The joys of office broscience - misguided food/nutrition advice
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I also had a co-worker tell me a while back (before I started eating less) about the miracles of Gluten-free. Even handed me a book I had to read. He was CERTAIN that my problem was gluten (and not calories).0
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »@Alatariel75, I'm eating my cottage cheese with chopped veggies and sriracha right now.
OMG. I'm having a mouthgasm. Thank you for the idea.
Hmmm, I may have to pop down to the Asian grocery store (a mighty 3 min walk) for some sriracha!
I do a 50/50 mix of cottage cheese and avocado, with tabasco, lemon juice, garlic and sea salt. Om nom nom.
So out of nowhere recently I have gone off sriracha and on to tabasco. I used to pretty much gag from the vinegar and now I will just inhale it and sigh. Broscience that, people.
You were born on a cusp and your moon is in retrograde?
Ah, of course!!! Libra is my rising sign and my house of hot sauce has squared to Pegasus. Oh and my blood type is now AB-.
I actually do not remember my blood type at this time. Is that bad?0 -
jeffkennedymembermensaorg wrote: »I also had a co-worker tell me a while back (before I started eating less) about the miracles of Gluten-free. Even handed me a book I had to read. He was CERTAIN that my problem was gluten (and not calories).
Lol it's always gluten the problem, if you listen to some people...0 -
Leduc is perfectly acceptable.Angelfire365 wrote: »Chrysalid2014 wrote: »Lots of people eliminate carbs; that doesn't qualify as "broscience".
As my mother would say, "If your friends jumped off the High Level bridge, would you do it too?" Just because it's popular right now does not mean it's good science. Or even good. We have three macro-nutrients and many, many micro-nutrients. I won't find many people who would argue over the necessity of a micro-nutrient, say, Vitamin D. So why do people think that the answer to their diet woes is to eliminate an entire macro-nutrient?
Besides, chances are they'll get it wrong. They'll cut breads and pastas but keep eating yams and fruit. And wonder why their carb numbers are still so high.
When I was diabetic, a well-meaning bunkmate at a women's retreat brought me a big bag of "sugar free" candies. I took one look at the nutrition label and rejected them. First ingredient? Glucose. Her nose was seriously out of joint. Oh well. I wasn't going to flake out on a sugar high just so she wouldn't be offended in her ignorance.
Edmonton Proud!!! Well, Leduc proud, but close enough right?
What I'm more curious about is where is the line when you stop being associated with Edmonton and start being associated with Calgary. Where is that line? LOL
Red Deer. It's the point where you get to pick any flight you want since YYC and YEG are the same distance.
*snerk* I was going to say Red Deer. Do you think people who are from South Red Deer associate with Calgary, and North Red Deer associates with Edmonton?0 -
I had a very-overweight person tell me last week that I shouldn't be steaming my green beans because it kills all the nutrients in them, therefore making them "as bad as junk food".0
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Angelfire365 wrote: »
Leduc is perfectly acceptable.Angelfire365 wrote: »Chrysalid2014 wrote: »Lots of people eliminate carbs; that doesn't qualify as "broscience".
As my mother would say, "If your friends jumped off the High Level bridge, would you do it too?" Just because it's popular right now does not mean it's good science. Or even good. We have three macro-nutrients and many, many micro-nutrients. I won't find many people who would argue over the necessity of a micro-nutrient, say, Vitamin D. So why do people think that the answer to their diet woes is to eliminate an entire macro-nutrient?
Besides, chances are they'll get it wrong. They'll cut breads and pastas but keep eating yams and fruit. And wonder why their carb numbers are still so high.
When I was diabetic, a well-meaning bunkmate at a women's retreat brought me a big bag of "sugar free" candies. I took one look at the nutrition label and rejected them. First ingredient? Glucose. Her nose was seriously out of joint. Oh well. I wasn't going to flake out on a sugar high just so she wouldn't be offended in her ignorance.
Edmonton Proud!!! Well, Leduc proud, but close enough right?
What I'm more curious about is where is the line when you stop being associated with Edmonton and start being associated with Calgary. Where is that line? LOL
Red Deer. It's the point where you get to pick any flight you want since YYC and YEG are the same distance.
