Is Diet Coke actually Satan?
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Swiftlet66 wrote: »Parents: I am just wondering but would you allow your little boy or girl to drink diet soda every day?
Parents who would allow: I'd like to suggest you do a long term study on the effects (if any) for drinking diet soda in children. For the sake of proving your point of course, that diet soda is harmless.
I would NOT let my kids eat/drink anything every day (except water) - variety is important.
I do let them drink some every once in a while.
But these straw men posts can easily be disputed. Why don't you feed your kid " healthy" broccoli or spinach with every meal (please don't)? You'll discover that even these are toxic in excess.0 -
Swiftlet66 wrote: »Parents: I am just wondering but would you allow your little boy or girl to drink diet soda every day?
Parents who would allow: I'd like to suggest you do a long term study on the effects (if any) for drinking diet soda in children. For the sake of proving your point of course, that diet soda is harmless.
My 7 year old son is drinking a can of diet grape soda right now. Surprisingly, he hasn't turned purple or keeled over yet
Also, I have pictures that my mom took of me as a toddler, holding a bottle with soda in it. Somehow I've survived to be 36 years old and I'm in pretty awesome health. Go figure.0 -
All sweetners are starting to show up as increasing insulin resistance. Will they make you fat no, will they start processing you as a pre diabetic - maybe0
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Yep, it's Satan. And the fellow demons are named "Sugar" and "Excess Carbs". I love your playful post! I've never had a diet Coke in my life, and only twice (in emergencies because there was not even water available) have I even had regular Coke. I just can't figure out how any human can drink soda (pop) of any kind and not want to rush to brush their teeth - that stuff is NASTY!
However, me and the two fellow demons have been struggling for years...0 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
well played sir0 -
. No, its early days in the research but some Drs are getting concerned. One artifical sweetner that was deemed safe is now banned.(Cyclamates). The rest are still being looked into.
Read http://advances.nutrition.org/content/4/6/677.full
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I don't care for any reasoning that is based on "artificial sweeteners" as a category. Any chemical needs its own individual assessment.
. No, its early days in the research but some Drs are getting concerned. One artifical sweetner that was deemed safe is now banned.(Cyclamates). The rest are still being looked into.
Read http://advances.nutrition.org/content/4/6/677.full
On top of that, saying some doctors are concerned is a teach the controversy gambit.
I can find biology PhD's that argue against evolution.
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I don't care for any reasoning that is based on "artificial sweeteners" as a category. Any chemical needs its own individual assessment.
. No, its early days in the research but some Drs are getting concerned. One artifical sweetner that was deemed safe is now banned.(Cyclamates). The rest are still being looked into.
Read http://advances.nutrition.org/content/4/6/677.full
On top of that, saying some doctors are concerned is a teach the controversy gambit.
I can find biology PhD's that argue against evolution.
And yet you couldnt do a google search on Artificial sweeteners and insulin resistance...
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Swiftlet66 wrote: »Parents: I am just wondering but would you allow your little boy or girl to drink diet soda every day?
Parents who would allow: I'd like to suggest you do a long term study on the effects (if any) for drinking diet soda in children. For the sake of proving your point of course, that diet soda is harmless.
no because shes already overactive, she doesnt need caffeine
no because of the acid it affects her reflux which due to her subglottic stenosis causes cysts in her gullet, the same reason why she can only drink watered down fruit juice occasionally
no because im trying to teach her moderation so she only gets items that people would consider treats ocassionally so she understands these items shouldnt be making up the bulk of her diet0 -
All sweetners are starting to show up as increasing insulin resistance. Will they make you fat no, will they start processing you as a pre diabetic - maybe
Huh, I went the opposite direction-started drinking diet soda when I started being intentional about losing weight, because I had just found out my glucose numbers were in the pre-diabetic range (prior to that I drank regular coke). Fast forward to today and my glucose number is solidly in the normal range and my doctor no longer labels me a pre-diabetic. I drink diet soda every single day and have done so since October, 2012, which is when I started my weight loss phase.
