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SUGAR what's your view

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  • Posts: 5,377 Member
    So what if I eat an apple's worth of sugar in the form of gummi vitamins? Is that my healthiest option?
  • Posts: 246 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    So what if I eat an apple's worth of sugar in the form of gummi vitamins? Is that my healthiest option?

    Arguably yes. The release, probably not. But the nutrition yes.
  • Posts: 29,136 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    So what if I eat an apple's worth of sugar in the form of gummi vitamins? Is that my healthiest option?

    ummm yes, because vitamins?
  • Posts: 29,136 Member
    midpath wrote: »

    Arguably yes. The release, probably not. But the nutrition yes.

    I think you don't understand insulin…

  • Posts: 29,136 Member
    @midpath I usually don't agree with this poster but I suggest you read up on sugar at this posthttp://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10197460/sugar-faq-june-2015#latest

    hopefully that will educate you on sugar.
  • Posts: 246 Member
    Yeah that's nice. Scroll down a smidge and you'll see another blog from mfp saying that reducing added sugars is beneficial.

    And also your link reiterated what I said about absorption.
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  • Posts: 29,136 Member
    midpath wrote: »
    Yeah that's nice. Scroll down a smidge and you'll see another blog from mfp saying that reducing added sugars is beneficial.

    And also your link reiterated what I said about absorption.

    HMMMM

    this seems to dispute your whole argument about fruit vs sugar

    7. How do natural and added sugars differ chemically ?

    They don't. The sucrose molecule is the same wherever you find it. It can be split into a glucose and a fructose molecule under acid conditions or by an enzyme. The resulting fructose and glucose molecules are the same as the native fructose and glucose molecules from fruit.
  • Posts: 29,136 Member

    Then it's called the "turkey coma"

    or food coma …

  • Posts: 5,377 Member
    FYI, a snickers has a lower glycemic index than dates or watermelon, and lower glycemic load than dates.
    The insulin index of a donut? Lower than the insulin index of a banana or grapes.
  • Posts: 246 Member

    Then it's called the "turkey coma"
    . Eating large amounts of foods high in tryptophan, such as turkey, has not been shown to cause drowsiness. This effect typically is associated with eating carbohydrates, which trigger the release of insulin. A metabolite of tryptophan, 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP), may have application in the treatment of depression and epilepsy.
  • Posts: 5,377 Member

    Then it's called the "turkey coma"
    Turkey comas? Not a tryptoFan of those.
  • Posts: 246 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »

    HMMMM

    this seems to dispute your whole argument about fruit vs sugar

    7. How do natural and added sugars differ chemically ?

    They don't. The sucrose molecule is the same wherever you find it. It can be split into a glucose and a fructose molecule under acid conditions or by an enzyme. The resulting fructose and glucose molecules are the same as the native fructose and glucose molecules from fruit.

    I specifically said that they weren't different sugars. I said the timing they enter your bloodstream is different. Are you just trying to find something to argue about? You're pulling arguments out that aren't even there.
  • Posts: 29,136 Member
    midpath wrote: »

    I specifically said that they weren't different sugars. I said the timing they enter your bloodstream is different. Are you just trying to find something to argue about? You're pulling arguments out that aren't even there.

    my point is that you do not understand sugar or insulin spikes, which your repeated comments confirm.
  • Posts: 246 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    FYI, a snickers has a lower glycemic index than dates or watermelon, and lower glycemic load than dates.
    The insulin index of a donut? Lower than the insulin index of a banana or grapes.

    Which is why I usually don't eat those. Especially not dates unless it's in the occasional desert. Bananas sometimes but not too often. Generally I stick to raspberries, or the like.
  • Posts: 5,377 Member
    midpath wrote: »
    . Eating large amounts of foods high in tryptophan, such as turkey, has not been shown to cause drowsiness. This effect typically is associated with eating carbohydrates, which trigger the release of insulin. A metabolite of tryptophan, 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP), may have application in the treatment of depression and epilepsy.
    Finally facts. I'd actually bet NDJ and Tanuki are already aware the Thanksgiving tryptophan myth is a myth.
    Though LOLs at tryptophan as an anti-depressant just because it is a serotonin precursor.
  • Posts: 5,377 Member
    midpath wrote: »

    Which is why I usually don't eat those. Especially not dates unless it's in the occasional desert. Bananas sometimes but not too often. Generally I stick to raspberries, or the like.
    All that sugar, I find raspberries and other fruits stick to me.
  • Posts: 29,136 Member
    I am just going to put this there and hope someone educates themselves about insulin ..http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
  • Posts: 246 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    Finally facts. I'd actually bet NDJ and Tanuki are already aware the Thanksgiving tryptophan myth is a myth.
    Though LOLs at tryptophan as an anti-depressant just because it is a serotonin precursor.

