Documentary Fed up

TimothyFish wrote: »

The real problem with added sugar is that it increases the calorie density of food while the visual and fullness clues indicate that people have eaten less than they have. But we can't blame it all on the food industry.

Yes. This.

laropmet wrote: »

TimothyFish wrote: »

And many children are obese because their parents are a bad example.

I think this is what everyone means when they talk about genetics making them fat. For years I went around saying my whole family is fat, they are all diabetic and prone to heart disease why fight the inevitable. It's completely true....except for the one relative who has been the exact same size since high school. Is he the genetic anomaly, or (more likely), is he the one who doesn't eat like junk food is on sale. He doesn't have a particularly healthy diet, he eats a lot of pastry based food. But he does eat it in much smaller amounts than i do.

There is a genetic component to the problem, but most of us can overcome our genetics, if we really want to. What I find interesting is that children are becoming obese sooner. In some families, the typical thing used to be that the children were thin, but when they reached adulthood, they developed obesity. Now, those same families have children who are obese. I don't think our genetics have changed that quickly. Often, the similarities in families is due to a similar attitude toward diet and exercise. That may be due to genetics, but it can also be a learned behavior.

"Sugar calories promote fat storage and hunger. Fat calories induce fullness or satiation,"

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150422221410.htm

There was a lot of truth in the facts, but not in how it was presented, and it was pretty clear that they were so dead set on attacking the food industry and their lobbyists that they blatantly misdirected and cherry-picked information to support their message. Yeah, eating a diet high in simple sugars can lead a 'skinny' person to have high visceral fat, which can cause 'obese' diseases, but total body fat IS as simple as CICO. Yes, simple sugars will cause stronger hunger signals much sooner, and added sugars add unnecessary calories, and the combination of the two leads many people to drastically overeating, but they are still just calories. The 'documentary' only briefly touched on the idea of not being able to out exercise a bad diet, and completely ignored how many calories the family on the 'sugar detox' were cutting, since it wouldn't support their message concerning CICO being a lie. I've seen more comprehensive and clear presentations on healthy diet choices made by 4th graders.

eric_sg61 wrote: »

Toblave wrote: »

"Sugar calories promote fat storage and hunger. Fat calories induce fullness or satiation,"

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150422221410.htm

<--Over 100 grams of sugar a day, not hungry and I pick the cookie crumbs out of my abz

Boom goes the dynamite.

My husband and I watched this documentary together a couple nights ago. We both walked away with a different impressions. He is now pretty convinced that sugar is "evil" and refused to even drink milk today because the label said 11 g of sugar. I did not get that impression from the program. My impression was that they were wanting people to stop and think about added sugar. I also did not come to the conclusion that all sugar turn to fat, instead what I understood it to be was that unused sugar would turn to fat. I don't know how true that is, but the thought of it makes me think before binging. I actually found a lot of interesting information, especially about children in the schools, being that I have two that eat public school lunches. I spoke with the kids later and did find that they are eating worse than I thought. So this did help open up discussion.

While the documentary might not have been completely accurate, I am glad that I watched it because it did help me to stop and think a little bit more about what's in the foods that I put in my mouth. I got fat quickly and the majority of my calories did in fact come from sugar as I was a soda
and candy junkie. I do like that they put great emphasis on eating foods that are whole and from nature. I do think that if we did that more often than not, our society as a whole would be much more healthy.

I haven't watched it yet but I'm interested in seeing it. I'm a big believer of food in moderation whether it's sweets or protein or whatever so I can't see myself buying into "sugar is the devil". I can eat a pint of ice cream and still lose weight, it's no big deal as long as I don't do it every night or even every other night LOL, but the devil there is calories not sugar. BUT, and this may be totally irrelevant since I haven't watched the "documentary" yet, I will say that American food has a lot of added sugar or is just overly sweet in general. Just look at what we use for daily bread. That stuff is sweet but it's perfectly normal to us unless you happen to live near an honest to god bakery.

Edited to add clarity.

DeguelloTex wrote: »

Liftng4Lis wrote: »

DeguelloTex wrote: »

I'm pretty sure there was sugar in the peach cobbler and homemade vanilla ice cream I just had. And in plenty of stuff I've eaten for the last year. Yet, I'm down about 105 pounds.

Did I hear peach cobbler??

Imagine the best crust you've ever had. Double that. Add some cinnamon sugar. Then add in some homegrown tree-ripened peaches preserved from last summer. Not as epic as fresh, maybe, but good enough to make anything on the shelves of a grocery store weep in shame.

Plus homemade ice cream with some Madagascar and some Mexican vanilla.

And it's not even summer yet.

omg, so yumm!!

I made pears poached in wine with vanilla marscapone the other day, I'll also still lose weight.

DeguelloTex wrote: »

Liftng4Lis wrote: »

DeguelloTex wrote: »

I'm pretty sure there was sugar in the peach cobbler and homemade vanilla ice cream I just had. And in plenty of stuff I've eaten for the last year. Yet, I'm down about 105 pounds.

Did I hear peach cobbler??

Imagine the best crust you've ever had. Double that. Add some cinnamon sugar. Then add in some homegrown tree-ripened peaches preserved from last summer. Not as epic as fresh, maybe, but good enough to make anything on the shelves of a grocery store weep in shame.

Plus homemade ice cream with some Madagascar and some Mexican vanilla.

And it's not even summer yet.

That sounds… so good…



Yeah, that’s all I got out of this.

wizzybeth wrote: »

I do not limit sugar. I do not limit fats. I do not limit carbs. I want to enjoy the foods I eat.

I do limit calories...

If you're limiting calories you're by definition limiting carbs and fats.