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  • accidentalpancake
    accidentalpancake Posts: 484 Member
    edited July 2015
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    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Hormone response, age, insulin sensitivity. These are just a few of the things that cause variations in the processing of food among individuals.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    midpath wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    I think it's ridiculous to assume our bodies are all the same. Period. Just because one person can eat a piece of cake and feel fine doesn't mean everyone can. So maybe its not in their heads.

    To the OP, people can have a weird reaction to foods and ingredients they haven't had in a long time. It could also be bad cake. You also could've already had a bug.

    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Actually for someone to go without sugar for a long period of time and then eat a large amount of something extremely sugar dense can mess with your stomach.

    Why's that hard for you to grasp?

    funny, last time I did that I had zero issue as did @Cwolfman13 so that is why it is hard to grasp.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
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    Missed that it was two slices...my bad

    Regardless I'd hardly call that "a large amount of something extremely sugar dense".
  • midpath
    midpath Posts: 246 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    I think it's ridiculous to assume our bodies are all the same. Period. Just because one person can eat a piece of cake and feel fine doesn't mean everyone can. So maybe its not in their heads.

    To the OP, people can have a weird reaction to foods and ingredients they haven't had in a long time. It could also be bad cake. You also could've already had a bug.

    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Actually for someone to go without sugar for a long period of time and then eat a large amount of something extremely sugar dense can mess with your stomach.

    Why's that hard for you to grasp?

    funny, last time I did that I had zero issue as did @Cwolfman13 so that is why it is hard to grasp.

    Exactly my point. It can mess with your stomach. Doesn't mean it will, but it can. For some people.
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
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    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Hormone response, age, insulin sensitivity. These are just a few of the things that cause variations in the processing of food among individuals.

    2 of the 3 you just listed are outliers from the norm. Are abnormal homone and insulin issues not considered medical conditions?
  • midpath
    midpath Posts: 246 Member
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    mantium999 wrote: »
    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Hormone response, age, insulin sensitivity. These are just a few of the things that cause variations in the processing of food among individuals.

    2 of the 3 you just listed are outliers from the norm. Are abnormal homone and insulin issues not considered medical conditions?

    Not if you aren't diagnosed. It's estimated that more people have these issues than are aware of it.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    midpath wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    I think it's ridiculous to assume our bodies are all the same. Period. Just because one person can eat a piece of cake and feel fine doesn't mean everyone can. So maybe its not in their heads.

    To the OP, people can have a weird reaction to foods and ingredients they haven't had in a long time. It could also be bad cake. You also could've already had a bug.

    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Actually for someone to go without sugar for a long period of time and then eat a large amount of something extremely sugar dense can mess with your stomach.

    Why's that hard for you to grasp?

    funny, last time I did that I had zero issue as did @Cwolfman13 so that is why it is hard to grasp.

    Exactly my point. It can mess with your stomach. Doesn't mean it will, but it can. For some people.

    no, you think it does. Big difference.

    but we have gone off the rails enough ..

  • accidentalpancake
    accidentalpancake Posts: 484 Member
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    mantium999 wrote: »
    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Hormone response, age, insulin sensitivity. These are just a few of the things that cause variations in thue processing of food among individuals.

    2 of the 3 you just listed are outliers from the norm. Are abnormal homone and insulin issues not considered medical conditions?

    Define medical problem.
  • accidentalpancake
    accidentalpancake Posts: 484 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    I think it's ridiculous to assume our bodies are all the same. Period. Just because one person can eat a piece of cake and feel fine doesn't mean everyone can. So maybe its not in their heads.

    To the OP, people can have a weird reaction to foods and ingredients they haven't had in a long time. It could also be bad cake. You also could've already had a bug.

    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Actually for someone to go without sugar for a long period of time and then eat a large amount of something extremely sugar dense can mess with your stomach.

    Why's that hard for you to grasp?

    funny, last time I did that I had zero issue as did @Cwolfman13 so that is why it is hard to grasp.

