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MarziPanda95 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »KisforKrista wrote: »Well as long as you are sure you are being accurate, although its going to be hard for people to help you if one day you need it because they wont be able to see that in your logging and will assume you don't know what you are consuming and eating more then you think you are.
My diary and logging are for me, I don't mind other people looking at them, but that's how recipes are logged. There's nothing I can do about that. I weigh every single thing I put in my mouth unless I just don't have access to a scale, I am EXTREMELY accurate. I don't really need help as far as what I eat, and if I decided that I needed help I would probably mention in my post that "servings" are either based off a recipe or something actually weighed exactly what the serving size says.
Sorry but 3 servings of 'sweet crepes with strawberry filling' has way more than 309 calories and 39 grams of carbs.
Same goes for meatloaf. 3 servings for 284 calories? I don't think so.
I'm sorry but did you read the rest of my comments? I guarantee all of that is completely accurate.
Do you mind sending the recipes for the crepes and meatloaf you made?
Sure:
Meatloaf: 6 servings (I ate 3)
208 grams ground beef
70 grams white onion
5 grams shredded carrot
46 gram egg (a medium sized egg)
40 grams bread crumbs (Great value whole wheat)
a little garlic, salt, and pepper (not enough to even show up on the scale)
Potatoes: 2 servings (I ate 1)
231 grams potatoes
23 grams butter (about 2 tbs)
1/3 cup 1% milk
plus a little salt and garlic for flavor
Crepes: 4 servings (I ate 3 because I burned one)
62 grams enriched wheat flour
49 gram egg (medium sized egg)
1/4 cup 1% milk
1/4 cup water
a tiny bit of salt
12 grams butter
3 grams raw sugar
Thanks for the recipes! The calorie counts are more believable after seeing the recipes. Each serving is obviously on the small side.
If you think those servings are small then you probably have a very skewed view of how much you should be eating. I can't see how anyone could eat more than 3 crepes with filling. The meatloaf was a total of 210 grams, and the potatoes were about 153 grams. Of course, I ate some other things for dessert... but I honestly wouldn't have eaten more than that even when I wasn't trying to lose weight.
Based on your diary, your diet is mainly comprised of carbs. You eat very little protein from what I can see. For example, crepes would never be satisfying or filling for me because they are made up of entirely carbs and little to no protein. You ate 3 breadsticks for dinner one night… I personally wouldn't call that a dinner. I like well-balanced meals with a similar ratio of carbs, protein, and fat.
I can make assumptions too.
I ate 3 breadsticks for dinner because I ate a really large snack and my parents surprised me by showing up at my apartment and taking me out to dinner. (and since that's a 2 hour drive for them and they just came to fix my car I couldn't really say "no") I still had 50 grams of protein that day and my daily goal is 60.
I have balanced days and weeks, not necessarily balanced meals because dinner is often the only meal I can eat at home.
Sure, I eat carbs because they're filling, but I also eat a lot of protein throughout most days.
You also have a much higher calorie goal than I do, my protein and carbs are just about on point for the amount of calories I actually consume.
I eat things I enjoy, I am healthy and consistently losing weight. I stay under my calorie goal. I meticulously weigh every single thing I eat.
Frankly, looking at your diary I feel I would be extremely bored with your diet.
The whole point of the original post is that she doesn't like having to worry about what she eats. Dieting is awful and boring, and while I love healthy food I want people to know that you don't have to have "forbidden foods" or be restrictive to lose weight and to be healthy.
I personally don't consider 50-60 grams of protein/day a lot of protein. You might- that's fine.
I eat the way I eat because I have medical conditions that require me to do so. I also eat the way I do because it makes me feel my best and keeps me out of the hospital.
No where have I said that there's anything wrong with incorporating foods you enjoy into your diet. I ALWAYS tell people to eat the foods they enjoy in moderation because eliminating foods leads to binges and yo-yo dieting.
60 grams is enough because my calorie goal is 1200. Your calorie goal appears to be 2000 so more protein is required. It's a ratio, there's NO way I could reach more than MAYBE 70 grams of protein and still stay under my calorie goal.
You're upset because I said your eating was boring, but you eat that way because you have to. So why are you condemning how I eat?
You might be surprised to learn that even though MFP does do macros by percentages, 50g of protein is the absolute minimum you should get no matter how many calories you eat. Even on a medically supervised VLCD, 50g is usually the minimum. Protein grams aren't as affected by how many calories you're allowed as you might think!
There seems to be a lot of arguing for no reason, here. She accepted that she was wrong about your meatloaf and crepes, there was no need to continue the argument by saying she has a skewed view on portion sizes. Truth is that she was right. Most average portions of those foods have a lot more calories than what you said. All she was saying was that you said it was x amount of servings but they were smaller servings than she anticipated.
ANYWAY. OP. Dieting doesn't have to be boring! You can still enjoy treats and fit them in your calories, and there are a lot of fun healthy low cal recipes out there on the internet
Isn't the whole reason many people are on MFP is because they don't know what correct portion sizes are? Also, yeah, maybe they're a little lower than a general serving... but when you're trying to lose weight you have to have smaller servings to enjoy some of those foods.
She did NOT except that she was wrong. And she's not right. She has continued to insist that my diet is bad. Yes, 50 grams is an absolute low, but just because I had 50 grams one day doesn't mean I only get that much every day. My goal is set at 60 grams because that is a reasonable amount, unless I eat nothing but eggs and meat there's really no way that I'm going to get much more than that while still staying under 1200 calories a day.
People are on MFP because they are looking to lose, gain, or maintain their weight by CICO.
I know what correct portion sizes are. I weigh every single thing I consume and have been doing so for 2+ years.
The only person who keeps calling your diet bad is you. I never called your diet bad- not once. My two problems with your diet are 1) 1200 calories is much too low and 2) Foods you enjoy seem to make up the majority of your calories, while nutrient dense foods are practically nonexistent. As another user pointed out, the amount of food you consume is very little and would not be satisfying for many people. Considering you only have 17 more pounds to lose, your deficit is much too large for the weight you have left to lose. Chances are you could eat 1500 calories and still lose weight.
You think I'm being rude- but I'm really just being blunt and upfront with you about your calorie intake.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MarziPanda95 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »KisforKrista wrote: »Well as long as you are sure you are being accurate, although its going to be hard for people to help you if one day you need it because they wont be able to see that in your logging and will assume you don't know what you are consuming and eating more then you think you are.
My diary and logging are for me, I don't mind other people looking at them, but that's how recipes are logged. There's nothing I can do about that. I weigh every single thing I put in my mouth unless I just don't have access to a scale, I am EXTREMELY accurate. I don't really need help as far as what I eat, and if I decided that I needed help I would probably mention in my post that "servings" are either based off a recipe or something actually weighed exactly what the serving size says.
Sorry but 3 servings of 'sweet crepes with strawberry filling' has way more than 309 calories and 39 grams of carbs.
Same goes for meatloaf. 3 servings for 284 calories? I don't think so.
I'm sorry but did you read the rest of my comments? I guarantee all of that is completely accurate.
Do you mind sending the recipes for the crepes and meatloaf you made?
Sure:
Meatloaf: 6 servings (I ate 3)
208 grams ground beef
70 grams white onion
5 grams shredded carrot
46 gram egg (a medium sized egg)
40 grams bread crumbs (Great value whole wheat)
a little garlic, salt, and pepper (not enough to even show up on the scale)
Potatoes: 2 servings (I ate 1)
231 grams potatoes
23 grams butter (about 2 tbs)
1/3 cup 1% milk
plus a little salt and garlic for flavor
Crepes: 4 servings (I ate 3 because I burned one)
62 grams enriched wheat flour
49 gram egg (medium sized egg)
1/4 cup 1% milk
1/4 cup water
a tiny bit of salt
12 grams butter
3 grams raw sugar
Thanks for the recipes! The calorie counts are more believable after seeing the recipes. Each serving is obviously on the small side.
If you think those servings are small then you probably have a very skewed view of how much you should be eating. I can't see how anyone could eat more than 3 crepes with filling. The meatloaf was a total of 210 grams, and the potatoes were about 153 grams. Of course, I ate some other things for dessert... but I honestly wouldn't have eaten more than that even when I wasn't trying to lose weight.
Based on your diary, your diet is mainly comprised of carbs. You eat very little protein from what I can see. For example, crepes would never be satisfying or filling for me because they are made up of entirely carbs and little to no protein. You ate 3 breadsticks for dinner one night… I personally wouldn't call that a dinner. I like well-balanced meals with a similar ratio of carbs, protein, and fat.
I can make assumptions too.
I ate 3 breadsticks for dinner because I ate a really large snack and my parents surprised me by showing up at my apartment and taking me out to dinner. (and since that's a 2 hour drive for them and they just came to fix my car I couldn't really say "no") I still had 50 grams of protein that day and my daily goal is 60.
I have balanced days and weeks, not necessarily balanced meals because dinner is often the only meal I can eat at home.
