what is a food you have cut from your diet with some success?

auddii wrote: »

Ninkyou wrote: »

Cauliflower.

Seriously, I refuse to eat it.

I felt this way until I had it deep fried at a Mediterranean restaurant (well, not battered, just cooked in a lot of oil until crispy) . It actually tasted good.

LIES!! Don't try to rustle my jimmies and coax me to the Cauliflower side!

Haha. Cauliflower is one of those foods that tastes like whatever you cook it in. Which I don't have a problem with. It's the texture. It's just.... wrong.

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

There's no reason to cut out any food unless:

• you have a medical reason
• you don't like it
• it makes you feel sick

Otherwise eat all the foods.

I think

• you want to

should also make that list.

But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.

Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.

It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.

I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.

And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?

I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population

Based on what? What general population data do have to back this up?

Uh… Maybe the people here on MFP who have been brainwashed into thinking they have to give up chips, cookies, cake, muffins, ice cream, etc. to lose weight.

But see, this sounds like an assumption on your part. You seem to think everyone that eliminates a food does it because they think they have to. That is not true.

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

There's no reason to cut out any food unless:

• you have a medical reason
• you don't like it
• it makes you feel sick

Otherwise eat all the foods.

I think

• you want to

should also make that list.

But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.

Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.

It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.

I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.

And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?

I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population

You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....

Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves

Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.

ndj1979 wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

ndj1979 wrote: »

I eat everything and make sure that I hit my calorie/micro/macro targets for the day ...life is easier when you don't view food as bad/evil/etc

Easy is subjective. I think I would find losing weight easier if I could view some food as evil. I want to avoid evil. Viewing it as wonderfully delicious makes it hard.

why would any food be "evil"....it is just something that fuels your body

If food were just something that fueled our bodies, why would anyone be overweight? Food is more than just fuel, whether it should be or not.

because they eat too much of it...

If food were really "evil" and caused weight gain on its own, then you get obese by eating in a deficit..

I can't believe you are even trying to make THAT argument...talk about ridiculousness...

Sorry, I'm not following. I never suggested that evil makes us obese or that food was evil.

My point was if food was nothing but fuel, then people wouldn't overeat. But food is more than just fuel. It's pleasure. It's how we celebrate and show love.

moving the goalposts, I see.

People overeat because they choose to...

are you really saying that food is programming people to over eat?

Hmm, let me reread. Nope, I don't see where I said or suggested anything close to that.

so celebration with food leads to overeating, which leads to obesity then? That would be one hell of a celebration.

one hell of a celebration ... is that why you keep going back to "evil"?

that is your claim, not mine.

Nope. I said I might find losing easier if it were evil.

so viewing it as evil does not equal claiming it is evil?

"would be" "if it were"

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

There's no reason to cut out any food unless:

• you have a medical reason
• you don't like it
• it makes you feel sick

Otherwise eat all the foods.

I think

• you want to

should also make that list.

But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.

Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.

It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.

I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.

And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?

I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population

You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....

Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves

Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.

I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…

The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.

So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

There's no reason to cut out any food unless:

• you have a medical reason
• you don't like it
• it makes you feel sick

Otherwise eat all the foods.

I think

• you want to

should also make that list.

But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.

Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.

It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.

I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.

And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?

I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population

You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....

Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves

Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.

I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…

The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.

So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.

Then I'm not sure why you are so sure that the majority of the population can't cut out certain foods without binging on them. Several people on this thread have stated the opposite, and I see many stating the opposite every time this type of topic comes up.

I also see many, many, many threads where people say they can't help eating the entire pizza, or half a jar of peanut butter, or the entire pint of ice cream. So obviously "moderation" is something many people struggle with. I'm not sure what forum you are reading if you think otherwise.

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

There's no reason to cut out any food unless:

• you have a medical reason
• you don't like it
• it makes you feel sick

Otherwise eat all the foods.

I think

• you want to

should also make that list.

But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.

Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.

It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.

I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.

And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?

I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population

You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....

Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves

Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.

I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…

I do.

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

There's no reason to cut out any food unless:

• you have a medical reason
• you don't like it
• it makes you feel sick

Otherwise eat all the foods.

I think

• you want to

should also make that list.

But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.

Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.

It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.

I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.

And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?

I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population

You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....

Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves

Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.

I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…

The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.

So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.

Then I'm not sure why you are so sure that the majority of the population can't cut out certain foods without binging on them. Several people on this thread have stated the opposite, and I see many stating the opposite every time this type of topic comes up.

I also see many, many, many threads where people say they can't help eating the entire pizza, or half a jar of peanut butter, or the entire pint of ice cream. So obviously "moderation" is something many people struggle with. I'm not sure what forum you are reading if you think otherwise.

And once again you are completely forgetting about all the people on MFP who post threads about the time when they cut out certain foods and consequently, end up binging.

Funny how you seem to ignore those people.

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

There's no reason to cut out any food unless:

• you have a medical reason
• you don't like it
• it makes you feel sick

Otherwise eat all the foods.

I think

• you want to

should also make that list.

But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.

Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.

It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.

I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.

And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?

I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population

You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....

Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves

Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.

I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…

I do.

Great for you. Do you want a cookie?

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

There's no reason to cut out any food unless:

• you have a medical reason
• you don't like it
• it makes you feel sick

Otherwise eat all the foods.

I think

• you want to

should also make that list.

But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.

Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.

It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.

I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.

And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?

I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population

You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....

Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves

Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.

I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…

The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.

So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.

Then I'm not sure why you are so sure that the majority of the population can't cut out certain foods without binging on them. Several people on this thread have stated the opposite, and I see many stating the opposite every time this type of topic comes up.