    Exactly my point. It can mess with your stomach. Doesn't mean it will, but it can. For some people.

    no, you think it does. Big difference.

    but we have gone off the rails enough ..

    Surely you have references for your claim, yes?
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
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    midpath wrote: »
    mantium999 wrote: »
    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Hormone response, age, insulin sensitivity. These are just a few of the things that cause variations in the processing of food among individuals.

    2 of the 3 you just listed are outliers from the norm. Are abnormal homone and insulin issues not considered medical conditions?

    Not if you aren't diagnosed. It's estimated that more people have these issues than are aware of it.

    Um...just because something is undiagnosed, doesn't make it any less of a medical condition.
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
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    midpath wrote: »
    mantium999 wrote: »
    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Hormone response, age, insulin sensitivity. These are just a few of the things that cause variations in the processing of food among individuals.

    2 of the 3 you just listed are outliers from the norm. Are abnormal homone and insulin issues not considered medical conditions?

    Not if you aren't diagnosed. It's estimated that more people have these issues than are aware of it.

    Wait, so a condition is only one in the presence of a diagnosis?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    mantium999 wrote: »
    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Hormone response, age, insulin sensitivity. These are just a few of the things that cause variations in thue processing of food among individuals.

    2 of the 3 you just listed are outliers from the norm. Are abnormal homone and insulin issues not considered medical conditions?

    Define medical problem.

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  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
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    oh my lawd some people on mfp..
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    ceoverturf wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    mantium999 wrote: »
    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Hormone response, age, insulin sensitivity. These are just a few of the things that cause variations in the processing of food among individuals.

    2 of the 3 you just listed are outliers from the norm. Are abnormal homone and insulin issues not considered medical conditions?

    Not if you aren't diagnosed. It's estimated that more people have these issues than are aware of it.

    Um...just because something is undiagnosed, doesn't make it any less of a medical condition.

    *wow*
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
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    ceoverturf wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    mantium999 wrote: »
    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Hormone response, age, insulin sensitivity. These are just a few of the things that cause variations in the processing of food among individuals.

    2 of the 3 you just listed are outliers from the norm. Are abnormal homone and insulin issues not considered medical conditions?

    Not if you aren't diagnosed. It's estimated that more people have these issues than are aware of it.

    Um...just because something is undiagnosed, doesn't make it any less of a medical condition.

    +1
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    I think it's ridiculous to assume our bodies are all the same. Period. Just because one person can eat a piece of cake and feel fine doesn't mean everyone can. So maybe its not in their heads.

    To the OP, people can have a weird reaction to foods and ingredients they haven't had in a long time. It could also be bad cake. You also could've already had a bug.

    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Actually for someone to go without sugar for a long period of time and then eat a large amount of something extremely sugar dense can mess with your stomach.

    Why's that hard for you to grasp?

    funny, last time I did that I had zero issue as did @Cwolfman13 so that is why it is hard to grasp.

    Exactly my point. It can mess with your stomach. Doesn't mean it will, but it can. For some people.

    no, you think it does. Big difference.

    but we have gone off the rails enough ..

    Surely you have references for your claim, yes?

    reference for what? that absent a medical condition or food allergy our bodies process food in the same manner?
  • midpath
    midpath Posts: 246 Member
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    ceoverturf wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    mantium999 wrote: »
    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Hormone response, age, insulin sensitivity. These are just a few of the things that cause variations in the processing of food among individuals.

    2 of the 3 you just listed are outliers from the norm. Are abnormal homone and insulin issues not considered medical conditions?

    Not if you aren't diagnosed. It's estimated that more people have these issues than are aware of it.

    Um...just because something is undiagnosed, doesn't make it any less of a medical condition.

    No it doesn't mean you don't have an issue. But it does mean that on threads where you express food reactions you'll receive people telling you it's in your head. Then when people try to tell the OP that they should think about the fact that could have an insulin issue they get written off by other posters.
  • lemonsnowdrop
    lemonsnowdrop Posts: 1,298 Member
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    jmule24 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    I eat primal mostly which is similar to paleo but it calls for me to not eat as much processed foods and if I do eat processed its usually condiments with low sugar content. Last night I decided to say what the hell and go out for Mexican with some friends. I got a guacamole salad and some nachos and I paid for it all night. I had very bad stomach cramps and I was so bloated.