I now have excellent blood work results, excellent blood pressure, have no health issues, and I'm not on any medication etc etc etc. My life is actually pretty darn awesome, all while drinking diet soda
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All sweetners are starting to show up as increasing insulin resistance. Will they make you fat no, will they start processing you as a pre diabetic - maybe
Considering the diagnosis of pre diabetic is even disputed what your claiming is that a substance may or may not give you a diagnosis that a lot of doctors dispute is even a diagnosis.
So No I think is the answer to that0 -
This
Seriously... I think I was born with a bottle of Diet Coke in my hands. I cut it out for 6+ months... a few years ago. It honestly didn't make a difference in my weight loss, so I started drinking it again. Now I'm back on track and still drinking diet coke. It does not make me crave sweets, I don't even crave sweets unless they are in the house, then I don't crave them, I just mindlessly eat them until they are gone. Solution: Don't have them around. Also doesn't make me want to eat more. I hate coffee, and I need caffeine, so Diet Coke is my go to. 0 -
Re: the question about if people would give diet soda's to kids..
I don't have kids, but I was once a kid, and I have been drinking diet coke as long as I can remember. My parents wanted me to drink diet soda, as opposed to regular because my mom was diabetic and would only drink regular soda. They just didn't want me to get in that habit. And the few times in my life that I have gone a month or more without drinking it has proved to do nothing for me other than make me go through withdrawals and get terrible headaches. I feel much better when I drink it actually.
So my answer is, if I had kids I see no reason to not let them have diet soda. I might possibly limit the amount, only because I know that water is probably the better choice, and personally, I hate water.. so I would try to teach my kids to actually like water and not just tolerate it, like I have to. 0 -
I can google aliens are real and get pages.
I don't care for any reasoning that is based on "artificial sweeteners" as a category. Any chemical needs its own individual assessment.
. No, its early days in the research but some Drs are getting concerned. One artifical sweetner that was deemed safe is now banned.(Cyclamates). The rest are still being looked into.
Read http://advances.nutrition.org/content/4/6/677.full
On top of that, saying some doctors are concerned is a teach the controversy gambit.
I can find biology PhD's that argue against evolution.
And yet you couldnt do a google search on Artificial sweeteners and insulin resistance...
1. It isn't evidence of anything
2. You've made the claim, burden is yours.
3. If I looked up A study and showed flaws in their methodology or results, you'd just claim that wasn't the one. So you need to provide a study that you think is solid.
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i love my satan juice.0
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Swiftlet66 wrote: »Parents: I am just wondering but would you allow your little boy or girl to drink diet soda every day?
Parents who would allow: I'd like to suggest you do a long term study on the effects (if any) for drinking diet soda in children. For the sake of proving your point of course, that diet soda is harmless.
My 3 year old drinks water, milk, and diet soda daily. She gets her choice of the three. Perfectly healthy, aside from her sensory processing disorder and anxiety disorder which has nothing to do with whether or not she drinks diet soda.0 -
It's only not evil if you mix it with a quality spiced rum.0
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
FTFY.
Artificial sweeteners may increase weight gain or slowc weight loss in some individuals because poorer choices are made elsewhere in their diets, or because they become our remain addicted to sweetened foods and consume more such foods with caloric impact. Affect all? No, but for sure some.
As for physical impacts it's early days but sufficient research exists to warrant caution.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-obesity-epidemic-scientists-say-1.2769196
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24862170
Funding Agencies: The study was fully funded by The American Beverage Association.
Disclosure: JCP, JOH received consulting fees from The Coca-Cola Company outside of the submitted work. The remaining co-authors declared no conflict of interest.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
FTFY.
Artificial sweeteners may increase weight gain or slowc weight loss in some individuals because poorer choices are made elsewhere in their diets, or because they become our remain addicted to sweetened foods and consume more such foods with caloric impact. Affect all? No, but for sure some.
As for physical impacts it's early days but sufficient research exists to warrant caution.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-obesity-epidemic-scientists-say-1.2769196
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24862170
Funding Agencies: The study was fully funded by The American Beverage Association.
Disclosure: JCP, JOH received consulting fees from The Coca-Cola Company outside of the submitted work. The remaining co-authors declared no conflict of interest.
This doesn't mean the study is bad or invalid. It just means to look a bit harder at the science-y bits and conclusions to see if there's bias there. Often, there isn't; sometimes, there is.
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There is no way, no how i would let my child guzzle that stuff!!!