I also see many, many, many threads where people say they can't help eating the entire pizza, or half a jar of peanut butter, or the entire pint of ice cream. So obviously "moderation" is something many people struggle with. I'm not sure what forum you are reading if you think otherwise.

And once again you are completely forgetting about all the people on MFP who post threads about the time when they cut out certain foods and consequently, end up binging.

Funny how you seem to ignore those people.

Unlike you I haven't forgotten about anybody. I clearly stated that "some people" certainly do tend to binge when they eliminated foods. I also said that "many" don't. You, on the other hand, seem to think the "majority" can't eliminate foods without binging on them...even though you yourself have no such experience.

Please comment on what I actually wrote, not on what you want to see.

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

There's no reason to cut out any food unless:

• you have a medical reason
• you don't like it
• it makes you feel sick

Otherwise eat all the foods.

I think

• you want to

should also make that list.

But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.

Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.

It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.

I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.

And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?

I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population

You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....

Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves

Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.

I don't cut out any foods I don't need to…

The only foods I HAVE to cut out are ones that cause my Crohn's to flare up. Meaning I don't eat them, ever. Therefore, there's no way for me to binge on them.

So your "suggestion" gets flushed down the toilet because it's wrong.

Then I'm not sure why you are so sure that the majority of the population can't cut out certain foods without binging on them. Several people on this thread have stated the opposite, and I see many stating the opposite every time this type of topic comes up.

I also see many, many, many threads where people say they can't help eating the entire pizza, or half a jar of peanut butter, or the entire pint of ice cream. So obviously "moderation" is something many people struggle with. I'm not sure what forum you are reading if you think otherwise.

And once again you are completely forgetting about all the people on MFP who post threads about the time when they cut out certain foods and consequently, end up binging.

Funny how you seem to ignore those people.

Unlike you I haven't forgotten about anybody. I clearly stated that "some people" certainly do tend to binge when they eliminated foods. I also said that "many" don't. You, on the other hand, seem to think "most people" can't eliminate foods without binging on them...even though you yourself have no such experience.

Please comment on what I actually wrote, not on what you want to see.

Good Lord, lady…

MOST doesn't mean ALL.

Therefore, yes, there are some people who can cut out certain foods without binging.

I don't need to experience it myself. I see what hundreds of people on MFP say when they cut out certain foods. I also have friends and family members who have gone on diets that require cutting out certain foods. They failed miserably. Those are the people I am referring to.

Most doesn't mean all. Just like some doesn't mean most.

asflatasapancake wrote: »

I had to cut frozen fish sticks out of my diet. Just because I've never had any that tasted good at all. They're all just awful.

I was just thinking about those, as they were one thing we ate for dinner when my parents went out when I was a kid and left us with a babysitter. (Our other option was a TV dinner, so I was thinking of them in connection with the microwave dinner thread.) Anyway, as I kid I considered them a treat. I think I cut them out around age 13 on the basis that they were for kids, and haven't eaten them since, but my memories associated with them are all positive, even though we had fresh fish cooked well all the time (lived in Alaska for a time, so it was available).

Kind of funny.

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

MoiAussi93 wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

Need2Exerc1se wrote: »

FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »

There's no reason to cut out any food unless:

• you have a medical reason
• you don't like it
• it makes you feel sick

Otherwise eat all the foods.

I think

• you want to

should also make that list.

But a person shouldn't have to deprive themselves of food they enjoy when dieting. Dieting is hard enough.

Most of the time, when a person cuts out certain foods, they end up binging on the food when they get their hands on it… like at a birthday party, wedding, etc.

It's better and more practical to learn to eat in moderation and use portion control.

I find eating very small amounts of certain food MUCH harder than just eating none at all. Not eating certain foods may make dieting harder for you, but it makes it much easier for me.

And I do not binge on any of the foods I have eliminated. I DID binge on them when I tried to eat them in moderation. We're all different...see how that works?

I wasn't talking about myself. I was talking about the general population

You speak for the general population? Funny, I don't remember voting for you to represent me. Hmmm....

Perhaps if you spent some time reading through the forums, you would see that a majority of people who cut out certain foods, end up binging. They say it for themselves

Actually when I read through the forums I see MANY people say that they personally end up binging when they try to eat certain foods in moderation. There have been many on just this thread alone that said exactly that!!!! I dispute your claim that the majority binge when they cut out foods. Some certainly do, and the fact that you feel so strongly about this suggests that you do as well. But many of us don't. If you don't have it available, you can't binge on it. That's the reality.

I don't binge (not if I cut out foods and not if I eat them in moderation). I have been known to plan to eat something in moderation and overeat, and I have been known to obsess more about a food because I decided I wouldn't eat it than if I simply placed it on the back burner (i.e., I'll eat it on special occasions when I have the calories). On the whole the latter strategy works better for me, and following it there are lots of foods that I haven't cut out but almost never eat. I'm not sure why officially cutting stuff out permanently would work better, but as you said people are different, so I'm not denying that it might, for some. (I would deny that it's healthier or better in general, of course.)

In any case, what I question is that cutting something out makes it not available. Stopping overeating at home was something that was easy for me, since at home was a place where I wasted too many calories on meals, but I never have really kept snacky stuff at home (I do more now than when I was gaining weight, in fact, since I have ice cream on hand now, and protein bars, and yogurt and dried fruit and nuts). Where I snacked before starting this was at work, at parties/get togethers, or, on occasion, after an impulse buy at the store. I still have those precise temptations, so if I simply relied on lack of access I'd be in big trouble. If I were a binger, binging would be easy enough.