    I don't see why further research to help people with depression is funny. Lots of people could benefit if the future research showed tryptophan as a good anti depressant.
  • Posts: 1,382 Member
    midpath wrote: »

    I specifically said that they weren't different sugars. I said the timing they enter your bloodstream is different. Are you just trying to find something to argue about? You're pulling arguments out that aren't even there.

    Wrong again...... You even appear to have read one link.....
  • Posts: 5,377 Member
    midpath wrote: »

    I don't see why further research to help people with depression is funny. Lots of people could benefit if the future research showed tryptophan as a good anti depressant.
    Excuse me if I can't find it funny to bring up tryptophan as an anti-depressant. Shame, being dysthymic, I take laughs where I can get them.
    There are lots of things that are precursor substances to other chemicals in the body. Research panning out them isn't usually the greatest, which is what I find funny. Well that and I don't care for serotonin based anti-depressants.
    I guess I'll avoid any more protein powder or turkey tonight, wouldn't want to find this stuff too funny.
  • Posts: 246 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    Excuse me if I can't find it funny to bring up tryptophan as an anti-depressant. Shame, being dysthymic, I take laughs where I can get them.
    There are lots of things that are precursor substances to other chemicals in the body. Research panning out them isn't usually the greatest, which is what I find funny. Well that and I don't care for serotonin based anti-depressants.
    I guess I'll avoid any more protein powder or turkey tonight, wouldn't want to find this stuff too funny.

    Butthurt much
  • Posts: 192 Member
    I like potatoes and ice cream. Not together, though.

    That just made me laugh given the number of people I know who dip their fries (usually McDonalds) in softserve ice cream
  • Posts: 246 Member
    KiwiAlexP wrote: »

    That just made me laugh given the number of people I know who dip their fries (usually McDonalds) in softserve ice cream

    My husband really digs the potato chip Ben and Jerry's.
  • Posts: 5,377 Member
    midpath wrote: »

    Butthurt much

    Yes, depression is pretty painful. Won't you consider my feefees? They're particularly sensitive to overgeneralized research comments unrelated to myths about food induced lethargy that everyone the thread was already aware of as myths.
  • Posts: 52 Member
    sugar is fine as long as long you don't go crazy on the ones that are simple carbs.
  • Posts: 246 Member
    senecarr wrote: »

    Yes, depression is pretty painful. Won't you consider my feefees? They're particularly sensitive to overgeneralized research comments unrelated to myths about food induced lethargy that everyone the thread was already aware of as myths.

    Forgive me I can't read minds especially not over the internet. I wasn't expecting a comment to my protein-sugar spike statement and when i received one I really didn't think it'd be to say something that they knew was false. Apparently I over estimate the people on MFP.
  • Posts: 1,490 Member
    I'm just stopping by cuz I heard we were talking McDs fries and ice cream. Though I prefer them with a chocolate shake. Then I scrolled, and laughed at the short-bussery. And found snickers.
  • Posts: 57 Member
    That's a lot of discussion while I sleep. My view is this excess sugar more than we need is bad. And you can get sugar from carbs but, we need to think how sugar effects our body. A banana after a work out is a great energy source low calories. Eating a snicker, not the best idea.

    Remember the body has to be balanced think of the liver, your gut etc. If you eat healthy with lots of different nutrients you are healthier over all. If a person ate the majority of their diet from sugar they would not be as healthy as they appear.

    My issue is added sugar such as in tea, eating sweets, cakes or chocolate is foods we don't need to eat. The body processes all foods differently. Such as protein filling you up more, we know sugar is for energy, but without it being from fruit etc, it comes with no nutritional value. It's used as a cheap way to bulk food and make it taste better. Personally I don't used artificial sweeteners as it is a chemical I don't know the effect it will have.

    If foods can raise the metabolism surely some can sloe it down.
  • Posts: 10,477 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    So is a snickers with almonds better for me than a regular snickers 'cause fiber in almonds? I need to know next time I'm picking stuff out at the gas station.

    probably has a different blood glucose response, yes.
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