    I understand you wanting to throw up. I've totally done that before. It's better than feeling miserable and ill.

    This usually does happen when I occasionally go off. Alcohol doesn't do it but fast food or restaurant food does it big time. Especially sweets that aren't homemade. Idk what it is but I can just go to the bakery, I have to make my own otherwise it feels awful.

    if you can eat things from the bakery but not from the store then it is a mental thing. sugar = sugar

    The bakery sugar is more processed...... That's what it is
    mantium999 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    mantium999 wrote: »
    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Hormone response, age, insulin sensitivity. These are just a few of the things that cause variations in the processing of food among individuals.

    2 of the 3 you just listed are outliers from the norm. Are abnormal homone and insulin issues not considered medical conditions?

    Not if you aren't diagnosed. It's estimated that more people have these issues than are aware of it.

    Wait, so a condition is only one in the presence of a diagnosis?

    Um. I'm confused. Like, if you go to your doctor and say "I think I'm gluten intolerant," and they do tests, and the tests come back negative and your doctor says "nope, you're not"...you're saying it's still possible?
  • accidentalpancake
    accidentalpancake Posts: 484 Member
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    ndj1979 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    I think it's ridiculous to assume our bodies are all the same. Period. Just because one person can eat a piece of cake and feel fine doesn't mean everyone can. So maybe its not in their heads.

    To the OP, people can have a weird reaction to foods and ingredients they haven't had in a long time. It could also be bad cake. You also could've already had a bug.

    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Actually for someone to go without sugar for a long period of time and then eat a large amount of something extremely sugar dense can mess with your stomach.

    Why's that hard for you to grasp?

    funny, last time I did that I had zero issue as did @Cwolfman13 so that is why it is hard to grasp.

    Exactly my point. It can mess with your stomach. Doesn't mean it will, but it can. For some people.

    no, you think it does. Big difference.

    but we have gone off the rails enough ..

    Surely you have references for your claim, yes?

    reference for what? that absent a medical condition or food allergy our bodies process food in the same manner?

    For your claim that the GI distress described by several people here didn't actually occur.
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
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    jmule24 wrote: »
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    I eat primal mostly which is similar to paleo but it calls for me to not eat as much processed foods and if I do eat processed its usually condiments with low sugar content. Last night I decided to say what the hell and go out for Mexican with some friends. I got a guacamole salad and some nachos and I paid for it all night. I had very bad stomach cramps and I was so bloated.

    I understand you wanting to throw up. I've totally done that before. It's better than feeling miserable and ill.

    This usually does happen when I occasionally go off. Alcohol doesn't do it but fast food or restaurant food does it big time. Especially sweets that aren't homemade. Idk what it is but I can just go to the bakery, I have to make my own otherwise it feels awful.

    if you can eat things from the bakery but not from the store then it is a mental thing. sugar = sugar

    The bakery sugar is more processed...... That's what it is
    mantium999 wrote: »
    midpath wrote: »
    mantium999 wrote: »
    absent a medical condition or food allergy, our bodies all process food in the same manner..so not sure how that is ridiculous.

    Just because you think you are different does not make it so.

    Hormone response, age, insulin sensitivity. These are just a few of the things that cause variations in the processing of food among individuals.

    2 of the 3 you just listed are outliers from the norm. Are abnormal homone and insulin issues not considered medical conditions?

    Not if you aren't diagnosed. It's estimated that more people have these issues than are aware of it.

    Wait, so a condition is only one in the presence of a diagnosis?

    Um. I'm confused. Like, if you go to your doctor and say "I think I'm gluten intolerant," and they do tests, and the tests come back negative and your doctor says "nope, you're not"...you're saying it's still possible?

    I think he's saying more along the lines if you have the condition in question, you have it even before you get diagnosed or if you don't go to the doctor.