Sure, I eat carbs because they're filling, but I also eat a lot of protein throughout most days.
You also have a much higher calorie goal than I do, my protein and carbs are just about on point for the amount of calories I actually consume.
I eat things I enjoy, I am healthy and consistently losing weight. I stay under my calorie goal. I meticulously weigh every single thing I eat.
Frankly, looking at your diary I feel I would be extremely bored with your diet.
The whole point of the original post is that she doesn't like having to worry about what she eats. Dieting is awful and boring, and while I love healthy food I want people to know that you don't have to have "forbidden foods" or be restrictive to lose weight and to be healthy.
I personally don't consider 50-60 grams of protein/day a lot of protein. You might- that's fine.
I eat the way I eat because I have medical conditions that require me to do so. I also eat the way I do because it makes me feel my best and keeps me out of the hospital.
No where have I said that there's anything wrong with incorporating foods you enjoy into your diet. I ALWAYS tell people to eat the foods they enjoy in moderation because eliminating foods leads to binges and yo-yo dieting.
60 grams is enough because my calorie goal is 1200. Your calorie goal appears to be 2000 so more protein is required. It's a ratio, there's NO way I could reach more than MAYBE 70 grams of protein and still stay under my calorie goal.
You're upset because I said your eating was boring, but you eat that way because you have to. So why are you condemning how I eat?
You might be surprised to learn that even though MFP does do macros by percentages, 50g of protein is the absolute minimum you should get no matter how many calories you eat. Even on a medically supervised VLCD, 50g is usually the minimum. Protein grams aren't as affected by how many calories you're allowed as you might think!
There seems to be a lot of arguing for no reason, here. She accepted that she was wrong about your meatloaf and crepes, there was no need to continue the argument by saying she has a skewed view on portion sizes. Truth is that she was right. Most average portions of those foods have a lot more calories than what you said. All she was saying was that you said it was x amount of servings but they were smaller servings than she anticipated.
ANYWAY. OP. Dieting doesn't have to be boring! You can still enjoy treats and fit them in your calories, and there are a lot of fun healthy low cal recipes out there on the internet
Isn't the whole reason many people are on MFP is because they don't know what correct portion sizes are? Also, yeah, maybe they're a little lower than a general serving... but when you're trying to lose weight you have to have smaller servings to enjoy some of those foods.
She did NOT except that she was wrong. And she's not right. She has continued to insist that my diet is bad. Yes, 50 grams is an absolute low, but just because I had 50 grams one day doesn't mean I only get that much every day. My goal is set at 60 grams because that is a reasonable amount, unless I eat nothing but eggs and meat there's really no way that I'm going to get much more than that while still staying under 1200 calories a day.
People are on MFP because they are looking to lose, gain, or maintain their weight by CICO.
I know what correct portion sizes are. I weigh every single thing I consume and have been doing so for 2+ years.
The only person who keeps calling your diet bad is you. I never called your diet bad- not once. My only problem with your diet is that 1200 calories is much too low. As another user pointed out, the amount of food you consume is very little and would not be satisfying for many people. Considering you only have 17 more pounds to lose, your deficit is much too large for the weight you have left to lose. Chances are you could eat 1500 calories and still lose weight.
You think I'm being rude- but I'm really just being blunt and upfront with you about your calorie intake.
1200 calories is not "much too low". I gave MFP my information and that's what it gave me... I didn't change it at all. You're right, I could probably lose weight at 1500... but 1200 does it faster. I lose about 1.5 lbs a week. You can't say it's much too low just based on the information you have. You have no idea how tall I am or what my weight is or what my activity level is.
Unless you are a doctor I don't think you can make claims that go against professional software. There's a lot of people on 1200.0 -
If you're tired of "dieting" then your approach is wrong. You should be looking forward to enjoying what you eat to extent and not just doing it to fulfill some type of programmed eating to lose weight.
The formula hasn't changed for weight loss. Calories in/calories out.
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Well said.
Everything he says is well said.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MarziPanda95 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »KisforKrista wrote: »Well as long as you are sure you are being accurate, although its going to be hard for people to help you if one day you need it because they wont be able to see that in your logging and will assume you don't know what you are consuming and eating more then you think you are.
My diary and logging are for me, I don't mind other people looking at them, but that's how recipes are logged. There's nothing I can do about that. I weigh every single thing I put in my mouth unless I just don't have access to a scale, I am EXTREMELY accurate. I don't really need help as far as what I eat, and if I decided that I needed help I would probably mention in my post that "servings" are either based off a recipe or something actually weighed exactly what the serving size says.
Sorry but 3 servings of 'sweet crepes with strawberry filling' has way more than 309 calories and 39 grams of carbs.
Same goes for meatloaf. 3 servings for 284 calories? I don't think so.
I'm sorry but did you read the rest of my comments? I guarantee all of that is completely accurate.
Do you mind sending the recipes for the crepes and meatloaf you made?
Sure:
Meatloaf: 6 servings (I ate 3)
208 grams ground beef
70 grams white onion
5 grams shredded carrot
46 gram egg (a medium sized egg)
40 grams bread crumbs (Great value whole wheat)
a little garlic, salt, and pepper (not enough to even show up on the scale)
Potatoes: 2 servings (I ate 1)
231 grams potatoes
23 grams butter (about 2 tbs)
1/3 cup 1% milk
plus a little salt and garlic for flavor
Crepes: 4 servings (I ate 3 because I burned one)
62 grams enriched wheat flour
49 gram egg (medium sized egg)
1/4 cup 1% milk
1/4 cup water
a tiny bit of salt
12 grams butter
3 grams raw sugar
Thanks for the recipes! The calorie counts are more believable after seeing the recipes. Each serving is obviously on the small side.
If you think those servings are small then you probably have a very skewed view of how much you should be eating. I can't see how anyone could eat more than 3 crepes with filling. The meatloaf was a total of 210 grams, and the potatoes were about 153 grams. Of course, I ate some other things for dessert... but I honestly wouldn't have eaten more than that even when I wasn't trying to lose weight.
Based on your diary, your diet is mainly comprised of carbs. You eat very little protein from what I can see. For example, crepes would never be satisfying or filling for me because they are made up of entirely carbs and little to no protein. You ate 3 breadsticks for dinner one night… I personally wouldn't call that a dinner. I like well-balanced meals with a similar ratio of carbs, protein, and fat.
I can make assumptions too.
I ate 3 breadsticks for dinner because I ate a really large snack and my parents surprised me by showing up at my apartment and taking me out to dinner. (and since that's a 2 hour drive for them and they just came to fix my car I couldn't really say "no") I still had 50 grams of protein that day and my daily goal is 60.
I have balanced days and weeks, not necessarily balanced meals because dinner is often the only meal I can eat at home.
Sure, I eat carbs because they're filling, but I also eat a lot of protein throughout most days.
You also have a much higher calorie goal than I do, my protein and carbs are just about on point for the amount of calories I actually consume.
I eat things I enjoy, I am healthy and consistently losing weight. I stay under my calorie goal. I meticulously weigh every single thing I eat.
Frankly, looking at your diary I feel I would be extremely bored with your diet.
The whole point of the original post is that she doesn't like having to worry about what she eats. Dieting is awful and boring, and while I love healthy food I want people to know that you don't have to have "forbidden foods" or be restrictive to lose weight and to be healthy.
I personally don't consider 50-60 grams of protein/day a lot of protein. You might- that's fine.
I eat the way I eat because I have medical conditions that require me to do so. I also eat the way I do because it makes me feel my best and keeps me out of the hospital.
No where have I said that there's anything wrong with incorporating foods you enjoy into your diet. I ALWAYS tell people to eat the foods they enjoy in moderation because eliminating foods leads to binges and yo-yo dieting.
60 grams is enough because my calorie goal is 1200. Your calorie goal appears to be 2000 so more protein is required. It's a ratio, there's NO way I could reach more than MAYBE 70 grams of protein and still stay under my calorie goal.
You're upset because I said your eating was boring, but you eat that way because you have to. So why are you condemning how I eat?
You might be surprised to learn that even though MFP does do macros by percentages, 50g of protein is the absolute minimum you should get no matter how many calories you eat. Even on a medically supervised VLCD, 50g is usually the minimum. Protein grams aren't as affected by how many calories you're allowed as you might think!
There seems to be a lot of arguing for no reason, here. She accepted that she was wrong about your meatloaf and crepes, there was no need to continue the argument by saying she has a skewed view on portion sizes. Truth is that she was right. Most average portions of those foods have a lot more calories than what you said. All she was saying was that you said it was x amount of servings but they were smaller servings than she anticipated.
ANYWAY. OP. Dieting doesn't have to be boring! You can still enjoy treats and fit them in your calories, and there are a lot of fun healthy low cal recipes out there on the internet
Isn't the whole reason many people are on MFP is because they don't know what correct portion sizes are? Also, yeah, maybe they're a little lower than a general serving... but when you're trying to lose weight you have to have smaller servings to enjoy some of those foods.