*snerk* I was going to say Red Deer. Do you think people who are from South Red Deer associate with Calgary, and North Red Deer associates with Edmonton?
LOL... I don't know. I lived south of the river when I lived there but still went up to Edmonton much more than to Calgary. That being said, I went to Kananaskis a lot, too.0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »@Alatariel75, I'm eating my cottage cheese with chopped veggies and sriracha right now.
OMG. I'm having a mouthgasm. Thank you for the idea.
Hmmm, I may have to pop down to the Asian grocery store (a mighty 3 min walk) for some sriracha!
I do a 50/50 mix of cottage cheese and avocado, with tabasco, lemon juice, garlic and sea salt. Om nom nom.
So out of nowhere recently I have gone off sriracha and on to tabasco. I used to pretty much gag from the vinegar and now I will just inhale it and sigh. Broscience that, people.
You were born on a cusp and your moon is in retrograde?
Ah, of course!!! Libra is my rising sign and my house of hot sauce has squared to Pegasus. Oh and my blood type is now AB-.
I actually do not remember my blood type at this time. Is that bad?
Only if you need a transfusion before you can look it up.0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »@Alatariel75, I'm eating my cottage cheese with chopped veggies and sriracha right now.
OMG. I'm having a mouthgasm. Thank you for the idea.
How awesome is it?! Glad to help
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »@Alatariel75, I'm eating my cottage cheese with chopped veggies and sriracha right now.
OMG. I'm having a mouthgasm. Thank you for the idea.
Hmmm, I may have to pop down to the Asian grocery store (a mighty 3 min walk) for some sriracha!
I do a 50/50 mix of cottage cheese and avocado, with tabasco, lemon juice, garlic and sea salt. Om nom nom.
So out of nowhere recently I have gone off sriracha and on to tabasco. I used to pretty much gag from the vinegar and now I will just inhale it and sigh. Broscience that, people.
All that vinegar is why I loathe tabasco. I hate vinegar, except in rare circumstances. Some balsamics are okay.
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I have a friend who is (or possibly just claims to be. I have my suspicions) gluten intolerant who will complain relentlessly about how bloated he is after a single bite of a croissant, but then he'll eat a whole box of sushi with no complaints (for those who don't know, sushi rice is also known glutenous rice. For a reason).
The same friend will complain in the same breath that he's too fat and that he doesn't eat enough.
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I have a friend who is (or possibly just claims to be. I have my suspicions) gluten intolerant who will complain relentlessly about how bloated he is after a single bite of a croissant, but then he'll eat a whole box of sushi with no complaints (for those who don't know, sushi rice is also known glutenous rice. For a reason).
The same friend will complain in the same breath that he's too fat and that he doesn't eat enough.
Next time you have sushi with him, wait til he's about 3 or 4 pieces in, and ask if he read about sushi place getting sued for not disclosing that glutenous rice contains gluten, and how ridiculous all these lawsuits are where people sue over basic common sense. See if he finishes his lunch.0 -
I have a friend who is (or possibly just claims to be. I have my suspicions) gluten intolerant who will complain relentlessly about how bloated he is after a single bite of a croissant, but then he'll eat a whole box of sushi with no complaints (for those who don't know, sushi rice is also known glutenous rice. For a reason).
The same friend will complain in the same breath that he's too fat and that he doesn't eat enough.
Glutinous rice doesn't have gluten in it. It means it's sticky and has to do with the starch content.
(I have celiac disease.)
Saying that? Why is he biting croissants if he has a gluten issue?
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There is now a ketchup with sriracha in it. I like the balsamic vinegar ketchup the best, but hubby loves the sriracha one!
They have health days with nurses and nutritionists that come around to our office every few months. I think it helps keep the broscience down to a dull murmur, at least. I'm now in the least brosciencey office I've ever worked in. We mostly have people of 2 kinds: those who care about fitness and weight, and work out and know their calorie counts, and those who don't care, and eat in ways that keeps them large. I honestly don't think I've heard "cleanse" in the entire nearly 12 years I have worked there.0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »
Glutinous rice doesn't have gluten in it. It means it's sticky and has to do with the starch content.
(I have celiac disease.)
Saying that? Why is he biting croissants if he has a gluten issue?
