Bread
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galgenstrick wrote: »Is she having you count calories? If she's not, then I think I understand where she's coming from. If you reduce or remove a lot of the high calorie foods that aren't satiating, then you'll be left with more high volume low calorie foods. So by eating only those, you'll feel satiated and be in a deficit. Thus you'll lose weight.
The other way to do it is to count your calories, and eat the things you like.
I'm in a way doing both. I'm using this to log everything so I know. But I just wanna see if I feel better over all to limit or cut certain things out.. It can't hurt to try something new:)
Yup. Sounds good to me. If it's working for you and sustainable then give it a try.0 -
Oats are gluten-free. There is potential for cross-contamination, which is why Celiacs are advised to look for oats processed in a GF certified facility.TimothyFish wrote: »Bread is a refined sugar which isn't natural... Your body actually goes threw withdrew when you cut out sugar and bread
Bread is not a refined sugar. Bread is made from wheat and is as natural as anything you can eat.
As for eliminating gluten, you would have to eliminate most grain from your diet. Even stuff like oats has gluten in it. Personally, I would get tired of eating rice all the time.
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SergeantSausage wrote: »Fire your (so called) "trainer".
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Carbs turn into sugar..0
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Nope she said to limit and be careful how much fruit im eating too and try substitute with vegetables instead. YeS she said try cut out all the un needed calories.. I didn't ask for anyone's arrogance.. She gets paid to make people healthy in a gym if she was all wrong she wouldn't be working there.
The only unneeded calories are those that do not enable you to achieve a calorie deficit. Do you even know what your (estimated) maintenance calorie needs are, and do you even know waht your weekly deficit goal is?
If you maintain on 3000 calories, cutting out gluten and only eating 3 pieces of fruit a day while still consuming 3000 calories won't magically make you lose weight. You'd lose weight eating 2000 calories of lollipops every day. Sugar won't stop you from losing weight, and your trainer is terribly misinformed. Unless she has an amazing physique and is teaching you to perform primary compound lifts with some potential added accessory isolation lifts for any areas that need extra attention, she should be fired. And even if she fits this criteria, she should not be turned to for nutritional guidance because she's demonstrated that she knows nothing about the true mechanics of weight loss.
She gets paid to teach people how to work out. She is not paid to make people healthier, simply to help them work out. IF working out makes them healthier then that is based on the fact that they are working out, not on her asinine dietary advice.0 -
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Ok thanks everyone for your input have a good night!0
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I think it's fine to have whole grain bread! I have 2 eggs on a slice of whole wheat toast for breakfast and it gets me through to lunch, even with a good hour + workout.CandlesAndRain wrote: »I have lost 25 lbs with eating bread but in very, very moderate amounts. I've been trying to lose the weight for three years and in the times I cut out bread, I only ended up craving it and binging on it later. Give yourself a certain amount of bread you're allowed to eat each week/day and stick to it. Instead of white bread, buy wheat. Bread isn't horrible and if it is eaten in moderation it's fine.
That's kinda what I thought. Yeah it's kinda a kick in the teeth that I'm craving it but I wanna try cut alit of it out. I only ever ate it in the morning tho. And it's only whole grain breads I hate white bread lol
As long as you're in a deficit you will lose.
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Refined white bread is usually what people like that are talking about just because it doesn't have any fiber or anything and gets broken down into sugar more quickly than whole grain breads. Same with white rice vs brown rice. I agree that where your trainer is most likely coming from is cut out high calorie, low volume foods in order to eat more low calorie, high volume foods so you aren't hungry as much but still have a calorie deficit.
