having 20 or 30 years more 'life experience' makes you any more qualified to give advice? All it means is that you've made consistently bad choices for 20 or 30 more years. That's why you're here in the first place.

    You can cry about the bluntness of the delivery. You can whine about your inability to keep your hand out of the cookie jar. You can spend hours looking for every medical ailment or fringe scientific study that gives you a reason as to why you're failing... and you still won't change the basic laws of physiology and energy conservation.

    I'm looking at the replies and seeing a sea of failure, and I'm finally understanding why we have an obesity problem and why most people put the weight back on.


    Seriously, everything you say is 100% spot on (in my humble opinion). Dude is saying enough with the excuses... the end. I have this same fight with people who think they can diet for a week and when they don't lose 30lbs They then eat a pizza and package of girl scout cookies and cry because they just cant understand why they aren't losing weight. Baffles the brain!
  • Lois_1989
    Lois_1989 Posts: 6,406 Member
    edited March 2015
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    justsayinisall wrote: »
    dessert vs desert? I always remember strawberry shortcake is a dessert. 2 "S's"

    Again brilliant! Wow, I've learnt so many things today from this thread. :smile: And I've managed to waste half a day at work just keeping up with it.
  • anarchysbitch
    anarchysbitch Posts: 64 Member
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    Far out, too many PC police on MFP.
  • EvanKeel
    EvanKeel Posts: 1,904 Member
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    markjbevan wrote: »
    Just seen this - and I must admit, I pretty much agree with OP, however the reaction is as interesting as the post itself. I find in life it is always easier to tell people what they want to hear, whether it is about weight loss, work, personal life - pretty much anything.

    For example, if someone says "I've had a bad day at work, so I ate a box of donuts", the easiest thing to say is A. "I dont blame you, I woudlnt worry about it, you can always start again tomorrow". But the more helpful thing to say is B. "sorry you had a bad day, but the donuts wont help, and you will probably feel worse after you've eaten them".

    Which one would be easier? A. Which one would be more helpful? B.

    Just my thoughts :)

    There is the third option of just saying nothing at all unless asked.
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,302 Member
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    adamworton wrote: »
    This escalated quite quickly.

    Anyone else for a smoothie?

    There's a joke about not feeding the trolls in here somewhere but i just can't see it...


    If you feed a troll a cookie. . . .
  • redheaddee
    redheaddee Posts: 2,005 Member
    edited March 2015
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    Oh *kitten* OP. Honesty. I bet you get banned soon. FR OTW.
  • TheVirgoddess
    TheVirgoddess Posts: 4,535 Member
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    AmbyrJayde wrote: »
    It's CI vs CO. It is that simple.

    Last year I stopped watching it quite as well as I should have. I ended up gaining 40ish pounds back. I decided it must be some type of problem, condition, something outside of my control, and obviously not the extra food I was shoving down my throat. Finally in November of last year I broke thru all of that fat logic. My foot suddenly swelled up really badly and I thought I was legitimately dying, of a heart problem. I immediately started weighing and measuring and actively counting again. I also started really looking at my exercise and coming to terms with the fact that no, I did not burn 1k calories walking for an hour at 2.5mph and that I should not be eating all of that back. And look at that my 40lb weight gain over last year is almost all gone.

    If you are honest about your calories in vs calories out you will lose the weight. If it's not working for you, check and make sure you're really eating the portions you write down. Make sure that you are really burning the calories you say you are.

    Accountability and motivation are great. I honestly don't think I would go quite as hard if I didn't know that someone would see my exercise entries, or that nice note "Finished her diary and was /under/ her calories." But I thrive on competition, and comparing myself to other people.

    Good job on the weight loss OP!

    Last note: OP being 19 has absolutely nothing to do with the things he posted, it's just an ad hominem attack from people who can't find anything else wrong with the post, or don't want to think about what they are doing wrong. Weight loss is incredibly simple, even if not easy. It's just math.

    Simple does not equal easy though.

    CICO is how we lose weight, period. But finding the way to apply it to your life sustainably is not always easy. And that's where the issues/questions and threads come in.

    It's lack of education 90% of the time. There are a ridiculous amount of fitness/weight loss/health related myths out there and it can be really hard for people to wade through them to find the truth and then learn how to apply that truth to their lives long term.

    I've lost 72 pounds, while dealing with multiple health issues. So I get it - I know how hard it can feel. But I also know that it's doable.

    So yeah, excuses are lame and frustrating. And I don't have patience for them. I just don't think the majority of threads on here *are* excuse filled (and when they are, I just move on, realizing that excuses are generally a sign of lack of commitment). I think they are ignorance. And people shouldn't be shamed for being ignorant. Mostly.
  • AmbyrJayde
    AmbyrJayde Posts: 257 Member
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    LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
    AmbyrJayde wrote: »
    LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
    joejward95 wrote: »
    Are you telling me, if you didn't eat for 2 weeks you would not lose a single lb? You understand that is literally defeating the laws of physics.
    Just curious, if you had to choose between being fat, or feeling like you are starving all day every day for the rest of your life, which do you think you would choose?

    That is not how this works, that's not how any of this works. There are not only two options starving or gluttony. There is a middle ground.
    There is for almost everyone, and I have spent a lot of energy advocating just that on these very forums for over two years.

    In regards to starving vs gluttony there literally is a middle ground for everyone.

    In regards to eating the things you want, probably not so much. I don't allow chips or snack cakes or cookies etc, in my house any more even though I love them because I know my limits and I know that I personally can not handle them in the house because I will over eat them. not everyone has to do that. They can manage their middle ground in regards to snacks w/out harsh restrictions. I can't, and I admit that I'm an addict and I keep my drug of choice far away. Now, if I'm out and about and have worked out that day and have the urge for a snack cake or a soda I will buy one, and enjoy it. Because It doesn't happen often. But I always faithfully log it because not logging it doesn't mean the calories didn't go in :P (That's a poke at myself not you.)

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