She did NOT except that she was wrong. And she's not right. She has continued to insist that my diet is bad. Yes, 50 grams is an absolute low, but just because I had 50 grams one day doesn't mean I only get that much every day. My goal is set at 60 grams because that is a reasonable amount, unless I eat nothing but eggs and meat there's really no way that I'm going to get much more than that while still staying under 1200 calories a day.
People are on MFP because they are looking to lose, gain, or maintain their weight by CICO.
I know what correct portion sizes are. I weigh every single thing I consume and have been doing so for 2+ years.
The only person who keeps calling your diet bad is you. I never called your diet bad- not once. My only problem with your diet is that 1200 calories is much too low. As another user pointed out, the amount of food you consume is very little and would not be satisfying for many people. Considering you only have 17 more pounds to lose, your deficit is much too large for the weight you have left to lose. Chances are you could eat 1500 calories and still lose weight.
You think I'm being rude- but I'm really just being blunt and upfront with you about your calorie intake.
1200 calories is not "much too low". I gave MFP my information and that's what it gave me... I didn't change it at all. You're right, I could probably lose weight at 1500... but 1200 does it faster. I lose about 1.5 lbs a week. You can't say it's much too low just based on the information you have. You have no idea how tall I am or what my weight is or what my activity level is.
Unless you are a doctor I don't think you can make claims that go against professional software. There's a lot of people on 1200.
1200 calories is in fact too low for you. Many people here will back me up on this.
A weight loss of 1.5 lbs a week is too aggressive for the weight you have to lose (17 lbs according to your profile). Many people will back me up on this, too.
MFP sets EVERY user here calorie goal at 1200- until YOU change it to fit YOUR needs. You act like MFP is a software that magically knows the calories and macros you need for your body- it isn't. You need to enter that yourself.
BTW, weight loss isn't a race. Fast weight loss isn't necessarily good. Slow & steady wins the race.
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1200 calories is not "much too low". I gave MFP my information and that's what it gave me... I didn't change it at all. You're right, I could probably lose weight at 1500... but 1200 does it faster. I lose about 1.5 lbs a week. You can't say it's much too low just based on the information you have. You have no idea how tall I am or what my weight is or what my activity level is.
Unless you are a doctor I don't think you can make claims that go against professional software. There's a lot of people on 1200.
Okay I am not going to judge you here on what MFP told you or what does work for you...but the thing that stood out to me the most was "1200 does it faster."
May I ask you and others who do this as well--- why oh why does it have to be faster?
There are people eating 900-1100 cals a day because they want to lose the weight faster. There are people who are eating 1200 cals a day and then are famished anyway or feel deprived, but that helps them lose the weight faster.
Listen, I've been fat, and I've been overweight nearly my whole life. I get it. I want to lose the weight NOW, but that just ain't gonna happen. With the way my body is losing weight due to my apple shape, my belly will be the LAST thing to go and ooooh does that grind my gears. I wish I could make it go away faster, but there's a reason I don't.
Research shows people who lose weight faster, versus making a lifestyle change (not saying you aren't, just hear me out) tend to be the ones to gain it all back plus some. Research also shows that slower, steady weight loss is sustainable to losing the weight and keeping it off permanently. In short, I guess I can't really understand why people want to lose weight faster.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MarziPanda95 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »KisforKrista wrote: »Well as long as you are sure you are being accurate, although its going to be hard for people to help you if one day you need it because they wont be able to see that in your logging and will assume you don't know what you are consuming and eating more then you think you are.
My diary and logging are for me, I don't mind other people looking at them, but that's how recipes are logged. There's nothing I can do about that. I weigh every single thing I put in my mouth unless I just don't have access to a scale, I am EXTREMELY accurate. I don't really need help as far as what I eat, and if I decided that I needed help I would probably mention in my post that "servings" are either based off a recipe or something actually weighed exactly what the serving size says.
Sorry but 3 servings of 'sweet crepes with strawberry filling' has way more than 309 calories and 39 grams of carbs.
Same goes for meatloaf. 3 servings for 284 calories? I don't think so.
I'm sorry but did you read the rest of my comments? I guarantee all of that is completely accurate.
Do you mind sending the recipes for the crepes and meatloaf you made?
Sure:
Meatloaf: 6 servings (I ate 3)
208 grams ground beef
70 grams white onion
5 grams shredded carrot
46 gram egg (a medium sized egg)
40 grams bread crumbs (Great value whole wheat)
a little garlic, salt, and pepper (not enough to even show up on the scale)
Potatoes: 2 servings (I ate 1)
231 grams potatoes
23 grams butter (about 2 tbs)
1/3 cup 1% milk
plus a little salt and garlic for flavor
Crepes: 4 servings (I ate 3 because I burned one)
62 grams enriched wheat flour
49 gram egg (medium sized egg)
1/4 cup 1% milk
1/4 cup water
a tiny bit of salt
12 grams butter
3 grams raw sugar
Thanks for the recipes! The calorie counts are more believable after seeing the recipes. Each serving is obviously on the small side.
If you think those servings are small then you probably have a very skewed view of how much you should be eating. I can't see how anyone could eat more than 3 crepes with filling. The meatloaf was a total of 210 grams, and the potatoes were about 153 grams. Of course, I ate some other things for dessert... but I honestly wouldn't have eaten more than that even when I wasn't trying to lose weight.
Based on your diary, your diet is mainly comprised of carbs. You eat very little protein from what I can see. For example, crepes would never be satisfying or filling for me because they are made up of entirely carbs and little to no protein. You ate 3 breadsticks for dinner one night… I personally wouldn't call that a dinner. I like well-balanced meals with a similar ratio of carbs, protein, and fat.
I can make assumptions too.
I ate 3 breadsticks for dinner because I ate a really large snack and my parents surprised me by showing up at my apartment and taking me out to dinner. (and since that's a 2 hour drive for them and they just came to fix my car I couldn't really say "no") I still had 50 grams of protein that day and my daily goal is 60.
I have balanced days and weeks, not necessarily balanced meals because dinner is often the only meal I can eat at home.
Sure, I eat carbs because they're filling, but I also eat a lot of protein throughout most days.
You also have a much higher calorie goal than I do, my protein and carbs are just about on point for the amount of calories I actually consume.
I eat things I enjoy, I am healthy and consistently losing weight. I stay under my calorie goal. I meticulously weigh every single thing I eat.
Frankly, looking at your diary I feel I would be extremely bored with your diet.
The whole point of the original post is that she doesn't like having to worry about what she eats. Dieting is awful and boring, and while I love healthy food I want people to know that you don't have to have "forbidden foods" or be restrictive to lose weight and to be healthy.
I personally don't consider 50-60 grams of protein/day a lot of protein. You might- that's fine.
I eat the way I eat because I have medical conditions that require me to do so. I also eat the way I do because it makes me feel my best and keeps me out of the hospital.
No where have I said that there's anything wrong with incorporating foods you enjoy into your diet. I ALWAYS tell people to eat the foods they enjoy in moderation because eliminating foods leads to binges and yo-yo dieting.
60 grams is enough because my calorie goal is 1200. Your calorie goal appears to be 2000 so more protein is required. It's a ratio, there's NO way I could reach more than MAYBE 70 grams of protein and still stay under my calorie goal.
You're upset because I said your eating was boring, but you eat that way because you have to. So why are you condemning how I eat?
You might be surprised to learn that even though MFP does do macros by percentages, 50g of protein is the absolute minimum you should get no matter how many calories you eat. Even on a medically supervised VLCD, 50g is usually the minimum. Protein grams aren't as affected by how many calories you're allowed as you might think!
There seems to be a lot of arguing for no reason, here. She accepted that she was wrong about your meatloaf and crepes, there was no need to continue the argument by saying she has a skewed view on portion sizes. Truth is that she was right. Most average portions of those foods have a lot more calories than what you said. All she was saying was that you said it was x amount of servings but they were smaller servings than she anticipated.
ANYWAY. OP. Dieting doesn't have to be boring! You can still enjoy treats and fit them in your calories, and there are a lot of fun healthy low cal recipes out there on the internet
Isn't the whole reason many people are on MFP is because they don't know what correct portion sizes are? Also, yeah, maybe they're a little lower than a general serving... but when you're trying to lose weight you have to have smaller servings to enjoy some of those foods.
She did NOT except that she was wrong. And she's not right. She has continued to insist that my diet is bad. Yes, 50 grams is an absolute low, but just because I had 50 grams one day doesn't mean I only get that much every day. My goal is set at 60 grams because that is a reasonable amount, unless I eat nothing but eggs and meat there's really no way that I'm going to get much more than that while still staying under 1200 calories a day.
People are on MFP because they are looking to lose, gain, or maintain their weight by CICO.
I know what correct portion sizes are. I weigh every single thing I consume and have been doing so for 2+ years.