As for arsenic in rice, it really depends on where that rice is grown...0 -
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Just eat stone ground whole wheat bread and stay away from the white, bleached, enriched and refined variety.0
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lishie_rebooted wrote: »
And fish, and oil, and butter/marge, and uh... uh.... turkey! Oh man, does Metamucil have carbs?0 -
I agree with your trainer. Cutting back on bread and other carbohydrates can help a lot with controlling blood sugar and with weight loss. The others on this thread are correct in saying that it needs to be done along with other steps, but bread and highly refined carbohydrates is a great place to cut back. Wheat may be a natural product, but white flour is a highly processed form of bread in which many of its best and most nutritious elements have been lost. Check out Michael Pollan's wonderful book, Cooked, and read the first third chapter on the history of how bread has been made.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooked-Natural-Transformation-Michael-Pollan/dp/0143125338/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426902132&sr=8-1&keywords=pollan+cooked
Bread in itself isn't bad, but the way it is made and consumed in our society has helped contribute a lot to our obesity problems today.0 -
Rule #1: Never, ever take nutrition advice from a trainer.
It's not their area of expertise. If you want nutrition advice, see a registered dietitian.0 -
I agree with your trainer. Cutting back on bread and other carbohydrates can help a lot with controlling blood sugar and with weight loss. The others on this thread are correct in saying that it needs to be done along with other steps, but bread and highly refined carbohydrates is a great place to cut back. Wheat may be a natural product, but white flour is a highly processed form of bread in which many of its best and most nutritious elements have been lost. Check out Michael Pollan's wonderful book, Cooked, and read the first third chapter on the history of how bread has been made.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooked-Natural-Transformation-Michael-Pollan/dp/0143125338/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426902132&sr=8-1&keywords=pollan+cooked
Bread in itself isn't bad, but the way it is made and consumed in our society has helped contribute a lot to our obesity problems today.
Not everyone has issues controlling blood sugar… Usually only those with diabetes, insulin resistance, and hypoglycemia do.0 -
From what I've read you should really stay away from gluten free foods unless you have to... Because they add or subtract other nutrients. Normal bread is healthier. Jeez I'm not being a great help, it's just something I vaguely remember reading about.
I very rarely eat bread, but when I do its rye sourdough.
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I agree with your trainer. Cutting back on bread and other carbohydrates can help a lot with controlling blood sugar and with weight loss. The others on this thread are correct in saying that it needs to be done along with other steps, but bread and highly refined carbohydrates is a great place to cut back. Wheat may be a natural product, but white flour is a highly processed form of bread in which many of its best and most nutritious elements have been lost. Check out Michael Pollan's wonderful book, Cooked, and read the first third chapter on the history of how bread has been made.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooked-Natural-Transformation-Michael-Pollan/dp/0143125338/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426902132&sr=8-1&keywords=pollan+cooked
Bread in itself isn't bad, but the way it is made and consumed in our society has helped contribute a lot to our obesity problems today.
No... excess caloric intake from excessively large portions plus excessive(ly large portions of) high calorie, low volume food PLUS lack of exercise = fat Earth. Not bread.0 -
Cutting carbs can be helpful to reach a deficit, but it's not necessary to lose weight.
Do your own research (peer reviewed scientific studies, not blog or scare sites) with an open mind and decide what you want to do, and make sure it's something you can sustain long term. Here's a good place to start: http://www.nih.gov/
Don't blindly listen to your trainer. Or us
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But what about whole wheat bread? That's not a quick jolt of super refined carbs any more. Your body takes longer to break it down, meaning longer satiety and leveler blood sugar. I switched to whole wheat personally and am having good results. I mean.... you can give up bread if you like but it seems kind of drastic!0
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I've cut out bread in my diet and within 2 days noticed my stomach had shrunk a whole inch. (Yes I measured it). I think mainly due to bloating. If I do have bread now, like occasionally at BBQ's I immediately notice discomfort and bloating.
I say give it a try for at least a week. At first it seems impossible, but if it starts having a positive effect on you , you won't look back.
If it does nothing, you can go back to eating bread.0 -
I get paid to paid to work in a gym and don't believe it's necessary to do the things she said. Does my opinion negate hers since we are both paid trainers?Nope she said to limit and be careful how much fruit im eating too and try substitute with vegetables instead. YeS she said try cut out all the un needed calories.. I didn't ask for anyone's arrogance.. She gets paid to make people healthy in a gym if she was all wrong she wouldn't be working there.Carbs turn into sugar..