Wow! I'm really glad I posted this! Thanks for the education on that!
Personally I don't think he is gluten intolerant. He started claiming gluten intolerance only because he said he was having trouble losing weight (no idea where he heard that either ). That was quite literally the only reason, so I tend to think he's just looking for an excuse for being fat than actually dealing with eating/drinking issues.0 -
mamapeach910 wrote: »
Glutinous rice doesn't have gluten in it. It means it's sticky and has to do with the starch content.
(I have celiac disease.)
Saying that? Why is he biting croissants if he has a gluten issue?
Wow! I'm really glad I posted this! Thanks for the education on that!
Personally I don't think he is gluten intolerant. He started claiming gluten intolerance only because he said he was having trouble losing weight (no idea where he heard that either ). That was quite literally the only reason, so I tend to think he's just looking for an excuse for being fat than actually dealing with eating/drinking issues.
Well... the rice may be gluten free but, I should have expounded on my answer. Sushi isn't necessarily. The vinegar often has gluten in it. Fake crab? Gluten. The sesame seeds used are often mixed with wheat to keep them separate. And let's not even begin to talk about cross-contamination issues from tempura crumbs and soy sauce.
So, yeah, the rice is okay, but everything else? Um, if he has a true gluten issue, he should avoid sushi unless the restaurant often caters to a gluten-free clientele and knows what it's doing.
I've eaten sushi and had no issue, and have eaten sushi and been glutened. It's a minefield.
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I've been so entertained by this thread. This might have nothing to do with it but I thought it was a funny coincidence . At dictionary.com the word of the day is:
piffle
noun
1.nonsense, as trivial or senseless talk.
verb (used without object), piffled, piffling.
2.to talk nonsense.0 -
westcoastgrl21 wrote: »I had a very-overweight person tell me last week that I shouldn't be steaming my green beans because it kills all the nutrients in them, therefore making them "as bad as junk food".
The think flaws, they burn! Owwww.
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A lady I know won't buy any more fresh farm eggs from us because most of them are double yolkers. Double yolkers are bad because they have double the cholesterol and so they are bad eggs. She had to throw away half of the eggs last time. Seriously....that's what she told me.0
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AngInCanada wrote: »A lady I know won't buy any more fresh farm eggs from us because most of them are double yolkers. Double yolkers are bad because they have double the cholesterol and so they are bad eggs. She had to throw away half of the eggs last time. Seriously....that's what she told me.
*facepalm* I always get super excited when I get a double yolker.0 -
Oh! Oh! I have stories for you!
Firstly, a really good friend of mine has subscribed to the primal diet. Fine, whatever works for you, right? But, he tries to tell me that grains will slowly kill me, sugar is toxic and is automatically turned to fat because your body can't put out enough insulin, quotes marksdailyapple at me all the time, and has argued that a calorie isn't a calorie, and that sugar from fruit and sugar from table sugar is different. Quiet the fun head ache with him.
I have a second coworker who just joined the gym and told me she wants to "tone up". I asked her to clarify and she said tighten skin and "tone" everything, and that she wanted to spot reduce fat. I told her she wanted to build muscle to achieve a toned look, and she told me that she didn't want muscle, but to tone, and that lifting would make her look like a dude.
A third story for y'all isn't exactly nutrition, but it does have to do with food. I used to have a coworker who, bless her heart, probably could NOT have been any more stupid. I brought a home made chocolate cupcake into work to give to my manager because it was her birthday. The home made cupcake was in a SALSA jar, and this girl looks at me and asked if it was home made, and I told her yes. She asked me how did I make it, which, at the time, I thought she meant "How did you make it vegan?" Which was a valid question. I listed some items, sugar, soy milk, flour, coco powder, ect. And this girl looked at me and asked how did I make it chocolate. I repeated coco powder.
She actually looked at me and asked me how that made it chocolate. I explained coco powder was chocolate, and she blinked confused, and repeated AGAIN, "Well, yeah, but how does that make it chocolate?" My friend who subscribes to the primal diet looked everything up and explained, specifically, how one gets coco powder.
Just so no one worries, this girl did make it to the eleventh grade, was 18 at the time, and had a job. Oh, but she had no clue that World War 2 happened. Or world war one, for that matter. Or the Holocaust. Never heard of Hitler.