The only person who keeps calling your diet bad is you. I never called your diet bad- not once. My only problem with your diet is that 1200 calories is much too low. As another user pointed out, the amount of food you consume is very little and would not be satisfying for many people. Considering you only have 17 more pounds to lose, your deficit is much too large for the weight you have left to lose. Chances are you could eat 1500 calories and still lose weight.
You think I'm being rude- but I'm really just being blunt and upfront with you about your calorie intake.
1200 calories is not "much too low". I gave MFP my information and that's what it gave me... I didn't change it at all. You're right, I could probably lose weight at 1500... but 1200 does it faster. I lose about 1.5 lbs a week. You can't say it's much too low just based on the information you have. You have no idea how tall I am or what my weight is or what my activity level is.
Unless you are a doctor I don't think you can make claims that go against professional software. There's a lot of people on 1200.
1200 calories is in fact too low for you. Many people here will back me up on this.
A weight loss of 1.5 lbs a week is too aggressive for the weight you have to lose (17 lbs according to your profile). Many people will back me up on this, too.
MFP sets EVERY user here calorie goal at 1200- until YOU change it to fit YOUR needs. You act like MFP is a software that magically knows the calories and macros you need for your body- it isn't. You need to enter that yourself.
BTW, weight loss isn't a race. Fast weight loss isn't necessarily good. Slow & steady wins the race.
It's not "too aggressive". No matter how much weight you have to lose, from my research, as long as you're not consistently losing more than 2 lbs a week there's nothing wrong with it.
There is no time limit for how fast or slow you have to lose weight to be successful.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MarziPanda95 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »KisforKrista wrote: »Well as long as you are sure you are being accurate, although its going to be hard for people to help you if one day you need it because they wont be able to see that in your logging and will assume you don't know what you are consuming and eating more then you think you are.
My diary and logging are for me, I don't mind other people looking at them, but that's how recipes are logged. There's nothing I can do about that. I weigh every single thing I put in my mouth unless I just don't have access to a scale, I am EXTREMELY accurate. I don't really need help as far as what I eat, and if I decided that I needed help I would probably mention in my post that "servings" are either based off a recipe or something actually weighed exactly what the serving size says.
Sorry but 3 servings of 'sweet crepes with strawberry filling' has way more than 309 calories and 39 grams of carbs.
Same goes for meatloaf. 3 servings for 284 calories? I don't think so.
I'm sorry but did you read the rest of my comments? I guarantee all of that is completely accurate.
Do you mind sending the recipes for the crepes and meatloaf you made?
Sure:
Meatloaf: 6 servings (I ate 3)
208 grams ground beef
70 grams white onion
5 grams shredded carrot
46 gram egg (a medium sized egg)
40 grams bread crumbs (Great value whole wheat)
a little garlic, salt, and pepper (not enough to even show up on the scale)
Potatoes: 2 servings (I ate 1)
231 grams potatoes
23 grams butter (about 2 tbs)
1/3 cup 1% milk
plus a little salt and garlic for flavor
Crepes: 4 servings (I ate 3 because I burned one)
62 grams enriched wheat flour
49 gram egg (medium sized egg)
1/4 cup 1% milk
1/4 cup water
a tiny bit of salt
12 grams butter
3 grams raw sugar
Thanks for the recipes! The calorie counts are more believable after seeing the recipes. Each serving is obviously on the small side.
If you think those servings are small then you probably have a very skewed view of how much you should be eating. I can't see how anyone could eat more than 3 crepes with filling. The meatloaf was a total of 210 grams, and the potatoes were about 153 grams. Of course, I ate some other things for dessert... but I honestly wouldn't have eaten more than that even when I wasn't trying to lose weight.
Based on your diary, your diet is mainly comprised of carbs. You eat very little protein from what I can see. For example, crepes would never be satisfying or filling for me because they are made up of entirely carbs and little to no protein. You ate 3 breadsticks for dinner one night… I personally wouldn't call that a dinner. I like well-balanced meals with a similar ratio of carbs, protein, and fat.
I can make assumptions too.
I ate 3 breadsticks for dinner because I ate a really large snack and my parents surprised me by showing up at my apartment and taking me out to dinner. (and since that's a 2 hour drive for them and they just came to fix my car I couldn't really say "no") I still had 50 grams of protein that day and my daily goal is 60.
I have balanced days and weeks, not necessarily balanced meals because dinner is often the only meal I can eat at home.
Sure, I eat carbs because they're filling, but I also eat a lot of protein throughout most days.
You also have a much higher calorie goal than I do, my protein and carbs are just about on point for the amount of calories I actually consume.
I eat things I enjoy, I am healthy and consistently losing weight. I stay under my calorie goal. I meticulously weigh every single thing I eat.
Frankly, looking at your diary I feel I would be extremely bored with your diet.
The whole point of the original post is that she doesn't like having to worry about what she eats. Dieting is awful and boring, and while I love healthy food I want people to know that you don't have to have "forbidden foods" or be restrictive to lose weight and to be healthy.
I personally don't consider 50-60 grams of protein/day a lot of protein. You might- that's fine.
I eat the way I eat because I have medical conditions that require me to do so. I also eat the way I do because it makes me feel my best and keeps me out of the hospital.
No where have I said that there's anything wrong with incorporating foods you enjoy into your diet. I ALWAYS tell people to eat the foods they enjoy in moderation because eliminating foods leads to binges and yo-yo dieting.
60 grams is enough because my calorie goal is 1200. Your calorie goal appears to be 2000 so more protein is required. It's a ratio, there's NO way I could reach more than MAYBE 70 grams of protein and still stay under my calorie goal.
You're upset because I said your eating was boring, but you eat that way because you have to. So why are you condemning how I eat?
You might be surprised to learn that even though MFP does do macros by percentages, 50g of protein is the absolute minimum you should get no matter how many calories you eat. Even on a medically supervised VLCD, 50g is usually the minimum. Protein grams aren't as affected by how many calories you're allowed as you might think!
There seems to be a lot of arguing for no reason, here. She accepted that she was wrong about your meatloaf and crepes, there was no need to continue the argument by saying she has a skewed view on portion sizes. Truth is that she was right. Most average portions of those foods have a lot more calories than what you said. All she was saying was that you said it was x amount of servings but they were smaller servings than she anticipated.
ANYWAY. OP. Dieting doesn't have to be boring! You can still enjoy treats and fit them in your calories, and there are a lot of fun healthy low cal recipes out there on the internet
Isn't the whole reason many people are on MFP is because they don't know what correct portion sizes are? Also, yeah, maybe they're a little lower than a general serving... but when you're trying to lose weight you have to have smaller servings to enjoy some of those foods.
She did NOT except that she was wrong. And she's not right. She has continued to insist that my diet is bad. Yes, 50 grams is an absolute low, but just because I had 50 grams one day doesn't mean I only get that much every day. My goal is set at 60 grams because that is a reasonable amount, unless I eat nothing but eggs and meat there's really no way that I'm going to get much more than that while still staying under 1200 calories a day.
People are on MFP because they are looking to lose, gain, or maintain their weight by CICO.
I know what correct portion sizes are. I weigh every single thing I consume and have been doing so for 2+ years.
The only person who keeps calling your diet bad is you. I never called your diet bad- not once. My only problem with your diet is that 1200 calories is much too low. As another user pointed out, the amount of food you consume is very little and would not be satisfying for many people. Considering you only have 17 more pounds to lose, your deficit is much too large for the weight you have left to lose. Chances are you could eat 1500 calories and still lose weight.
You think I'm being rude- but I'm really just being blunt and upfront with you about your calorie intake.
1200 calories is not "much too low". I gave MFP my information and that's what it gave me... I didn't change it at all. You're right, I could probably lose weight at 1500... but 1200 does it faster. I lose about 1.5 lbs a week. You can't say it's much too low just based on the information you have. You have no idea how tall I am or what my weight is or what my activity level is.
Unless you are a doctor I don't think you can make claims that go against professional software. There's a lot of people on 1200.
1200 calories is in fact too low for you. Many people here will back me up on this.
A weight loss of 1.5 lbs a week is too aggressive for the weight you have to lose (17 lbs according to your profile). Many people will back me up on this, too.
MFP sets EVERY user here calorie goal at 1200- until YOU change it to fit YOUR needs. You act like MFP is a software that magically knows the calories and macros you need for your body- it isn't. You need to enter that yourself.
BTW, weight loss isn't a race. Fast weight loss isn't necessarily good. Slow & steady wins the race.
You two have derailed this thread enough. Also, you are not her physician, and not qualified to speak to her needs.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MarziPanda95 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »KisforKrista wrote: »Well as long as you are sure you are being accurate, although its going to be hard for people to help you if one day you need it because they wont be able to see that in your logging and will assume you don't know what you are consuming and eating more then you think you are.
My diary and logging are for me, I don't mind other people looking at them, but that's how recipes are logged. There's nothing I can do about that. I weigh every single thing I put in my mouth unless I just don't have access to a scale, I am EXTREMELY accurate. I don't really need help as far as what I eat, and if I decided that I needed help I would probably mention in my post that "servings" are either based off a recipe or something actually weighed exactly what the serving size says.