Do fruits and vegetables turn into sugar?
Quoting for those on mobile.
Also my ex was a trainer at a gym. Without a certification in personal training. So just another reason not to take nutrition advise from a trainer
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lishie_rebooted wrote: »
I get paid to paid to work in a gym and don't believe it's necessary to do the things she said. Does my opinion negate hers since we are both paid trainers?Nope she said to limit and be careful how much fruit im eating too and try substitute with vegetables instead. YeS she said try cut out all the un needed calories.. I didn't ask for anyone's arrogance.. She gets paid to make people healthy in a gym if she was all wrong she wouldn't be working there.Carbs turn into sugar..
Do fruits and vegetables turn into sugar?
Quoting for those on mobile.
Also my ex was a trainer at a gym. Without a certification in personal training. So just another reason not to take nutrition advise from a trainer
I flip over to desktop view on my phone to see posts from people in jail
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christinev297 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »
I get paid to paid to work in a gym and don't believe it's necessary to do the things she said. Does my opinion negate hers since we are both paid trainers?Nope she said to limit and be careful how much fruit im eating too and try substitute with vegetables instead. YeS she said try cut out all the un needed calories.. I didn't ask for anyone's arrogance.. She gets paid to make people healthy in a gym if she was all wrong she wouldn't be working there.Carbs turn into sugar..
Do fruits and vegetables turn into sugar?
Quoting for those on mobile.
Also my ex was a trainer at a gym. Without a certification in personal training. So just another reason not to take nutrition advise from a trainer
I flip over to desktop view on my phone to see posts from people in jail
Oh, great tip. Thank you.
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christinev297 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »
I get paid to paid to work in a gym and don't believe it's necessary to do the things she said. Does my opinion negate hers since we are both paid trainers?Nope she said to limit and be careful how much fruit im eating too and try substitute with vegetables instead. YeS she said try cut out all the un needed calories.. I didn't ask for anyone's arrogance.. She gets paid to make people healthy in a gym if she was all wrong she wouldn't be working there.Carbs turn into sugar..
Do fruits and vegetables turn into sugar?
Quoting for those on mobile.
Also my ex was a trainer at a gym. Without a certification in personal training. So just another reason not to take nutrition advise from a trainer
I flip over to desktop view on my phone to see posts from people in jail
Yeah so do I since MFP wont fix the bug.0 -
lishie_rebooted wrote: »christinev297 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »
I get paid to paid to work in a gym and don't believe it's necessary to do the things she said. Does my opinion negate hers since we are both paid trainers?Nope she said to limit and be careful how much fruit im eating too and try substitute with vegetables instead. YeS she said try cut out all the un needed calories.. I didn't ask for anyone's arrogance.. She gets paid to make people healthy in a gym if she was all wrong she wouldn't be working there.Carbs turn into sugar..
Do fruits and vegetables turn into sugar?
Quoting for those on mobile.
Also my ex was a trainer at a gym. Without a certification in personal training. So just another reason not to take nutrition advise from a trainer
I flip over to desktop view on my phone to see posts from people in jail
Yeah so do I since MFP wont fix the bug.
It's incredibly annoying. And I still don't see the point in advertising someones "naughtiness" by putting bars over their avatar???
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christinev297 wrote: »lishie_rebooted wrote: »
I get paid to paid to work in a gym and don't believe it's necessary to do the things she said. Does my opinion negate hers since we are both paid trainers?Nope she said to limit and be careful how much fruit im eating too and try substitute with vegetables instead. YeS she said try cut out all the un needed calories.. I didn't ask for anyone's arrogance.. She gets paid to make people healthy in a gym if she was all wrong she wouldn't be working there.Carbs turn into sugar..
Do fruits and vegetables turn into sugar?
Quoting for those on mobile.
Also my ex was a trainer at a gym. Without a certification in personal training. So just another reason not to take nutrition advise from a trainer
I flip over to desktop view on my phone to see posts from people in jail
Anyone know why they are only hidden on the app? WHY would they do that
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