Let's all come back in a few years and see what the science says then..
Right now I'm sticking with my gut feeling of avoiding it whenever I can0 -
checking back in to find out the status of the whole satan issue
holla back at me0 -
Science.
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
FTFY.
Artificial sweeteners may increase weight gain or slowc weight loss in some individuals because poorer choices are made elsewhere in their diets, or because they become our remain addicted to sweetened foods and consume more such foods with caloric impact. Affect all? No, but for sure some.
As for physical impacts it's early days but sufficient research exists to warrant caution.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-obesity-epidemic-scientists-say-1.2769196
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24862170
Funding Agencies: The study was fully funded by The American Beverage Association.
Disclosure: JCP, JOH received consulting fees from The Coca-Cola Company outside of the submitted work. The remaining co-authors declared no conflict of interest.
This doesn't mean the study is bad or invalid. It just means to look a bit harder at the science-y bits and conclusions to see if there's bias there. Often, there isn't; sometimes, there is.
Major conflict of interest. One strike.
All the participants had to be drinkers of NNS beverages to begin with. That's odd. Also, the graph at the end showing 5% is misleading, arbitrary and indicates bias when examined critically. It could have just as easily been a graph showing "percent of people who lost 1% or gained 2.4%, etc..."; manipulate the data subtly to make it look the way your client wants it to look. Need to see better studies that show the long term effects and are not funded by beverage companies.0 -
Yes - But, I say that about all diet sodas; can't stand the taste.
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
FTFY.
Artificial sweeteners may increase weight gain or slowc weight loss in some individuals because poorer choices are made elsewhere in their diets, or because they become our remain addicted to sweetened foods and consume more such foods with caloric impact. Affect all? No, but for sure some.
As for physical impacts it's early days but sufficient research exists to warrant caution.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-obesity-epidemic-scientists-say-1.2769196
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24862170
Funding Agencies: The study was fully funded by The American Beverage Association.
Disclosure: JCP, JOH received consulting fees from The Coca-Cola Company outside of the submitted work. The remaining co-authors declared no conflict of interest.
This doesn't mean the study is bad or invalid. It just means to look a bit harder at the science-y bits and conclusions to see if there's bias there. Often, there isn't; sometimes, there is.
Major conflict of interest. One strike.
All the participants had to be drinkers of NNS beverages to begin with. That's odd. Also, the graph at the end showing 5% is misleading, arbitrary and indicates bias when examined critically. It could have just as easily been a graph showing "percent of people who lost 1% or gained 2.4%, etc..."; manipulate the data subtly to make it look the way your client wants it to look. Need to see better studies that show the long term effects and are not funded by beverage companies.
Man, if only there was a link like I gave before to examine, which had a half dozen or more studies about these things.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
FTFY.
Artificial sweeteners may increase weight gain or slowc weight loss in some individuals because poorer choices are made elsewhere in their diets, or because they become our remain addicted to sweetened foods and consume more such foods with caloric impact. Affect all? No, but for sure some.
As for physical impacts it's early days but sufficient research exists to warrant caution.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/health/artificial-sweeteners-linked-to-obesity-epidemic-scientists-say-1.2769196
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24862170
Funding Agencies: The study was fully funded by The American Beverage Association.
Disclosure: JCP, JOH received consulting fees from The Coca-Cola Company outside of the submitted work. The remaining co-authors declared no conflict of interest.
This doesn't mean the study is bad or invalid. It just means to look a bit harder at the science-y bits and conclusions to see if there's bias there. Often, there isn't; sometimes, there is.
Major conflict of interest. One strike.
All the participants had to be drinkers of NNS beverages to begin with. That's odd. Also, the graph at the end showing 5% is misleading, arbitrary and indicates bias when examined critically. It could have just as easily been a graph showing "percent of people who lost 1% or gained 2.4%, etc..."; manipulate the data subtly to make it look the way your client wants it to look. Need to see better studies that show the long term effects and are not funded by beverage companies.
Man, if only there was a link like I gave before to examine, which had a half dozen or more studies about these things.
And if only it were possible to recognize and attempt to combat our own biases instead of being a warrior of righteousness.
I personally don't see an issue with this study especially when taken in conjunction with the others.
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All Hail Aspartame!0
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