Sorry but 3 servings of 'sweet crepes with strawberry filling' has way more than 309 calories and 39 grams of carbs.
Same goes for meatloaf. 3 servings for 284 calories? I don't think so.
I'm sorry but did you read the rest of my comments? I guarantee all of that is completely accurate.
Do you mind sending the recipes for the crepes and meatloaf you made?
Sure:
Meatloaf: 6 servings (I ate 3)
208 grams ground beef
70 grams white onion
5 grams shredded carrot
46 gram egg (a medium sized egg)
40 grams bread crumbs (Great value whole wheat)
a little garlic, salt, and pepper (not enough to even show up on the scale)
Potatoes: 2 servings (I ate 1)
231 grams potatoes
23 grams butter (about 2 tbs)
1/3 cup 1% milk
plus a little salt and garlic for flavor
Crepes: 4 servings (I ate 3 because I burned one)
62 grams enriched wheat flour
49 gram egg (medium sized egg)
1/4 cup 1% milk
1/4 cup water
a tiny bit of salt
12 grams butter
3 grams raw sugar
Thanks for the recipes! The calorie counts are more believable after seeing the recipes. Each serving is obviously on the small side.
If you think those servings are small then you probably have a very skewed view of how much you should be eating. I can't see how anyone could eat more than 3 crepes with filling. The meatloaf was a total of 210 grams, and the potatoes were about 153 grams. Of course, I ate some other things for dessert... but I honestly wouldn't have eaten more than that even when I wasn't trying to lose weight.
Based on your diary, your diet is mainly comprised of carbs. You eat very little protein from what I can see. For example, crepes would never be satisfying or filling for me because they are made up of entirely carbs and little to no protein. You ate 3 breadsticks for dinner one night… I personally wouldn't call that a dinner. I like well-balanced meals with a similar ratio of carbs, protein, and fat.
I can make assumptions too.
I ate 3 breadsticks for dinner because I ate a really large snack and my parents surprised me by showing up at my apartment and taking me out to dinner. (and since that's a 2 hour drive for them and they just came to fix my car I couldn't really say "no") I still had 50 grams of protein that day and my daily goal is 60.
I have balanced days and weeks, not necessarily balanced meals because dinner is often the only meal I can eat at home.
Sure, I eat carbs because they're filling, but I also eat a lot of protein throughout most days.
You also have a much higher calorie goal than I do, my protein and carbs are just about on point for the amount of calories I actually consume.
I eat things I enjoy, I am healthy and consistently losing weight. I stay under my calorie goal. I meticulously weigh every single thing I eat.
Frankly, looking at your diary I feel I would be extremely bored with your diet.
The whole point of the original post is that she doesn't like having to worry about what she eats. Dieting is awful and boring, and while I love healthy food I want people to know that you don't have to have "forbidden foods" or be restrictive to lose weight and to be healthy.
I personally don't consider 50-60 grams of protein/day a lot of protein. You might- that's fine.
I eat the way I eat because I have medical conditions that require me to do so. I also eat the way I do because it makes me feel my best and keeps me out of the hospital.
No where have I said that there's anything wrong with incorporating foods you enjoy into your diet. I ALWAYS tell people to eat the foods they enjoy in moderation because eliminating foods leads to binges and yo-yo dieting.
60 grams is enough because my calorie goal is 1200. Your calorie goal appears to be 2000 so more protein is required. It's a ratio, there's NO way I could reach more than MAYBE 70 grams of protein and still stay under my calorie goal.
You're upset because I said your eating was boring, but you eat that way because you have to. So why are you condemning how I eat?
You might be surprised to learn that even though MFP does do macros by percentages, 50g of protein is the absolute minimum you should get no matter how many calories you eat. Even on a medically supervised VLCD, 50g is usually the minimum. Protein grams aren't as affected by how many calories you're allowed as you might think!
There seems to be a lot of arguing for no reason, here. She accepted that she was wrong about your meatloaf and crepes, there was no need to continue the argument by saying she has a skewed view on portion sizes. Truth is that she was right. Most average portions of those foods have a lot more calories than what you said. All she was saying was that you said it was x amount of servings but they were smaller servings than she anticipated.
ANYWAY. OP. Dieting doesn't have to be boring! You can still enjoy treats and fit them in your calories, and there are a lot of fun healthy low cal recipes out there on the internet
Isn't the whole reason many people are on MFP is because they don't know what correct portion sizes are? Also, yeah, maybe they're a little lower than a general serving... but when you're trying to lose weight you have to have smaller servings to enjoy some of those foods.
She did NOT except that she was wrong. And she's not right. She has continued to insist that my diet is bad. Yes, 50 grams is an absolute low, but just because I had 50 grams one day doesn't mean I only get that much every day. My goal is set at 60 grams because that is a reasonable amount, unless I eat nothing but eggs and meat there's really no way that I'm going to get much more than that while still staying under 1200 calories a day.
People are on MFP because they are looking to lose, gain, or maintain their weight by CICO.
I know what correct portion sizes are. I weigh every single thing I consume and have been doing so for 2+ years.
The only person who keeps calling your diet bad is you. I never called your diet bad- not once. My only problem with your diet is that 1200 calories is much too low. As another user pointed out, the amount of food you consume is very little and would not be satisfying for many people. Considering you only have 17 more pounds to lose, your deficit is much too large for the weight you have left to lose. Chances are you could eat 1500 calories and still lose weight.
You think I'm being rude- but I'm really just being blunt and upfront with you about your calorie intake.
1200 calories is not "much too low". I gave MFP my information and that's what it gave me... I didn't change it at all. You're right, I could probably lose weight at 1500... but 1200 does it faster. I lose about 1.5 lbs a week. You can't say it's much too low just based on the information you have. You have no idea how tall I am or what my weight is or what my activity level is.
Unless you are a doctor I don't think you can make claims that go against professional software. There's a lot of people on 1200.
1200 calories is in fact too low for you. Many people here will back me up on this.
A weight loss of 1.5 lbs a week is too aggressive for the weight you have to lose (17 lbs according to your profile). Many people will back me up on this, too.
MFP sets EVERY user here calorie goal at 1200- until YOU change it to fit YOUR needs. You act like MFP is a software that magically knows the calories and macros you need for your body- it isn't. You need to enter that yourself.
BTW, weight loss isn't a race. Fast weight loss isn't necessarily good. Slow & steady wins the race.
It's not "too aggressive". No matter how much weight you have to lose, from my research, as long as you're not consistently losing more than 2 lbs a week there's nothing wrong with it.
There is no time limit for how fast or slow you have to lose weight to be successful.
Research and people who have been successful here have determined otherwise I know you're young and think you have the answers to everything, but try listening to people who have been there and done that. You might actually learn something. -2 -
To keep on topic of the thread, I think one of the reasons why people consider calorie counting "dieting" is because we're using numbers to restrict our eating habits. I've read opinions that counting cals is a mild form of an eating disorder.
One of the concerns my husband has is whether or not this is sustainable. It's not that I deprive myself; I certainly do enjoy a little bit of cake once in a while. I keep the portions small, count it toward my calories for the day, and make sure I am steady the rest of the day. But his concern is after a point I should be able to "eyeball" food and know how much I need to eat. To him, watching me weigh my food and log every now is a pain in the *kitten* and will eventually make me frustrated.0 -
Nerdycurls wrote: »
1200 calories is not "much too low". I gave MFP my information and that's what it gave me... I didn't change it at all. You're right, I could probably lose weight at 1500... but 1200 does it faster. I lose about 1.5 lbs a week. You can't say it's much too low just based on the information you have. You have no idea how tall I am or what my weight is or what my activity level is.
Unless you are a doctor I don't think you can make claims that go against professional software. There's a lot of people on 1200.
Okay I am not going to judge you here on what MFP told you or what does work for you...but the thing that stood out to me the most was "1200 does it faster."
May I ask you and others who do this as well--- why oh why does it have to be faster?
There are people eating 900-1100 cals a day because they want to lose the weight faster. There are people who are eating 1200 cals a day and then are famished anyway or feel deprived, but that helps them lose the weight faster.
Listen, I've been fat, and I've been overweight nearly my whole life. I get it. I want to lose the weight NOW, but that just ain't gonna happen. With the way my body is losing weight due to my apple shape, my belly will be the LAST thing to go and ooooh does that grind my gears. I wish I could make it go away faster, but there's a reason I don't.
Research shows people who lose weight faster, versus making a lifestyle change (not saying you aren't, just hear me out) tend to be the ones to gain it all back plus some. Research also shows that slower, steady weight loss is sustainable to losing the weight and keeping it off permanently. In short, I guess I can't really understand why people want to lose weight faster.