She was a hoot.0 -
Angelfire365 wrote: »Chrysalid2014 wrote: »Lots of people eliminate carbs; that doesn't qualify as "broscience".
As my mother would say, "If your friends jumped off the High Level bridge, would you do it too?" Just because it's popular right now does not mean it's good science. Or even good. We have three macro-nutrients and many, many micro-nutrients. I won't find many people who would argue over the necessity of a micro-nutrient, say, Vitamin D. So why do people think that the answer to their diet woes is to eliminate an entire macro-nutrient?
Besides, chances are they'll get it wrong. They'll cut breads and pastas but keep eating yams and fruit. And wonder why their carb numbers are still so high.
When I was diabetic, a well-meaning bunkmate at a women's retreat brought me a big bag of "sugar free" candies. I took one look at the nutrition label and rejected them. First ingredient? Glucose. Her nose was seriously out of joint. Oh well. I wasn't going to flake out on a sugar high just so she wouldn't be offended in her ignorance.
Edmonton Proud!!! Well, Leduc proud, but close enough right?
Fort Saskatchewan, baby!0 -
Oh! Oh! I have stories for you!
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Oh, but she had no clue that World War 2 happened. Or world war one, for that matter. Or the Holocaust. Never heard of Hitler.
She was a hoot.
That hurts my soul.
(I love how southerners use "bless her heart" rather than a more ... direct term. Lol)
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sobriquet01 wrote: »Oh! Oh! I have stories for you!
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Oh, but she had no clue that World War 2 happened. Or world war one, for that matter. Or the Holocaust. Never heard of Hitler.
She was a hoot.
That hurts my soul.
(I love how southerners use "bless her heart" rather than a more ... direct term. Lol)
I'm from Alabama and now live in Florida (which is geographically more Southern but culturally not so) and was having a conversation with this lady from Georgia, and when referencing another person, I said "Bless that babies heart." And she simply nodded. We both knew what we meant, but this other guy, (Not Southern) chimed in, "I thought you hated her? Why are you blessing her?" And we both giggled. Bless her heart is almost NEVER a positive thing, and it's kind of awesome when you can say it, and others have no clue what you truly mean.
And yeah, she hurt my soul also. I work in the snack bar of a indoor amusement park, and our POS systems have labeled buttons you press for items (I.e. "Soda" "Pizza"), and it tells you the total. You then press the total they give you, and it tells you the change to give them. The same girl would manage to get to the part where it told you what the change should be, (An example of this happening is total was 2.15, girl was given a 5$, and change would have been 2.85$) and she would look at the bill, look at me, then throw the bill down and walk away, proclaiming that she couldn't do it. She would give people 8 dimes and a nickel, instead of 3 quarters and a dime, because she honestly didn't know how to count quarters. I could go on for DAYS about her silliness.
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harpsdesire wrote:A random stranger on a train once stopped me and told be that I wouldn't
be so fat if I just ate more cucumber, because of the 'essential minerals'.debsdoingthis wrote:Had a naked lady sit beside me and proceed to tell me that I wasn't really
overweight, my body was just full of yeast and if I just cut out yeast and
did some kind of cleanse I would be miraculously trim and fit!
Completely aside from the lack of understanding of nutrition shown,marilandica wrote:I've lost over 100 lbs. You can't walk across the parking lot.
Tell me again what I should be eating.
I am more & more annoyed/upset/enraged (it's getting worse) at the practice of making comments
& giving unsolicited advice to complete strangers about their bodies. (Usually women, though fat men
are fair game too.)
I think an appropriate response is something along the lines of, "I don't remember asking for your advice".
(Unless it's a fairly elderly person; they're allowed to get away with pretty much anything.)
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Almost... a kilocalorie (kcal) would heat 1 liter of water by 1 degree C.stevencloser wrote:1 Calorie to heat 1 liter of water by 1 degree Celsius
(And yes, some people use Calorie for kcal, but most people don't understand that.)
A calorie (cal) would heat 1 milliliter the same amount.
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FTFY.RAinWA wrote:I have been banned from climbing on the counters after dislocating my
shoulder falling off the counter. (In my defense, the cat had a hand paw in that.)
And I'm sorry, but I chuckled when I read this.0 -
I sent this in a PM, but thought it could benefit others, so am including it here...
For the people looking for good brats (and yes, that means bratwurst),
you definitely need to come to Wisconsin.
Lots of Germans settled here, lots of good German food traditions remain.
Here are 2 commercial brat-makers which are local to Milwaukee:
http://www.usinger.com/ They ship, and are in many stores, at least over here.
http://www.klements.com/ Not sure if they ship, but they are in stores.
(If they don't ship, and you're willing to cover the costs, I'd be willing to buy, pack, & ship them to you.)
And this is a small one-off place in a northern suburb of Milwaukee. They ship.
Awesome delicious wonderful fresh yummy noms.
And did I mention that they're really really _really_ good?
http://www.houseofhomemadesausage.com/
You're welcome.
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harpsdesire wrote:A random stranger on a train once stopped me and told be that I wouldn't
be so fat if I just ate more cucumber, because of the 'essential minerals'.debsdoingthis wrote:Had a naked lady sit beside me and proceed to tell me that I wasn't really
overweight, my body was just full of yeast and if I just cut out yeast and
did some kind of cleanse I would be miraculously trim and fit!
Completely aside from the lack of understanding of nutrition shown,marilandica wrote:I've lost over 100 lbs. You can't walk across the parking lot.
Tell me again what I should be eating.
I am more & more annoyed/upset/enraged (it's getting worse) at the practice of making comments
& giving unsolicited advice to complete strangers about their bodies. (Usually women, though fat men
are fair game too.)
I think an appropriate response is something along the lines of, "I don't remember asking for your advice".
(Unless it's a fairly elderly person; they're allowed to get away with pretty much anything.)
.
Almost... a kilocalorie (kcal) would heat 1 liter of water by 1 degree C.stevencloser wrote:1 Calorie to heat 1 liter of water by 1 degree Celsius
(And yes, some people use Calorie for kcal, but most people don't understand that.)
A calorie (cal) would heat 1 milliliter the same amount.
.
FTFY.RAinWA wrote:I have been banned from climbing on the counters after dislocating my
shoulder falling off the counter. (In my defense, the cat had a hand paw in that.)
And I'm sorry, but I chuckled when I read this.
They're running out of smokers to advise, they had to move on to a bigger pond.0 -
stevencloser wrote:1 Calorie to heat 1 liter of water by 1 degree Celsius
Almost... a kilocalorie (kcal) would heat 1 liter of water by 1 degree C.
(And yes, some people use Calorie for kcal, but most people don't understand that.)
A calorie (cal) would heat 1 milliliter the same amount.
Here's a calc I just did the other day . . .
Yes, we all know that 1 calorie will heat 1 mL of water 1 degree C. But convert that to dietary terms, and it quite interesting that approximately:
1 kcal (or 1 Calorie, or 1 food Calorie) will heat 1 fluid ounce of water from 32F to 98F.
Therefore, you burn 1 Calorie for every fluid ounce of ice water you drink (because your body expends energy raising the temperature of that water). I'm not saying anybody's getting skinny by drinking 5 gallons of ice water instead of going for a run. But every bit counts, right?
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jeffkennedymembermensaorg wrote: »stevencloser wrote:1 Calorie to heat 1 liter of water by 1 degree Celsius
Almost... a kilocalorie (kcal) would heat 1 liter of water by 1 degree C.
(And yes, some people use Calorie for kcal, but most people don't understand that.)
A calorie (cal) would heat 1 milliliter the same amount.
Here's a calc I just did the other day . . .
Yes, we all know that 1 calorie will heat 1 mL of water 1 degree C. But convert that to dietary terms, and it quite interesting that approximately:
1 kcal (or 1 Calorie, or 1 food Calorie) will heat 1 fluid ounce of water from 32F to 98F.
Therefore, you burn 1 Calorie for every fluid ounce of ice water you drink (because your body expends energy raising the temperature of that water). I'm not saying anybody's getting skinny by drinking 5 gallons of ice water instead of going for a run. But every bit counts, right?
So if I put ice in my wine it has less calories? Result!0
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