Why does it have to be faster? Because as long as I'm doing it healthily I want to reach my goals as fast as I can. For the same reason people do a 4 year degree in 3 years. As long as I can do it without hurting myself why wouldn't I want to? Sure, I could lose .5 lbs a week and take 10 months to get to my goal. If I can healthily lose 1.5 lbs a week (which IS healthy for me because I am on the shorter side and once I reach my maintenance I probably won't need more than 2000ish) and do it in less than 4 months, why wouldn't I?0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MarziPanda95 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »KisforKrista wrote: »Well as long as you are sure you are being accurate, although its going to be hard for people to help you if one day you need it because they wont be able to see that in your logging and will assume you don't know what you are consuming and eating more then you think you are.
My diary and logging are for me, I don't mind other people looking at them, but that's how recipes are logged. There's nothing I can do about that. I weigh every single thing I put in my mouth unless I just don't have access to a scale, I am EXTREMELY accurate. I don't really need help as far as what I eat, and if I decided that I needed help I would probably mention in my post that "servings" are either based off a recipe or something actually weighed exactly what the serving size says.
Sorry but 3 servings of 'sweet crepes with strawberry filling' has way more than 309 calories and 39 grams of carbs.
Same goes for meatloaf. 3 servings for 284 calories? I don't think so.
I'm sorry but did you read the rest of my comments? I guarantee all of that is completely accurate.
Do you mind sending the recipes for the crepes and meatloaf you made?
Sure:
Meatloaf: 6 servings (I ate 3)
208 grams ground beef
70 grams white onion
5 grams shredded carrot
46 gram egg (a medium sized egg)
40 grams bread crumbs (Great value whole wheat)
a little garlic, salt, and pepper (not enough to even show up on the scale)
Potatoes: 2 servings (I ate 1)
231 grams potatoes
23 grams butter (about 2 tbs)
1/3 cup 1% milk
plus a little salt and garlic for flavor
Crepes: 4 servings (I ate 3 because I burned one)
62 grams enriched wheat flour
49 gram egg (medium sized egg)
1/4 cup 1% milk
1/4 cup water
a tiny bit of salt
12 grams butter
3 grams raw sugar
Thanks for the recipes! The calorie counts are more believable after seeing the recipes. Each serving is obviously on the small side.
If you think those servings are small then you probably have a very skewed view of how much you should be eating. I can't see how anyone could eat more than 3 crepes with filling. The meatloaf was a total of 210 grams, and the potatoes were about 153 grams. Of course, I ate some other things for dessert... but I honestly wouldn't have eaten more than that even when I wasn't trying to lose weight.
Based on your diary, your diet is mainly comprised of carbs. You eat very little protein from what I can see. For example, crepes would never be satisfying or filling for me because they are made up of entirely carbs and little to no protein. You ate 3 breadsticks for dinner one night… I personally wouldn't call that a dinner. I like well-balanced meals with a similar ratio of carbs, protein, and fat.
I can make assumptions too.
I ate 3 breadsticks for dinner because I ate a really large snack and my parents surprised me by showing up at my apartment and taking me out to dinner. (and since that's a 2 hour drive for them and they just came to fix my car I couldn't really say "no") I still had 50 grams of protein that day and my daily goal is 60.
I have balanced days and weeks, not necessarily balanced meals because dinner is often the only meal I can eat at home.
Sure, I eat carbs because they're filling, but I also eat a lot of protein throughout most days.
You also have a much higher calorie goal than I do, my protein and carbs are just about on point for the amount of calories I actually consume.
I eat things I enjoy, I am healthy and consistently losing weight. I stay under my calorie goal. I meticulously weigh every single thing I eat.
Frankly, looking at your diary I feel I would be extremely bored with your diet.
The whole point of the original post is that she doesn't like having to worry about what she eats. Dieting is awful and boring, and while I love healthy food I want people to know that you don't have to have "forbidden foods" or be restrictive to lose weight and to be healthy.
I personally don't consider 50-60 grams of protein/day a lot of protein. You might- that's fine.
I eat the way I eat because I have medical conditions that require me to do so. I also eat the way I do because it makes me feel my best and keeps me out of the hospital.
No where have I said that there's anything wrong with incorporating foods you enjoy into your diet. I ALWAYS tell people to eat the foods they enjoy in moderation because eliminating foods leads to binges and yo-yo dieting.
60 grams is enough because my calorie goal is 1200. Your calorie goal appears to be 2000 so more protein is required. It's a ratio, there's NO way I could reach more than MAYBE 70 grams of protein and still stay under my calorie goal.
You're upset because I said your eating was boring, but you eat that way because you have to. So why are you condemning how I eat?
You might be surprised to learn that even though MFP does do macros by percentages, 50g of protein is the absolute minimum you should get no matter how many calories you eat. Even on a medically supervised VLCD, 50g is usually the minimum. Protein grams aren't as affected by how many calories you're allowed as you might think!
There seems to be a lot of arguing for no reason, here. She accepted that she was wrong about your meatloaf and crepes, there was no need to continue the argument by saying she has a skewed view on portion sizes. Truth is that she was right. Most average portions of those foods have a lot more calories than what you said. All she was saying was that you said it was x amount of servings but they were smaller servings than she anticipated.
ANYWAY. OP. Dieting doesn't have to be boring! You can still enjoy treats and fit them in your calories, and there are a lot of fun healthy low cal recipes out there on the internet
Isn't the whole reason many people are on MFP is because they don't know what correct portion sizes are? Also, yeah, maybe they're a little lower than a general serving... but when you're trying to lose weight you have to have smaller servings to enjoy some of those foods.
She did NOT except that she was wrong. And she's not right. She has continued to insist that my diet is bad. Yes, 50 grams is an absolute low, but just because I had 50 grams one day doesn't mean I only get that much every day. My goal is set at 60 grams because that is a reasonable amount, unless I eat nothing but eggs and meat there's really no way that I'm going to get much more than that while still staying under 1200 calories a day.
People are on MFP because they are looking to lose, gain, or maintain their weight by CICO.
I know what correct portion sizes are. I weigh every single thing I consume and have been doing so for 2+ years.
The only person who keeps calling your diet bad is you. I never called your diet bad- not once. My only problem with your diet is that 1200 calories is much too low. As another user pointed out, the amount of food you consume is very little and would not be satisfying for many people. Considering you only have 17 more pounds to lose, your deficit is much too large for the weight you have left to lose. Chances are you could eat 1500 calories and still lose weight.
You think I'm being rude- but I'm really just being blunt and upfront with you about your calorie intake.
1200 calories is not "much too low". I gave MFP my information and that's what it gave me... I didn't change it at all. You're right, I could probably lose weight at 1500... but 1200 does it faster. I lose about 1.5 lbs a week. You can't say it's much too low just based on the information you have. You have no idea how tall I am or what my weight is or what my activity level is.
Unless you are a doctor I don't think you can make claims that go against professional software. There's a lot of people on 1200.
1200 calories is in fact too low for you. Many people here will back me up on this.
A weight loss of 1.5 lbs a week is too aggressive for the weight you have to lose (17 lbs according to your profile). Many people will back me up on this, too.
MFP sets EVERY user here calorie goal at 1200- until YOU change it to fit YOUR needs. You act like MFP is a software that magically knows the calories and macros you need for your body- it isn't. You need to enter that yourself.
BTW, weight loss isn't a race. Fast weight loss isn't necessarily good. Slow & steady wins the race.
You two have derailed this thread enough. Also, you are not her physician, and not qualified to speak to her needs.
/thread
I don't need to be her physician to say that with 17 pounds to lose, she is eating too few calories and her goal to lose 1.5 pounds a week is unrealistic.
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Today I had homemade crepes and strawberry filling (strawberries and sugar warmed up and mashed) for brunch, meatloaf, mashed potatoes, and cherries for dinner, and a piece of dark chocolate for dessert. I'm very full and satisfied and it was all delicious!
And I'm still under 1000 calories.
It's about portion control, not dieting. Don't worry about avoiding foods because they're "bad for you." Sure, some things don't lead to a healthy lifestyle, but having sugary or fatty foods in moderate amounts isn't going to kill you.
We're all going to die someday, so don't make yourself miserable. But, at the same time, I'm so much happier when I'm healthy.
Eating well is hard, being overweight is hard... chose your hard.
I don't want to derail this thread, but you're eating more than 1000 calories a day, right?
I like what you're saying and I agree with that one exception.
I was going to ask the same question...0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MarziPanda95 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »KisforKrista wrote: »Well as long as you are sure you are being accurate, although its going to be hard for people to help you if one day you need it because they wont be able to see that in your logging and will assume you don't know what you are consuming and eating more then you think you are.
My diary and logging are for me, I don't mind other people looking at them, but that's how recipes are logged. There's nothing I can do about that. I weigh every single thing I put in my mouth unless I just don't have access to a scale, I am EXTREMELY accurate. I don't really need help as far as what I eat, and if I decided that I needed help I would probably mention in my post that "servings" are either based off a recipe or something actually weighed exactly what the serving size says.
Sorry but 3 servings of 'sweet crepes with strawberry filling' has way more than 309 calories and 39 grams of carbs.
Same goes for meatloaf. 3 servings for 284 calories? I don't think so.
I'm sorry but did you read the rest of my comments? I guarantee all of that is completely accurate.
Do you mind sending the recipes for the crepes and meatloaf you made?
Sure:
Meatloaf: 6 servings (I ate 3)
208 grams ground beef
70 grams white onion
5 grams shredded carrot
46 gram egg (a medium sized egg)
40 grams bread crumbs (Great value whole wheat)
a little garlic, salt, and pepper (not enough to even show up on the scale)
Potatoes: 2 servings (I ate 1)
231 grams potatoes
23 grams butter (about 2 tbs)
1/3 cup 1% milk
plus a little salt and garlic for flavor
Crepes: 4 servings (I ate 3 because I burned one)
62 grams enriched wheat flour
49 gram egg (medium sized egg)
1/4 cup 1% milk
1/4 cup water
a tiny bit of salt
12 grams butter
3 grams raw sugar
Thanks for the recipes! The calorie counts are more believable after seeing the recipes. Each serving is obviously on the small side.
If you think those servings are small then you probably have a very skewed view of how much you should be eating. I can't see how anyone could eat more than 3 crepes with filling. The meatloaf was a total of 210 grams, and the potatoes were about 153 grams. Of course, I ate some other things for dessert... but I honestly wouldn't have eaten more than that even when I wasn't trying to lose weight.
Based on your diary, your diet is mainly comprised of carbs. You eat very little protein from what I can see. For example, crepes would never be satisfying or filling for me because they are made up of entirely carbs and little to no protein. You ate 3 breadsticks for dinner one night… I personally wouldn't call that a dinner. I like well-balanced meals with a similar ratio of carbs, protein, and fat.
I can make assumptions too.
I ate 3 breadsticks for dinner because I ate a really large snack and my parents surprised me by showing up at my apartment and taking me out to dinner. (and since that's a 2 hour drive for them and they just came to fix my car I couldn't really say "no") I still had 50 grams of protein that day and my daily goal is 60.
I have balanced days and weeks, not necessarily balanced meals because dinner is often the only meal I can eat at home.
Sure, I eat carbs because they're filling, but I also eat a lot of protein throughout most days.
You also have a much higher calorie goal than I do, my protein and carbs are just about on point for the amount of calories I actually consume.
I eat things I enjoy, I am healthy and consistently losing weight. I stay under my calorie goal. I meticulously weigh every single thing I eat.
Frankly, looking at your diary I feel I would be extremely bored with your diet.
The whole point of the original post is that she doesn't like having to worry about what she eats. Dieting is awful and boring, and while I love healthy food I want people to know that you don't have to have "forbidden foods" or be restrictive to lose weight and to be healthy.
I personally don't consider 50-60 grams of protein/day a lot of protein. You might- that's fine.
I eat the way I eat because I have medical conditions that require me to do so. I also eat the way I do because it makes me feel my best and keeps me out of the hospital.
No where have I said that there's anything wrong with incorporating foods you enjoy into your diet. I ALWAYS tell people to eat the foods they enjoy in moderation because eliminating foods leads to binges and yo-yo dieting.
60 grams is enough because my calorie goal is 1200. Your calorie goal appears to be 2000 so more protein is required. It's a ratio, there's NO way I could reach more than MAYBE 70 grams of protein and still stay under my calorie goal.
You're upset because I said your eating was boring, but you eat that way because you have to. So why are you condemning how I eat?
You might be surprised to learn that even though MFP does do macros by percentages, 50g of protein is the absolute minimum you should get no matter how many calories you eat. Even on a medically supervised VLCD, 50g is usually the minimum. Protein grams aren't as affected by how many calories you're allowed as you might think!
There seems to be a lot of arguing for no reason, here. She accepted that she was wrong about your meatloaf and crepes, there was no need to continue the argument by saying she has a skewed view on portion sizes. Truth is that she was right. Most average portions of those foods have a lot more calories than what you said. All she was saying was that you said it was x amount of servings but they were smaller servings than she anticipated.
ANYWAY. OP. Dieting doesn't have to be boring! You can still enjoy treats and fit them in your calories, and there are a lot of fun healthy low cal recipes out there on the internet
Isn't the whole reason many people are on MFP is because they don't know what correct portion sizes are? Also, yeah, maybe they're a little lower than a general serving... but when you're trying to lose weight you have to have smaller servings to enjoy some of those foods.
She did NOT except that she was wrong. And she's not right. She has continued to insist that my diet is bad. Yes, 50 grams is an absolute low, but just because I had 50 grams one day doesn't mean I only get that much every day. My goal is set at 60 grams because that is a reasonable amount, unless I eat nothing but eggs and meat there's really no way that I'm going to get much more than that while still staying under 1200 calories a day.
People are on MFP because they are looking to lose, gain, or maintain their weight by CICO.
I know what correct portion sizes are. I weigh every single thing I consume and have been doing so for 2+ years.
The only person who keeps calling your diet bad is you. I never called your diet bad- not once. My only problem with your diet is that 1200 calories is much too low. As another user pointed out, the amount of food you consume is very little and would not be satisfying for many people. Considering you only have 17 more pounds to lose, your deficit is much too large for the weight you have left to lose. Chances are you could eat 1500 calories and still lose weight.
You think I'm being rude- but I'm really just being blunt and upfront with you about your calorie intake.
1200 calories is not "much too low". I gave MFP my information and that's what it gave me... I didn't change it at all. You're right, I could probably lose weight at 1500... but 1200 does it faster. I lose about 1.5 lbs a week. You can't say it's much too low just based on the information you have. You have no idea how tall I am or what my weight is or what my activity level is.
Unless you are a doctor I don't think you can make claims that go against professional software. There's a lot of people on 1200.
1200 calories is in fact too low for you. Many people here will back me up on this.
A weight loss of 1.5 lbs a week is too aggressive for the weight you have to lose (17 lbs according to your profile). Many people will back me up on this, too.
MFP sets EVERY user here calorie goal at 1200- until YOU change it to fit YOUR needs. You act like MFP is a software that magically knows the calories and macros you need for your body- it isn't. You need to enter that yourself.
BTW, weight loss isn't a race. Fast weight loss isn't necessarily good. Slow & steady wins the race.
It's not "too aggressive". No matter how much weight you have to lose, from my research, as long as you're not consistently losing more than 2 lbs a week there's nothing wrong with it.
There is no time limit for how fast or slow you have to lose weight to be successful.
Research and people who have been successful here have determined otherwise I know you're young and think you have the answers to everything, but try listening to people who have been there and done that. You might actually learn something.
Sweetie, you don't have your profile public so I don't know how old you are, but from your picture you can't be that much older than me. I've talked to MANY people on here who have confirmed that I am doing what I need to. What I'm doing is working for me. I feel really good, I'm always as full as I need to be, I'm getting the results I'm looking for. It's my body, not yours.0 -
Today I had homemade crepes and strawberry filling (strawberries and sugar warmed up and mashed) for brunch, meatloaf, mashed potatoes, and cherries for dinner, and a piece of dark chocolate for dessert. I'm very full and satisfied and it was all delicious!
And I'm still under 1000 calories.
It's about portion control, not dieting. Don't worry about avoiding foods because they're "bad for you." Sure, some things don't lead to a healthy lifestyle, but having sugary or fatty foods in moderate amounts isn't going to kill you.
We're all going to die someday, so don't make yourself miserable. But, at the same time, I'm so much happier when I'm healthy.
Eating well is hard, being overweight is hard... chose your hard.
I don't want to derail this thread, but you're eating more than 1000 calories a day, right?
I like what you're saying and I agree with that one exception.
I was going to ask the same question...
I already addressed this quite a while ago.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »MarziPanda95 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »KisforKrista wrote: »Well as long as you are sure you are being accurate, although its going to be hard for people to help you if one day you need it because they wont be able to see that in your logging and will assume you don't know what you are consuming and eating more then you think you are.
My diary and logging are for me, I don't mind other people looking at them, but that's how recipes are logged. There's nothing I can do about that. I weigh every single thing I put in my mouth unless I just don't have access to a scale, I am EXTREMELY accurate. I don't really need help as far as what I eat, and if I decided that I needed help I would probably mention in my post that "servings" are either based off a recipe or something actually weighed exactly what the serving size says.
Sorry but 3 servings of 'sweet crepes with strawberry filling' has way more than 309 calories and 39 grams of carbs.
Same goes for meatloaf. 3 servings for 284 calories? I don't think so.
I'm sorry but did you read the rest of my comments? I guarantee all of that is completely accurate.
Do you mind sending the recipes for the crepes and meatloaf you made?
Sure:
Meatloaf: 6 servings (I ate 3)
208 grams ground beef
70 grams white onion
5 grams shredded carrot
46 gram egg (a medium sized egg)
40 grams bread crumbs (Great value whole wheat)
a little garlic, salt, and pepper (not enough to even show up on the scale)
Potatoes: 2 servings (I ate 1)
231 grams potatoes
23 grams butter (about 2 tbs)
1/3 cup 1% milk
plus a little salt and garlic for flavor
Crepes: 4 servings (I ate 3 because I burned one)
62 grams enriched wheat flour
49 gram egg (medium sized egg)
1/4 cup 1% milk
1/4 cup water
a tiny bit of salt
12 grams butter
3 grams raw sugar
Thanks for the recipes! The calorie counts are more believable after seeing the recipes. Each serving is obviously on the small side.
If you think those servings are small then you probably have a very skewed view of how much you should be eating. I can't see how anyone could eat more than 3 crepes with filling. The meatloaf was a total of 210 grams, and the potatoes were about 153 grams. Of course, I ate some other things for dessert... but I honestly wouldn't have eaten more than that even when I wasn't trying to lose weight.
Based on your diary, your diet is mainly comprised of carbs. You eat very little protein from what I can see. For example, crepes would never be satisfying or filling for me because they are made up of entirely carbs and little to no protein. You ate 3 breadsticks for dinner one night… I personally wouldn't call that a dinner. I like well-balanced meals with a similar ratio of carbs, protein, and fat.
I can make assumptions too.
I ate 3 breadsticks for dinner because I ate a really large snack and my parents surprised me by showing up at my apartment and taking me out to dinner. (and since that's a 2 hour drive for them and they just came to fix my car I couldn't really say "no") I still had 50 grams of protein that day and my daily goal is 60.
I have balanced days and weeks, not necessarily balanced meals because dinner is often the only meal I can eat at home.
Sure, I eat carbs because they're filling, but I also eat a lot of protein throughout most days.
You also have a much higher calorie goal than I do, my protein and carbs are just about on point for the amount of calories I actually consume.
I eat things I enjoy, I am healthy and consistently losing weight. I stay under my calorie goal. I meticulously weigh every single thing I eat.
Frankly, looking at your diary I feel I would be extremely bored with your diet.
The whole point of the original post is that she doesn't like having to worry about what she eats. Dieting is awful and boring, and while I love healthy food I want people to know that you don't have to have "forbidden foods" or be restrictive to lose weight and to be healthy.
I personally don't consider 50-60 grams of protein/day a lot of protein. You might- that's fine.
I eat the way I eat because I have medical conditions that require me to do so. I also eat the way I do because it makes me feel my best and keeps me out of the hospital.
No where have I said that there's anything wrong with incorporating foods you enjoy into your diet. I ALWAYS tell people to eat the foods they enjoy in moderation because eliminating foods leads to binges and yo-yo dieting.
60 grams is enough because my calorie goal is 1200. Your calorie goal appears to be 2000 so more protein is required. It's a ratio, there's NO way I could reach more than MAYBE 70 grams of protein and still stay under my calorie goal.
You're upset because I said your eating was boring, but you eat that way because you have to. So why are you condemning how I eat?
You might be surprised to learn that even though MFP does do macros by percentages, 50g of protein is the absolute minimum you should get no matter how many calories you eat. Even on a medically supervised VLCD, 50g is usually the minimum. Protein grams aren't as affected by how many calories you're allowed as you might think!
There seems to be a lot of arguing for no reason, here. She accepted that she was wrong about your meatloaf and crepes, there was no need to continue the argument by saying she has a skewed view on portion sizes. Truth is that she was right. Most average portions of those foods have a lot more calories than what you said. All she was saying was that you said it was x amount of servings but they were smaller servings than she anticipated.
ANYWAY. OP. Dieting doesn't have to be boring! You can still enjoy treats and fit them in your calories, and there are a lot of fun healthy low cal recipes out there on the internet
Isn't the whole reason many people are on MFP is because they don't know what correct portion sizes are? Also, yeah, maybe they're a little lower than a general serving... but when you're trying to lose weight you have to have smaller servings to enjoy some of those foods.
She did NOT except that she was wrong. And she's not right. She has continued to insist that my diet is bad. Yes, 50 grams is an absolute low, but just because I had 50 grams one day doesn't mean I only get that much every day. My goal is set at 60 grams because that is a reasonable amount, unless I eat nothing but eggs and meat there's really no way that I'm going to get much more than that while still staying under 1200 calories a day.
People are on MFP because they are looking to lose, gain, or maintain their weight by CICO.
I know what correct portion sizes are. I weigh every single thing I consume and have been doing so for 2+ years.
The only person who keeps calling your diet bad is you. I never called your diet bad- not once. My only problem with your diet is that 1200 calories is much too low. As another user pointed out, the amount of food you consume is very little and would not be satisfying for many people. Considering you only have 17 more pounds to lose, your deficit is much too large for the weight you have left to lose. Chances are you could eat 1500 calories and still lose weight.
You think I'm being rude- but I'm really just being blunt and upfront with you about your calorie intake.
1200 calories is not "much too low". I gave MFP my information and that's what it gave me... I didn't change it at all. You're right, I could probably lose weight at 1500... but 1200 does it faster. I lose about 1.5 lbs a week. You can't say it's much too low just based on the information you have. You have no idea how tall I am or what my weight is or what my activity level is.
Unless you are a doctor I don't think you can make claims that go against professional software. There's a lot of people on 1200.
1200 calories is in fact too low for you. Many people here will back me up on this.
A weight loss of 1.5 lbs a week is too aggressive for the weight you have to lose (17 lbs according to your profile). Many people will back me up on this, too.
MFP sets EVERY user here calorie goal at 1200- until YOU change it to fit YOUR needs. You act like MFP is a software that magically knows the calories and macros you need for your body- it isn't. You need to enter that yourself.
BTW, weight loss isn't a race. Fast weight loss isn't necessarily good. Slow & steady wins the race.
It's not "too aggressive". No matter how much weight you have to lose, from my research, as long as you're not consistently losing more than 2 lbs a week there's nothing wrong with it.
There is no time limit for how fast or slow you have to lose weight to be successful.
Research and people who have been successful here have determined otherwise I know you're young and think you have the answers to everything, but try listening to people who have been there and done that. You might actually learn something.
Sweetie, you don't have your profile public so I don't know how old you are, but from your picture you can't be that much older than me. I've talked to MANY people on here who have confirmed that I am doing what I need to. What I'm doing is working for me. I feel really good, I'm always as full as I need to be, I'm getting the results I'm looking for. It's my body, not yours.
Frankly, I don't care how many people you've talked to who have confirmed eating 1200 calories is safe for you. Obviously those people have no clue what they are talking about and are NOT the people you want to get nutrition advice from. Talk to people who have been successful with weight loss and have kept the weight off, all by eating WAY more than 1200 calories.
Don't be disappointed when you gain all of the weight back plus some due to your desire to lose the weight as fast as possible.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »KisforKrista wrote: »Well as long as you are sure you are being accurate, although its going to be hard for people to help you if one day you need it because they wont be able to see that in your logging and will assume you don't know what you are consuming and eating more then you think you are.
My diary and logging are for me, I don't mind other people looking at them, but that's how recipes are logged. There's nothing I can do about that. I weigh every single thing I put in my mouth unless I just don't have access to a scale, I am EXTREMELY accurate. I don't really need help as far as what I eat, and if I decided that I needed help I would probably mention in my post that "servings" are either based off a recipe or something actually weighed exactly what the serving size says.
Sorry but 3 servings of 'sweet crepes with strawberry filling' has way more than 309 calories and 39 grams of carbs.
Same goes for meatloaf. 3 servings for 284 calories? I don't think so.
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BrianaDuBois wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »KisforKrista wrote: »Well as long as you are sure you are being accurate, although its going to be hard for people to help you if one day you need it because they wont be able to see that in your logging and will assume you don't know what you are consuming and eating more then you think you are.
My diary and logging are for me, I don't mind other people looking at them, but that's how recipes are logged. There's nothing I can do about that. I weigh every single thing I put in my mouth unless I just don't have access to a scale, I am EXTREMELY accurate. I don't really need help as far as what I eat, and if I decided that I needed help I would probably mention in my post that "servings" are either based off a recipe or something actually weighed exactly what the serving size says.
Sorry but 3 servings of 'sweet crepes with strawberry filling' has way more than 309 calories and 39 grams of carbs.
Same goes for meatloaf. 3 servings for 284 calories? I don't think so.
I'm sorry but did you read the rest of my comments? I guarantee all of that is completely accurate.
Do you mind sending the recipes for the crepes and meatloaf you made?
I'm going to second this. Those crepes sound so good. I would love to make them!
Also @kateyb94 , my logging looks the way I'm sure yours looks as well. My lunch might say "chicken parm - 1 serving", but in reality, I know each "serving" was 3 oz of chicken, 2 Tbsp marinara sauce and 1 oz cheese.
I understand what you are explaining, but would like to point out that it is not a good way to enter food into the MFP data base, because many of us use it and especially newcomers rely heavily on it. They have no idea that your " serving " is actually three servings of 3 oz each. It really messes things up.
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Chile I.fell off the wagon! I really know what you mean! I just sick of dieting at times. Just being honest0
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